Thread 719192432

>"muh gaming on PC is expensive! It's muh $500 too much!"

Just buy a quad core optiplex with ddr4
Replace the PSU with a chink $60 flex compact PSU 400W
Install a $40 8GB RX 580 inside after you repaste it and clean it.

Build a gaming PC for ~$150 that plays literally any game pre 2016 at 1080p and any indie game. Also ram speed affecting fps at 2400mhz is negligible.

and then what? play games at 480p 30fps?

Oh and also install linux on it like LXQT on arch linux to get the most performance instead of bloated windows 10.

>>719192432 (OP)
>just spend $200 for an absolute piece of trash

you are RETARDED

>>719192432 (OP)
every house already has a pc just buy a second hand GPU and put that in it

>>719192432 (OP)
>just buy
>just replace
>just install

>>719192547
It can play modern games and this is at very high preset 1080p.

Me personally when I play games I dont turn it to very high I do high/medium mix and I disable all anti aliasing. This alone will boost your FPS already by 20-30 fps.

https://youtu.be/vYg8mxfCQOk

>>719192432 (OP)
If you want a small form factor emulator box for your TV sure. If you are seriously considering this my honest recommendation is you should just buy an Xbox Series S.

but i need more vram to make sloppa

>>719192618
>just spend $200 for an absolute piece of trash
It's not $200 if you use ebay.

As opposed to spending $500 on a shitty ryzen 5600G PC or even worse, building a scam AM5 PC for $800+?

or ask your mom to buy you a steam deck basic model

>>719193002
Steam dick shitter can't even push 35+ fps 99% of the time in elden ring at 800p LMAO.

This can play at 60fps+ stable 1080p high settings, oh and this is cheaper even if you include a 1080p $80 gaming monitor.

does it run monster hunter

>>719193092
Also reminder the steam dick is less powerful than even a pre built n300 mini pc for $250.

Steam dick even struggles at 800p 60fps skyrim special edition at high settings LOL

>>719193219
If you mean the last good monster hunter like mosnter hunter rise before the sloppa wilds, yes. I don't know why someone would want to play monster hunter wilds TAA smeared slop.

>>719193092
>>719193240
why did you get so butthurt after i mentioned the Deck?

lol /v/ poors desperate to pcmr

>>719193812
Because the steam dick is a scam for people that should just buy a laptop

Its useless and impractical and 800p small screens suck. For people traveling they should buy a lenovo legion laptop with some integrated nvidia GPU to play in their beds or hotel rooms at a desk.

For people at home they should buy a reasonably priced machine for their needs, and optiplex meets those. No you do not need a ryzen 9800X3D to play OSRS or indies and all performance problems are related to windows being a fat bloated piece of garbage.

>>719192547
the rx580 plays all relevant games on atleast medium settings

PCMR

Is actually brown turd worlders on office pcs.

>buy junk PC
>spend day on /v/ complaining about games not running well
why do this to yourselves?

>>719192432 (OP)
with just 8gb of ram you are also going to have to buy a 50 or so bucks 16gb kit too, dunno the actual costs because too lazy to look up due to fluctuating ram prices, but still not much
also arguably an rx 5700xt is about the same price as a 580 nowadays while being a tad stronger and not using that much more power

>>719193867
>>719194786
If you can afford a 9800X3D with a 7900XTX and a 1440p OLED that's great.

But 1080p 144hz 110% SRGB $80 monitors are more than enough to match OLED's colors and office PC's with kaby lake generation quad cores still offer gaming performance at 90fps+ in any game that is relevant that's not garbage unoptimized TAA modern woke smeared slop past the year 2021.

You're not smart, you just overpayed.

Also most performance that is wasted with modern PC's is because people use winblows instead of linux with LXQT, Most microshit DX games run better with DXVK vs with directX on windows.

I can play battlebit remastered with 4GB used at 1080p 170fps+ high settings with only 6% of my CPU being used WITH a full desktop running in the background AND firefox open browsing 4chan.

This is the power of linux.

>>719195127
you're clearly not smart if you're that broke you have to buy an old optiplex and add a gpu in order to play a video game

>>719192432 (OP)
If you're American you can afford a decent gaming PC brand new after like 2 weeks of work. literally get a job and stop being poor, for third worlders. please stay away from gaming in general, you're not wanted.

>>719194321
Hard to beat a laptop with a 4060 for mobile gaming. The new ryzen and intel igpus are good too, but you'll nees to pay 1k or more usd to match the mobile 4060 and it will have worse ray tracing

>>719195361
You're not that smart if you spend $2500 on a PC that just sits there lmao.

I am smarter I would rather spend $2300 over the course of two years.

>>719192547
You dont need to play modern rtx movie games in 4k 300 fps

>>719195459
Those lenovo legions are like $550 used and have 100% SRGB with high refresh rates, with much more powerful GPUS and 1080p screens. It's hard to justify a steam deck OLED. Maybe a steam deck but even then the ROG ally Z1 extreme is the same price used than a regular steam deck and has VRR and almost double the perfomance.

>>719195470
He's a consoomer that would call anyone poor for not buying the newest hardware sloppa to run slop in muh 4k
Back in the day we would soiquote him for being a consoomer

>>719195470
>your pc just sits there
what?

Any PC is a gaming PC. Whatever you have to spend you can get something that can play a lot of great classic games, even if it's just an old sandy bridge i5 shitbox you can find for free that's still enough to have a great time on battlefront 2. I have a good machine but mostly play older games anyway.
This is not just for coping about being a poorfag. I have a collection of old pcs I use to set up for lan parties. With each one costing little to nothing, I can host 8v8 game nights and have all the pcs set up and ready to go.

>>719195593
Nah, dont get yourself used gaming laptop. A brand new gaming laptop is already have like 5 years of lifetime, get yourself a used one and you'll cut that lifetime to 2 or 3 years. If its computer part like used gpu its fine though, but if its laptop, then nope, just skip it

>>719195638
Most people using a gaming PC don't use it 24 hours a day. Maybe 13 hours a day at the most. Even worse if you leave it on burning 180W of electricity just sitting there every hour if its a beefy computer. So the value proposition is not great.

You can spend $2300 on food or other needs which is a far better value unless the games you want to play can't be met with a i5 7500 and an rx 580 8gb GPU.

I can't think of a game made in the last 5 years that needs more than this, that is actually good.

Alan woke 2?
Monster hunter wilds slop?
Slop spoken?
Last of us slop 2?

Are these games REALLY worth building an expensive gaming PC for rather than spending $200 for a mid range one and saving your money?

these are the people who are complaining about game optimization btw

>>719196072
I'm sorry I just won't play your game if its TAA smeared woke shit like the resident evil demake or the silent hill demake. Better just to stick to indie games that run at a smooth 144fps and the classics.

>>719196185
you are a jeet that has a $200 PC from 10 years ago, you should shut the fuck up

>>719192432 (OP)
You've got the right idea, anon. However, OEM PSUs are a pain in the ass to deal with unless that specific Optiplex model has a compatible 24-pin adapter available on Amazon or eBay. It's actually best to just keep the OEM PSU inside the case and buying a sata-powered jumper to power on a second ATX PSU to for a beefier GPU.

>>719193448
>it can run rise tho
are you retarded? that game looks like it can run on a tamogachi.
maybe next you'll point out that it can also run nethack, and ascii game from the 80s

>>719196037
oh shit, you're a genuine retard.
>180w electricity
>I need to buy food
>muh value
>no games are worth it
ha ha what a tit

>>719192432 (OP)
>~$150
is this price range specific or do people just complain that consoles and PC's are too expensive in general? If you want to buy for console prices there are definitely builds out there that can get to better than console level performance all while staying in the console price range

>>719196037
>Even worse if you leave it on burning 180W of electricity just sitting there every hour

im just wondering from what 3rd world shithole are you from...

>>719195593
>Maybe a steam deck
the base goydeck has an even weaker set of specs and worse battery life, you're legitimately setting your money on fire if you're buying one

>>719196597
You overpayed doe.

>>719196621
Console price range is too much for locked down shit that can't even do anything else. I will never buy an xbox in my entire life. For the same price of an xbox series S you can get this PC with a 110% 1080p 144hz freesync monitor. I'm sure you could also find a bundle on a logitech keyboard and mouse for $10.

>>719196072
This build could run every good game released within the past 2 years. My i5-3470/RX 580 build was running SH2 Remake at 1080p30 and Diablo 4 at 1080p60. For such an old build, I can't complain.

>>719196690
>t. baby just learned with electric bills are and outed that they still live with mommy.

Grow up.

>>719192763
i have an optiplex with a i5 7500 and a 1660 super
its good for some old games but the cpu bottlenecks the gpu alot
i got it to use until i can fix my 1070 ryzen 1700 pc
which was miles better

>>719196743
you're a real genuine retard

>>719196690
NTA but I'm american and the rates have been jacked up after the AI craze started. That shit eats up so much electricity and people who don't use it end up having to subsidize it

>>719196037
>Even worse if you leave it on burning 180W of electricity just sitting there every hour if its a beefy computer
jfc how poor are you nigga, even in my shitty spic country you'd have to be borderline homeless to not be able to afford that much power consumption

>>719196743
>For the same price of an xbox series S you can get this PC with a 110% 1080p 144hz freesync monitor
I always find the argument of including monitor and other ergonomic hardware being included in the PC price kind of odd. I mean do THAT many people have a TV over a monitor? Do that many people not know you can configure a PC to work as a living room console?

>>719196819
your mouse has a ball in it doesn't it

>>719196819
>>719196873
lol, that 130kWh in a month if you imagine its 180W 24/7
and thats... $13 of electricity
fucking underaged brownoids

>>719196072
If a game looks worse than a PS3 game while asking for a 5070 for 60fps with both framegen and goyscaling I have all the right in the world to whine.
For example MH wilds alone looks worse than MH world while requiring exponentially more power to run, that's the textbook definition of unoptimized slop.

>>719197010
Well regardless you still have to factor in the cost of a sloppa 4K TV so it definitely exceeds $350 if you factor in everything. It's still locked down shit.

Controller is an inferior input method anyways. Mouse and keyboard is superior and 1080p is the only good resolution until 1440p oled becomes sub $150.

Especially since chinese monitors like the pixio have gotten so cheap and offer as good or even better colors than OLED at 1080p, 110% SRGB and 100% P3, and the backlight bleed is minimal and contrast is decent all for $80 on sale.

>>719197193
>Especially since chinese monitors like the pixio have gotten so cheap and offer as good or even better colors than OLED
oh shit, you are a genuine real life retard

>>719197039
13$ that could be spent on food like meat pot roast for almost a whole week for one person. Grow up.

>>719197193
nigga im not poor why that fuck would i torture myself with chink monitors and play on 1080p?

my keyboard costs more than your whore setup

>>719197316
>i have to make the choice between food and electricity
lol

>>719197316
do you live in the favelas?

>>719197304
Nah you just can't read. My OLED phone has around the same saturated colors but as my IPS monitor and I am super autistic about color reproduction. I prefer looking at my monitor for video consumption just for the saturation.

>>719197415
>muh oled phone is the same as an oled monitor
genuine real life retard

>>719197386
>>719197391
>>719197321
Sorry I just dont like throwing away free money for absolutely no reason. This is why you will be poor because you don't know how to manage money.

>>719197536
>poorfag resorts to name calling after being exposed for being unable to afford both electricity and food
Typical.

>>719197039
Ir costs 20ish dollars here. People outside the US pay less for electricity or most things really. They don't make as much. Their infrastructure might even be more efficient by virtue of using new parts. The price for electricity goes up the more stress is put onto the grid. That's just how our crumbling infrastructure is designed.

>>719197536
A PC may consume more power than a Series X at full load, but you can always turn it off. How long are you typically gaming for?

>>719197620
If I give you $1000 and you spend it in 3 days you aren't smart. That's called being poor and dumb LOL.

>>719197672
30ish*

so many consoooomers in the thread. i will never spend more than 200 dollars on a gaming device lol

enjoy getting scammed by njudea and amgreed

>>719197672
???

>>719193092
did your mom say no

>>719197856
That's the average. It's 30 cents where I live

>>719192583
>linux users always try to emulate windows UI
>trannies always try to emulate women
it all makes sense now

>>719197856
It's 18 cents where I live in my particular town and state but I think thats just the local energy company being greedy.

Its not uniform across the US

>>719196037
Electric bills have a baseline regardless of usage here idk where you are

>>719197536
i manage my money just fine

>>719198012
National average is 20cents according to some websites. That shit adds up fast either way

>>719192432 (OP)
Don't ever skimp on PSU, it can fry everything else in your computer

>>719192583
Which WM that LXQt is currently using?
Last time I tried they used openbox which is fucking broken.

>>719198321
I dont think the stakes are high to begin with. Chinks use brand new PSU's from china random brand all the time in their gaming PC's and they have them running in gaming cafe's 24/7.

I think its fine they are all made the same way.

>>719198618
It's a complex topic, and jewtube ecelebs love blowing it out of proportion to shill the PSU brands sponsoring them (like linus goy tips with seasonic) but there is in fact some risk involved.
That said the risks are mostly about overloading the PSU by charging too much voltage on a single rail, the actual voltage it says is largely irrelevant, you have to look at the rails, because if the GPU cable says it's only going to feed 100w for something basic and you try run a rx 580 or basically any modern GPU you are gonna blow it up, but if it says it can handle 200w just fine then go ahead and you will likely have no issues.
Yes you can also fuck up the CPU rail but that's only likely with the recent self-frying intel CPUs, the average cheapo ryzen or 7000 and earlier intel cpu is barely going to slurp half of what a 4-pin CPU cable is rated for.
Mind you this can still happen with "trusted brand" PSUs too, corsair for example still has issues with dogshit GPU rails.

>>719192432 (OP)
People want fresh experiences and to play what others are playing at the same time so they can talk about it with them. Same reason you are posting this thread and not just browsing the archive from years ago. Decade old games being cheap is irrelevant to what people are talking about when they say pc is expensive.

>>719192432 (OP)
The SFF models require low profile (half height) GPUs. And it's actually worse than that, because the 16x slot is the second slot not the first- so you either need a single-slot low-profile card (there's like one good one, and it's impossible to find) in slot 2, or use slot 1 and therefore run the card at 4x. Or indeed 1x, if you have a 3xxx series optiplex.

After researching all that in the hope of achieving budget SFF, I decided it's not worth it. I don't think the ITX tax is worth it either.
Conclusion: Either buy a chinese Ryzen minipc if you can make do with a 780m iGPU, or build a normal microATX rig.

>>719198038
nice speccy m8

>>719199479
Tell me what actual good games exist in 2025 though

battlefield 6 slop? silent hill demakes?

>>719199597
Riser cable and mount the GPU or lay it down in an interesting wa

>>719199835
well i played these on my PC from this year and i enjoyed them:
Expedition 33
Oblivion Remaster
New Hitman levels
KCD 2

>>719199991
Considered that. Ventilation becomes a concern since it can't vent straight out the back anymore. A few people seem to drill some holes in the case or just leave the cover off. For video out, you'd need to either get special extensions cables+backplates or just run display cables through an empty hole straight to the GPU.
With that, plus the need for the riser and either a PSU upgrade or a 75W GPU... the value just didn't seem to be there.