Thread 719178904

>>719178904 (OP)
Why does this game have so many heavies?

>>719179160
the dev seriously thinks its funny

>draw male
>call it a girl

>>719178904 (OP)
Fleet beans

>>719178904 (OP)
sex with female insects and altering their genetic composition to turn them into queens

>>719179248
thats roa for ya

>>719179359
what the FUCK are these proportions?

>>719178904 (OP)
I just contacted Sena about this, don't need to thank me

>>719179248
> cool luchador bug design
> muh strong whamen archetype slapped on for no reason
the sad part is it being a woman made me lose interest, now it just feels like "sneaking the veggies in" type design

>>719178904 (OP)
>oh a bugman? that's coo-
>female
Why do they have to be such fags?

>>719183193
Exactly. I'm not even a barafag, but if the visual design says "male" that's what I expect to be given.

>>719179248
Female ants should be big since they do all the work.

>>719183685
Ants aren't bulky, they have twig limbs. So if you're going to rest on realism, no they shouldn't.

would

>>719183310
just play krag, but yes they are fags

>>719179359
Would lick

>>719183765
Using an element of "realism" does not mean everything should be obliged to be realistic. Especially for something that already picks and chooses what animalistic traits are used for the characters.

>>719182679
lmao this creature was the first thing that came to mind. nothing says “Latina” like a white faggot from kentucky

>>719184014
Listen buddy. We all know why they're doing this. They are virtue-signaling their asses off. This isn't just a "logical extrapolation of ant strength." They are officially trying to go against gender moulds.

>>719184287
Yes, i'm sure the 500 concurrent player niche platform fighter made for weirdos that normalfags don't play is going to dismantle gender roles as we know it.

>>719185104
That's cute. Conflating "success" with the mere attempt. Because only people capable of actually shifting the narrative try, right?

>>719184287
she's one musclegirl in a game where all the women are super skinny. cmon, anon.

>>719185338
...And none of the girls have boobs. Not a one.

>>719185674
They are literally animals why whould they have boobs?

>girls aren't allowed to have boobs
>but guys are allowed to have big barrel chests with pecs and tiny loincloths
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>719186348
ANTHRO animals. They literally have the body structure of a human. Go browse for one second on e621 and try to tell me them being animals stopped anyone from drawing boobs on them. Who do you think you're fooling?

>>719186348
>They are literally animals
>clearly drawn like a human strongman with pecs and everything
>but boobs is a step too far somehow
every time.

>>719178904 (OP)
Say no more famm

>>719178904 (OP)
Mucle mommy slop is the worst.
I will not play this fetish game.

Grappler, heavy and brute should be male only classes.

>>719185239
>Because only people capable of actually shifting the narrative try, right?
Do you destroy an ant colony by killing each worker individually?

>>719178904 (OP)
0 feminine features

>>719186950
What the fuck are you spouting now? Shut the hell up and take the L.

>>719186819
>>719182679
get in line

>>719178904 (OP)
I refuse to believe this was the contest winner

>>719183685
Bugs are woke

>>719187574
she is the most fun to play of the bunch tbqh

>>719187409
>What the fuck are you spouting now?
Pick your battles retard. Literally everyone tries to push an narrative or agenda. You won't stop or start anything by going after every single "attempt". You whinge about them virtue signalling, but that's literally what you've been doing in this thread about a game that can't even get 100+ posts here.

>>719178904 (OP)
Soulless game

>>719188130
You are such a dishonest arguer. I wonder if you're even honest with yourself for why you're running defense. Someone with no stake in this would just say "yeah, it's pretty dumb they won't abide by a bodytype a girl could really have" and that would be the end of it.
>Literally everyone tries to push an narrative or agenda.
Spoken like someone who lets these issues steer their whole life. No, not everybody has to make their video game purport their stances on matters like gender and shit. And the reason people are upset is because they tried. Fuck off.

>>719187670
Most of these look like furry porn OCs

>>719188469
The gay ones, anyways. Not a bone thrown to heteros.

>>719188439
You call me dishonest when you assume a neutral party automatically agrees with your viewpoint that it's dumb for fantasy to deviate from reality?

>>719188263
>putting comprehensive modding tools in the game for free
>holding contests where they pay fans to make their OCs official
what other fighting game is doing anything half as soulful? tell me

>>719188806
Yes? Neutral parties have much more baseline ideas of men and women. Humanity has been this way for only all of recorded history until like 10 years ago. And even the majority of humanity alive TODAY does not see gender through the lens of backwards American reinvention. That's literally the way of the world, broseph.

>>719188960
>making fan OC's official
God, no wonder

>>719186348
>playing dumb

>>719187574
She was the best one gameplay wise out of all of them. It's just too bad that they designed her like a barafag instead of making her skinny-stronk. Not like it matters anyway though, RoA2 has been dead in the water for almost 8 months now and it won't get any better any time soon since not even their free-play event attracted anyone to the game.

>>719187670
I would've voted for the shulk clone or the snake thing

>>719183193
But ants are female

>>719189273
Where have I heard that before

>>719189440
Everyone in that image is right also multiversus is worse

>>719178904 (OP)
>more women
disgusting

>>719178904 (OP)
Too many heavies and still no Captain Falcon like. No Wrastor is not one

>>719189440
Anon, if they can't even give the game away for free then what makes you think that they can get people to pay for it? Whats worse is that even if they manage to turn the game around the community will kill it anyway since the two people I managed to convince into trying it both said that they would rather have their balls dipped in acid than deal with the community again, they then went back to playing Ultimate and Melee.

>>719189273
it's too late to doomposter, anon. they already announced that workshop support is coming 2026, at which point the game becomes an unstoppable deathball of Roblox and Fortnite children buying the game en masse for wacky custom characters, which means unlimited coffers for dan and his compfag loving team

>>719178904 (OP)
Sounds like yet another race obsessed anti creativity woke piece of shit indie game.

>>719189693
>they already announced that workshop support is coming 2026
Thank fuck if true, I guess they finally learned that trying to design the game like an E-sport will NEVER work regardless how much the sweats scream and cry for attention.

>>719189693

This. But they are also adding all that casual stuff like items, goofy stages, and adventure mode. The "Rivals 2 will flop" ship has sailed. You need to start ignoring Rivals and start fixating on Combo Devils and Royalty Free-For-All for tortanic-posting purposes.

>>719189820
In the video game industry, interesting and fun games that require skill are simply not profitable. They need to be subsidized by idiot casuals who will play the game for 1 hour then never launch it again. Or scrubs who piss themselves if they lose online so they only play versus CPUs. It's a sad state of affairs, and not something that should be celebrated. That's why the industry is in the state it's in where cinematic movie shit that plays itself is the default and anything harder is maligned as sweatlord tryhard [gibberish].

Like honestly. "Sweat". What is that? You think good players have to lean forward and tense all their muscles to do basic combos on you? They're more relaxed and comfy than you are when you play 'em online, 100%.

>>719190285
I'm sorry that you feel that way anon, maybe you shouldn't waste your time on games if you really feel that way, spending a thousand hours on a game that isn't "interesting" or "fun" must really be hell on earth.

>>719190467
?
I'm not sure what you were even going for with this post, and its incomprehensiveness is more than a little embarrassing. I'm not sure what the logic track you even attempted to take is. Are you changing your mind by saying RoA2 is profitable, meaning my comment implies I think it's not fun? That's a general statement and not true of literally every game. I'm bewildered really.

>>719189857
>new menus
how is that a selling point?

>>719189693
Mod capabilities is hardly a guarantee modders ACTUALLY pick it up in any real capacity. Lots of games were moddable but ultimately just had a few lazy reskins.

>>719191437
Yea without a strong foundation good modding tools will go to waste. Just look at Fraymakers. But Rivals 2 has a strong base game built up and an existing modding scene itching to start making characters in the new shiny 2.5D engine with rollback.

>>719189119
But the subject in question here is an Ant, not a human. There's millions of years of precedence for female ants to be the workers and warriors. It literally wouldn't make sense for a male ant to be fighting.

>>719191998
Ants don't have broad shoulders and pecs, anon. It's time to give up this dishonest line of arguing.

>>719178904 (OP)
>Heavies are among the most popular in platform fighters
>Surprised there are lots of heavies

There's plenty of non-heavies to choose from. May I recommend this rat?

>>719191759
We'll see I guess.

>>719192334
does anyone have that Rivals Kart video made with leak build assets?

>>719192324
>Ants don't have broad shoulders and pecs, anon.
And Orcas don't have paws yet this one does. None of the characters in the game strictly adhere to what their respective animal has and doesn't have.

>>719192334
>>Heavies are among the most popular in platform fighters
Not true at all. Where did you get that idea?

>>719193295
Yet none of them have boobs... hmmmmmmmmm

>>719187670
The samurai fox goes hard his design is just a little rough.

the problem isn’t heavies, it’s that the ant and the dinosaur coming in october are both earth characters with magnetism as a gimmick
dan said that la reina’s gameplay was too good to consider that as a dealbreaker, but it’s still funny

>>719194904
I just want Artemis or Eliana bro

>>719193675
because they are an eyesore

>>719193554
People fuckin' love heavies. The only reason you don't see them played in tournaments is because they're typically unviable dogshit like in Smash. Rivals doesn't really have that issue.

>>719194904
There's no guarantee she's after Galvan. If anything, they're trying to subvert expectations, as Dan likes to do.
>>719194975
>Artemis
Same.

>>719195058
Fag.

>>719195067
I like heavies as well but only when they're actual heavies. Heavies are not supposed to move at a normal speed. The appeal of heavies is the fact that they're slow and you have to play in a sort of calculated way to outplay people which doesn't exist in rivals 2 because the "heavies" there move at a normal speed. Also which platform fighters are heavies popular in?

>>719195210
He's right. Look at this image >>719179359 what the fuck are these proportions? These characters are hard to look at. They all look goofy, have weird proportions, or have oddly male looking bodies, and they're all flat aside from clairen. There is nothing to lust over in this game but muscles. I know this will be hard to hear for you but most people like feminine women. Only freaks like what rivals 2 has to offer.

>>719195193
not saying she’s directly after, given the amount of work they publicly still need to do on her, it’s likely that she’ll be later next year
plus we’ll need a water and an air character first to fill out the current character select screen. probably slade and pomm.
artemis probably won’t come til later. they’ve implied the dungeons characters’ movesets will revolve around their weapons so it’s hard to imagine she and hamir wouldn’t also be heavies, but it does seem like they’d kind of be pushing it by then…

>>719195435
Them doing proportions poorly is not a valid argument that they shouldn't have boobs. Maybe they should just make them look good next time. And guess what, boobs is part of that.

>>719186348
Disingenuous retard.

>>719188469
>>719188518
This game is probably made by homos.

>>719183826
Why is her abdomen so small? Give her a fat ass.

>>719185338
>>719183826
You might as well be gay. that bodyshape screams MALE, there is not a single curve of femininity on this character. Iam glad characters are free because Id be annoyed id I have to pay for this

>>719178904 (OP)
PAY
VOICE ACTORS
WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH

>>719195805
>Artemis will be later because she just isn't high omup on their queue
>Elliana likely isn't soon because the vehicle is probably hell to do correctly
I will continue to cope I guess. All the characters I enjoy i feel like a retard playing (ranno and maypul) and I want to like fleet but she is strugglemaxxing the character.

>>719192334
>Rat
>Looks like a bear or some kind of wolf

>>719197043
>probably

>>719179160
The only game to make heavies fun to play against

>>719198881
I don't enjoy fighting lox

>>719198881
At the expense of removing what makes a heavy a heavy

>>719185338
>beowulf but for even bigger faggots
She will never be him

>>719198881
not remotely true. play AS maybe but AGAINST no most games are fine heavies are usually trash

>>719179248
The only thing male ants do is fuck and die.

>>719201512
They also fly.

>>719185338
>>719197293

Yes, it's not just that she's muscular; it's that her body is an exaggerated strongman physique. She looks like what you'd get if you took a top 0.01% genetics guy, and had him power lift while injecting him with a ton of roids.

>>719186639
Why are you in the thread bitching about games you have zero interest in? Most characters wear next to zero clothes. Naked titties do happen to be a step too far.

>>719202610
actually, this goes to all of you
>>719186468
>>719189270
>>719196918

>>719202517
that's all natty earth gains you aircel

>>719195067
Not really, sure people love meming about them, but they don't seem played very often online.

>>719202610
Alright then, give her clothes and titties, problem solved.

It's funny how, with these people, breasts are where they start calling for realism. Intelligent speaking bipedal animals with magic powers are fine, but tits are a step too fantastical.

>>719202758
This character being female is an even greater offense

>>719202517
She's an ant, anon. All the workers and soldiers are female. Males exist only to fuck and then die. Even being anthro, insects may as well be aliens compared to most other animals.

>>719202682
>>719202610
There is no reason they couldn't put a girl in a Sly Cooper style outfit where she's got a top on. A lot of characters already wear clothes.

>>719203083
Yeah, so? What does that change about anything I've said? Like, some of you guys keep bringing this up as if it means anything here.

>>719203098
she is a filthy forest dweller who lives in a tree.

>>719202517
>>719203083
Anon she has fucking pecs. Ants do not remotely have humanoid muscles at all. The fact she's built like a male strongman human isn't solved by saying "WELL ACKSHULLY SHE'S AN ANT SO BOOBS MAKE NO SENSE".

It's like the retards who give female reptile characters big primate hips and ass but draw the line at tits.

>>719203256
People would just shift goalposts to complain instead that she is a heavy/strong character but built like a stick.

>>719203204
That doesn't counter any of what was said. That's not a reason why she couldn't have a top. Fuck the girl in the OP is literally an ant and wears both a top and shorts.

>>719203384
You're the one shifting goalposts, man.

>>719203256
It's almost as if the realism argument is just a scapegoat to dance around the actual point.

>>719203384
Pot meets kettle.

Stop complaining about too many heavies or Dan will delay Elliana even further, reeee

>>719187670
I wanted that Bridget inspired water character instead.

>>719202517
Is your problem you don't like the look of the character aesthetically or are you complaining about realism, because one of these is completely reasonable and the other is absurdly retarded

>>719203498
If they just admitted it's a gay furry game then I could at least respect the honesty.

>>719185338
I'm a massive musclegirlfag and there isn't anything hot about this design. It's literally just a muscular dude these fags are calling a woman for brownie points and no amount of disingenuous goalpost shifting is going to change that. It looks like a musclegirl designed by someone who doesn't like musclegirls and doesn't understand the appeal at all.

>>719202682
I'm only not interested because they've demonstrated no interest in catering to my tastes. If they had hot chicks I'd probably have bought in already.

>>719203929
This is why kemono is where straight guys who like fluffy bitches go. Japs just get it.

>>719187670
is that Venom as a dragon furry?
lmao I'd play it

>>719203703
In that reply, my argument isn't that she's just muscular like >>719185338 is saying, but that she outright looks like a jacked man.

>>719203748
I've yet to see a character who makes me think "that's who I want to play." To put it simply, I find the cast largely lame looking.

>>719202682
I am interested in the game, I'm just not going to pretend it's perfect

>>719203731
There is no "appeal". The character simply wasnt designed to be eye candy for anyone, much like every other female character in this faggot game

>>719209965
Exactly. It’s like people forgot not every character is made to check their personal fetish boxes. Half the roster looks like OCs from a DeviantArt Cold War and you're telling me this one chick not being drawn for you specifically is a problem? Cope harder.

>>719178904 (OP)
Why cant these guys make appealing characters ill never want to play as these how to design a character tutorial looking shits

>>719178904 (OP)
Scared, twink?

>>719210965
>>719209965
>>719203731

The design is made to appeal to people who like the Lucador aesthetic and brawny characters. The decision to portray it as a she was made to appeal to people who enjoy or at least appreciate extreme gender nonconformity. Those who are most annoyed are going to be those who enjoy the former but dislike the latter to some extent.

>>719211691
literally hitler >>700902549

>>719211676
Because it's rivals of aether. This is why workshop will be the best thing for this game. Fans are the only hope of this game ever having a single interesting character

What did you expect? The artist is literally gay. This is another female he drew.

I'm not sure what it is, but all their character designs seem to be missing something. I did like the designs they used in the Dating Sim spoof, so maybe they're more at home with less outright fantasy designs, unless that was a different art team altogether.

>>719212962
did you even bother checking the artists?

>>719199234
Being bad?

>>719178904 (OP)
Pirate needs to kill himself, and you need to kill yourself. after you donate to him and his furry mods

>>719214350
pirate is not part of aether studios and he's not involved with the development of this game

>>719203731
I think it's because of the bug face.
Most muscle girls I see have bodies like that with a woman's face on top.
They just refuse to let them have any semblance of tits, but then you replace the woman's face with a bug head, and now there's nothing left.

>>719214471
the devs are probably at his place right now in their furry suits

>>719214556
I wish that was the case, but sadly, Dan is not a furry

>>719201831
Living the dream.

>>719189857
I'm legit curious if the workshop support is going to get half the attention it did in the first game.
It looks like it'll be simple, but not nearly as simple as copy pasting crap from google into the game and slapping garbage hitboxes on it.

>>719212962
Is that even true? Like, it's pretty rare for artists to have much say on character designs; their superiors, often an art director, tell them what they're going for, and they tell them how to tweak it. The artist's own wishes are often just suggestions unless the entire art team is just one person.

>>719178904 (OP)
She looks sick. Haven't played the game since launch since I didn't enjoy any of the characters beside Loxodont, and even then not that much.

>>719214737
>>719212962


Also, I forgot to add, this is one of Dan's recent artworks. Not sure he's the concept artist for that one, but if he is, he can and does draw female characters that are clearly female.

>>719214716
Though the amount of characters being put out will be lower due to the barrier of entry, the ones that do will receive far more attention. The reason being that normies are excited by official looking HD models moving around, 10x more exciting than some low res sprites. It will dwarf Rivals 1 workshop in terms of sales even though it'll be slower.

Remember the Dio Brando mod for Dragonball FighterZ? That's the sort of thing I'm talking about. Normies eat it up.

>>719214186
..no?

>>719212962
I like Artemis, the bug girl does nothing for me. I can buy Artemis as female, there's nothing feminine at all about the bug
I don't like how Dungeons of Aether redesigned Ayala either, they made her too slim and took away the small bust she originally did have

Can't comprehend the seething at this character's physicality. Its fucking Rivals of Aether, those games already had negative sex appeal on both sides of the spectrum and had character designs which can be considered passable. The argument "why can't anthros have tits" falls flat when there are characters who possess less anthro traits and more animal-like ones like the quadrupedal characters. Idc if the devs decide to go that route in sexualizing any of the chars but it's clear this game isn't gunning for that audience and why even crusade that stuff towards this of all things lol. It's kinda goofy seeing it from afar. I mentioned the designs are passable but this design here look a little more interesting than the average character in this game or in indie games for that matter. Just be glad this game doesn't have humans where the trait of giving every single female A-B cup sized tits would get irritating fast similarly to what you see in western AAA gaming.

>>719178904 (OP)
Please tell me this character is actually next

>>719197293
Have you considered that most people have no interest in having sex with a... cartoon luchadora insect?

>>719217563
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ4u4C3cReI

>>719214716
It'll take time, but consider the following: Smash, a series with no official modding support, still has people modding Melee and Brawl to this day. (And HDR Ultimate).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sEO-vzyUaQ
It's really just a question of how loyal all these modders are to Smash, which is both difficult and mod and difficult to play modded. If even two or three people decide to start modding RoA2 when Workshop support is added, we'll get some good stuff.

>>719194904
I personally look forward to bullying the fuck out of Galvan players

>>719216574
The pornification of the Internet is one of the most mind-numbing things I've ever had to witness. I'm so tired of porn addicts who think that everyone and everything needs to be sexualized, all the time.

>>719218172
I wonder if there is enough of the right type of autism out there to see every smash character get added to RoA2.

>>719178904 (OP)
Oh wait, ROA2 has voice acting?
Skipped.

>>719216512
If you think that lizard is remotely female then I dunno what your problem is. Only slightly feminine thing is the pink, and even then it's more reddish.

>>719218467
>>719216574
>draw a male human body builder and call it an ant female
>people say that's dumb
>OMG WHY IS EVERYONE SO PORNSICK!?!?

Fucking pathetic. No reason they couldn't have made her look more of an ant. They did this on purpose and you aren't fooling anyone.

>>719219568
Touch grass, freak

>>719219591
Go back to xitter, tranny.

>>719219702
I'm straight, white, and actually have sex unlike the losers who obsess over the sex appeal of a fucking cartoon ant. I shan't be going anywhere, nigger.

>>719219568
>They did this on purpose
To what? Attack you?

>>719219836
Yes. This character's design is a personal attack on everything I hold sacred, and I won't rest until everyone knows this flop is developed by fucking trannies.

>>719219836
To be weird gender non-conformists. Give me one reason she couldn't be a cute little ant in luchadore gear.

>>719219808
I'm sure you are, bud. I'm sure you are. That's why you defend the honor of a pozzed game.

>>719219914
Cute and little are not good adjectives you want a luchador to have.

>>719219914
>weird gender non-conformists
That's what eusocial insects are though.

>>719220126
That's why it'd be funny, since the idea is she's got ant level strength.

But let's put that aside. Why do they specifically make her a big hulking male looking body builder?

Something like this would look fine and actually like a fucking ant.

>>719218246
fake news, he can angle his drill now

>>719185338
Reminded me of that one modded character that was a wrestler. Even had a chair gimmick too I'm certain.

>big burly ant lesbian?
>i'm sure to win as my speed is superior

>>719216574
>>719217709

Why are you guys trying to force it into a sex thing? No one is saying she has to look sexy. The simple fact is, people typically prefer female characters to appear at least somewhat feminine. More generally, People often dislike it when what they are seeing doesn't match what they are being told, and don't much care for their impressions to be subverted unless it's an outright improvement.

>>719220324
That doesn't really look as interesting as the actual character though. Like sure it's an ant but the muscles makes it a lot cooler, something like Buzzwole from Pokemon.

>>719220437
Do you get mad that real male birds are often way more colorful/beautiful than females, and sometimes smaller than females too too?

>>719220649
>That doesn't really look as interesting as the actual character though
The actual character looks boring as fuck. It's not even cartoonish like buzzswole, it's just a male body builder with an ant head. Doesn't even have a fucking gaster on her ass.

>>719220778
Why are you jumping into birds now? It's like you guys are doing anything to dance around how the design of this female character just looks like a big buff man with zero feminine characteristics.

>>719221106
Because he knows he's wrong and can't really defend it, so he keeps shifting the goal posts

>>719221106
You’re the one obsessed with how the fictional character looks and how they should look sexy. Why do you even care, this reads to me like you’re borderline obsessed?

>>719220437
people will do anything to defend their furry smash clone, except admit it's made for gay eyes

>>719221106
>>719221193
Because it's the same thing you retards. If you knew anything about ants/insects you'd know making it feminine would be the actual subversion of reality here.

>>719220649
>>719220324

Speaking of Pokémon, Luchadors, and characters with the small but strong thing going on. I'm reminded of one of Pokken's grapplers, Pika Libre.

>>719221313
>If you knew anything about ants/insects you'd know making it feminine would be the actual subversion of reality here.
That's not remotely true, retard. Unless she's supposed to be a queen ant then male ants are bigger than females.

>>719221293
If he at least admitted it's a faggot thing I could at least respect the honesty.

>>719221470
Soldiers are also sterile females.

>>719178904 (OP)
Finally Sena Bryer can quit HER barista job again!

>>719221313
And here we go with the moot realism argument again. We are talking about a six-foot-tall, humanoid bug creature from a fantasy world, built like Mr. Incredible. We subverted reality several steps ago, and it doesn't matter because I could use that same logic to argue she shouldn't be muscular at all, but thin like most actual ants, and that argument would be equally moot.

Once again, it feels like you're doing everything to dance around the point.

>>719221516
Are female ants except the queen are sterile, at least among that type of ant.

>>719185104
Why are you defending yet another dev pushing antiwhite ideology?
They should be shamed over being so retarded and queer. I don't care what ripple effect it has on society, antiwhiteism just needs to be stamped out.

>>719186348
why does renamon have boobs?
why does Krystal?
Why do you suck 1million dicks a day?

>>719221684
So what about role vs silhouette then? They are supposed to be a heavy grappler.

>>719221956
>antiwhite ideology
Now I know you retards are falseflagging. Must be leftypol shit.

>>719222087
You can make her look strong without going straight to the Johnny Bravo build,

>>719222087
Then why couldn't she be a big humanoid ant, then? You've failed to answer that question again and again. Give her a thorax and a gaster and four legs.

this has to be the gayest game ever made

>>719189857
>make a smash clone
>have no items at launch
>no wacky cool stages
How fucking retarded.
>over a fucking year for adventure mode....chapter1. not even the whole thing
>game doesn't even launch with a full complete tutorial
>BUT MUH SKINS MUH WORKSHOP
Jesus fuck indies are just so beyond dog shit these days.
The entire industry is so fucked. The FUCK went wrong?

>200 post thread about le ant
proving she was the right choice. ain't no other contest nominee would generate this much discussion. i think this is proof she has a good design like objectively

>>719191998
>bu...bu...but SHE'S AN ANT DOUGH WHAT???!!!
Nigger kill yourself.
You antiwhite shit eating faggot.
Where's her fucking thorax then?
Why doesn't she have at least 4 arms?!
STOP. MAKING. EXCUSES. FOR. DEVS. BEING. ANTIWHITE

>>719222373
I don't fucking know, why don't you ask the god damn artist? They had no problem putting a literal snake in a mech suit which was also female.

>>719221741
Queens are the only members of the colony that reproduce, and the vast majority of her offspring are sterile females that are raised for specific roles. Nanny ants. Worker ants. Soldier ants. Etc. Males are fertile and usually have wings to fly to other colonies where they promptly mate and die.
There are an absolute fuckton of ant species and it's likely that most are not known to science, but most ants follow the example above. These species all do something different. There are ants that strip trees of their leaves, There are ants that live in trees and protect them from herbivores. There are ants that practice animal husbandry. There are ants that make other ant species their slaves. And most famously there are army ants that eat just about any creature they can kill together.

I for one welcome our new ant luchador.

>>719179160
Heavies are based

>not getting in until like 2027
fug

>>719222734
wdym
olympia is already in the game

>>719222617
Not as total as you may think. There are quite a few different types of ants who don't follow the 'usual' rules.

Case and point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_(ant)

>>719222583
So you have no answer. You should have just admitted that instead of having retarded arguments.

>>719204078
>fishnet stockings that loop/secure around the middle toe
FINALLY some fucking sex around here.

>>719213223
Also, it turns out the artist is different, which is much more obvious now that I'm looking at it again.

>>719212962
>'''''''''''''female''''''''''''''''''
not in a trillion years is that thing a woman.
Don't give a shit to what anyone says.

>>719222814
>instead of having retarded arguments.
Nah, fuck off. We know what real ants are like, if someone bases an animal character on ants it still follows that you should expect that to be used as some form of inspiration. Your retard logic is like saying just because its a fantasy setting, you can have humans that actually look like dolphins.

>>719220424
Well Hornet has an actual weapon so I'm gonna say she sweeps, realistically.

>>719185338
>>719178904 (OP)
>It is a copy of the design of the queen ant from HXH but muscular.
lol

>>719223002
We know what real ants are like, and they don't look like male human body builders. You haven't given me a reason she looks like that compared to literally anything else, because you know that you're full of shit and that they purposefully made her look like that as some kind of dumb gender nonconforming statement.

>>719222481
damn, imagine how objectively good a design it would have been like this then
just picture the threads

Something funny is that this isn't the first time I've seen something like this.

I forgot to save it, but I saw two different cases of a Twitter artist designing bee/ant people, and they also gave the women exaggerated male physiques. The bee one even showed the males, who, of course, were willowy and effeminate.

>>719223073
Why do you so badly want to be the victim?

>>719186348
"Literal animals"- talking about a game with fantasy creatures that dont actually exist in a fantasy world. You illiterate fucking moron. If they were going to make anthro characters and call them women them make them feminine or dont fucking bother.

totally organic thread

>>719223339
its a rivals 2 hate thread. the actual fans just use the threads anyways because no one else creates threads for them

>>719222929
Absa has pretty toned legs for a nerd,

>>719223498
>>719203929

>>719223339
>Down to around 10% in less than a year

That's pretty bad, right?

>>719222581
the hell does being white have to do with this?

>>719223820
it's actually doing perfectly fine, especially for a fighting game. they're making bank on skins and just chugging along. doomposters are retarded.

>>719223749
>>719223498
>>719203929

I mean, he did also make >>719222929 and these designs, so he's fully capable of making feminine designs.

>>719203929
Not really. Gay furries usually are turned off by female characters even if they look male. It turns into disappointment the character isn't a guy.

>>719223749
>>719223995

Honestly, the trans flag in >>719223498 is what comes to mind here. We are talking about a character who doesn't look like their supposed sex, and that crowd loves to co-opt those even if they aren't actually trans.

>>719223953
not sexy enough

>>719223953
pic not related?

>>719223953
>>719224209
It's more feminine than the ant but the shoulders are still bigger than the hips.

>>719222734
Fuck off we're full!

>>719179160
Redditor fags love bigbodies because they barely understand the games they're playing to begin with

>>719223953
Male neck.
Male forearms.
Male hands.
Male legs.
Male.

>>719224151
I think she's pretty cute, head's kinda too big though if you ask me, unless she's supposed to be pretty small.

I think Absa and Maypul look better, though, despite them really pushing Clairen as being the main love interest in the game.

>>719224209
>>719224252
Eh, at this point, the bar for feminine I'm working with is "You can tell this character is female at a glance." Meanwhile, you can give La Reina a good look and never realize she's a woman.

you guys are aware that the ant is a fan character, right?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3137450762

>>719224441
Absa literally look trans.

>>719224479
And?

>>719224441
>Eh, at this point, the bar for feminine I'm working with is "You can tell this character is female at a glance." Meanwhile, you can give La Reina a good look and never realize she's a woman.
While I agree that's a pretty dogshit standard. OG furfags gave us Carmelita Fox and Lola Bunny. This stuff just does not stack up, especially when you can tell the dudes are sexualized.

You're mad at it being a woman
I'm mad at it being a luchadore

Wrestling of all forms is retardslop. But then, so are platform fighters, so I guess it fits.

>>719224479
>even the fans create male looking female characters
I was hoping workshop would save this game. Now I have zero hope.

>>719224441
>>719224435
They really don't look like typical anthros to me. Usually, they are basically human body + animal head and feet, these look more like animal + warped vaguely into human shape. Less Lola more Sonic characters.

>>719224620
Sonic characters are 500x sexier than roa characters. Never compare roa characters to sonic characters ever again.

>>719189378
>>719183685
>>719201512
There's a way to draw women feminine and bulky. And they failed at it. Female muscle is not the same as male muscle. Anyone who tells you otherwise, is uncultured.

>>719224695
I forgot they gave Amy big tits for a while. Rouge would have been a better example.

>>719224737
Amy having tits probably make roa character designers sick to their stomach

>>719224792
All the female sonic characters barring maybe Cream whose supposed to be a kid are noticeably female. Even the flat ones like Blaze.

>>719223953
>>719222929
>Absa and Clairen
Dude's been drawing way too many muscles and not working on his fabric at all.
Motherfucker trying to draw muscle definition through denim like it's spandex, and couldn't even help himself from toning the fuck out of absa's legs like she has ever had a leg day to skip.

>>719224834
that's because sonic characters were designed by heterosexuals

>>719224516
I'm talking about her Lover's design rather than her canon design.

>>719224620
>>719224435
They lean on the more animal side of anthropization, kinda like some Disney characters. You see this in design choices like arms that are around the length and thickness of their legs, and thick necks.

>>719222929
you can literally smell the homosexuality coming off this image. he gave maypul MAN arms and MAN shoulders. this image alone is 10x gayer than full on gay pornography.

>>719224891
see >>719224931

>>719224891
>They lean on the more animal side of anthropization, kinda like some Disney characters
That's still not really an excuse. The furfags of olde could pull it off.

>>719224891
>disney
here's what an actual disney character looks like. there is literally nothing to compare rivals girls to. it is in its own tier of faggotry.

>>719224979
It's not that he can't do it, but that he probably either doesn't want to, or it was decided as not being a thing in the game's art direction. I looked at his art just now and he is way better at drawing guys, and not a single girl I saw had big boobs.

Spanish is not mexican. Thank you for your attention on this matter.

>>719225087
>shoulders wider than hips AGAIN
He totally can't do it. Which is fine for male characters. But you should either have another artist who can draw appealing females or just admit it's a gay furry game.

>>719224849
>>Dude's been drawing way too many muscles and not working on his fabric at all.

Seems he tried to get around this by giving a chunk of the cast skinny jeans, Zetterburn's especially look one moment away from ripping,

>>719225348
it doesn't matter. he simply should never be allowed to draw female characters for roa ever again. his art for female characters is generally an eyesore and 100% stopped at least one person from downloading this game meaning he has done more harm than good for the game.

>>719178904 (OP)
>female character
>100% male proportions, body language
I don't care that it's a cartoon bug, I don't even really care whether it's woke DEI or just a developer thinking they're clever for "subverting expectations" in exactly the same way for the millionth time, I'm just so bored with it

>>719225421
read the thread. the reason the character is like this is because the artist is a gay furry who is literally incapable of drawing the female form

transvestigating anthros cause they’re not sexy enough for you to jack it to is a new low, even for /v/tards

>>719225509
this isn't about jerking off, no one wants to look at ugly characters.

>>719225467
A gay furry incapable of drawing the female form probably isn't just a sexusl attraction thing, it is also undoubtedly an allergy to feminine women on an ideological level, i.e. woke. Progressive communities see femininity (in women) as gross, problematic wrongthink

>>719225574
It's a bug, bugs are fucking ugly no matter what unless you literally make it look extremely unbuglike, like Hollow Knight.

>>719225696
i dont care about the bug. i care about literally every other female character in the game not being feminine or having a body that resembles a female

>>719225467
>>719225693
I went way further back and found some feminine females, but they were paid commissions of other people's characters, not anything he designed.

This is just one obsessed autist, isn't it?

>>719225831
if it helps you sleep at night, yes

>>719225778
So I guess he is capable of it, just not when he's professionally designing/drawing characters for a game

>cant complain on the nolt because you now need to create an account to post
cringe

>>719220778
>pic
me and my dream woman (does not exist)

>>719220778
>you can tell the difference between gender in birds
>you cannot tell the difference between gender in roa characters

>>719225419
Eh, people like Absa's design enough that there's a fairly popular mod putting it into the actual game.

Honestly, the only real issue I have with the female designs is with the shoulders being too pronounced. Though he could also learn that not everyone needs toned legs. Like if a character doesn't have baggy pants, or lacks legs, then he draws their legs like 0% body fat, high muscle definition.

>>719179359
Red = female shoulder length
Green = Male shoulder length

>>719226302
I get the feeling people are just being nice and would never honestly state how they truly feel. This in mind, it doesn't matter what they do. No one will ever say anything.

I think the bug wrestler looks cool, why is /v/ so upset?

>>719226682
This isnt about the bug to me, idc about that. I care about every other character in the game having either a male or a trans body instead of a female one.

>>719226720
Maybe stop being trans then.

>>719226741
????

>>719226760
If you see everyone as trans, that's you projecting.

>>719224479
um well i'm moving my goalposts sooooo

>>719226785
None of the female characters in this game has the body of a female (aside from clairen)

>>719226835
And you don't either tranny.

>>719226682
this thread is genuinely fucking dog shit and filled with people who don't even play the game lol

>>719226840
I can tell you aren't very bright

>>719178904 (OP)
nortubel ahh design looking character

>>719219473
Late reply, I admit I didn't actually look at the concept art posted because I was mobileposting. You're right that the concept doesn't look feminine, I had the character's in-game appearance in my mind when I made that post. Her eyes are clearly feminine in the game

>>719226883
Says the one who is trans.

>>719226841
Why would anyone in their right mind play this faggot game?

i gotta be real i don't really give a fuck because the gameplay is good and i personally find the game fun
>then you're a tranny
nope
>then you're a furry
nope
>then you're a smelee
nope

>>719183685
Ants are cute because they're tiny but can lift things many times their size.

>>719227010
Because they enjoy playing video games?
I know this is a foreign concept to trans people such as yourself.

>>719227010
do you even play video games

>>719223339
But enough about Little Witch N- whoops, wrong thread.

>>719227091
>constantly calls every character trans
>noooooo you're le obsessed

>>719227064
I have 220 hours in rivals 2, I just stopped playing it because I think its awful

>>719225043
I was talking about the body.
Face-wise, they're doing similar things, but Lovers may take it a bit further; female characters have longer lashes, proportionally larger eyes, and thinner and shorter snouts than the male characters. I said this to someone else, but the big issue is the shoulders. >>719226536 You can see it here too; not only does he make them wide, he makes them oddly angular, making them look even wider than they already are.

jesus christ who fucking cares

what is wrong with you faggots lmao

>>719227112
Right, except what I'm saying is based on an actual observation (see: >>719226536 ) and you're just screaming tranny tranny tranny over and over again because you have an IQ of 74

>>719227198
See
>>719227112
You're trans.

>>719227183
I care. I want the character designs to actually look good. If you don't care about that sort of thing that's fine, but I care a lot actually

>>719227239
Tranny still seething.

>>719226675
Well, with the legs, I can see how you might not want to be the guy saying, "Hey, you're putting too much detail in your work, tone it down a bit," even if it's for good reason.

>>719227338
Exactly, no one will ever say anything because they'll be seen as a weird incel. So the game will always have weird male/trans designs on all of the female characters

>>719222481
Yes totally not retarded anon, I am sure Concord also had absolutely amazing designs by how much the entire internet talked about them.

>>719227448
Actually, it seems to have gotten a bit worse, like it seems he posted updated collage designs for the Lover's cast. And from what I'm seeing, the whole "Shoulders too wide and square on females," "Legs too buff in general" is more prevalent.

>>719225348 is an example of this, and if you ask me, Clairen looks more boyish than she did in the older >>719223953 design.

>>719226682
I'm not upset about the bug, I'm annoyed with the general trend, which was brought about by the likes of feminist frequency whining about women looking like women and turning it into a social morality issue
Now it's extremely rare to find female characters who look and act female in western media, and 99% of the time the masculine females are forced and ideologically motivated in addition to simply being bad

>>719226675
This is how progressive ideologues are able to be so influential, everyone is afraid to say "maybe we shouldn't be super woke here", even their bosses
The chilling effect of progressive speech suppression is still being felt. But I think things are slowly getting better

Important to note about La Reina is she won a contest of pure merit. Meaning that yet again it's a woke sjw who manages to actually put together a fun and interesting game (or mod in this case) while the rightwingers do nothing but bitch

>>719227757
If you edited the A cups off of Clairen I would legit not have any reason to think it was female. The fucking body is V shaped.

>>719228473
>take male bug
>make female
super creative and fun, right wingers like myself eternally BTFO

>>719228747
Truly we can never compete.

>>719228747
>ignores that La Reina is a fully complete character with a moveset and animations
Yeah. Not really helping your case. Everything really is skin deep to you people.

>>719229050
ah yeah a right winger could never make a mod or a character with animations

>>719179359
>>719226536
over a billion hours in ms paint

>>719229147
I'll be awaiting your entry for the inevitable RoA2 workshop contest a couple years down the line. Knock 'em dead, champ!

>>719179248
It's a fucking ant bro

>>719229504
Make her hips broader.

Rivals of Reddit

>>719229504
>>719229683
And bigger boobs

Play with the best girl, RIGHT NOW.

>>719229604
Why would I want to make a mod for an inferior smash clone helmed by furfags?

>>719230151
As an ironic flex

>>719230835
I'm not obsessed with forcing my politics on people who don't want them like leftists are
Which relates to the other point I wanted to mention: right wingers, who advocate for keeping politics out of games, are simply making apolitical games

>>719229504
Sexo and saved.

>>719183826
>we want the bara insect audience
That's when you know you're dealing with a passion project.

when is they/them turn?

>>719221956
>ant character in the furry vidya is a female
>average /v/tard : THIS IS WHITE GENOCIDE
Alt right tards are the whiniest demographic by far

I don't know what you guys are talking about but I want to fuck Fleet until she makes retarded fox noises.

>>719222031
There are plenty of digimon with breasts, Renamon is NOT one of them. And no your off model figurine made by a contracted third party is NOT canon.

>>719232801
It's wild how just adding a female character to a game is seen as some grand agenda now. These dudes lose it over pixels in leotards but scream about keeping politics out of games in the same breath. You can't win-either it's not "based" enough or it's woke genocide.

>>719223820
This is the fate of lots of standard fighting games

>>719179248
All worker ants, wasps and bees are female(null).
They do not show the feminine traits of their species until fed queen jelly, at which point they get thicc and become big and soft venus bodied mommies too heavy to move.
(She can do that in retirement but before that she'll be wrestling.)

Males of her species would be tiny, dainty and start dying after cumming once. They would make for spectacularly poor wrestlers.

So if you want an ant wrestler, it makes sense, and it only makes sense, to have her be a worker/warrior caste(no bobs or vagene) strong female. Everything else would be wildly unrealistic.

>>719233824
This isn't a fucking Animal Planet documentary you dumbfuck. It's a fictional anthro ant character literally designed as a male bodybuilder.

>>719234052
Hey, do you want conservative hard gender roles based on factual biology or not? In her species it means women will be doing the "male" bodied wrestling. Simple as.

>>719222929
plapbsa

>>719232875
>retarded fox noises.
I believe the term is "gekker"

>>719235308
Gekkering is more aggressive and for "arguements" I think, give me the laughter-like ones that seem more excitement related.

>>719222031
>why does renamon have boobs?

This thread is so fucking bad
Do you people actually think that women can't have broad shoulders? Broader than their hips?
Just say you don't like it. You don't have to be a retarded pseudoscientist to justify having an opinion