Thread 719151615

More competitive StarCraft: Brood War coming your way.
The final group (Group F) of the round of 24 of Afreeca Starleague Season 20 starts NOW:
hero (Z)
RoyaL (T)
BarrackS (T)
BTS (Z)

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Liquipedia page:
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ASL/20

Fucking love ZvT, it's probably my favourite matchup in the entire game.

Poor BTS
I think Hero and Barracks will get through, but Royal is strong enough to knock either of them out on a good day.

The Terrannies will be eliminated, God willing.

>>719151687
Royal's success is very dependent on how well his prepared builds pan out. I feel like he's a bit like Mini at times: strategic mastermind, but also does dumb shit when things don't go precisely according to plan.

But agreed on Hero, he's very consistent in making it to the to16.

>>719151687
I'd put Royal over Barracks any day. He's an ASL champion, even though Barracks has improved since then.

God Damn! Would you look at that, another group that's going to get 2-0'd by a Zerg

Terranbros!

>>719151647
You ultralisk maniac!

T and Z are pretty even. Golden age Flash would be more than a match for Soulkey.
It's Protoss that's awfully weak at this point.

I wish they'd stop with red vs blue team colors

aaaaaaaaaaaand it's over

>>719151615 (OP)
I never actively care for this events but watch them every time I see someone on /v/ giving the shoutout, thanks mate.

Oh nononono

what the fuck happened
I left for 30 seconds to get some water after BTS lost 3 drones, then suddenly blue zerglings killing red drones

have the players declined so much that they cant even moving shot with mutas anymore

Holy fuck lmao
Zerg often gets described as a knife fight in a phonebooth, but that match embodied it like no other

I accidentally alt-tabbed and posted in a C&C thread lmao:
>>719152981

Everything has to be right
>The time of day
>Temperature
>The mental state of the player
>The humidity of the room
>The alignment of planets
Only then you can do a proper ZvZ

>>719153015
>chainsaw fight in a phone booth

love zvz

We all love Barracks here.

>>719153221
Accidental mine drags are so funny

HE JUST FORGETS TO BUILD BARRACKS

>i repair bunker LOL
>i repair tank LOL
>no i repair tank LOL

May Terrannies perish.

What a shitshow

A good short entertaining TVT? I can't believe it's possible!

>>719153825
>organisers' face when the TvT finishes in 1/10th the time they expected
8 minute ad breaks incoming

I must say, TvT has been faster in recent years. They seem to attack more often rather than just play the long game and divide up the map.

>>719154039
The terrans playing long games have all been hit with the exploding wrist syndrome.

>>719154039
The Korean mindset is if you're the superior player harass and attack until the weak player messes up and you win. 2-base Artosis was surprised by this for some reason

>>719154108
More like, if YOU don't harass them they have a ton of free APM available to harass you instead.

>>719154108
yes if you're much better than your opponent you can build your gateways in his base in plain view and outmicro to win
that doesn't apply to matches between ASL players

>>719154108
But even a few years ago you had most TvTs go the distance. Like the infamous regret/denzie cast. Then most TVTs seemed to just immediately degenerate into a split map situation with minimal attempts for an early shutdown. Now you often see games with heavy dropship use or 2base aggression.

>>719154307
>that doesn't apply to matches between ASL players
lol. lmao.
We just saw what happened even in TVT

>>719154350
that's just a normal rush, terran players would sometimes try to rush against flash and it's not because they thought he was a low skill noob

>>719154447
Heh

lmao

Terrankeks?

LINE EM UP

TOTAL SCB DEATH
WTF BTS FIRST OUT

MMMMMMMMMMMMM SCBS NOM NOM

KEK

the greatest lurker burrow

>be terranny
>have maphack
>go blind valkyries
>it was actually a lurker rush

Can't make this up.

I fucking hate zerg
but BTS deserved this

Going blind Valks with your life on the line is a decision.

>got vulture
>got scanner
>don't scout
Hmmmm very intelligent

nerf the bug race

I need a smug pepe edit in which pepe is replaced by a lurker

>>719154517
I remember this.
Getting 4-pooled is the funniest shit.

Weird feeling, knowing that BTS got out first.

This game could go either way.

oh no no no what is this shit now

raxbros, how we feeling?

D I S H O N E S TY
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>one guy cheeses
>everyone else decides fuck it, I'll cheese too
It always ends up like this.

lol, Royal is getting zergling swarmed once he fails his marine rush

it's over

what the fuck is hero doing
he could have killed the bunker

>>719155301
Or not, since Hero responded to this totally wrong.

marine rush was fine, if he didn't lift his fucking barracks

>>719155373
everyone's in shock after BTS advanced

OWARI DA

This is one of the worst games of Starcraft I've ever watched.

TOTAL TERRAN DEATH

>missed most of korea time
>again
Fuck bros
Any good games today or is it just more shitshows like this ASL has been so far?

>I'll throw the game
>no, I'll throw it harder
>no me

I love dumb scrappy games like this one.

Bunker rush into 1/1/1?

>>719155487
The games today have not been good.

LMAO 2PORT

>>719155487
we had some extremely high quality shitshow kino today

>>719155508
not surprised, a lot of the people who made it into ASL are just not top tier nor entertaining
This has been a real shit year for brood war, especially with Soulkey sucking all soul out of the game

>>719155534
but maybe I check the spaghetti games if they're interesting?

>>719155535
wtf

How did Royal even win an ASL?

>>719155490
kek

>artosis leaves korea after trying to qualify 500 times
>finally leaves because of his wife
>ASL quality drops to the point he might actually be able to qualify

maek science vessel

This game is supremely dumb.

What the fuck is this game

>>719155802
Whatever works!

People were saying Royal can beat Soulkey...

>>719155721
>Shartosis
Lacks killer instinct

What the fuck is a minimap?

>>719155887
I always have trouble distinguishing Royal and Rush, they're both practically the same caliber of B tier Terran. They even fought each other over winning an ASL.

wtf the fuck

better keep that vessel alive

>this game
Best match of the season so far, my dudes.
This is PEAK retardation, I love it.

Is this the starcraft equivalent of two drunk hobos fighting in an alleyway?

>royal going to lose because he's shit
>hero going to lose because he forgot how to make an expansion
>game of retards

>>719156048
Yeah.

FROM HERO
TO ZERO

Holy fucking shit Royal beat Hero!!!!

Hero threw this so hard. Just go hive, get defiler and plague his ass.

well done harry

what makes this even better is that royal looks like a huge asshole

That fucking game

Even this washed up barracks is going to rip this useless royal a new asshole

That was a fucking fever dream lmao

hero had it but when his mutas were strong he decided to right click the starport for 3 minutes and didnt kill it. hitting the one turret guarding the mineral line and then the scvs was gg.

TVT

>>719156238
I think Royal is favored.

>>719156371
proxy rax rush leading into lategame cattlebruisers
calling it now

>>719156473
dont look at the stats, look at the last game

>aww shit, i missed korea time
>tvtvt

oh thank god i missed it

>>719156629
I didn't look at the stats. That's just my vibes from watching all their games.

>>719156651
>Missed all the kino

>>719156302
That OR JUST RUSH DEFILER.
Terran was stuck on one-base and got ZERO counters to defiler's plague. Plague his whole army. Dark swarm also makes tanks USELESS.
Zerg players, man. Savior figured this out like decades ago and Zerg players just ignores it. Defilers are insanely strong

>>719156651
oh, i forgot bts is a zerg

>>719156689
i'll watch it later anyway but tvt i always skip unless something fun happens

>>719156651
If nothing else you gotta watch the retard convention match that just ended

Another TVT. We are suffering

>>719156651
>>719156851
first game was pretty kino too

We don't like yer kind around here!

>>719157087
Heh, you tell 'em Marl!

>barracks forgetting vulture speed
>neither player getting weapons

Royal is probably gonna win this one, he took a base with a 3rd gas faster and I also think he took out more tanks in the exchanges so far.

>get wraiths on tanks
>let them shoot 4 different ones, and none on the 1 hp tank

Barracks really isn't ahead, the tank count difference is starting to get enormous. It's all-in on these wraiths I guess.

>>719156302
Classic Zerg moment lmao. Hero had like a golden window but decided to cosplay as a campaign AI. Mutas just doing donuts around the starport instead of deleting it and moving on. One turret. ONE. He could’ve dismantled the eco and floated to hive tech uncontested. Sometimes I swear these guys forget they can just win.

love tvt

>up on bases
>up on supply
>3k/2k in bank
Can barracks even find a way to throw this?

armored division (airlanding) in your base

im in ur base killing ur d00ds

>>719157665
never underestimate /ourterran/, remember he almost threw against mini with a perfectly planned and executed plan.

oh no my imissed it NONONO

It's over. Barracks got this.

Barracks just looked like a much better player. Although considering the previous game, maybe royal was having an off day.

And that's 2-0 for barracks-royal

I dont think anyone except for bts is proud of any game they played. jesus what a bunch of noobs

>dood TVT is soooo hard
>doomdrop enemy base and destroy half of it

>>719157879
the trick is not getting doom dropped first

what's the difference in economy that terran can do so well for so long on one base?

>>719158106
Vulture Goliath stronk

Super fun night.

>>719158201
It really was, genuinely. Some of the funniest and shittiest matches were fought tonight, worth the watch.

i literally missed everything fml

Thoughts?

>>719158302
Soulkey wins ASL again. There's what, only 2-3 players that could realistically beat him? Unless everyone has genius strats for the new maps.

>>719158374
>only 2-3 players that could realistically beat him
1. No Terrans currently active is good enough to beat him.
2. Of Protoss, only Best and Snow came close (they went 4-3 against him last season).
3. Soulkey's biggest obstacle is ZvZ; it still remains his lowest winrate. What he did last season was VERY telling; he used his champion's swapping privileges to reduce the possibility of ZvZ in his top 8. Even he knows that's his Archilles' Heel.

>>719158302
>S for Sulky
Soulkey
>A-tier players, bo4 potential
Best
Snow
Sharp
Rush
Light
Queen
Soma
>B-tier, strong players that will probably be used as fodder in death groups
Barracks
Larva
Effort
>C-tier, they're ded as soon as they face someone competent
Speed
Jaedong
BTS
>Mini tier, will either die like a noob or sweep the entire tournament
Mini

>>719158674
I don't think I've ever seen Effort get too emotional.

>>719158302
my bet is on soulkey building hydras and winning
and also a few defilers because every map must cater to zergs with free gas and impassable chokes on 3rds