Thread 719194564

>best first melee combat ever made
>no one ever tried to recreate it
Why is it so hard?

>>719194564 (OP)
>best first person* melee combat

>>719194564 (OP)
the game wasnt that popular

>>719194564 (OP)
OP you will get your successor soon.. out of an Bavarian studio have patience Bruder

>>719196738
Didn't reviewers hate it too? Back when people still cared about reviews.

>>719194564 (OP)
>best first person melee combat ever made
>literally playing as a Rockettes dancer
>meanwhile, Breakdown actually had good first person melee combat in 2004

>>719194564 (OP)
must be hard to make first-person animations feel weighty and like they have impact.

>Sir Boots Kickington in: the Land of Precariously Placed Spike Walls
Time to boot some orcs.

>>719194564 (OP)
Avowed was different but supper fun. Played magic tho.

>>719198409
>played gay game
>played gay style
Checks out.

>>719194564 (OP)
Because third melee combat is better fag.
>all these posts about kicking
I remember the game more for oil traps/hit and run maneuvers. The ice spell was way funnier than kicking every could be: watching them slide was hilarious.
As for your question, probably cause it didn't sold well. It's a cult classic.

>Sorceress
>Monomyth
>Alkahest
The day of Dark Messiahlikes is upon us

>>719198490
Kicking is the optimal way to play. Playing a suboptimal style is pointless. It's like storming Normandy with a pocket knife. If you survive, you get no points. Nobody respects you. You just did it wrong and God (Jesus, who lived in Missouri) loves a fool.

>>719198724
>Monomyth
no way this one plays as good as Dark Messiah, felt more like an even janjier King's Field IV back when I tried it

>>719198993
>It's like storming Normandy with a pocket knife
Kino. Only cowards don't see the elegancy.

>>719194564 (OP)
There is a tiny, very minimal, miniscule amount of hope here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xHZodgC2Y
But it's UE5, so the physics will be utter and absolute dogshit.
But hey, at least someone's trying...

>>719194564 (OP)
Outside of the Physics I fail to see what this game did so much better then the competition

>>719194564 (OP)
There is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5533hzZfs0

>>719194564 (OP)
Didn't they recently fix this game so it runs on modern systems?

>>719200536
Hope so, I haven't been able to play it for like 10 years.

>>719199705
>aside from the physics
>aside from the system which allows for the weight of your blows, the velocity and strength of each attack, as well as the importance of what and where they land, I don't see what this game did so much better
right

>>719194564 (OP)
Dying Light is clearly reminiscent of DMoMaM

>>719201703
Dying Light's combat is dogshit and the worst part of the game.

>>719200536
Copy this into the launch options if you have the game on Steam:

-width 2560 -height 1600 -dxlevel 90 -heapsize 2097152 -novid +datacachesize "128"

Adjust so it fits your screen's resolution. It makes the game more stable. It still crashes occasionally but at least you'll be able to complete it.

Somehow I loved the smithing in dark Messiah

Dark Messiah was great. Weird how it was made in source.

>>719197370
which game are you referring to?

>>719204005
>Weird how it was made in source.
It was the best physics engine at the time, it made sense.

>>719204128
i really liked throwing objects at people, i played tons of HL2 deathmatch and just use the gravity gun

>>719194564 (OP)
It's pretty much Skyrim combat, but with a kick

>>719194564 (OP)
Vermintide 2 blows this trash out of the water

>>719204341
No kick, it's crap

I'm interested, sell me the game.

>>719204934
you run around kicking orcs into physics objects as a sexy succubus rides around in your head telling you to be bad

>>719194564 (OP)
>best first person melee combat
That would be Vermintide 2.

>>719194564 (OP)
It really is quite hard to make a combat system like Dark Messiah's. It's complicated, but feels simple and intuitive. You can attack in various ways, kick, and cast spells, all with realistic/intuitive/feelsgood physics. Making good 3D body physics that works well in many combat situations is not easy. It has lots of extra shit like decapitation, body damage, whatever. It's extremely difficult to make a system like that. You need at least one very smart guy who has the passion and ability to implement it, perhaps with help from underlings. Ideally you need a few smart guys to help and provide feedback. These guys typically will cost a lot of money. If instead you have 300 cheap and/or diversity hired goons, you are simply not going to make that kind of combat system, even through imitation.

>>719198490
This is still better than every garbage Souls game.

>>719194564 (OP)
>Kick does nothing unless there's an instakill trap behind the enemy, in which case kick is OP
this game is vastly overrated

>>719206403
>It's complicated, but feels simple and intuitive
it is simple and not any different from many other games, what sets it apart is how it sells it with the reaction animations physics and camera movements it's all gotta work together

>>719206716
>what sets it apart is how it sells it with the reaction animations physics and camera movements it's all gotta work together
Yes, so it's hard, exactly as I said..

>>719205183


she ultimately obeys you & helps u, by sharing her power(even tho that power sucks), & she >tries< to control you; therefore, if you are a bad master & weak, the 'succubus' is bad. if u are a good master, then the 'good' ending, is not good


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu2bUen0bA4

>>719194564 (OP)
Condemned was more fun

>>719207160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EKAHWUvR4A

I don't know why she gets all the hate, she's pretty cute and gives you the best weapons in the game.

>>719208205
She is safe, ergo boring. Some people just want spice, that is danger.

>>719208205
The evil path is just more fun to be honest, but most people prefer the demon because they are horny

>>719208557
>>719208205
When you go to the spider pit to rescue her and you find her tied on cobwebs. I mistakenly hurt her and Xana went all "Yes! Kill her, Master!" or some shit like that with her sexy voice while the blond begs for her life. Weirdest boner I've ever had.

>>719208938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6in8t4w0kFo
such an awesome game