Thread 719186530

love the ulti and ulti2 conches but the pro 2 i tried absolutely sucked dick

>>719186650
Why?

>>719186679
shit ergies, shit dpad, shit trigs

>>719186530 (OP)
Are those supposed to be gamecube colors?

HOLY HECK IS THAT COLORED LIKE THE GAMECUBE CHONGUS
MUST BUY

>>719186530 (OP)
st

who or what is constantly spamming these controller threads with throwaway formats
bots?

>>719186725
You're probably too used to xbox controller clones.

>>719186803
Oh no, a game controller thread on the video game board. It's not eceleb or gacha thread? SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>719186817
I mean I can concede on the trigs but I literally own a PS4 and played it with a first party conch. The ergies on the pro 2 just sucked.

>>719186874
kill yourself niggerlord

buttons too loud

>>719187040
I don't get this complaint. Is everyone a NEET here that is afraid of making any noise?

>>719186530 (OP)
yes it does, and it's pic rel

>>719187182
Maybe if the only games you play are twinstick shooters.

>>719187034
glad none of my threads are on this screencap. at least I put some effort in my threads so they turn out good

>>719187182
>>719187293
Was thinking the other day, how come there aren't more controllers where the buttons are below the sticks, because surprisingly many game actually benefit from this design, because many games you move character + rotate camera, and those are your "main things" you do in the game, which means the sticks should be the "rest positions" on a controller layout for such games, and since you can't "rest" thumbs on sticks on PS style controllers because the sticks are too far away from grips

For years I've been telling people not to buy 8Shitdo here. There are zero reasons to buy one. If you need a normal controller, then buy a PS5 or Xbox one. If you need something for specific use, then look within the communities (no one will suggest 8Shitdo in them). For example, last year someone won the Tekken championship at Evo using a Fighting Commander from Hori.

>>719187713
>If you need a normal controller, then buy a PS5 or Xbox one
I'm still using my ps5 controller from years ago until it breaks, but saying someone should buy a certified, genuine, premium, honest, QC-approved controller from one those shit companies completely invalidates anything you say
my next controller will be a third party one and it might be 8bit

How's the Game Saar Cyclone 2? How's the dpad for 2d games? I like the clicky micro switch buttons
I have an Xbox series x controller but the A button feels weird and I can barely press LB

>>719187876
>my next controller will be a third party one and it might be 8bit
So remember this post of mine when you realize that after 3 months your 8Shitdo seems to be falling apart in your hand. I used to be a consumer of this brand, I used to play "competitively" with their controllers, but I'm not going to try to convince you any more than I already have. Enjoy your e-waste and remember to join me in these threads when you regret your purchase.

>>719187713
8bitdo ultimate 2c and ultimate 2 are some of best controllers ergonomics wise, 10/10 , and because they use either hall effect or TMR, they'll last longer than any of the first party controller. There's literally no reason in modern year to buy any first party controller, when you can have cheap hall effect, tmr or even capacitive (pxn p5 8k) that are all drift free. You literally have to be a shill at this point to be able to recommend first party controllers when chinks got so much better stuff going for them

>>719188204
>So remember this post of mine when you realize that after 3 months your 8Shitdo seems to be falling apart in your hand.
>things that never happened

>>719188237
seeing how he hasn't mentioned anything regarding me calling him out on the first party controllers part, he is definitely a shill

>>719188237
Rumble is still dogshit so I only get first party :^)

I'll never go back from disc d-pad to normal d-pad again

>>719186530 (OP)
>8bitPOOPOO

Why do people keep shilling their chink crap?

>>719186530 (OP)
It's a downgrade from 2

>>719186803
Dead Internet Theory

>>719188626
Saying dead internet theory is dead internet theory.

>>719186530 (OP)
yeah yeah but when the fuck is the Steam Controller 2 already, we've known that it's going to be a thing for like a year or two now

>>719188665
>using the 'saying dead internet theory is dead internet theory' fallacy

>>719188712
>le fallacy
Retards calling everything bots and dead internet theory they don't like are the epitome of dead internet culture. Fuck off you low IQ boomers that can never shut the fuck up about their blackpill shit.

>>719188936
retard meltdown, you love to see it. amazing entertainment

>>719187893
if memory servers right, this one passes the contra test the youtuber gay did, whilst the nova lite or supernova (don't remember which one) did not. So basically for precision platformers or contra-like games, this should be a good controller (along with tarantula pro, which is completely immune), but if your game benefits from having some diagonals, I think the S/X style d-pad might be better (so something like mobapad huben 2 maybe). The gamesir's nova that has s/x doesn't stir me with confidence, because it's not advertised as "high end" controller if memory serves me right, and it might have too loose d-pad compared to other s/x controllers. That's just my own conjecture might be entirely wrong, but ideal would be S/X style d-pad that wont fail contra test (so if you hold down, and rock the down d-pad left and right without pressing left or right arrows, the character wont rise up from prone position)

>>719188550
>randomly see this reaction pic right after seeing konpeto update his fanbox with a Rondo Maria set

>>719186530 (OP)
Soulless design

>>719189005
The discord tranny feels entertained in their perpetual self inflicted humiliation ritual.

>>719188550
It's better than official sony/xbox crap.

>>719187893
It's accurate, given that you're comfortable with how hard you need to press on a mech d-pad for diagonals. It has a lot of pre-travel, so it can feel pretty unique/weird initially, but that's ultimately just a preference quirk. I prefer it to my Dualsense for shmups, platformers, and fightan.

>>719189171
unreal projection
you can stop replying now. I know I will, don't feel like talking to a bot (or a human indistinguishable from a bot)

>>719189098
Let me guess, you love "gaymer aesthetics" oriented controllers?

>>719189327
Ok, I accept your concession.

Someone posted this on my buddy's thread last day. Basically this will be the gimmick that will overtake TMR (which was the gimmick that overtook Hall Effect). The goal is the increase stick precision while maintaining it drift proof

>>719188204
I never used controllers before, didn't want to risk an expensive one so got shitty 20$ speedlink wifi one on promo and it's working fine for a year already. Will get 8bit 2c when it falls apart.

>>719189527
I guess this is to have no drift even when using zero deadzones?

>>719189556
Remember if you're playing on Switch, the 2c needs to be BT version. Wireless ver has slightly springy analog triggers, and BT version is digital trigger (so not a lot of travel). Both pretty cool but wireless almost entirely useless on switch because it needs adapter v2 to work on switch, and screen capture button doesn't work on switch

>>719187713
I like 8bitdo. The Pro 2 was my go-to for a while, and it was able to withstand all kinds of abuse. In the end, the only thing that broke was the USB Type C port (a micro-USB port would've been fine btw) and I consider that a testament to 8bitdo's craftmanship.

I'd recommend their products to any PC gamer, especially people who use emulators a lot or play games that are weird with controllers. The input method switch in the back fixes virtually any compatibility issue you might have.

>>719189734
I'm not sure what you're saying. Don't all these controllers come with a switch where you can change between bluetooth and dongle?

>>719186530 (OP)
>snoy stick placement

>>719189661
Yeah it could be something like that. I don't know how many steps of resolution it has more vs other tech (since there already exists this marketing material for hyping these up), maybe some youtuber will make a comparison video between capacitive vs TMR, hopefully soon

>>719189881
>he never plays retro game or 2D games at all
Epic self own.

>>719189862
Most do, but when it comes 8bitdo and switch compatibility, you always need to buy the bluetooth version from them. I don't think other controller companies jew up in that sense, because the wireless and bluetooth versions also have different color schemes

>ps4 ergonomics
>hall-effect sticks
>$20
I can't believe this thing exists. I challenge any of you faggots to suggest something better. You literally cannot.

>>719190102
if you're talking about t3 lite or teneger lite, the problem is that its not wireless

>>719189881
It's dpad layout makes it suitable for both SNES and PSX/2 emulation. Bretty gud if you ask me!

>>719189881
I like this tiktuber

>>719190158
Not only not wireless but also the cable is low quality and not replaceable, and this in the year 2025.

>>719190158
>>719190367
>wireless
I admit, the fact that it isn't kind of sucks. Also, not being able to lock the auxiliary L4,R4 buttons in place like you could with their Xbone controller is kind of odd.

But it's not a deal breaker when everything else about it is so good. The fact that it's only $20 almost makes it a no-brainer. I have burned through like 5 PS4 controllers because of how shitty their sticks are, and those cost upwards of $60.

Mine arrives on Friday, very excited.

Assuming this is made well, and the d-pad is not prone to accidental diagonals (doesn't fail contra test), are there any actual downsides to a S/X style d-pad?

>>719190189
>playing 2dslop in 2025
just die already, boomer

>>719187034
aiiiieeeeeee are those controllers that *gulp* aren't first party????

>>719190367
>cable is low quality and not replaceable
Buy a bag of female USB-C ports and a soldering iron, they're very easy to retrofit with a replaceable cable

>>719186530 (OP)
Tell me when it can wake the Switch 2 remotely

>>719190838
I'm a PC chad so I don't care.

>>719190367
>not replaceable
Holy shit kek, you're right. I've been using mine for weeks and I didn't even realize that the wire was attached to the controller.

>>719186530 (OP)
No speakers, haptic feedback and adaptive triggers

>>719187182
I absolutely hate this fucking controller.

>>719190838
You can use some other controller as a remote for that (some third party controllers already can do it, according to a youtuber). Basically you keep that particular controller (or the switch pro 2 if you have one) for remote. Or if you play on PC setup (switch is on your 4th monitor or something) then you don't need remote cause the switch 2 dock is at arm's length from you

>>719190972
At least remove the speakers bit to not make the bait too obvious.

>>719190972
I turned the triggers off almost instantly when I got a PS5 and a Dualsense. Power hungry dogshit feature on a controller that already has a weak battery, I got tired of opening doors and using guns fighting back at me.

>>719191029
How practical and cheap

>>719191003
I love it
it works well for almost every game I play

>>719191003
what issues does its design have? outwardly it looks pretty good, other than the weird gay shape for the grips. It even got the right idea with 3 center buttons (well now we have capture button also, but this is the proto version before screen capturing existed, so it was good design)

>>719187182
I wish it could just connect over usb. Its annoying that it only works with blue tooth.

>>719191128
I was keeping my s. pro 2 controller on my pc table for occasions when I get extra lazy and don't want to wake my switch 2 "manually", but seeing as I now have 4-5 different 3rd party controllers rotating around me, I just put the switch pro 2 controller in the closet where it truly belongs (only thing it has going for itself are the sliding sticks)

>>719191147
The few times that I used one I couldn't stand it. Everything about it feels backwards and awkward. I'm used to the symmetrical layout on Sony controllers and never cared much for the asymmetrical layout of the 360 one that people seem to love so much. The Wii-U Pro controller is like that layout, but even worse.

I liked the DS4 when it was working but this controller is immense shit quality and the battery only lasted for a few hours. With my current xbox series x controller I have only a slight sticky facebutton problem. Switch Pro controller has drift in wireless mode. I think I'm going to try a third party controller, these official controllers are all dogshit.

>>719186530 (OP)
Ultimate ones are much better

>>719191369
>The Wii-U Pro controller is like that layout, but even worse.
You mean it's even better? :^)

on paper if game relies heavily on character movement and turning camera (twin stick), then having the sticks closer to the grips (like I think they're on wii u pro) should be more comfortable design

I want this controller but I want it without the modular gimmick because it's worthless for me so it feels like I'm paying an extra $70 for a feature I don't need.

>>719191506
I hate that when I play bloodborne, if I place my controller on any surface that isn't perfectly flat, it activates one of the triggers which makes me waste ammo.

>>719191506
gamesaar tegenaria lite is $20 and feels very close to a DS4

>>719187182
I remember playing Dark Souls with this controller and how much more comfortable it was having the camera stick in that position. You have your thumb on that stick 90% of the time, so it makes sense.
I just wish it had analog triggers.

This seems like a good thread to ask. Is there any good usb N64 controllers? Playing stuff like OOT and MM and Mario 64 with a PlayStation controller feels off to me. I'd rather just use a copy cat of the N64 controller.

We need more posts like this

>>719191563
>on paper
Yeah, like how people seem to think the Xbox layout is more ergonomic because "on paper" it seems to make sense.

For games that use the L3 button, it's a bad idea because you end up accidentally pressing L3 a lot while operating the analog stick. The way the symmetrical layout of the PS4 controller works, you don't need to place your thumb directly on top of the nub in order to control movement, you mostly angle it towards the edge, which results in less unwanted input errors.

Or at least that's how it is for me, anyway. I'm sure it's entirely dependent on what any given individual is used to. The idea of an objectively optimal controller is nonsense.

>>719191863
absolute best you can do is the switch online N64 controller
failing that get an 8bitdo mod kit for an original N64 controller and convert it to a wireless one
XYAB has analog stick replacements that feel like the original, or kitsch-bent has replacement parts for the OEM stick assembly

>>719191863
The gamecube controller is really great for N64 games. Before buying a dogshit N64 controller that only works well for N64 games I would see if this could be an option for you.

Any reccs for a 360 controller?

>>719191979
>The idea of an objectively optimal controller is nonsense.
I think for certain games certain designs work better than others

>>719192097
Gamesaaar Cyclone 2

>>719192098
the world ends with you is one of the big ones, uses every bit of hardware on the DS and NEEDS a resistive (NOT capacitive) touch screen to feel good

>>719186530 (OP)
This is just a classic wii controller with handles

>>719191594
Would this work for you

8BitsofDooDoo was never good

>>719192374
it's a SNES controller with sticks and handles
as in, like, literally, they got their start making DIY motherboard replacements and clones of NES and SNES controllers, even got a C&D for making SN30 Pro controllers with complete design copies of US and JP SNES controllers

>>719192452
I mean the tarantula pro does the button layout switching gimmick better than pro 3 since it also changes the functionality

>>719192098
Yeah, you can probably make that argument. For example, I agree with >>719191863 that using anything besides and N64 controller for something like Mario64 seems like it'd actually make playing the game feel worse. But that game and controller were both designed with each other in mind, so it makes sense that you'd have an inferior experience doing it any other way. Kind of how like you'd obviously rather not play a lightgun game or a rhythm/dancing game with a controller, even though technically you can.

Ultimately, what works best is entirely dependent on the user's preferences and their own "handling quirks", if you will.

>>719192451
>I don't want to spend extra for modular faggotry
>posts another controller with modular faggotry
something about sharp tools in a shed

>>719192568
I thought you just wanted it to be easily changeable so you don't need to remove anything. I don't have a shed or workshop, not even factorio

>>719192563
The N64 controller is complete dogshit. Using a generic controller feels much better for N64 games.

>>719192018
Well I have several gamecube controllers and I have the thing that lets me use them with usb. But I'd still rather just get an n64 controller for n64 games. It cant be that expensive. surely there is a 3rd party copy cat n64 controller that I can get that just plugs into pc

>>719192710
Eh, I like it. Especially for SM64. I played OoT and MM on a GCN controller and it was fine. I like the N64 controller, though.

>>719192819
15 years ago I played the Zelda Collector's Edition on Gamecube which had ports of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. At the time I still had regularly my N64 connected. God damn the game felt so much better with the Gamecube controller.

I don't think anyone could make an objective argument why the N64 controller is supposed to feel better. A lot of retro controllers are just plain garbage. The Dualshock 1 comes immediately to mind.

>>719193171
What's wrong with the DS1? I had one for Ape Escape, but I don't remember there being anything shit about it when compared to the DS2.

>>719193659
It has awful ergonomics. It doesn't press into the hand but just leaves an awful gap, making it really uncomfortable to grab. It's hands down the most uncomfortable controller I ever used in my life. Here is a comparison picture with the dualshock 2.

>>719193856
That first one isn't a DS1, it's just a standard PS1 controller.

>>719193978
Yeah then I mean the original PS1 controller, my bad.

>>719192563
I'm glad you brought up the n64 controller, because the other day I was thinking what a new take on n64 controller would look like. Picrel is what I'd call a Nu64 controller, should be perfect for speedrunning goldeneye and other games, I think. If you want gates on the analog stick, that's allright, too , but the starting point is that the stick is either TMR or capacitive, so it'll never go bad

>>719192537
How is the D pad?

I need the n64 controller for muscle memory. I can play all of the songs in oot and mm by muscle memory feel on an n64 controller despite not playing either game in years. But I cant play the songs on a gamecube controller.

>>719194570
It's immune to accidental diagonals, this has the most foolproof d-pad against the contra test, it's like immune to it or something.

Buy an ad faggots

>>719194581
This encapsulates the autism pretty well for hardware fags. They always need something because of a minor inconvenience.

>>719194860
Trust me, it's better to be hardware fag than software fag. Hardware is something that will always exist in physical space

>>719195016
Until the universe ends and all atoms are destroyed. Then what will you have?

>>719192537
Does it not have the PSX symbols? Seems like a waste of functionality.

>>719195848
only letters sadly

>>719189757
I’ve been using 8BitDo as my main PC controller for three years with no issues, great compatibility and perfect size for my hands

Pro 3 has some really gay triggers, ultimate 2 triggers are all better, I don't think I have any controller which has quite as questionable triggers as pro 3 . Also I think the other anon was right, buttons being flat is kind of silly, I prefer the face buttons on ultimate. I also don't know if it's because the sticks are long away from d-pads/facebuttons, or if it's because they're at lower height than most other controllers, but the sticks on pro 3 feel way too small, it's annoying. I think 8bitdo should've worked on the design more , come up with some way to bring the sticks closer to d-pad and facebuttons, then the ergo would be more relaxed when using sticks.. I think there's problems with stick comfort because the controller is either too wide, or the grip are angled too much "outwards", it pushes to your palm if you want to hold it in a way where thumbs could relax on sticks (shape of grip does that).

>>719188550
>Has Hall Effect Joysticks and will easily replace them with TMR meaning no drift
>Works on PC as a great 3rd party controller for Steam, Emulators
>Great Face Buttons
>Grip is not annoying like the Xbox Controller
>Great value for the price vs 1st party controllers
Honestly it's just solid overall. It makes me wish 8BitDo made a Pro 3 version of the Steam Controller version with SteamInput much like Hori did with the Commander Controller. It would sell like hotcakes.

>>719196607
I agree, as have I. Literally was playing Hot Shots Tennis Get A Grip on PPPSPP with Pro 2 and had zero issues. Played Pikmin 3 on an emulator and had zero issues. I even played fighting games with it on Steam. Zero issues.

>>719197701
Why would ordinary games have issues to begin with?

>>719198165
I do not know but there are people here who seem to think 8Bitdo is bad quality because they hate it. It's odd.

>>719198398
I think it's just one bad experience and now they hate it for life for some reason. But for the official controllers they can fuck up endlessly and people forgive them over and over.

>>719186530 (OP)
It does not look as ergonomic or comfortable as the GameSir G7 Pro thou.

>>719198621
Forever out of stock

>>719194570
bad, microswitch mouse clicks with a huge amount of distance between each switch
bad enough they shelved the entire line to reintroduce a "worse" version of it coming up in a charizard orange that has a rubber d-pad and no button switching

>>719186752
>control stick not on top left
>perfect
bait

>>719188936
lol, a bot imitating an angry "regular poster"

>>719198514
Agreed, on my Switch Joycons I had drift and I used Hori Split Pad Pro and had zero issues. Had drift on my PS5 Controller and even surprisingly my Xbox 360 and decided to go to 8Bitdo and it's worked out so far.

>>719188607
Literal Perfection

>>719197701
>>719198165
I'm speaking only for myself, but one problem I have with 8bitdo is the product lineup, like if you want their controller to work on switch it specifically needs to be a bluetooth controller. I remember buying 2c wireless long ago for PC, and I don't remember what occasion it was, probably for switch pro for remake 2 on pc I even had v1 adapter which I had bought prior to 2c wireless.. so one day I decide hey you know what, what if I wanna use 2c wireless for switch... oh the v1 adapter I bought at some point doesn't work, so I buy a v2 adapter? "yes sar". Ok I buy the v2 adapter like the sucker I am, and fair enough now it works, but screen capture button doesn't.

Basically there's no reason for there to be 2-3 different lineups of controllers, when almost everyone universally have controllers that work on all platforms they intend to controller to work, gamesir doesn't make separate versions of their controllers that work with platform A/B, but then doesn't work with C or whatever. Entire fucking 8bitdo lineup is split into bluetooth vs wireless, go look their website, there's like 3-4 different line-ups of controllers, and if you accidentally happen to buy the wrong one (a mistake I've seen even some youtubers make), you'll have to buy an adapter for it to work, and you still lose some functionality. It's not like they could make 1 controller that works on all platforms, right? No of course not, they'd make far less money that way, it'd be less confusing and people would less likely buy same controller twice. Like what the fuck are these adapters, why is there 2 fucking versions of adapters out there, like shouldn't controllers all come with adapters why are you also selling separate adapters, is it beucase this how you make money when people make mistake purchases, or what's the deal here? Som systms don't evn ned adapter, work on bluetooth, so there's no fucking reason they can't update 2c wireless fw to make switch compatible, greed

sir i have been using 8bitdo controller very good sir absolutely no issues must buy now! here coming in mail tomorrow so excited!

>>719199237
50 pesos have been deposited to your account

8bitduh and Gamesaar have played long enough. Soon, it will be the return of the value king.

>>719199605
>But I won't say who that is.

>>719198621
It looks good, but do the diagonals on this d-pad actually work? It looks kinda weird I'm unsure if this is 8 or 4 button d-pad, but the controller design overall looks very comfy

>>719199173
They seem to do a lot of updates on the same generation of controllers which I agree is annoying. It probably stems from 8bitdos roots as a kind of homebrew DIY controller parts seller.

>>719199719
GuliKit

>>719199605
These look very interesting, but do they actually work well?

>>719199728
It's supposed to be better than Cyclone 2 dpad. Also you can change the dpad to various options the controller comes with.

>>719199816
I mean the designs/gimmicks, do they work well

I bought the wukong controller since I had some bezos bucks to burn on amazon. Not bad for a controller under 20 bucks.

>>719199824
Ok, I'm all in for swappable d-pad stuff.

>>719199965
Keep in mind dpad is by far the most subjective part of any controller. Just the contra test is not enough, a dpad can easily feel like shit if one is used to a certain style.

>>719199816
They will be released in October, so we have to wait and see.
They have TMR joysticks with adjustable tension and height options, two D-pad options, HD rumble, four swappable rear paddles, gyro, and swappable ABXY keycaps and hall effect triggers. The Pro is $49.99 and the MAX $69.99.

No one is using the meme backpedals.

>>719200049
What is the contra test anyway?

>>719200515
TMR is so 2024 tho, this year should be all about capacitive sticks.. like if some literal who brands are now starting to do it, then certainly more well known brands should start do it as well

>>719189903
>Go to Bestbuy
>Walk up confidently to the manager of the videogame department
>"Yeah, uh, hi, I'm looking for the controller with the revolutionary 8k chip in it? The one with the Möbius Haptic Loop?"
>He brings me to the Logitech section and tells me the F310 is right up my alley
>Turn 360 degrees and walk out of the store

>>719200605
It's to test if the diagonals register as pure diagonals or as diagonals + some frames left or right. Contra is heavily sensitive game to that particular thing so you can immediately tell from how the character moves if the diagonals are pure or sweep into left and right for a few frames even if just pressing diagonals.

The thing is that for some games you want the diagonals to be less strict like for fighting games because you then can do more fluid motions. But I believe outside of fighting games accurate diagonals should be pretty much always better.

>>719186530 (OP)
I don't use chinkware sorry

Saar where is the controller

image capped from https://www.hlplanet.com/capacitive-joysticks/

list on >>719189527 has cheaper options

>>719201058
So you use no video game hardware at all.

>>719198621
This looks like it would be nasty after a week

>>719201126
is it the rubber or the white color

I saw webp in the filename and started having a panic attack.

>>719201208
Why?

>>719199728
I comes with two more opotions of dpad caps.

>>719192537
How are the buttons and dpad?

>>719200968
They'll show you this

>>719199605
>xbox design with psx layout
Why did I never think of this?

>>719197452
Here come the shills

>>719201197
Yes + texture

>>719201448
i swear i saw someone swap the insides of the 360 and ps3 controller or something back in the day

Huben 2 is much better sorry
Capacitive sticks
Microswitches everywhere, but soft ones
Zero input lag wirelessly
Gyro is also lagless
I'm done with 8bitdont

>>719201567
>generic xbox layout
Ok, didn't ask.

Wake me up when they start making controllers with those fins below the triggers.
Modern controllers are flat. Makes me feel like you gotta death grip em to not slide off your hands.

>>719201631
If you can't adapt you are a baby

>>719200968
>didn't mention that you needed it to play couch co-op with your husband
Fake story/10

>>719201681
I already have 3 controllers like that. I need a good retro controller, not another controller where a million good ones exist.

>>719201660
it's kinda crazy how everyone just started copying the switch pro controller shape all of a sudden and never looked back

>>719197452
But 8bitdo already has steam input now on the pro 3, the pro 2, and the ultimate 2? It literally just works and I can finally use gyro without having to be in the nasty switch mode.

>>719201567
It looks like it could be good, but this manufacturer or look doesn't stir confidence. I want some with buttons that aren't clicky, and don't look transparrent or whatever. Ultimate 2 has great facebuttons , something like that is much more my alley. I want capacitive sticks (and that s/x d-pad) but it needs to look slightly less "cheap"

>>719201807
But it's only on bluetooh, not dongle.

>>719201805
maybe because it's actually pretty good design. Some models have better triggers than others, gotta buy a model that has good triggers (Ultimate 2, not Pro 3)

>>719201982
yeah maybe, but the entire industry just transitioned to this one flatter style after decades of ergonomic curves
a little variety in terms of shape would be nice

>>719186803
It's trending on /v/ ;)

Guys the PXN P5 8K is the controller to get we buy these now and gather the data on capacitive sticks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDfG5l88YQA

>>719188607
Damn I can smell it

>>719202442
Just going to wait a year. Not going to be an early adopter for fucking controllers. Even a basic xbox pad will do the job just fine if push comes to shove.

>>719202572
just watched this guy's tests on 3 controllers
gamesir supernova (hall effect) gets 184 steps of stick resolution
gamesir cyclone 2 (tmr) gets 1132 steps of stick resolution
on the capacitive stick of pxn p5 8k , the sticks get 3087 steps of resolution

>>719203336
Ok, time to improve the other aspects of the controller. Stick is a goddamn meme at this point.

>>719186530 (OP)
looks wireless. That makes it ghetto ass trash.

>>719204104
All wireless controllers can be used wired, you goddamn faggot.

>>719204198
this but unironically

It's weird tarantula pro is so different to hold than pro 3. Grips on Tar Pro have better shape, and sticks are little bit taller. Somehow it manages to be slightly more comfortable than pro 3 with those two things alone. The grip shape of tarantula pro is much more "smoother", whilst when you look pro 3 grip from side, it has more pronounced, almost "aggressive" angle, which makes it little bit less comfortable to use. It's not quite as bad Switch Pro 2 grips, but it certainly feels like it could've been "inspired" by it, which is not a good thing imo.

and the face buttons. The face buttons on tar pro are night and day to pro 3...

>>719205632
If only gamesir controllers didn't all have the 12 year old gaymer aesthetic. I hate how they look but like the features.

>>719201807
What I am saying is to have 4 extra buttons, 2 for the front, and 2 for the back to customize and button map. I really like that feature on the HORIPAD Wireless Steam Controller. The only issue is it's just not the best build quality and the cable is just slightly below average.

>>719199173
It is an issue. I think this is why they perhaps need to make two different lines. an ULTIMATE line with Wireless + Bluetooth + USB connection and their normal line with just USB connection.

>>719206338
Stop it, get some health.

>>719206156
what you mean? I think Tarantula Pro looks pretty good/mature or something, it has that PS4 controller look almost completely nailed. Maybe their other controllers aren't all "auto-winners" but tar pro is very strong

>>719206489
They were fun to install

>>719206513
I just want a plain color and no RGB since I'm a heterosexual male. That's all I'm asking.

>>719206547
you are fake

>Remember to flag and report 8bitdoodoo shills

>>719206664
I don't know if tar pro even had rgb, or if I somehow turned them off. I don't generally like RGB on stuff, but when it comes to controllers I've found having one is generally better (since you can turn it off) than not having it. Pro 3 has no RGB (which is a bummer imo), whilst 8bitdo Ultimate 2 has one of the better ones I've seen.

>>719186530 (OP)
Where is the turbo? We want the turbo

>>719206998
I don't even know who this controller is made for. Is there some tryhard audience out there that craves their controllers designed in such masochistic fashion, that it's uncomfortable to use? There many things "retarded" in this controller's design, when they could've just designed a controller that's easy and comfy to use.

>>719206360
You can literally do that with the 4 back buttons on the 8bitdo controllers if you have it in steam input mode you retard. It shows up just like your gay poorly built horipad.

Tar pro vs Pro 3 ..

Tar pro has better triggers, EASY
better face buttons.. EASY
better sticks, because they're taller, they don't feel small like they do on Pro 3
Tar pro is more comfortable to use due to better grips
The start, select, home and screen capture buttons are all in sensible location, middle of the controller, easier to hit than on Pro 3 (which is weird thing to fuck up, when Ultimate 2 got this oh so right)

I guess the one area where Pro 3 wins over Tar Pro, is that Tar Pro requires slightly different shape USB-C cable, so you have to use its own cable when you connect it to PC, which is kinda weird.. but literally anything to do with controller overall Tar Pro has pro 3 beaten in so many ways. Maybe the purple color of Pro 3 is kinda cool? Maybe Pro 3 has a d-pad that's easier for intentional diagonals? There aren't many areas where Pro 3 can get Ws

Steam controller 2 with capacitator joysticks and four back paddles (interchangeable with buttons).

>>719207643
I am looking forward to the new tarantula pro desu

>>719186530 (OP)
It is style over substance.

>>719187182
3rd party options for this were quite clever.

>>719208181
I'd be interested if it weren't orange and wired-only

>>719208301
Are they not going to release other colors?

>>719208329
Black camo was the only color for the original release
Orange is the only announced color for the 4000Hz Alps model
White is the only announced color for the Xbox licensed one

>>719208275
What's the name? Friend was looking for something like this

The curse of Tarantula Pro is, once you've tried it, it's hard to find other "good" controllers, because it kinda sets a new standard you try to match with every other purchase afterwards. It's kind of a "halo" product in that way

>>719209025
Ok you can calm down now, shill. Everyone got it.

>>719207427
https://youtu.be/BX47O5EHWoQ?si=-DVEHe92HBRSkiDg
My bad. I just figured this out now it does work work 8bitdo controllers. Turns out I have the Pro 2 it has the extended button options as support. But because it has no extra back buttons or front buttons it will not work. But with Ultimate 2 it will because there is extra buttons support. This is great. I am going to buy the Ultimate 3 soon if it has it ready and buy another as well.

>>719189903
5800ish stick resolution, gamepadla's had hard numbers on it for around half a year now and some reviewers have dug in on it too. The only real mystery is, what's actually inside the stick modules, because even people who did controller teardowns didn't open the stick sensors or housing.

>>719208681
Looks like a NEXiLUX controller.
Model NXL-95228 for the PC/android version.
There is a Wii-U version too, so watch which one you're buying.

>>719209156
It's not shilling, I guess it's "brand loyalty" or something, even though I have only 2 controllers from them, and I'm not even sure if their other controllers are quite as good as Tar Pro.

I can go to geizhals (which is sort of like an amazon style search for products) look for PS style controllers, then filter so it's "switch" compatible. Only products I'm left are 8bitdo Pro, and GameSir's. Maybe some other site has some more (it's missing even some other gamesir models) but basically there really aren't that many great PS style 3rd party controllers, at least not that I'm aware of.

>>719209940
>8Bitdo
Pro 3
Pro 2
Pro+
>Gamesir
Tegenaria Lite
Tarantula Pro, plus upcoming variants
>Gulikit
upcoming TT Pro/TT Max
Elves 2 if you only care about symmetrical, but it's Saturn form factor, not PS
>Fantech (IINE)
Nova Pro (Bastet)
something else I forgot the name of, Shooter III?
>ZD
O+ Excellence (modular, but symmetrical layout has sticks abnormally close together)

That's about it. Third party symmetrical market is scarce enough that (modded) DS4/Dualsense is arguably still the best choice.

>>719186530 (OP)
Here, now it's actually perfect.

Sorry by the terrible spot job, but painting spots is very hard

>>719210326
>adding 4 back buttons to a Dualsense costs as much or more than buying a second controller that comes with hall sticks and potentially back buttons, trigger stops, hall triggers, and/or a better d-pad out of the box
I hate this market

>>719210326
Do you buy this from aliexpress? I can't find most if any of this stuff from europoor online stores. I'm not sure if I wanna order outside EU cause then I'd have to probably pay customs too.

>>719210881
Hopefully back buttons never take hold as a basic controller feature because I truly can't understand people who like this stuff. It feels awful on my S2 Pro controller, it feels awful on my cheapy Switch controller, it feels awful on my Hori Split Pad Pro, and it feels awful on the Xbone Elite controller. It ruins the ergonomics of the controller while making it easy to make an accidental press and all it really helps with is rebind L3/R3 to a button instead of a click. If it had to be its own separate buttons to do something I would hate it even more.

At least the touch pad makes sense for secondary options like menus, but back buttons just have so many downsides for next to no upsides.

>>719211331
Almost everything related to these controllers should be bought from AliExpress, yeah. Their official stores are there, though you should be able to find some official stores on Amazon as well with either free shipping or minor shipping costs making it equal to AliExpress.

>>719211331
Whatever's cheaper between AliExpress or Amazon
Amazon if I have low confidence and expect to return it

https://youtu.be/oqycWSEper0?si=-8MW87Y4fXVa7K1F
Oh wow. 8bitdo Pro 3 Controller does have Steam Input. On Bluetooth and Wired mode. Easily will replace my Horipad with this.

>>719187034
I'd say half are autists who just keep making the same threads everyday and half are 8shitdoodoo shills. You'll never have a thread without them popping up shilling the latest piece of shit controller the week it releases. Happens on /vr/ too.

>>719194387
interesting

>>719211536
The only style I've used so far that's introduced discomfort or gameplay issues is the Vader 3/4 layout, but I could see it happening with S2 Pro/Gamesir style. You can mostly get used to it, but it always has a slightly negative impact on ergonomics and the outer buttons are easy to press if your grip tightens in a tense situation. Granted, I haven't used Elite paddles or the eXtremeRate attachments, and paranoia about the comfort of the latter in addition to the 3rd party controller tier price tag hasn't made me confident in trying it.

I wonder how you'd feel about the IINE Bastet/Fantech Nova Pro style. I didn't like them at first since they weirdly actuate from extending fingers instead of pressing, but there's zero impact on ergonomics and you'd need a pretty specific grip to misfire.

Personally the biggest selling point to back buttons is for games that have reasons to press multiple face buttons at once, or for things that would require claw grip on an asymmetrical layout. There's a decent amount of games where I don't use them at all. I'd much rather have them than switch to keyboard for games that want me to simultaneously move+item or jump+attack.

>>719211549
they got steam input over dinput for pro 2 as well, was a nice surprise

>>719186530 (OP)
I want one but I already have an 8bitdo Ultimate 2 so hard to justify just for an inferior layout for 90% of games, though amazing for indies/2D games. I rented the Pro 2 controller from Amazon for a month to see if I liked it and it is unusable on games that require a stick due to the inferior placement. Maybe I should get one in time for Silksong tho... dunno. Are there superior but cheaper d-pad/buttons up top options for PC that are 2.4Ghz wireless available? Because gamesaar is the only other company with good sticks/buttons/triggers on the market that isn't overpriced (after memiffs it seems gamesaar is the only company that didn't dramatically raise prices, even 8bitdo nearly doubled everything, RIP 25 dollar 8bitdo Ultimate C 2.4Ghz).

For what it is worth I like clicky face buttons and don't mind a more tactile d-pad.

I'm really trying to like it but it feels so fucking cheap for the price, I wish I bought another Switch 2 Pro Controller instead.

>>719213859
You could try going with tarantula pro if you want premium, or if you want to start with slightly cheaper first, go with a white T3S (since if you end up ordering tarantula pro later on, that one will be black)

The thing going against these is that it's not a s/x style d-pad. I want to see s/x style d-pad on PS form factor

>>719214703
>s/x style d-pad on PS form factor
Closest I can think of is ZD O+ Excellence
they don't offer the s/x d-pad exactly, but modularity still allows for a tact circle d-pad on symmetrical layout

>>719202442
>Advertises 8K polling rate
>look closer
>actually 2000Hz polling rate
Should be illegal.

>>719215148
It can be set to 8k, but it defaults to 2k and most models will cap out at 6-7k. iirc there's no merit to setting it above 2k either way, just faster battery drain.

>>719214703
The fuck is an s/x style d-pad? You mean a split d-pad (cursed) like dualshock or a disc d-pad like Xbone?

>>719215356
d-pad that instead of 4 you have 8

>>719215276
>It can be set to 8k, but it defaults to 2k
No? Did you actually look at the product page. It is UP TO 2000Hz polling rate. Just because the dongle can communicate at 8K doesn't mean it is truly 8K. Keyboard manufacturers do this same faggy shit. The dongle is 8K but the inputs are only 1K. Pic related from the website.

>>719215148
Why anybody needs more than 2 milliseconds delay on a fucking controller I will never understand, or a computer mouse too for that matter. Battery zap for imaginary difference.

>>719215449
That is a disc style d-pad yeah, it is still 4-way input (4 input buttons underneath). Just has a disc to make it "easier" to hit diagonals. For me that makes it easier to get false inputs. But I do see how it is nicer for some people. I did like it on the Xbone Pro controller. I wouldn't be opposed to it.

GameSAAR already won the controller war
Do the needful and kindly leave, sir o madam

>>719215674
OutofstockSir

>>719215019
Ideally, I'd want it on a controller that's not shaped like an xbox controller. So something closer to switch pro controller grips, or playstation controller

>>719215568
For MICE it isn't about input delay anon. You should read up on it. It is all about input sync. The more times you poll the more accurate input to game is. At 1K polling rate there is HUGE amount of error for mouse tracking in-game. It just smooths out input and makes your movements do what they are supposed to in game. Check out motionsync. Now 8K polling rate on a mouse that doesn't have a sensor that can support 8K motion sync (or 4k, etc) is 100% useless I agree. The polling rate isn't for clicks, it is for mouse tracking. The issue with input error rates are astronomically higher the lower your DPI on mouse and the lower your framerate. So if you retardedly have to play at 400DPI then you damn well better be playing at 600FPS if you're using a 1K polling rate mouse. 1200/1600 DPI makes 120/240 FPS viable-ish at 1K. But the higher polling rate makes inferior framerate and gimped DPI significantly more accurate.

tl;dr you're wrong, you just don't understand the purpose (for mice) but for controller you're right, no sense in it.

wtf is with the prices of some of these chink game controllers? why are some 120 or more? Flydigi crazy high prices

>>719215592
Something like gamesir cyclone 2 feels like a fraud controller without the disc style d-pad.

>>719215963
Flydigi's Apex lineup is legitimately designed to scam consoomers. Vader and Direwolf are their reasonably priced controllers worth considering.

-st. Only a fool would say something is perfect, every controller has some imperfect aspects to it. Controller space especially is very give and take with many features being locked to specific controller or protocol.

>>719215963
Most of them are fairly priced. Cyclone 2 for like $50 is pretty solid, that Anbernic one for $16 is fine, and keep in mind a lot of these have all the bells and whistles + TMR or Gullikit sticks + gyro + back buttons with support for every system and multiple different input methods for like $50-60.

>>719216312
I'm gonna keep it real with you Anonymous poster

That controller looks like boiling ass

>>719186530 (OP)
So basically the PS controller?

>>719216464
Sort-of, in the sense that it's also a SNES controller with extra shoulders, sticks and handles slapped onto it

Imagine having sticks so high resolution you have to adjust the dampening so the stick aren't too fast.. this marketing writes itself. Caacitive sticks really going to change the landscape once they start becoming more mainstream

If PXN hired a shill after I asked about that controller for months without a response, I'm sorry for ever bringing it up

>>719215835
I know the purpose, I have made games. Maybe you think it is sooo much smoother with 1000hz compared to 500hz but it really isn't. I get what you think the difference is though, so enjoy charging the mouse more, or having a mouse that sleeps (God forbid).

>>719216791
nta but 2ghz on a mouse is pretty good

I only buy controllers with piano wire springs.

>>719216949
Do they sound good?

I wonder what the story is for this. That controller doesn't even have an NFC reader.

>>719191917
What controller is he talking about? I'm in the market for something with a comfy D-pad.

>>719186530 (OP)
It's too square, I prefer more triangular controllers, they allow for a more neutral positioning of the arms.

>>719217562
I'm not 100% sure, but judging from picture that could be vader 4 pro or something, because vader pro 4 seems to have that stick tension ring

>>719186530 (OP)
>PS thumbstick positioning.
The reason modern controllers have the left thumbstick parallel with the face buttons is because the majority of modern games are 3D and use that as the primary input method for movement, allowing for the thumbs to rest in a neutral position, putting the thumbstick below the D-Pad forces the left thumb into an unnatural position for extended periods of time.

>>719188413
Code?

>>719217562
His picrel is Vader 4 Pro, but
>this type of d-pad
probably means he's the s/xfag
It's a pretty difficult design to fuck up, so long as you're comfortable with tactile switch actuation force.

>>719217770
this guy gets it

>>719217829
>probably means he's the s/xfag
what do you mean by that? I don't think that anon has made any posts on this thread if that's what you're worried about.

>>719216395
And yet it's amazing in other regards. See, you get my point.

>>719217770
Why would the resting positions be different for the two hands?
The real reason is for the brain to better differentiate what you control. The upper thumb (left) controls your upper body (aiming) and the lower thumb (right) controls your lower body (moving).

>>719218580
>Why would the resting positions be different for the two hands?
because on ps style controller, the resting position is d-pad, because d-pad used to be more relevant before 3d games became a thing. On my original xbox, I don't think I ever used my d-pad, and it was very rare even on n64

>>719216791
My 8K mouse only has to charge once every 4 or 5 days. But you do you. It is INSANELY obvious the difference it makes when using 60FPS applications like Adobe Photoshop or Illustrate when drawing with a mouse. The difference between a functional human hand and an advanced parkinson's patient.

>>719218698
Oh so that's what you meant

>>719218843
better question would be why are you drawing with a mouse

>>719218843
Every frame the game asks the operating system what mouse position the mouse has. If you have 60 fps the game knows about the mouse around every 16 ms. The other 15 ms doesn't matter so if your mouse reports every 1 ms or every 2 ms doesn't matter. It will ever be exactly 0 or 1 ms late in games.

In windows your desktop programs may get refreshed 1000 times per second if it is programmed to redraw every time the mouse moves, but you don't notice the difference in terms of 1 ms. You only feel it (imagine it). Maybe curves could look smoother depending on the draw program. But the topic was how it matters in games, they look for your mouse position every frame.

DPAD is better for sidescrollers and fighting games, analogue stick is otherwise better for third person. Ideally, you would want your thumbs in the primary positions (you know what I mean). So, you should be playing sidescrollers and fighting games with a PS controller and other third person games with an Xbox controller. However, the Xbox DPAD is so much better the PS controller loses on all fronts despite having a better layout for things you'd want to play using a DPAD.

As for first person games? All controllers are shit.

>>719218843
I have been using drawing tablets for 15 years and this shit never has mattered even with a far more precise tool.

>>719216791
>put a coil on your desk
>mouse charges wirelessly like magic
Whoah

You know you can have two controllers? The amount of faggots suggesting an xbox style pad when people want a dpad in primary position is staggering.

My dualsense edge started drifting but i don't want to buy the stick modules

>>719219628
>i don't want to buy the stick modules
why not

>>719219534
Now the cost of the imaginary benefit is just money instead of time and money!

>>719215835
Search mouse smoothing online and most gamers recommend to turn it off.

>>719215835
>>719220824
Also, mouse smoothing is mostly for old mice to get up to imitate 125 hz. That's right, 125.

The chineseiest thread on /v/

>>719220745
I can't imagine being so poor that wireless charging is enough to emotionally bankrupt you to the point of whining about how much it costs on a korean bbq forum.
I haven't plugged a mouse in for around 8 years now.

>>719221298
I'm trying to tell you you're defending something imaginary. You posted >>719219534 and thought it was clever.

>>719186803
There's a reason
>buy an ad
became a common post

btw if someone is on a fence for good mouse https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/best/claw-grip

get either ninjutsu sora v2 , or scyrox v8 . both weight 40g and are wireless claw grip mouse

>>719216312
yikes

>>719186530 (OP)
>We have been obsessed with the SNES layout for 35 years
It's time to give it a fucking rest. It's good for 2D, but not if you keep fucking it up with additional analog sticks and it's garbage for 3D.
>Aha so asymmetrical Xbox sticks are the way to go
That's still symmetrical. Gyro and flickstick is preferred on handheld, non-VR controllers and you don't need full-size right analog sticks for that.
>But I don't want gyro
If you need to constantly control the camera, then a solid 1/8th (or more realistically 1/6th) of your possible inputs are taken up by an action that isn't fun, isn't effective and which you don't actually need to do in a well designed game.

>>719186530 (OP)
>Playstation stick layout
Discarded.