Thread 719173628

Fuck off with your nvidia propaganda.

>>719173628 (OP)
Based chart. Been saying this for a while now, games from almost a decade ago still exist so we know when devs are trying to offload effort onto consumer hardware.

>>719173628 (OP)
If you use any Rockstar, Bethesda or CDPR game as a measuring stick for quality, nothing you say about games matters. At all.

>>719173628 (OP)
>>719173935
both of these are correct

>>719173935
Care to elaborate?

>>719174258
It's pretty self-explanatory.

>>719174394
It's not
RDR2 is literally the highest quality game ever made.

>>719174258
it's like thinking american food is real food

>>719173935
cyberpunk doesn't look good. it has one of the most terrible draw distances and lod system ever, and you can't improve it without fucking up something else.

>>719174506
Nothing you say about games matters. At all.

>>719174761
>Food analogy

>>719174997
kys UE shill.

>>719174997
>boo hoo i was too stupid to use the radial wheel because it offered too mawny choices ;-;
>oh nooo i have to learn how to hunt bears i cant just shoot them booooo hooo ;-;
>oh no they are yapping too much i cant doomscroll my grindr ;-;

>>719175079
>>719175170
You're brown

>>719175079
gotta know your audience, since this site is majority USians, 90% of posters are blops who can relate anything to food

I will even bet the only thing you are able to imagine vividily in your head, is a big mac

>>719174997
Assuming we're just discussing visuals, how is he wrong? Even if you think it's a shit game, the visuals and attention to detail are good. The argument is that modern games that look worse somehow demand stronger hardware, which is a sign of incompetence on the part of devs.

>>719175594
You are a nigger faggot ue shill.

>>719176519
What if a game looks as good but has more going on in terms of physics, AI or dynamic lighting? Should it require better hardware or not? Yes or no, since this is what we're talking about.

>>719176898
Sure, I agree that it should if it's doing something special aside from just pretty visuals.

>>719176898
>has more going on in terms of physics, ai
More than RDR2, hitman or MGS5??

>dynamic lighting
Pointless if your game looks worse than rdr2.

>>719177487
Then you agree the flowchart and line of thinking is inherently flawed because "DUDE RDR2 LOOKS SO GOOD" is a worthless sentiment in a vacuum.

>>719177582
Nothing you say about games matters.

>>719178828
Name game technically more impressive than RDR2.

>>719178910
Club Penguin

>>719176898
By all means post one that exists

>>719178910
Name something you think is technically impressive in games that isn't horse balls.

>>719179736
>RDR2
>physics, AI or impressive dynamic lighting
What?

>>719173935
Least contrarian /v/irgin

the only reason people go amd is bc they cant afford intel/nvidia. every post like this on the whole internet is so unnecessary, the universe doesn't hear you. the concept of a-tier and b-tier hardware was invented by God, it is written into the universe itself. just make more money, otherwise be grateful you have any access to modern technology at all.

>>719173935
WRONG!

>>719178910
Literally any ue5 release.
Cyberpunk
Alan Wake 2
Metro Exodus, really all of the metro games
Indiana Jones
Doom TDA

>>719173628 (OP)
Add the following:
>if you take any of your analysis of graphical engines from Threat Twink-eractive, your opinions should be redirected to the closest trash bin.

>>719177582
>physics, ai
>MGS5
lol

>>719180036
>finally he reveals himself as a UE5 shill

>>719180278
Cope and seethe you filthy black, ue5 games are good.
New versions fixes the one major issue, stuttering. Silent Hill F according to "journalists" runs perfectly.

>>719180278
>Le UE bad
You don’t even know how to code, much less understand what you’re even asserting. And if you’re correct, you’re correct for the wrong reasons which is worse than being wrong.

>>719179974
I agree about GPUs but there's quite literally no reason to buy an Intel CPU and that's been true for 5 years now. They get absolutely mogged in anything that matters and their shills are reduced to talking about idle power draw and synthetic bench perf at pricepoints.

>>719180894
>Intel CPU and that's been true for 5 years now. They get absolutely mogged in anything that matters and their shills are reduced to talking about idle power draw and synthetic bench perf at pricepoints.
Are you retarded? They win only in video games, and it's only the x3d chips
5800x3d was slower than intel still

>>719180363
>>719180454
>UE5 shill explodes in rage when someone points at him

>>719181078
Shilling how? It's a fact that the only people who seethe about unreal engine are Threat Interactive tards or poorfags.

>1999 game
>Ummm rendering a room twice to make a working mirror is a waste of resources!

>2025
>Actually, it's perfectly acceptable for mirrors to eat 60% of your frames

>>719173935
Wrong. Rockstar is an order of magnitude higher quality than Bethesbug and CDPRolapse

>>719179810
it has all of those at reasonable levels
the only games that exist which are better in those regards are older

>>719173935
Replace Bethesda with From slopware and this system it is correct

>>719180036
Alan Wake 2 only looks nice when literally nothing is happening, any time there's anything going on there's tons of smearing and stupid post processing going on.

>>719181615
Fromsoft doesn't try to be cutting edge graphically.

>>719180998
There's no reason to have a CPU except videogames. Any serious CPU work can be rented out for less than the cost of a system. sometimes for free even.
>5800x3d was slower than intel still
Intel's Alder Lake launch slides had a famous orange line on the graphs because they were forced to admit that their brand new architecture was still slower than AMD's last gen 5800X3D. It was hilarious and humbling.

>>719173628 (OP)
Honestly never liked the way RDR2 looks.
There's something wrong with it, maybe it lacks contrast or saturation or there's too much blur or unnecessary fog, I don't know.

>>719173935
You can certainly use rockstar as a measuring stick for graphical quality.
That doesn't mean you think the games are good.

>>719173628 (OP)
>RDR2
Literally who?
This better not be some snoy movieslop.

>>719173935
based take

>>719182225
some brokeback mountain vn

>>719173935
fpbp

>>719181878
>There's no reason to have a CPU except videogames
Stopped reading there

>>719180206
Kys it has better ai and physics than 98% games.

>>719179742
Amazing animal anatomy and behaviours, also great animal physics and amazing sky boxes with volumetric clouds.

>>719180036
What's technically impressive about any of those same? They all have shitty physics, systems and ai.

Ig metro exodus looks really pretty but that's it.

>>719182225
>>719182374
Examples of a graphically impressive game with open world and good physics.

>>719181545
It has them in the sense that they exist but none of them are impressive.

>>719183207
It's true. Dwi

>>719185016
Idk man, physics looks pretty great when you shoot deer on the leg
And ai also shines time to time when you actually get to play the game and clean hideouts and stuff.

>>719173935
SPBP

>>719173935
Trvth nvke

>>719184569
>better ai
>amazing animal behaviours
>MGSV
Ride your horse to some wild wolves and see how in depth their AI were programmed to behave together.
Try disarming an opponent and see what they do.

>>719185184
Euphoria ragdolling is the only good part of the game.

>>719185617
Animal behaviour and physics is better than any other game.
>>719185628


You guys are missing the point entirely, it looks great despite physics and more complex ai behaviour
So new games have no excuse to look and run like shit on 5090.

>>719176519
monster hunter wilds is the first thing that comes to mind
whoever was the lead dev that created the RE engine needs to be hanged, drawn and quartered

>>719186008
>despite physics and more complex ai behaviour
RDR2 has none of that except for euphoria ragdolls.

>>719186194
Fuck you faggot
Shoot a deer in the leg, you'll see how good the physics really is.

>>719186008
>better than any other game
their whole AI breaks the second you bring your horse next to a wild animal. which will happen all the time because every mission begins with mandatory horse ride to the objective.

>>719173935
trvke

>>719184749
>open world
I don't care about graphics in otherwise shit games.

>>719180278
>seethes at the very mension of UE
why do you nvidiots hate UE so much when it is the fault of nvidia's drivers that causes all the issues related to the engine?

>>719187213
Ohnonono not like this

>>719187369
6 watt per fps....
+700 mb vram.....
+50 watt vs greenvidia
+200 RPM
-11% cpu utilization

AMD bros, how will we recover??? When will Lisa fix the drivers???

>>719173628 (OP)
>shills for RDR2
>"Fuck off with your nvidia propaganda."
Ironic, because using Nvidia's DLSS in RDR2 results in drastically better image quality than what the game initially shipped with.

>>719187765
Oh no #RedTeam Gamer Girl Bros, the #GreenTeam cannot be stopped!

>>719184654
>What's technically impressive about any of those same? They all have shitty physics
Doom TDA has proper physics. Certainly better than RDR2. But who am I kidding, nobody on this board has player games after 2019 so how the fk would you know anyway?

>>719186420
That's the euphoria ragdolling, you fucking idiot. Why are casuals who deify Rockstar games so fucking stupid?

>>719173628 (OP)
>HL2
>looks worse than RDR2
>therefore its system requirements aren't justified
Damn, valve, you incompetent fucks

>>719187369
Gamergaalsaars, I'm reluctant to stay on Team Red anymore after seeing these deeply disappointing news of Team Red not being able to optimize they're drivers! I... do not know what to do anymore... I feel like tearing my RX 9070 XT apart and buying a RTX 5090...

>>719174506
It's a high production value game, yes.
Quite an impressive simulation of wildlife, world reactivity and NPC behavior yes, it's a really cool display of attention to detail.
As a game it's mediocre at best
Story missions are on rails while the story is not even engaging enough to make you want to go through this slog, the design is shit
Side activities are boring as fuck
Shooting involves 0 skill and shootouts are boring as a result
Riding the horse isn't fun
Everything about the game part of this video game is subpar.