Thread 719169679

why hasn't anyone made a game that's just power armor?

>>719169679 (OP)
Daemon X Machina Titanic Scion; releases next month and it has a demo on Steam right now.

>>719169679 (OP)
this, we neeed more gundam tank-like games

>>719169679 (OP)
... isn't that just Halo?

>>719169882
I like how the Guntank in Gundam 0079 is absolute trash while in Gundam videogames it's death incarnate if you know how to use it

>>719169843
that's mecha not power armor

>>719170384
no, halo is body armor

>>719170396
Both are mecha but the second game is clearly power armor, or did you just assume it's like the first.

>>719169882
You can literally build that in armored core vi

>>719169882
the pic in the op is the power armor from the starship troopers ova, gundam is mecha not power armor

>>719170396
You're confused.
The first Daemon X Machina game, called Daemon X Machina, is indeed an Armored Core clone.
The new Daemon x Machina game, called Daemon x Machina Titanic Scion, gets rid of mecha and instead the player uses power armor.

Well, Titanic Scion still have mecha but they're a timed Devil Trigger-esque super mode. 99.99% of the game you will be on power armor.

>>719169679 (OP)
Wasn't there a garbage robotech game for the PS2 where the power armor in the game that carried like a dozen missiles weren't allowed to use missiles?

>>719170384
The guntank isn't particularly good in any gundam game, except maybe as a back in Gundam Vs Gundam (the weird one that got ported that sucked)

I don't remember it being good in federation vs zeon (because guncannon was right there)

It's not good in gundam battle universe, it's not good in MSGO, it's really bad in GBO2, and I can't comment on how it is in gihren's greed.

>>719170396
at what point does power armor transition into being a mech. like the suits in obsolete, would they be mechs or power armor.

>>719170567
Gundam was originally meant to be power armor

>>719170701
Mech

>>719170502
>Both are mecha
both of what? mecha and power armor are not the same thing
>the second game is clearly power armor
looks like mecha, behaves like mecha. doesn't look like a power armor game to me. votoms is clearly mecha but the scopedog looks and behaves more like power armor than that game you are talking about.

>>719170567
No one tell him about G Gundam

>>719170790
>looks like mecha, behaves like mecha. doesn't look like a power armor game to me

You're fucking blind dude, you're literally human sized and there's a bunch of melee options, something that barely exists in votoms

pedantic retard

>>719170701
>like the suits in obsolete, would they be mechs or power armor.
mecha

>>719170697
the Guntank is hilarious in Gundam Vs Zeta Gundam OYW missions
>hang in the back, keep circle pressed, spam R1
>if some faggot gets uppity pepper him with the hands
that's it. mission complete, C or better newtype ranking, barely get hit

also from what I heard from /m/ the Ball, the basic ass GM and the Tin Cod are some of the best units in Giheren's Greed so I wouldn't be too surprised if the Guntank happens to be petty good as well

>MA.K has been around for almost half a decade and there's still no MA.K vidya
I just want to stomp around in an MK44 Ammo Knight god damn it

>>719170921
melee has nothing to do with power armor, the way the suit behaves is just fun sized mecha. power armor is a tank not a tiny macross rip off

>>719169679 (OP)
they tried that in the 90s, it got blown out by Mechwarrior but most games did at the time.

>>719170954
I built a MK44 somewhat recently :)
but yes I agree I desperately want a maschinen krieger game
kow's designs are so fucking good.

>>719170947
The GM is way better than the basic zaku in ghiren's greed because having a shield in that game is huge. It's far from being one of the best units, but it's a federation early-mid staple. The same goes for the Tin Cod but that's because you're forced to use your conventional arms units because you have no mobile suits.

>>719170921
>there's a bunch of melee options,
The fuck does melee have to do with power? The difference between mechs and power armor is very simple. Power armor is armor you wear. Mechs are vehicles with legs you pilot. It's not exactly rocket science

>>719169882
it bugs me how unprotected the pilot of the original guntank is.

>>719171290
Well he said Votoms were more like power armor, so I thought he was talking about size and mobility, which Daemon X Machina has both super small power armor suits and mobility, but it turns out talking to a retard like him was a waste of time.

There are Battletech games where you play as battle armor infantry. MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf has you fighting mechs regularly while in battle armor. It also lets you pilot mechs and drive vehicles, but the core is power armor.

>>719171420
power armor is a big suit of armor you wear that's basically like a tank. what you are selling is not power armor but fun sized mecha.

>>719170384
In all fairness, the Guntank pilots in the original series were very subpar. It required two pilots (which usually included an untrained civilian) and sometimes ran suboptimally with only one pilot. It was also showcased next to the RX-79, which is enough to make any mobile suit look like shit.

If the original series had Amuro and Sayla holding hands in the Guntank, it'd have kicked a ton of ass.

>>719171742
>It was also showcased next to the RX-79, which is enough to make any mobile suit look like shit.
counterpoint: Kai makes the Guncannon come off as an absolute beast of a close quarter combat mobile suit, despite the fact it doesn't have any melee weapons save for its bare hands and legs. have you forgotten how many times Kai either beats the shit out of zeek mobile suits or smashes them to bits by throwing boulders at them?

>>719169679 (OP)
you mean, like anthem?
because you know... there was anthem. and you know what lesson industry learned?
that people hate power armor games. because logic.

>>719171203
Been working on an MK44 axe knight for a while now. The kit also came with parts for the White Knight so I've been thinking doing a kitbash for this one, maybe give it the rear assembly and feet of the white knight (I like the designs of the MK44 but I'm not a big fan of the hover slippers for the more standard models). It also came with the parts for the hammer knight's rocket launcher so I've been thinking of doing something with that as well.

>>719172260
nice! yeah the feet on the mk44 is a bit clown shoe like, the white knight defiantly has a better design in that regard.

>>719170589
Invasion? It's not that bad. You can use missiles but only in motorcycle mode. The power armor mechanics are probably the best part. The issue is that there's only like 3 types of enemies and 4 guns lol, really needs more variety.

>>719171543
Wish it emulated properly. The power armor gameplay is more fun than the mechs lol, you actually get to zoom around.
>>719172134
I think anthem flopped because people don't like power armor games that are shit.

Iron man wouldn't be one of the most successful films of all time if people didn't like it.

Best size for mecha?

>>719173324
>I think anthem flopped because people don't like power armor games that are shit.
you get it, i get it. but if an executive needs to explain why his project flopped on a board meeting will he admit it? or will he pull out the spreadsheet confirming that people dont like power armor games?
i had the same issue with werewolf games (not the furry type, the world of darkness type). there ware multiple projects, all shit and what they learned is that "market does not like games with werewolfs".

>but how can you know that anon? you are just pulling that out of your ass.
if they had data confirming that enough people are willing to spend money on something, they would make it.
thats why we have lgb+furry themes growing in the industry because those groups swallow (almost) everything thrown in their way.
and you have the audacity to also expect it to be a good game there somewhere...

>>719174290
Who cares? Anthem was six years ago. DxM2 is now, so pay attention to how that does instead.

He's going to pull out the spreadsheet that tells them everything they've done for fifteen years+ has been steadily making diminishing returns and he's instead gonna greenlight a hero shooter open world crafting extraction game that'll take 8 years to develop and have a max of 200 players, so it doesn't matter anyway. Don't worry about "the industry".

>>719174596
>>DxM2 is now, so pay attention to how that does instead.
...sorry but i dont like dxm esthetics.

>>719174290
>>719174596
Actually I just googled it, anthem still sold five million copies lol, that's not bad at all. Franchises have been started over less.
This is just retarded suits demanding all new games sell a bajillion copies and then immediately pulling the plug on it when it obviously doesn't. They do this all the time and will never learn. Again yeah don't worry about "the industry".
>>719174953
Looks much the same as anthem to me.

>>719170697
It was good in Gundam Evolution in teamfights, because you could just melt enemy groups without aiming

>>719171156
There was also Heavy Gear by Activision that ran on a modified Mechwarrior 2 engine after they lost the Mechwarrior license.
Heavy Gear 2 around 2001 or 2002 also.

They play a bit different, 2 has more stealth/ ambush mechanics whereas 1 is a bit closer to a degree to Mechwarrior. I think 2 also had some battles take place on the exterior of ships in space ?

They are close in size to Votoms

>>719170701
>at what point does power armor transition into being a mech.
That's actually a serious debate and we don't have official etymology because people use whatever they think sound cooler.
It's often said:
"power armor are worn"
"mecha are piloted"

Then you have dumbass who think that mimicking the movement of a machine that weight several times your mass and can't move without actuators somehow make it a "power armor".

IMO the line is crossed when the machine stop needing to use the human body to stand on its own. Reaching robot when they operate on their own. Meaning most of "Iron man" suit are robot capable of carrying a dumbass, not even needing the power source.
Then you can imagine edge case, where the lower part can walk on its own but the upper part can't support itself,
Or say a Dr.Octopus tentacles backpack, a mecha/robot that can also be carried by its operator.

>>719170808
Domon is still piloting a giant mech in G Gundam, thoughbeit.

GQuuX is a radical departure from standard Gundam fare, so maybe we'll actually see an AU where Gundams are just shogun power armor, which is what I thought they were when I was a kid.

>>719169679 (OP)
So like Halo, Crysis, Metroid?

>>719173814
Feels like that Scopedog on the illustration is too large. I'd say Scopedog/Titanfall-sized for a more grounded setting. OG Gundam and Zakus are already pushing it and only work for my autism in settings that have kaijus to fight.

Section 8 was nothing but power armor.

In my opinion and working on zero basis
>Powered armor augments infantry
>Mecha is taking an action and augmenting it with machinery
Therefore
>All power armor is mecha, but not all mecha is power armor

>>719170954
Here is your Mk44 Ammo Knight

>>719173814
ATs or Gears are the perfect size honestly