Thread 719154165

Games you respect more than you like/enjoy

>>719154165 (OP)
BG3 is a trailblazer for LGBT, woke and feminism in video games. Mad respect, so brave and powerful.

Absolutely no one thinks your tencent gift is worth it. There is a whole site with resources dedicated to shitting on you schizos and paid shills spamming /v/ over it

>>719154165 (OP)
BG3 is literally the opposite of this; it's the type of game you enjoy far more than you respect.
A lot of retro classics would fall under the "respect more than enjoy" category for their technical contributions etc. to the medium

>>719154165 (OP)
>>719154546
Exactly 10 minutes apart yet again.
Get some help bro, you're getting mad at threads you made yourself.

>>719154609
>Exactly 10 minutes apart yet again.
chinese cant measure jack shit.

>>719154165 (OP)
Who the fuck would respect this piece of shit game that shits on the lore of the realm it's set in?
>tfw fucking orcs and demons in Waterdeep
It's bullshit, I tell you what. Robillard would never stand for that shit in his city.

>>719154165 (OP)
This but unironically. I respect just how much time and effort they put into it, but don't like the boring story or woke shit or repetitive gameplay

>>719154609
>claim it's exactly 10 minutes
>is not exactly 10 minutes
What did he mean by this

Reminder Hiro took literal millions for a game that tanked a franchise on gaming platforms. So much that their publisher pulled out, and the cucked Belgian dev is still sucking CCP dick to save face over. Knowing they can never touch the D&D IP again.

Meanwhile the alleged western dev that did not cuck to the CCP despite "failing" gets to both finish their game and has extended content.

Belt&Road belgicucks, Turkltards, and other BRICs Belt&Roadcucks can never claim this.
This post will now be mass reported by seething turtdies. Screencap this.

I was just making a thread about games that you recognize as great games that for whatever reason you don't feel the spark for. I wasn't expecting this to turn into a complete schizo dumpster fire thread about BG3 specifically this quickly.

>>719155357
The bg3 schizo will latch onto every thread mentioning it even in passing. He is fully mindbroken.

>>719155357
It's almost like people don't respect your opinion or taste.

>>719154889
Your seethe over China was annoying at first, but now it's kinda adorable.

>>719154165 (OP)
Baldur's Gate 3 was a 10/10 for me, i respect and enjoy it completely. GOATed game.

As for games that i respect but dont enjoy playing check out pic related.

>>719155498
wtf are you talking about?

>>719154165 (OP)
>respecting a sodomite simulator

>>719155357
Anon, the schizo makes these threads himself and then does his thing within 3 replies.
He literally makes the majority of these threads and then gets mad that there's so many threads.

>>719156252
But I made the thread. It's a genuine thread. And not meant to be about BG3 in particular. It was just the game that triggered the idea to make the thread.

>>719156349
What do you respect about it? And why don't you enjoy it?
I do neither btw.

>>719156349
I dislike how "not having DLC or predatory monetary practices" is something worthy of respect in 2025. It should be given.

Especially when BG3 has so much to disrespect it about.

>>719157029
The vision. It's clearly a game made with care and no compromise. I respect how loose the mechanics are and how they allow the players to mess up. I respect the general amount of trust the game clearly has that you can figure the game out. I respect the attention to detail. I respect the complexity, which admittedly a lot of it is borrowed from the DnD engine's inherent complexity, but I respect they didn't dumb it down the way a game this big would feel compelled to. I respect the amount of freedom the game gives you to actually roleplay instead of just playing a role they set out for you. It's not that these things aren't done by anyone else, but it's rare to have all these qualities in a game that looks and runs this good. As someone who absolutely loves New Vegas, I am surprised at myself that I don't love this game, and as to why that is, I don't quite know why, I just don't feel it. I can see the game's qualities and that objectively I should really like it, but I always just tune out after a while and stop feeling the desire to play it.

I have a very similar relationship with the LOTR movies. I respect them and I can see how I should theoretically love them, but for whatever reason I just don't really care for them.

>>719157272
That's not why I respect and appreciate it. You are projecting.

>>719155580
It's running on 5e so, by definition, it can never be a "10/10. More like 9/10 if you like it so much.

>>719157714
>I respect how...
>I respect the...
>I respect they...
Reads like that "I'm sorry I'm white, I'm sorry I'm male" chant. Can you write another version where you make a list of the things you disrespect it for?

>>719157884
Brother, you asked me what I respect about the game and I listed a bunch of things I respect it for. Do you want me to get a thesaurus to replace the word respect in every other sentence so I don't trigger you online induced schizophrenia? wtf is wrong with you people? Why even ask a question if you're not even honestly interested in the answer?

>>719158083
Yeah, I'd just like to hear the disrespect side too. Not just respect. An analysis that takes into account both sides and isn't just fanboyism, you know?

>>719158083
He didn't ask you shit. I did.
>>719158191
hey fuck you buddy

>>719158304
I know, but I'm still interested. I never claimed I asked anything, he claimed I did. And now you're angry at me even when someone else made the mistake. Fuck you, buddyboy.

>>719158191
>You MUST also disrespect something about everything you respect otherwise you're a fanboy
Man, what are you even doing with your life. This is just so obviously retarded. You're not interested in what I'm going to say. You just have some sort of issue with the game in question and want to find a reason to fight me because I don't share your pov. Just shitpost about the game. at least that's honest.

>>719158403
So you're a blind fanboy who can only see one side and has no capacity for critical thought, got it. I wanted to have a discussion, but since you refuse to say anything negative about the game you worship and breath for, there's just no purpose. Adults should be capable of having multilayered discussions that explore different angles and perspectives, but I'm not going to find that here, not from you. You're a shill and you must have a Reddit account.

>>719158567
Sure, buddy, you got it

>>719158608
Knew it.

>>719154165 (OP)
I enjoy it but don't respect it, fun blowing shit up with a bunch of powder kegs but i don't agree with any of the "messages" it has.

It's hard to enjoy a game where you can revive anyone at any point and you have a spell that just oneshots everyone (Divine Smite)

>>719155357
It's retarded to respect a game that isn't enjoyable to play that is what they are made for, you obviously listed BG3 because it is heavy in propaganda.

>>719158850
This. That's like respecting a house you can't even live in. Or respecting food you can't even eat. Pure Reddit logic.

>>719158932
>respecting a house
>respecting food
what the FUCK are you even talking about

>>719158850
>>719158932
Literal nigger mindsets you have.

>>719159329
Stunning and brave

>>719157714
I respect your respectful opinion anon
This game is a masterpiece though, shame you didn't enjoy it, seems like you are someone with good taste, you should be able to.

Although i want you to know that BG3 is not related to any RPG like Fallout or Bioware games, its a game related to classics from 80s and 90s, its more like Ultima meets DnD if anything, maybe you came expecting a Bioware game or some Obsidian game, i immediately knew what to expect based on the early access and their previous work.

I feel to enjoy BG3 you have to like 4 things.

1-You have to enjoy DnD simulation
2-You have to enjoy immersive-sims game design
3-You have to enjoy Turnbased battle system
4-You have to enjoy games for being games and not for their immersion or walls of text (story)

>>719160015
That was my whole point. I enjoy all those things on paper. It just doesn't translate for me.

>>719160187
There must be a reason, maybe you are burned out.

>>719160298
The reason is the game is SHIT and you're fucking retarded. Tell the story your last D&D campaign had and kind of character you played.

>>719160374
>Suddenly a wild sperg appears in chat

lol

>>719160426
>never played D&D
>makes these grandiose claims about others simply not enjoying D&D, thus not liking BG3
D&D fans are precisely the ones who don't like your AAA garbage with cut mechanics.

He's so mad lol
Bye retard unload your mental illness on someone else.

>>719160593
Still waiting for your tabletop campaign story. You don't have one, because you're a poser. A D&D 'fan' who is yet to play D&D for the first time. Faggot.

>>719154165 (OP)
respecting something more than enjoying it is just admitting that you dont really get the hype, wich is understandable. bg3 is shit.

>>719154165 (OP)
It's insanely good from an RPG game design perspective but artistically it's lacking. It has some pretty huge problems like the generic setting and artstyle, or the weird dating sim shit, and the story is pretty whatever. It's pretty juvenile and uninspired despite how it appears on the surface. Maybe I'm just saded about vidya in general because I'm finally starting to grow up and seeing how fucking stupid most games are but then something like BG3 is only extra frustrating to me. They made this amazing framework that they could use to tell incredible stories but it's just basic LOTR-ripoff "we have to get the three gems from the orcs so we can stop the sauronbrain" bullshit, oh and also you can walk around with your dick out even though it makes no sense to do so and somehow nobody will care or comment on it (this means our game is """mature""")

>>719160187
>>719160298
Game is still way too limited to feel even close to an actual DnD experience. Lacks most of the cool spells, which is also why it keeps you low level, lacks nearly all item variety. Just about everything is streamlined down to blasty magic, basic summons, and healing, even flying is lame and barely useful.
The few opportunities you have to use spells in unique ways or affect the environment feel more like easter eggs you have to hunt for than an immersive reactive experience.

Obviously this stuff is hard to do and a lot of coding and branching effort so I don't see much hope unless AI gets really good.

>>719154546
>>719154682
>>719154889
>>719155901
>>719160753
3 years later still bearbroken

>>719160902
gib frog wife

>>719154664
>>719154817
oh sorry, 9 minutes and 39 seconds

>>719161083
Projection, im 100% sure you are a seething redditor, no downvote button here for you retard, keep seething.
Go shill your dogshit clunky r/crpg and downvote people who disagree with your dogshit taste

>>719154587
finally a sane take, even with its flawed story and elements, BG3 is a fun game to play

>>719154165 (OP)
Baldur's gate I and II for sure i know they were big in their time and contributed alot to the crpg genre, but the pixel shit graphics and the clunky mechanics gives me the ick so i can't finish them.

>>719161271
NTA but still waiting for your campaign story. You don't seem like a person who plays D&D because you don't know grammar and you only play AAA garbage.

>>719161023
The "Cool" spells you want are spells that will trivialize every encounter in the game and destroy any sense of coherency in its design.

You're obviously a tasteless retard, post your favorite games so i can laugh at you

>>719154587
Factual.
The romances are gay, the fag/tranny stuff is gay, but the combat is the most enjoyable I’ve experienced - turn based or not. Also the writing isn’t completely gay, I got a good few laughs on my playthroughs

>>719154165 (OP)
GUYS REAL QUESTION: What are the quintessential mods for this bitch?
idc if it's coom mod or Qol mod I need them for my first playthrough

>>719160298
I don't have a defined single thing that I can point to that I don't like, and it's not burn out because I tune out of it even after just a couple of hours, While I can spend 10hrs straight on other games I'm into any day. I feel like it may just be simply related to what this anon is saying>>719160902
I guess maybe it's just that the story just isn't there for me. There's no real forward thrust to the narrative and I really don't give a fuck about the whole Cthulu mages and the brain bugs, which can be fine, I mean, to bring it back to New Vegas, I also don't really care about the platinum chip or the fate of New Vegas really, because for me it's more about the world and the characters all around it. But yeah, I guess now that I'm thinking about it, I can absolutely see how a really gripping story to propell you through the game and make you want to progress to see where it goes would massively help keeping me engaged.

>>719161404
The combat is way too easy, bro.

>>719155357
Yes you did.
>>719158932
>food analogy

>>719161456
I already listed 4 things for you which you claimed you check them out, but this post proves that its not the case. There is your reason. You don't play games for the gameplay.

>>719154546
>Sven Vincke 62%

The guy must be ridiculosuly rich, the only other guy that can probably match him is probably the Mount & Blade guy.

>>719154165 (OP)
I respect the work they put into it but I just don't like the writing. The plot could suck and it'd be fine but the characters just aren't interesting or likeable.

>>719161601
huh?

>>719160902
Making a game as Art and then giving the player hundereds of tools to bend the game is not a good synergy.

You either go full art like Alan Wake 2 or you commit to being a videogame simulation.

>>719161703
Contrary to what you've been saying, turns out BG3 is not the game for you.

>>719161670
Why would you respect a group of blue-haired hambeasts wondering 24/7 how to destroy the so-called patriarchy and turn it into a high budget video game for the mentally poor.

>>719161601
BG3 is a movie game. Stop projecting.

>>719161841
They put a lot of work into it retard

>>719161913
Kill(you)rself

>>719161769
You can absolutely make a sandbox-y experience still constrained within a tight vision with greater artistic goals. An extreme example would be something like Shadow of the Clossus. 100% possible and thinking otherwise is just lacking in imagination.

>>719161841
Because they make people like you mad

>>719162028
SoTC doesnt have the simulation and depth in gameplay that a game like BG3, in fact SoTC is widely criticized for its lackluster gameplay and shallow game design.

>>719161837
Well apparently not since I can't get into it. If you're suggesting the reason I'm into it is because I don't actually like the mechanical aspects then you're wrong because I do, as I've already told you.

>>719161841
>for the mentally poor
If you're using 4chan to try and feel superior to people you've never met then you're probably part of that group

>>719162165
Right, but there's nothing inherent to a sim style system that would hinder your ability to infuse it with a defined artistic vision. My point with bringing SOTC is that a vision can be infused even into a non linear game experience. The mechanical depth and complexity of the game systems, from where I'm sitting, do absolutely nothing to enhance or hinder the infusion of a vision.

>>719162202
Yeah i didn't say you didnt like them, you wrote a post talking about that I said that you don't play games for them though, like those things are not what makes you go out of your way to invest time into the game.

>>719162423
There is, bending the game using various set of rules is anti-thesis of designing a creative artistic vision that has a particular and coherent theme and tone it will never work.
If you do both you end up diluting one of them.

>>719162439
what? When did I say any of that?

>>719162658
>ending the game using various set of rules is anti-thesis of designing a creative artistic vision
This is complete nonsense. You can absolutely segregate the complexity of the mechanics from the aesthetics. Is it easier to craft a singular vision in a linear, mechanically simple game? Yes. Is it impossible failing both conditions? Absolutely not.

>>719154165 (OP)
this game is not based, thus deserves ZERO respect, end of story.
will be forgotten alongside every modern game, just like monster hunter wilds, will sell a lot to mouth breathing normies who can't form a community because they aren't gamers, and left no cultural impact.
pure garbage and waste.

>>719162715
here
>>719161456
>because for me it's more about the world and the characters all around it
>a really gripping story to propell you through the game and make you want to progress to see where it goes would massively help keeping me engaged.

>>719162439
You are mentally ill. You just strawman, that's all you can do. He never those things. You are just blaming others when the problem is clearly in the game and in your head, but you can't accept that.

You can't possibly be anything but a bot. Considering you can't write, you are the last person to talk about RPGs. When is your axewound surgery?

>>719161482
Solo/duo parties or joke builds that make you think outside the box are the most rewarding

>>719162848
I think you need to get outside more man

>>719162842
We are talking about games as art and developer who use the game to create an artistic vision, not about aesthetics.

Disco Elysium is a prime example, you have a very scripted progression route to continue, even though you may see a ladder to climb up, you can't interact with the ladder unless the game allows you to do so, because they dont want your freedom to come in the way of their artistic vision.
Or Silent Hill 2, which has many places where you can actually solve the game logically but it doesnt allow you because of its vision, e.g when James want to reach the key on the other side in the Apartments, he cant use the stick to grab it, instead you are forced to circle back the whole level so that you can view the cutscenes as intended.

>>719163025
I think you should because you are the one who starts thinking bears are for sexual relationships and other sick, degenerate things like that. BG3 fart humor is not so popular once you leave your house. Stop forcing people to be gay.

>>719163130
I'm not into BG3. I just think you shouldn't treat /v/ like your therapist and get offline for a while.

>>719163025
j think that if i went outside for an hour and came back, you would STILL be unable to link or name a SINGLE cultural mark bg3 leff in this world.
faggot little famboy retard

>>719163252
If you dislike BG3, then there's no contradiction in your post and you spared yourself of my criticism. Dodge accepted.

>>719163325
Oh we got a Badass redditor here. how many upvotes did you do today?

>>719162852
I was talking about New Vegas in particular there and speaking specifically about the narrative component. I'm not saying anything about playing BG3 for the narrative, just that a lackluster one is probably a significant factor in me not feeling any motivation to engage with the game. I can like all the systems and appreciate all the detail and scale of the sandbox, but if I feel no motivation to go or do anything in particular in/with it, then it sort of dissipates the whole experience.

>>719163458
>I can like all the systems and appreciate all the detail and scale of the sandbox, but if I feel no motivation

>>a really gripping story to propell you through the game and make you want to progress to see where it goes would massively help keeping me engaged.


There you go.

>>719163105
I will just repeat myself. Yes, it's easier to build and put a vision across with a linear and mechanically constrained game but doesn't mean you can't still do it failing those conditions. It's just harder to do so. And even then it depends. If your vision necessitates an open world and complex and loose mechanics then an open game with deep and complex mechanics is the only way you can properly bring that vision to life. I feel like you have a very narrow view of what an artistic vision can be.

>>719163419
It's a good thing you've been registered and you'll never be allowed to own a pet. You're a danger to all the animals in the world, tranny.

>>719163568
Yes, that's what I said. I don't get your point.

>>719163568
>too stupid to read
What school you went to?

>>719163652
I gave you examples, it cannot work well. You can try, but it will never work well.

Developer has an artistic vision, he can't make it and give you the tools to bend that vision, the end result is that his vision gets distorted, unless you want to think the point is to make his vision distorted which then proves my point anyway.


Art vision that has no depth, its ultimately meaningless, you can make a huge game and tell me the vision is to "survive" but then what? thats shallow and weak and ultimately it circles back to mechanics, because the vision is so shallow that its uplifted by the simulation instead.

itt: dumb worthless shit
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>>719163775
You play games for stories.
I'm done entertaining your ass, fuck off already. if you want to troll me next time write a more coherent position, your position already has 3 cracks so far

>>719154165 (OP)
I'm sure this thread just turned into bitching about the one game in OP, but my actual answer to this would be Dwarf Fortress and My Summer Car. I can't really get myself to play either fully committed but I really appreciate the way they were put together and what they are. I feel there's a venn diagram crossover between this category and the "games you're a fan of but have not really played" topic that's been hot around here lately.

>>719163997
I'm just an observer, the other poster is being clear as a day yet you just can't comprehend what is being said. And you seem to fight with everybody in this thread so I'll let you be, dramaqueen. People like you attract drama no matter where they go.

>>719163997
I do? Damn. I really thought I loved Total War after sinking thousands of hours into it but I guess I don't since it doesn't have a story..... Thanks anon, now I know I should stop playing it because I actually don't like it...

>>719161402
>The "Cool" spells you want are spells that will trivialize every encounter in the game and destroy any sense of coherency in its design.
Yes because its design is just turn based tactics with the standard, ranged/melee/healing larping as DnD. If it had more complex encounters with lots of things happening beyond just blasting 5-10 guys then it would not be broken as easily. Even familiars suck in this game and are devolved down to crappy basic summons, those aren't generally considered broken in normal DnD, devs were just too lazy to make them a thing. Necromancy sucks and everything turns into generic zombie/skeleton summon.
They have an encounter where an inn is burning which seems like it would be an interesting place to mix things up but you quickly find it is very railroaded and you can only put out a couple very specific fires.
I'm not sure what amazing challenge you think is going to be lost since this game is pissbaby easy as is.

>You're obviously a tasteless retard, post your favorite games so i can laugh at you
Morrowind
Sorry if I pissed in your cheerios and insulted your dream game. It is an okay time-waster for a week or so but is not even close to an actual dnd experience, better off with chatgpt.