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Anonymous No.719180461 >>719182159 >>719184612 >>719184797 >>719185084 >>719185118 >>719186358 >>719186540 >>719190294 >>719191817 >>719194062 >>719197280 >>719198875 >>719200393 >>719200464 >>719210914
VARLET
Has anyone played pic related? It came out yesterday/today on Steam and as far as I can tell not a soul owns it.
Anonymous No.719180576 >>719180607
...is this a clone of the persona clone of the persona clone?
Anonymous No.719180607 >>719181143
>>719180576
No? I don't know, but if you associated any JRPG with a Persona clone then yes, maybe.
Anonymous No.719181143 >>719184123 >>719201678 >>719203289
>>719180607
i'm trying to imagine the kind of person who cares about varlet without knowing about monark and caligula effect
Anonymous No.719182159 >>719186810
>>719180461 (OP)
Noisypixel gave it 6/10
Anonymous No.719184123
>>719181143
I only know about Varlet because of Caligula Effect desu
Anonymous No.719184612 >>719186810
>>719180461 (OP)
>6/10 noisy pixel
>4/10 rpg site
Anonymous No.719184710 >>719187839 >>719190315
I just hope the writing is good
Anonymous No.719184797 >>719185491
>>719180461 (OP)
no, too unknown when my experience with furyu is limited to alliance alive. I'll play caligula effect or crymachina the next time I touch anything influenced by them.
Anonymous No.719185084 >>719186668 >>719190491
>>719180461 (OP)
https://youtu.be/d1UO5I0h6nc?si=bwqARyC0c-WzoT7H
Anonymous No.719185118
>>719180461 (OP)
no one can own it, unless it has a physical release.
Anonymous No.719185491 >>719186943
>>719184797
Caligula Effect 1 is mid but Caligula Effect 2 is one of my favorite jrpg. So just be aware of that. I think you'd have more fun playing them in order though, CE2 references CE1 a bit, and as somene who played them in reverse I kind of wish I did play CE1 first
Anonymous No.719186358
>>719180461 (OP)
It looks like generic nu-anime shit and the name doesn't make it sound any more exciting.
Anonymous No.719186540
>>719180461 (OP)
I’ve played about 3 hours. It’s fine so far. Monark is one of my favorite games, so I preordered this one. I just wish Lancarse made this too.
Anonymous No.719186668 >>719186750
>>719185084
This reviewer sounds like a tranny, it's a tranny isn't it?
Anonymous No.719186750
>>719186668
Absolutely trannybroken
Anonymous No.719186810 >>719186882 >>719186885
>>719182159
>>719184612
I’m never listening to a reviewer’s opinion on Furyu again. They’re publishing the only interesting JRPGs lately.
Anonymous No.719186882
>>719186810
I think it's more likely you prefer slop
Anonymous No.719186885
>>719186810
to be fair they did give Caligula Effect 2 a 9.5/10 which is too high
Anonymous No.719186943 >>719187280
>>719185491
I haven't finished the 2nd yet but 1 had a kino story and characters but not very good gameplay.

The battle system was interesting but it was too repeatative and has one of the worst most boring opening levels I've ever seen.
Anonymous No.719187280 >>719191817
>>719186943
2 improves the gameplay a lot, but it still suffers from a lack of enemy variety
maps and sidequests are much better
on the other hand the writing and characters were decisively worse, but it still entertaining
Anonymous No.719187354 >>719188995
Anonymous No.719187730
Anyone else actually excited for this as a fan of Monark? It’s tiresome how little /v/ engages with JRPGs that aren’t FF Megaten, or Trails.
I hope there’s more recurring characters besides Chiyo. I want Kokoro to make an appearance.
Anonymous No.719187839 >>719190006 >>719203691
>>719184710
What the fuck was her problem?
Anonymous No.719188995
>>719187354
Is there romance? I want the tomboy Noa.
Anonymous No.719190006 >>719190315
>>719187839
demons
Anonymous No.719190294 >>719191817
>>719180461 (OP)
I'm not paying full price for Caligula 3
Anonymous No.719190315
>>719184710
>>719190006
Mogged by the yandere mommy loli Yoru
Anonymous No.719190491
>>719185084
Oh shi, I thought it was 4 boys 2 girls from the OP pic,that's a cute girly
Anonymous No.719191817 >>719192040 >>719192048
>>719180461 (OP)
Gonna wait for a bigger sale, why the fuck is it so expensive
>>719187280
>writing
Yeah
>characters
I dunno, I like 2's GHC a lot more than 1's, and the musicians (not counting Kuchinashi/Stock who are on a different plane of existence) are fine but very underutilized, they clearly had some good ideas but instead of writing them into the story like the OD characters they just put everything into that stupid book at the end.
>>719190294
I fucking WISH it was Caligula 3. Looks more like Monark 2.
Anonymous No.719192040
>>719191817
>why the fuck is it so expensive
Because everything has to be at least $60 now. I like it so far, but this is realistically a $40 Vita game. My wallet is wailing in agony.
Anonymous No.719192048
>>719191817
>Stock
Stork* fuck
Anonymous No.719194062
>>719180461 (OP)
The characters don't look too appealing.
Anonymous No.719195820 >>719196781
>55€ for a 20 hours low budget kusoge
Anonymous No.719196781
>>719195820
Furyu games are usually more on the 30-40 hour mark
Anonymous No.719197280 >>719197427
>>719180461 (OP)
That company does not know how to make good games.
Anonymous No.719197397 >>719198662
This is quite literally the opening to Persona 4. Are we going to Junes next?
Anonymous No.719197427 >>719198930
>>719197280
Caligula Effect 2 was good, the issue is they never make sequels anymore
Anonymous No.719198662
>>719197397
Anonymous No.719198753
Anonymous No.719198875
>>719180461 (OP)
furyu sloppa, this one seems even more mediocre than the rest
Anonymous No.719198930
>>719197427
They’re doing half sequels now. There was Crymachina for Crystar, and now this game for Monark.
Anonymous No.719199271
This thread is my rare chance to say that Kokoro is best girl.
Anonymous No.719200393
>>719180461 (OP)
sounds gay
Anonymous No.719200464
>>719180461 (OP)
These games always review terribly so I just read the story online.
Anonymous No.719201678 >>719201781 >>719202216 >>719203882
>>719181143
I unironically liked Monark.
Anonymous No.719201781
>>719201678
I don't believe you
Anonymous No.719202216
>>719201678
Me too. And it’s one of my favorite games.
Anonymous No.719203289 >>719203629 >>719203690 >>719204302
>>719181143
>Monark
>Persona clone
That shit didn't have any dating or calendar mechanics and instead had alignment heroes based off of the sins/virtues. It was also advertised as being made by former SMT people. Why the fuck do people think it was supposed to be a Persona clone?
Anonymous No.719203371 >>719204018
If you know, you know.
Anonymous No.719203629
>>719203289
It'd a JRPG with a school setting so it's Persona :^)
Anonymous No.719203690 >>719203854
>>719203289
Any dark highschool urban fantasy is deemed a Persona ripoff. It’s unfortunately a poisoned genre that can never escape comparison. And people also love to talk about games they’ve never played. And barely anyone played Monark, let alone finished it.
I liked it better than Persona to be honest.
Anonymous No.719203691 >>719204875
>>719187839
An extremely pure love for the man who shaped her and gave her her identity. Honestly, I just felt sad for her when I found out Hugo hated her fucking guts.

Best girl.
Anonymous No.719203854
>>719203690
>I liked it better than Persona to be honest.
Same. JRPGs based off of the Cthulhu Mythos are incredibly rare, let alone ones that manage to turn "going insane when you see an abomination" into a viable gameplay mechanic. I doubt we'll ever see another game like Monark.
Anonymous No.719203882
>>719201678
It had an interesting take on things both plot and gameplay wise. It also showed it's budget unfortunately.
Anonymous No.719204018
>>719203371
Best be nice to her. Her big bro is rather dangerous.
Anonymous No.719204302 >>719205447 >>719205862
>>719203289
Because the story was littered with elements that were just worse done things from P5, even a discount counselor from Royal with almost exactly the same character, and you had to replay the same content with minor differences over and over to get to the only things in the game that weren't (and weren't even any good) which most people didn't do
The only part of this game that really resembled SMT if... which it was supposed to be a successor to at all was the Cromwell stuff (and that was written abysmally). Yog Sothoth being some weird power of friendship shit that you also had to grind endlessly to see all the content for after the credits rolled compounds all these things.
Caligula 2 is really the only one of these games that's been any good up until now
Anonymous No.719204875 >>719205447
>>719203691
>reach Yog
>pussy out at the last minute despite the fact that he will gladly explain the consequences of a wish if simply asked
Hugo did everything wrong and didn't deserve any loyalty.
Anonymous No.719205447 >>719208184
>>719204302
>Cromwell
>written abysmally
I liked Cromwell. If you look at him from an SMT perspective, he's a much more sympathetic take on the typical law hero. He had something he wanted with all his heart, but ultimately, he couldn't bring himself to disrupt the order of the world for it. Obviously, from the game's perspective, what he did was ridiculous and irrational, but I appreciated that they tried their best to portray him as a reasonable man who sacrificed his desires for the sake of what he felt was right. Plus, with the Lovecraft bent, it becomes obvious he was supposed to be a representation of the average Lovecraft protagonist, but placed in a game in which he was the antagonist and you were the corrupting influence he was fighting against.For anyone who's remotely a fan of Lovecraft at all, it was a fantastic twist.

I've loved Caligula since the vita version and fucking hated what the new devs did to its gameplay with OD/2, so I wasn't a fan of Caligula 2.

>>719204875
He was a colossal fuckup, but according to Hugo's diary entries, he was also the first person to reach Tristia, so she latched onto him immediately like a child imprinting on its parent. It's a pretty sad story. They probably could've been happy if he weren't such an autist.
Anonymous No.719205862 >>719206953
>>719204302
NTA, but honestly I thought Persona 5 was boring, drawn out as hell, and really goofy. But I loved this game to the point that I’ve played it more than once, and still think about it to this day. It has a quality to it that most modern JRPGs don’t have. It’s very to the point with its characters, and actually makes its theme feel like something the writers cared about instead of set dressing.
The characters all naturally develop and grow closer to the MC, slowly opening up and revealing themselves, instead of having swift arcs like in P5 where they’re just gag characters for the next 100 hours who repeat the same dialogue over and over and over.
And the game respects your intelligence and doesn’t hold your hand. It actually expects you to figure out how to solve puzzles without yapping at you. And expects you to manage your party members and level them up, as well as figure out how to level them efficiently on your own.
I don’t care about the reviews. I don’t care how low budget it is. It’s an actual interesting game that tried to be something. And that’s more memorable than a streamlined, samey sequel like Persona 5 that shaved off all the edges of the Megaten games before it. It’s oldschool, it’s rough, and that’s really cool to me.
Anonymous No.719206953 >>719207550
>>719205862
This sounds like a stock persona 3 cope post, and it's about as true for this game as it was for that one
Monark is a mindless grindfest that locks into place the second you get your main magic dealer leveled up and trashes all content in the game in general with you barely even needing to move around the map unless it's one of those proximity enemy spawning maps (including, funnily enough, the superboss) and the main characters barely get arcs. Everyone gets one dungeon that barely introduces them, that godawful collective SOL scene right before the Kakeru dungeon that's supposed to make you care about the dead little sister who you get back with time travel anyway, and then a worse one scene version of a Caligula character episode of varying levels of stupid that leads to you teaming up with them, and then one scene right before the end where they actually tell you something about themselves. "Naturally developing" is a longstanding code for "this game is underwritten as fuck and barely anything happens in its runtime" but at least a game as largely mediocre as P3 managed to end on a high note
Anonymous No.719207550
>>719206953
>Persona 3 out of nowhere
I’m not sure what you’re on about at this point, but I can tell you’re very dismissive of this game, and just didn’t care about it. So we’ll leave it at that.
I’ll give you credit for playing it though. I want more people to try this game because I care about it. I believe in its quality.
Anonymous No.719208184 >>719209123
>>719205447
>For anyone who's remotely a fan of Lovecraft at all, it was a fantastic twist
Speak for yourself, nothing about the protagonist's situation as a nonhuman that led to anything that was the least bit interesting or even the least bit Lovecraft. Yog Sothoth was literally in the game too and he was purely a wish granting device for the characters. The individual Monarks that show up for the boss fights and nothing else make for much better monsters in this setting, and the scenes where those were shown off were another thing that really just felt like the devs wanted to write Persona awakenings. I think back to that one scene in Devil Survivor 1 where the glasses kid gets a demon and the entire thing is written like an edgier persona sequence, it's the same kind of pathetic.
Anonymous No.719209123 >>719209291 >>719209408 >>719209415 >>719210372
>>719208184
The Lovecraftian elements tie into the center theme of nihilism. The whole point of the story is that the world is irrational, unfair, and has no inherent meaning until you create it. The protagonist is an aberration of an aberration that shouldn’t exist. But he’s still alive and has feelings, and people he cares about. So what he is doesn’t matter in the end.
Secondarily it’s about egotism, in an almost Randian sort of way but without any politics, and filtered through the lens of understanding others and their unique perspectives (Resonance was called Emapthy in Japanese by the way.) The characters have arcs centered around self worth, and doing what they think is right even if most people think it’s wrong. I think Kokoro is a good example because her whole thing is learning to be more selfish.
This culminates in a twist where you’re fighting against the real hero of the story to force a happy ending for your party, no matter how much it might fuck up the world.
Anonymous No.719209291
>>719209123
*Empathy
Anonymous No.719209408 >>719209685
>>719209123
And then what actually happens in reality in the game they actually made is you get to be human and get Kakeru back and get rid of the distortions with 0 risk to anyone if you grind out the final boss enough times
Anonymous No.719209415 >>719209863
>>719209123
>Resonance was called Emapthy in Japanese by the way
You know, I generally think NISA did an above average job on Monark, comparatively speaking, but some of their localization choices were pretty weird.

I'm mostly mad they changed "Melancholy" to "Woe." Melancholy was actually classified as a sin in the olden days. Woe is divine judgment and the opposite of a sin, so it fucks up Hugo/Tristia's entire symbolism.
Anonymous No.719209685 >>719210249 >>719211919
>>719209408
The phone buzzing in the ending shows they totally let that shit out. And bringing back Kakeru further emboldens the idea of getting your happy ending no matter what. While reviving Sora plays into the theme of empathy.
Anonymous No.719209863
>>719209415
I can see where they were going in that “empathy” sounds a little funny as a skill name. But I don’t get the change to Woe. But it is overall a surprisingly good translation by NISA standards. A few oddities are better than whatever happened to Caligula 2’s script.
Anonymous No.719210249 >>719210820
>>719209685
>The phone buzzing in the ending
You mean that cutscene you get before you ask the lovecraft monster to get rid of the distortions? You can call it whatever you want, but all this game really wants to do is run a generic power fantasy on top of a vaguely If... themed track
Anonymous No.719210372 >>719211273
>>719209123
>The protagonist is an aberration of an aberration that shouldn’t exist.
A little interested in the game this thread is actually for and I've not played this game at all but this sounds absolutely retarded ngl
Is Varlet made by the same people?
Anonymous No.719210820 >>719211420
>>719210249
You ask him to make you human. Fixing the distortions is an option, but you can’t actually choose it. I forget the exact dialogue, but it boils down to the fact that they’ll just come back. And of course their powers cause them so long as they remain pactbearers.
Anonymous No.719210914
>>719180461 (OP)
Its made by FuRyu and I generally dislike their games... and I have tried because they have generally good ideas.
Anonymous No.719211273
>>719210372
I'm not the anon you asked, but why is it absolutely retarded? It's an echo of one of Lovecraft's favorite themes. He loves describing things this way, and the language isn't far off from how he talks about the descendants of the Deep Ones in Shadow over Innsmouth.

Varlet is mostly the same people, but with a different producer and scenario writer. It's not based off of Lovecraft's works like Monark was, so it won't contain themes like that regardless.
Anonymous No.719211420 >>719211580
>>719210820
>I forget the exact dialogue, but it boils down to the fact that they’ll just come back.
Here you go. I wouldn't be surprised if the "glitches" in Varlet are a direct consequence of the protagonist's actions in Monark.
Anonymous No.719211580
>>719211420
I hope the Glitches tie into this somehow. Like maybe the distortions in reality are affecting the virtual world.
Anonymous No.719211919 >>719212102
>>719209685
Kakeru would presumably forget all about his brother's existence, it's kind of sad
Or you can bring Sora back just to find out her husband doesn't know who she is anymore
I love it
Anonymous No.719212102
>>719211919
>Or you can bring Sora back just to find out her husband doesn't know who she is anymore
Reading this gave me depression.
Anonymous No.719212305
I hope Yoru shows up in Varlet. Purely for the fan service. I don’t think it would make much sense for her to actually show up. Maybe as a superboss?