Thread 719229304

VTMB thread?

favourite clan
favourite area
favourite girl

for me it's malk, hollywood and pisha

>>719229304 (OP)
I can't decide between malk, nos and tremere. Downtown is best hub with the most sidequests and best atmosphere. Heather is best girl.

Is this game proof you don't need to worry about making a good game so long as you frontload it?

Santa Monica and Downtown are gold, but everything that comes after is putrid dogshit, which is like 80% of the game. Yet that 20% is somehow enough to get people to forget the 80% and treat it as a cult classic.

>>719230296
Hollywood and even chinatown are still good despite being worse than the previous areas. The only questionable part is the "boss rush" in the last 5% of the game

>>719229304 (OP)
>no porn mods

>>719230394
And the sewer and the church. And the cable car section. Chinatown was mediocre and hollywood was downright trash (graveyard mission? Escorting that guy through the metro?)

>>719230798
t. filtered by the zombie mission

>>719230935
Yes I do get filtered by low quality gameplay, how could you tell?

>>719230798
>graveyard mission? Escorting that guy through the metro?
Those quests have alternative solutions

>>719229304 (OP)
Ventrue
Downtown
Damsel

>>719229304 (OP)
She's pretty hot, how much is her DLC?

>>719230237
Malk female

>>719230296
disagree, fending off zombies at the cementary was cool, snuff film production mansion was cool.
The game is not front-loaded, it's carried by the mood. I'd even say that my biggest take away with current games is that noone cares about mood now, it's all graphisc, gameplay, story, whatever, but it's like there's noone to look at it from above and actually see if it all glues together.

>>719230296
Hollywood is my favourite zone, and there is NOTHING you can say to change that.

Best game ever made.

>>719229304 (OP)
Impregnate

>>719230296
Don't be a retard and actually put thought into your build and that alone fixes most of the game's problems.

Only the sewers are outright irredeemable.

>>719230394
I don't know that I agree on hollywood being worse than santa monica or downtown. Chinatown is the only one that feels under-cooked.

>>719229304 (OP)
Malkavian
Malk protagonist
Downtown

I am no longer here.

>>719229304 (OP)
>favourite clan

In theory I want to say Ventrue, but they're really the only clan that I didn't actually enjoy playing.

>>719229304 (OP)
>favourite clan
Don't really have one.
>favourite area
That's difficult. It's probably Hollywood, I liked the missions there the most. Santa Monica has the apartment, but so much of it is a janky maze. Same with Downtown. It's a janky maze, where the two of the places you are going to be visiting the most are on completely opposite ends (The Last Round and the Skyline player apartment). Least favorite is chinatown because there's less to do there.
>favourite girl
Jeannette once you get rid of Theresa.

>>719230296
You're not wrong, I had the same feeling. The intro is so strong that it carries the rest of the game, but it goes progressively downhill the closer you get to the end. If the combat/stealth was better it would be a different story, because the game progresses to bigger and bigger compounds with more and more enemies, which would have been good progression if the gameplay was fun. Since the gameplay is not fun, you're really only playing it through to follow out the story which had such a strong setup that it's worth playing through to the end.

>>719236505
The kind of status benefits that would come with Ventrue blood is lost on Bloodlines, being that you're a mistake and all.

I generally like the more "Vanilla" clans like Brujah, Toreador, and Ventrue over the ones with clear special powers or things making it impossible to hide their curse like Malk, Nos, or Tzim.

>>719237019
Cringe and I just wanna be a heckin normal guy pilled. The clans with obvious and debilitating curses are peak.

>favourite clan
toreador (male)
>favourite area
that little beach area in the back of downtown with the thinbloods sitting around
>favourite girl
yukie. i took like 10 screencaps of her pantsu

>>719237074
You're a blood drinking parasite already, you pixie.

>>719237074
>cringe
>-pilled
>peak
anon for fuck's sake

>>719237019
>or Tzim.
Tzimisce can totally hide their curse, they just don't want to, because they are edgy that way.

>>719237151
At least I show it on my face instead of putting on airs, blueblood.

>>719236831
>The intro is so strong
The reason it's so strong is that you aren't really having to engage with the combat/stealth mechanics all that much. I think the part where you infiltrate the house on the cliff is basically the peak of the stealth/combat gameplay, everything else after that there are too many enemies plus areas being too large and that's where the flaws in the combat and stealth become glaring. The NPC's staar misbehaving and the combat starts showing it's glitches. If they had kept the combat/stealth sections to about that size throughout the entire game it would have been far less tedious. If the combat/stealth was more refined, this wouldn't have been a problem.

I am still hoping for a Changeling game.

I'm not having a lot of fun as tremere. I feel so blood starved all the time if I want to actually use all my powers freely. Playing for blood slows me down. Versus any of the clans with celerity or animalism.

>>719230296
Yeah. I played this game on and off since around 2011 and always quit at the sewers. I finally pushed through last year and it turns out hating just the sewers is a fucking meme. It never gets good again.

I played the "vanilla" GoG version a year or two ago. What are some nice mods for a new playthrough if you have done most the game has to offer?
is it true the companion mod was made by a tranny or something kek

>>719237463
GOG* I have no fucking clue why I spelled it like that. Excuse my drunken typos.

>>719237463
Clan Quest Mod.
If only for that Sabbat route that completely derails the whole plot of the game.
Nines is the final boss. That's the highlight right there, you get to kill the fucker.

>>719237463
Unofficial patch + is pretty good. It adds a lot of quests to the later areas that flesh out the world quite a bit, even if a lot of them are shit from a gameplay perspective.

>>719237556
cheers anon!

>>719229304 (OP)
This and Deus Ex are my favorites from the 2000s. I have an ax to grind; Half-Life 2 being as lauded as it was after these two games were released, however much VTMB falls apart towards its end, is a genuine crime against the medium.

>>719229304 (OP)
I tried playing it but its so fucking janky, who the fuck makes games in source engine other than valve lmao

>>719237019
Toreador and Brujah are great because they're killing machines.

>>719237712
Titanfall devs, who made Titanfall and Apex Legends on Source.

>>719237712
spoken like a true newgen that has never played one of the greatest multiplayer FPS games of all time.

>>719237106
>that little beach area in the back of downtown with the thinbloods sitting around

I just wish there was more to do there. I wonder if they originally planned on having quests on the pier?

>>719237712
Activision apparently.
There is a story behind that engine, too.
Activision literally forced the unfinished beta version of the Source engine on Troika, told them to release the game before HL2 launches, so that Activision gets the accolades of being the first company to use the Source engine and ignored Troika's claims that this engine REALLY isn't suited for a complex cRPG.

>>719229304 (OP)
Clan? Malkavian or True Brujah
Area? Santa Monica
Girl? The Deb of Night

>>719237697
>Half-Life 2
HL2 has better combat than both. Deus Ex and VTMB have great branching storylines, but Deus Ex has the same problem as VTMB where the gameplay just becomes a tedious chore that falls apart, though with Deus Ex it's much closer to the end (the part where you start mainly fighting the Unatco mech guys is where it fell apart for me, those guys were shite from a gameplay perspective). Thing about HL2 is the combat is fun from beginning to end, and gameplay trumps story, though I am a fan of all three games.

>>719230296
I think the game is only a cult classic because there is nothing else like it. You can easily make the argument it's a 5/10 game at best.

Deep down you all know arthoe vampires are the best clan

Half of the complaints about this game are completely nullified by not being a retard with your build. Why does so much of /v/ still have difficulty with this concept?

Hot take, but I still think Cyberpunk 2077 is the closest thing we'll get to a proper spiritual successor to Bloodlines.

>>719238202
grim

>>719237447
You can get more blood out of victims than you invest if you stay still

>>719238063
It's just like Morrowind. People have grown around games that hold your hand and don't allow you to fail, so when a game does that's a game design flaw

>>719238063
Doesn't nullify anything. There is too much time spent with 0/10 combat system instead of having more dialog and non combat focused quests. The Fallout games have actual combat that can be fun and yet they still offer vastly more roleplaying, dialog and non combative solutions.

The world is completely dead. There is no point in exploration because you need to activate quest flags for interesting things to spawn at the locations. The game is just an utter failure.

>>719238063
You're being a fucking idiot conflating people not finding the game enjoyable with them having difficulty with it. I'm not entertaining your premise. Approach the topic from a slightly less disingenuous, confrontational perspective and then maybe we can have a conversation.

>>719238345
I know but it just slows me down. That's what I'm bitching about. Vs some of the other offensive powers just going ham with no down time.

>>719238202
Don't really get how you'd make that connection

>>719237971
NTA, but Gameplay 4/10. It's playable, but the flaws in the stealth/combat are so ridiculous it's why everyone is always having to apologize for it or downplay how bad it is.
Setting 10/10
Art Style 10/10
Story 10/10
Atmosphere 10/10
It has enough going for it that it's worth playing despite the gameplay. I calculate it as a 9/10 game, it's elevated far above the flaws in the gameplay because they absolutely nailed every other category, but there's a reason it has such a negative backlash. If I told you it was a 9/10 game without warning you that the gameplay is crap you're probably going to go into it expecting it to play much better than it does which is going to give you a negative perception when you inevitably get frustrated by the braindead NPC's, the floaty controls, the hit detection, the damage calculations and the level design.

>>719238474
You can always use blood boil and blood purge to stun and destory large groups and then feed from the stragglers to full blood. They are very flexible with melee and ranged and you can also stealth with dominate.

>>719233318
VTMB was quite literally just random atmospheric setpieces glued together.
>we need to have a haunted house level
>we need to have a gangster level
>we need to have a ship level
>we need to have a museum level
>we need to have a fucking sewer level or I’ll scream
It follows a very standard cookie cutter level structure typical of the early 00s and it feels like the story was crafted around the pre-determined levels. Reminded me of Timesplitters with the level variety really.

No matter how hard you shills try to badmouth this game it wont work because we can just boot it up again and see how fucking great it is.

>>719238063
I maxed out my firearms but that didn't change the fact the asian compound has 500 chinks in it or that the slug was a massive bullet sponge with me just running around in circles until she died or that the sewers are terribly fucking designed and I had to noclip through walls to find the one corner I didn't stumble upon that had the keycard

Want to replay it for the first time in like 20 years. What are the best mods for the best experience. Keep in mind I'm a busy person so I will only be able to play through the game once.

>clan
ventru
>area
santa monica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuXD3jTDqqU
>girl
femmalk, my beloved

>>719238541
A lot of these aspects are frontloaded also. Yes the atmosphere in downtown and santa monica is great. When I'm going through the sewers I'm sure as hell not thinking "wow, sure the combat, gameplay is boring repetitive and sucks ass, but at least the atmosphere he and environments are god tier". No, at that point I just hate everything about the game.
>>719237697
Thankfully Deus Ex stays strong a bit longer than VTMB but the latter half still shifts from interesting hubs and character interaction to just overindulgence in the game's dogshit combat and stealth against utterly braindead AI with no object permanence and that literally just BSoDs for a couple of seconds any time it detects you.

>>719238380
you're proving the point

>>719238458
you're being a fag

>>719238763
that sounds like a you problem

>>719238541
Ok and now the real numbers without dick sucking.

Atmosphere 8/10
They went too overboard with the background sound effects. They are poorly mixed into the game and repeat too often that you very fast realize that 95% of sound effects are fake that don't come from any entity in the game which makes the world feel fake and hurts the atmosphere, could have easily been avoided by having more taste. But overall the atmosphere is the strongest point of this game by far.

Art style 7/10
Mostly attractive and unique looking males and females, particularly impressive for a western PC game, in particular an older RPG. But there are some immensely ugly characters as well. The monster design is mostly awful and comically retarded.

Story 6/10 at best
The story is just doing fetch quests for a retard while the end is just Jack pranked everybody. Funny but the story is not interesting or good in this game. It's mostly interacting with the characters that is the highlight. No one cares what is in the sarcophagus and you have too little choice to influence the story.

Setting 6/10
Most non hub locations are total shit. Sewers, boring large buildings with nothing interesting in them. Downtown and Hollywood are just one linear street with buildings attached. Most overrated aspect of the game. Not even Santa Monica is particularly well designed, it's just vastly superior to the rest of the shit show.

>>719238771
Just use the unofficial patch. It fixes a lot of issues and adds in some content.

>>719238846
>No, at that point I just hate everything about the game.
Yeah but I'd argue that's because the combat is so frustrating it makes you ignore everything else. I felt the same way on my first playthrough but if you take a moment to appreciate the beauty of this image you can see that the art style and atmosphere are great, it's just I was blind to it on my first playthrough because I was so put off by the shit gameplay. You can take a screen from almost any point in the game and use it to show it off, it's just having played it you now associate those images with downright tedium.

>>719237779
And Titanfall doesn't feel like source slop, aka VTM devs are just weak

>>719230237
malk with the unofficial patch that makes the schizo voices louder and more frequent

>>719238629
it's not random mate, the game is a compilation of cool shit of same/similar mood, it is cool because of having all of these features, it's completly different from what happens now when instead of checklist consisting of cool haunted house, cool zombie invasion level because zombies are cool, sexy vampire bitches cause tits are cool, it's more like we have to have open world cause everyone else does, we have to have question/exclaimation mark location with nothing interesting in it because everyone else does, we have to have witcher senses, spidey senses, assasin senses or whatever you call it because everyone else does. Like none of this shit is in game cause it's cool, it's all there because the marketing department or whatever ceo says that it has to be there cause it's popular

What are the best companion or total conversion mods?

>>719239257
skyrim

>>719229304 (OP)
Malk or Toreador
Santa Monica
Therese

this game rightfully bombed bec the gameplay and the graphics are shit (even back then)
pure jank

>>719229304 (OP)
Just finished the game earlier today, I loved the first half but the endings seems kinda troll. Is it worth a second playthrough I know there's extra content mods

>>719239498
I'd say yes. Different clans, skills and builds add a bit to the game.

>>719237074
go outside

>>719239101
We're on the same page really it's just I'd classify some of those flaws under gameplay.
> doing fetch quests
That's more of a gameplay issue to me, lack of variety.
>Most non hub locations are total shit.
I would put that under level design, but I would include the hub locations are also shit because your movespeed is so slow and you have to backtrack them so many times.
>They went too overboard with the background sound effects.
Eh, that's just a matter of taste. I appreciate that kind of cheese. The glaring flaw with the sound design was the "enhanced sound effects" giving all the characters an echo in dialogue, but I chose to overlook it because you can disable that.
>But there are some immensely ugly characters as well. The monster design is mostly awful and comically retarded.
I enjoyed them. Some NPC's definitely have more time and detail put into them than others, the complaint I would have is that there are so many duplicate NPC's that I kept running into doppelgangers of the player character, but I overlooked that again because it doesn't bother me that much. Every zombie in HL2 has the same white shirt that none of the other NPC's have.
>Sewers, boring large buildings with nothing interesting in them.
I felt that they fit well within the setting, it's set in a city so there aren't any fantastic or ill fitting locations that wouldn't be believable. Adds to the immersion of making it feel more real.
>Downtown and Hollywood are just one linear street with buildings attached.
I preferred that to the maze that Santa Monica is lol. Hollywood is largely my favorite because it is just one street with all the buildings attached, I don't have to slog around it and find the different nooks. It's so efficient.

>>719239558
To an extent. I'm not sure you'd get much out of a Ventrue run directly after doing a Toreador or a Gangrel after a Brujah run. Only for clans that give specific dialogue or powers like Malk, Nos, or Tremere

i honestly love the combat in the game just rippin shit up with protean rn desu

>>719239498
When you know what to expect from the late game, you can prepare for it by building your character accordingly. That takes away a lot of the frustration. So yeah, I'd say it's 100% worth a second playthrough.

>>719229304 (OP)
Toreador
Santa Monica or Hollywood
Lacroix

>>719239790
very impressive, now tell me who your employer is

How do I kill things as ventrue?

Also can I do a Sabbat playthrough as a ventrue in the clan quest mod?

>>719239790
Honestly I agree, I think the melee combat is pretty fun when you're buffed with a power like Potence and just sending every did you smack flying around.
It's definitely not good, but it is enjoyable.

>>719230296
Nah Hollywood is great, way better atmosphere than Downtown, and while the combat heavy areas like sewers suck so do the earlier "dungeons" like the museum and grout's mansion so it's not like that's unique to the later game segments.

The moment for me when I realized the game is total shit was when you attacked the Sabbat hotel. The mission itself was 0/10 but what bothered me more was how everything in this mission was portrayed. The Sabbat are supposed to have tons of quantity but the only vampires you met were high level vampires which had strong level 5 skills like the gangrel wolf transformation. There were also tons and tons of fucking humans and then I realized they don't know how to design their game around their own mechanics because they basically had to leave tons of blood sacks around for the player to refill their blood pool.

Every single aspect of that mission was a 0/10, it honestly couldn't even be explained with a lack of time. There simply was no talent in the dev team.

>>719229304 (OP)
>favorite clan
Malkavian because they are somewhat relatable, not a schizo but for some reason had weird way of talking when I was younger.
>favorite area
Confession club, I WILL LISTEN TO THAT BAUSHAUS SONG VENUS
>favorite girl
I love to piss off Damsel

>>719237019
Brujah is the best because it's the only one that gets both celerity and potence which are the most fun powers.

>>719239790
/v/ is still in denial that the reason why they didn't enjoy the combat is because they didn't build a character for combat. Some of the disciplines are tons of fun to use in combat. Gangrels can be made into absolute overpowered monsters by power-leveling Unarmed Combat and doing a low Humanity run and knowing how and when to fully take advantage of your abilities.

>>719240032
With melee and Dominate.
Yes. Ventrue antitribu are a thing, you know.

Just started the game for the first time as a Tremere, any advices regarding builds?
I mostly don't know whatever the fuck I'm doing.

>>719240032
>How do I kill things as ventrue?

How deep are you in? Or are you not currently playing and you're only asking this hypothetically?

Only of the best things about the game is all the unique dialog that was written for NPCs that you only hear by bumping into them. Some of the funniest lines in the game and I doubt most players even hear them.

>>719240345
Just asking hypothetically. I'm almost done with my tremere and I wanted to play ventrue for the first time with clan quests.

>>719240285
Every game now has a low IQ "git gud" fag. Dark Souls did irreparable brain damage to this board.

>>719240223
>shitting on grout's mansion
Peak shit taste.

>>719240317
blood sorcery puts a massive drain on your blood supply and doesn't work on bosses so do invest in some other form of combat

>nosferatu
nosferatu
>near dark
gangrel
>lost boys
brujah
>interview with a vampire
toreador

anything else im missing?

>>719240746
>Tzimisce
Bram Stocker's Dracula
>Malkavian
Buffy (Drusilla)
I am sure there is a movie about vampiric mages out there somewhere that covers Tremere

>>719240746
> tzimisce
necroscope

>>719240531
But it's not an issue of skill. Why are you complaining that your combat skills are weak when you didn't build the character for combat?

>>719240531
Nah you don't get it man, gameplay quality is defined entirely by how much you can break it, who cares if the mechanical depth of it is cookie clicker tier. Pshysics? Fluid movement? Feedback? Engaging excecution? What's that? Who cares. I found the "build" in this simplistic ass game that makes these dogshit unfun janky low budget encounters easy, that's all that matters. I get to prove to the internet how hardcore epic style of a gamer I am by figuring out the meta of a cadual single player game that goves you like 3 combat skills per class.

>>719240703
He is not wrong though. The enemies are complete shit in that level and for some reason the entire level is completely generic garbage except for that part where you basically finished it and can go to grout's bedroom or you can go into an optional side path, and for some bizarre reason this is the section where the crazy malkavian mansion part starts. It feels like they had a much more ambitious idea, couldn't finish it for some reason and then decided to not remove it but just sideline it and make the main part some generic low effort shit.

>>719237924
>Trujah
KILL YOURSELF

>>719240746
>setite
Queen of the Damned

The game is good but the combat can be ass, you know what it needs? Rolling. Where is my sloppy dark souls mod?

>>719240746
>>near dark
>gangrel
>>lost boys
>brujah

Switch these around.

>>719241025
See the post above yours, retard.

>>719241130
Nah, Lost Boys is a textbook Brujah Sabbat pack.

>>719241006
I played Gangrel and no matter what you did in the melee comabt was just not fun because the combos in this game suck, you just have one boring combo where the finisher completely sucks. But it was still easy as hell. For Ming and the bat I used the animalism projectile skill I think it was level 1 or 2 skill where you shoot a beetle and it shredded them despite me not using animalism the entire game.

>>719241130
>near dark
>a bunch of drifters constantly on the run, from one town to the other
>feeding on the lowest of the low
>only trust in their small knit group
textbook gangrel

>>719229304 (OP)
>clan
tremere
>area
hollywood only because of mommy velvet
>girl
the one who doesnt get enough love
>vendor
tseng. he doesnt ask for much, and easily the best vendor followed by mercurio

>>719240029
ok u got me i work for…… troika games!!!!! they came back from the dead to pay me 22 shekels to promote a 20 year old game

I would think /v/ doesn't like this setting because vampires don't enjoy sex

>>719241192
I won't see shit, you fucking moron. The other anon is right, your zoomer brain has been completely rotten by dark souls memes and you cannot even begin to conceptualise the idea that quality of gameplay is measured more than just "the challenge". You're so fucking braindead you see people saying "Big Rigs Over the Road Racing has shit gameplay" and you fail to realise people don't enjoy it because clipping through hills, having garbage animation, vehicle turning snapping unnaturally, and the whole gamefeel just being extremely low quality results in an unenjoyable experience, so instead you just reply "you just need to git gud, once you figure out the truck meta and know good track routing you can grind the competition to dust". You're genuinely a fucking braindead neanderthal. Please, do the world a favour and brick your skull.

>>719240029
shillschizo...

>>719241524
>blush of life
>high humanity
>toreador
>tzimisce
>jeanette

would it make a good game if built in the same fashion as bloodlines?

>>719241524
what are you talking about. just cuz they don't enjoy it doesn't mean we can't fuck em. besides who are they going to report too without breaking their precious masquerade?
vampires are the perfect rape victims

>>719241726
Vampires don't have real feelings, they just echo what they did when they were humans if they have high humanity.
>>719241826
Only way I could see you raping vampires is if you were a high level vampire hunter going for low gen trash. Maybe a mage specializing in rape magic could do it as well.

>>719233318
>fending off zombies at the cemetery was cool

say that after you reach the last 30 seconds. would rather buy the dude some tail than go through that shit again

>>719229304 (OP)
Gangrel
Chinatown
Yukie

>>719233459
She bought?

>>719242025
>Vampires don't have real feelings

>>719242025
> a mage specializing in rape magic
gonna rape vampires and the fabric of reality

>>719242139
At least human feelings. This is established by literally every rule book ever.

>>719242139
>mfw i bach wants me us bullets and melee attacks

>>719240746
>twilight
ventrue

>>719242139
>mfw bach wants me to use bullets and melee attacks

>>719240746
>let the right one in
....

>>719242042
I did that as Toreador for sweet firearms skill bonus and it left me me wondering if it's even possible to do without Celerity.

>>719242406
tzimisce?

>>719240746
Jennifer's blood also cashes out for toreador

>>719241613
What part of "it's not an issue of skill" do you not understand? You're ignoring the post that proves you wrong and replying with reddit faggotry. As has been pointed out already, DON'T IGNORE BUILDING FOR COMBAT AND THEN COMPLAIN THAT COMBAT SUCKS. Your entire issue is with your own build being unfun. That's your fault, not the game's.

>>719240746
>Brujah
The Lost Boys
>Toreador
Only Lovers Left Alive
>Ventrue
Dracula (for the themes of mastery over mortal minds)
>Nosferatu
Nosferatu
>Gangrel
Near Dark
>Malkavian
Let the Right One in
>Tremere
Underworld (For ancient political conspiracies and backstabbing)

>>719237463
Just for anyone interested:
https://www.gog.com/en/game/vampire_the_masquerade_bloodlines_unofficial_patch

>>719242473
I dont see that at all, I was thinking more on the lines of a lasombra maybe since we don't know if she has real feelings for the boy or only manipulates him to become her serial killer

>>719242661
>>Toreador
>Only Lovers Left Alive
I totally forgot about that movie, it fits the toreador so much

>>719229304 (OP)
Tremere dude cause magic, downtown, Jeanette
10/10 on the basic bitch scale but I'm yet to come back to play malkavian

>>719242724
all i remember at this point is that she was trans with mutilated genitals or something

>>719242661
>>719240746
>Daybreakers
the ministry

>>719242656
I built for combat. I breezed through all the combat encounters. They were still shit, unfun, and the whole experience felt so cheap it's like they allocated a candy wrapper with a dollar sign written on it for the entire budget. Which part of "the difficulty doesn't matter, the while thing feels unenjoyable regardless" are you too fucking stupid to comprehend?

When did the unofficial patch (not +) start making questionable changes? I have an old version and I might stick with it rather than updating.

>>719242840
in the novel the vamp was actually a boy that has been castrated before turning and then found it easier to pass a girl

>>719242952
as far as you can remember, patch notes cover some of it but not all
>"Made Empire clerk bisexual responding to Seduction from either sex."
>"Corrected bug caused by 1.9 corruption that broke Chinatown quests." (so he fixed his own bug)
>"Removed critical bum cutscene and illogical Pisha feeding cutscene."
>"Put unfinished dogs at Giovanni Mansion and fixed Mira dialogue bug."

>>719242952
Most people agree that version 10+ has the most "questionable" changes. Wesp has moved almost all of the "not an objective bug" tweaks over to UP+ as of version 11.5, but norrwin and lurk still have their own purist patches that are more strict. However their patches don't fix a lot of annoying shit and NPC pathing issues so I'd say stick with UP 9 or lower for the best balance of fixes to purity.

>>719242952
You remember how people shitpost about Venus being Fat Larry's dom? Yeah, that's a UP change.

>>719243716
huh how? is there a cut line of dialogue that suggests larry his a relationship with her?

>>719243716
>>719243773
That's in the base game. She gets an email from Larry

>>719242901
No one said anything about "difficulty". You are literally retarded.

>>719243869
No, she gets it from Kilpatrick

>>719243606
Thanks, that's what I needed to know.

>>719243606
I wish he'd keep the questionable shit out of Plus. I like the restorations and shortcuts and some of the new stuff, but doing stuff like changing the location of music is inexcusable. Any change that seems random is what bothers me.

>>719243230
>>"Made Empire clerk bisexual responding to Seduction from either sex."

What the fuck is the point of this?

>>719244160
>What the fuck is the point of this?
that about sums unofficial patch up, yeah

>>719244160
so you can use seduction regardless of gender?

>>719243976
One addendum, the one big glaring "not a bug" change that I remember in UP 9, Wesp shuffled the vendor lists for the pistols for balance reasons. So Mercurio and Larry sell you Brokk 17c earlier.
I actually think this was a smart change because the way the vendor population worked for handguns in vanilla made literally zero sense and was probably an oversight, however it is objectively not a bug, so you'll have to copypaste the original vendor vdata files from vanilla if you want a purer experience.
There's a couple of other things but nothing as major as this.

>>719243902
If you didn't notice, Venus is a literal ho

>>719243230
Huh are they going to remove the Giovanni lady who said something bad about lesbians

>have no charisma and seduction
>go into any club
>all the women will laugh at you and make jokes about you
>tfw
Too realistic.

Split between Brujah and Malk.
A part of me wants to say Chinatown because of how different it is compared to the other zones but Santa Monica is so peak
Damsel. I would side with the Anarch’s if she let me lick her ass for the rest of my unlife.

>>719244087
To his credit, he has moved the majority of the non-bug changes to UP+ to the best of my knowledge, the base UP is honestly not that bad now. Someone on Reddit collated a list of what they amusingly called "Drogg" changes last year and it was a very small list. The main items that troubled me was the missing music, some typos being corrected in areas where they were clearly deliberate (someone rushing their typing on a computer, for instance), and NPC locations being shuffled (I don't know why this isn't UP+ but Wesp is a bit eccentric). Other than that, all the stupid shit like the secret weapon locations, skill book redistribution, icon switching, context icon "fixes", hunter placement in the finale, vampire placement in the bloodhunt, etc have been moved to UP+.

>>719244556
>Take my number. Ready? Here's the first digit.

>>719244663
too close for what

>>719244281
>>719244628
based knowledge, thank you for this, ill stick to lurk for now tho, i just hate arbitrary change

>>719244556
Really wish presence let you cheat on social roles instead of being a crappy debuff

>>719244808
? Presence is extremely busted in combat, making bloodbuff do that to seduction stats makes more sense

>>719244808
Presence checks exist in some version of the game, you can even try to spam Presence 5 on Bach and he'll get freaked out, must be an Unofficial Patch or Clan Quest Mod addition.

>>719244861
Bloodbuff shouldn't be in the game at all

>>719245042
I'm not one of these "ohhh muh CRT" guys normally, the phosphor flickering honestly gives me a headache, but genuinely the only way to play Bloodlines is in 4:3 on a CRT. It just feels right.

>>719245086
this, its gamebreaking
it even devalues lockpicking as a build decision

>>719237556
The Sabbat area is really cool actually. And the VAs do a decent job at least in that area.

>>719237463
The Companion Mod was made by barabbah, a highly based Italian gentleman desu

I think I might reinstall to try the LA by Night mod

>>719244221
Which makes your choices have less consequence.

Fucking retarded.

>>719244628
>"Drogg" changes

Explain this terminology.

>>719245234
No idea why they made it max out physical attributes instead of just doing +1 or +2 to skills.

>>719229304 (OP)
Nosferatu has the best dialogue options. You feel so weirdly real.

Awkwardly trying to explain why you look this way to people and making excuses, and sometimes fucking with them instead. I wonder if it was intentional to give the most monstrous clan the most human dialogue choices?

ALSO IMPORTANT QUESTION LADS! I haven't played bloodlines in a while and I've heard there were a few big mods out that added in loads of cut content, what should I install?

>>719244628
I wish GOG would stick to including 9.9 because seriously anything too far after that is less than ideal.

>>719245234
Lockpicking is an absolute trash skill that only wastes your time with opening irrelevant shit that has nothing of value.

Shame that the bloodlines multiplayer mod is dead, it was doing some technical magic with the bloodlines spagehetti code

>>719245557
Drog is the mod author of Arcanum unofficial patch, he also hates Wesp with a passion

>>719245557
its a reference to the arcanum unofficial patch maker, who similar to wesp, started out by fixing bugs but slowly encroached into making stupid changes over time

>>719245624
>I haven't played bloodlines in a while and I've heard there were a few big mods out that added in loads of cut content, what should I install?
Stay away from UP+, cut content was cut for a reason. There are other total conversion mods you can try instead

>>719245624
>I've heard there were a few big mods out that added in loads of cut content

The Plus Patch (an optional feature of the Unofficial Patch) adds in cut content (unfortunately also makes utterly unnecessary changes, especially in more recent versions).

>>719245654
I remember reading about that when the game first came out, didn't it not get very far because there were fundamental problems with the engine?

>>719245628
I wish Wesp would just separate his random changes from the restorations and make a "Wesp version" of the patch.

Bold opinion but Bloodlines 2 will probably be a better game than the first one.

>>719245719
>>719245773
lol wat

>>719245810
Older versions of Plus are pretty great. I don't have a problem with the cut content at all.

>>719229304 (OP)
Gangrel
Downtown
Either the commie chick or Jeanette. Venus was pretty hot too.

>>719245950
No recently some nobody showed up and just restored it and all of the cut pvp content
Its still on planet vampire even though its dead

>>719243886
What does it have to do with? How does "le build for combat better" fix the shit gameplay?

>>719229304 (OP)
Redemption >>> Bloodlines
No, I will not elaborate

>>719245773
Do you know which version of the UAP has the fewest stupid changes?

>>719246371
I will never play it. It just looks too generic.

>>719229304 (OP)
Tremere
the sewers (fight me)
Damsel

>>719246374
https://terra-arcanum.com/drog/uap dot html

You can judge for yourself, the changelog is excellent.

I personally use 2.0.2 because I've played vanilla a few times and quite like all the additions but it seems like 080823 is the best version for purists who just want bugs squashed.

>>719246317
The "gameplay" isn't shit. You are building for a style of combat that you don't even enjoy and then complaining about it. That is nobody's fault but your own.

>>719246484
Bloodlines is way more generic doe

>>719236905
>finds out shes a vampire because fangs
>still has a reflection

Something doesn't add up here.

>>719246486
>the sewers

You mean the regular sewers or the extended sewer section?

>>719246934
only lasombra cant see their reflection

>>719246851
ALL "styles" of combat suck nigger

I love Bloodlines so much. I have played it countless times. I've played all the mods, even the shitty German and Russian ones. My original PC-ROM copy will be buried/burned with me when I die.

>check Companion Mod Core Edition on Nexus
>remove "the whole concept of enslaving companions against their will in order to make them follow you (and the related custom dialogs)"

>>719247646
https://sites.google.com/site/vtmbcompmodhome/

>>719246851
Oh look the fucking idiot dodges the point again. Did not predict this.

>>719247095
im fairly sure its one of the most common tropes of the vampire myth/fiction that they cant see their own reflection period

>>719248123
Garlic is more common and most of vampire fiction disables that shit because it's retarded.

>>719240746
>Thirst (2009)
Lasombra

>>719242406
Baali?

Okay i'm gonna try Clan Quest mod
Which clan should i play? Is the asian goth chick NPC that i always see a clan-exclusive?

>>719248852
whichever you want, she isnt exclusive

>>719248852
Is this AI? Is there one where she removes all clothing?

I don't like World of Darkness at all outside of VTMB. It always has this extremely western feeling where they try too hard to be edgy.

>>719248852
she can ruin me

>>719249114
I feel the same although I also enjoy Redemption.

>>719244663
>take a marker
>fix the your into you're
nothing personal

>>719250258
its too late, your too close

>>719230296
>>719238629
Shills by like: yoooo lets convince people the first game was shit! this time be subtle! surely this will make them like the new turd :)

>>719251672
no one mentioned bloodlines 2 you cultist, take your meds

>>719251753
>doesn't deny it
yoooo bloodlines 1 was so shit bro! set pieces and shit bro! right? everything after santa monica was bad right bro? pls buy paracuck game now

>>719251967
Santa Monica is overrated as fuck.

>>719251967
>no one argued that bloodlines was overrated in vtmb threads
get the fuck away from me schizo newfag

>>719229304 (OP)
>Clan
Ventrue
>Area
Downtown
>Girl
Samantha

>>719229304 (OP)
favourite clan?
tzimisce
favourite area?
the warrens
favourite girl?
the one in the snuff tape

fuck nosferatu

>>719252152
SAAAAR! BUY THE OTHER GAME NOW SAAAR!

>>719237019
Not having a gimmick discipline is actually very freeing since you can focus a lot on your character.

.t Tabletopfag

>>719237074
Though not overt, the Ventrue curse is actually pretty debilitating. Even if you have a relatively common blood requirement like "attractive members of the opposite sex", the pool of drinkable mortals goes down dramatically, not to mention no animal blood no matter how hungry you are.

>>719240032
Since Ventrue have no disciplines that buff melee or firearms directly, you can choose which you wanna do. Put points in the skill and corresponding attribute, and use fortitude and presence to never ever die. Dominate is good crowd control and higher levels just kill weaker enemies outright.

>>719244808
One mod has it add extra points to seduction and persuasion, but nullified against powerful vampires.

>>719249114
Yeah I'm not a big fan of the non-VTM oWoD splats either. Feels very tonally inconsistent, and often passes the suspension of disbelief event horizon for me.

Genuinely though, try looking at some of the nWoD, which is NOT V5/PARADOX STUFF, gamelines. I found myself really liking Changeling: the Lost, Hunter: the Vigil, and recently I've found that there are some neat things in Werewolf: the Forsaken, though I'd still call it a bit of a mixed bag.

>>719229304 (OP)
>favourite clan
Malkavian hands down
>favourite area
Hollywood hands down
>favourite girl
VV hands down

>>719254456
her hand is up though

For me, it's the female Brujah.

>>719255058
for me, its this malkavian skin

could a one man studio make a worthy successor to vtmb using a free game engine?

>>719241094
They hate us cuz they ain't us

>>719255058
His outfits mostly suck but Male Brujah looks way better in game then he does in the selection screen. What's up with that?

>>719255058
for me it's femGangrel, the hoodie is the best outfit

>favourite clan
Tremere
favourite area
Downtown
favourite girl
Samantha

>>719252174
what the fuck anon, based

>favourite clan
Tremere
>favourite area
Downtown
>favourite girl
Samantha

>>719252174
what the fuck anon, based

>>719255773
As far as Bloodlines go, I've never gotten the hate for Trujah. There's way worse bloodlines out there. Kiasyd immediately comes to mind as a far worse bloodline. Trujah at least have the interesting angle of showing a clan that was usurped way back in ancient history, and what happened with the survivors.

>>719255829
her pants are really tight in that one for some reason

>>719229304 (OP)
Toreador, because they seem the most social, human, and safe just to actually be super dangerous and emotionally unstable

Hollywood solely because that's where you get the Magnum (My Beloved)

Chastity because she has the power of God and Anime

>>719256306
As far as Bloodlines go, Trujah don't even exist. They're hated because when they were invented they were a busted meme anc now they're just overhyped edgelords.

>>719256358
it's to appeal to me specifically

What's the best build for a pacifistic/minimal combat playthorugh?

>>719257184
A different game

>>719248929
Not OP, but I made it. I made a topless one too, but I could not get the boobs to sag so they just look like bolt-ons.

>>719255106
Mod devs overdid her face there.

>>719230296
the whole game was pretty enjoyable to me
only thing I didn't like was moving out of the shithole apartment
I liked that shithole

>>719256712
You're still mad over a busted build from 2nd edition? There's at least some interesting lore stuff that can be derived from the Trujah. Kiasyd have been far more obnoxious in my personal experience. Daughters of Cacophony or Lhiannan are also definitely worse than Trujah.

>>719229304 (OP)
>favourite clan
Toreador
>favourite area
Sea side
>favourite girl
Jeannette. Just her. Not her cunt of a sister that tried to get me whacked.

>>719257706
can you remake it in jeanette's bedroom, it would fit better

>>719257729
nah

>>719257706
To be honest, it's probably lore accurate that she has implants. Post it, friend.

>>719229304 (OP)
>Favorite Clan
Toreador
>Favorite Area
Downtown
>Favorite Girl
VV
>Favorite Track
Lecher Bich

>>719257184
You can not kiss-ass your way in the vampire world forever. Eventually you'll be forced to fight. The game tells you this.

>>719255106
link to mod?
Does it change all the outtfits?

>>719257184
Ventrue
>Dominate is an excellent stealth tool and can pull double duty if you don't want to do persuasion
>When in non-essential fights, just pop fortitude and presence and run past all the enemies through the doors
>Even with weak combat investment, can brute force earlier mandatory bosses with sheer tankiness.
>Lategame go full guns and shoot every essential boss with magnum, deagle, aug, auto-shotty and uzi.

Toreador
>Celerity nyoom past non-essential fights
>Presence improves survivability
>Auspex helps hacking and guns, which you'll need for late game fights

Malkavian
>Obfuscate to stealth past enemies
>Dementation can do crowd control and fill in for social skills sometimes
>Auspex again for late game shooting

>>719259258
https://www.moddb.com/games/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/addons/female-malkavian-reskin

only armor0

>>719258001
I couldn't find any good pics of her in the bedroom to use as a base, and I don't have the game installed.

>>719258140
Very well.
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1756404145624793.mp4

>>719259820
Thanks

Close to the end of the game you come to a research facility where you must get trough various kill chambers so they can find out what is effective against vampires. Wasn't that section stupid as fuck? By all means it isn't that hard to kill a vampire.

>>719260082
Yeah, they really need to sag.

>>719260082
Make Damsel undress. Please.

>>719260108
>Wasn't that section stupid as fuck?
Not really.
>By all means it isn't that hard to kill a vampire.
You have meta-knowledge about this. They don't.

>>719260108
Logically dumb yeah, but I think that's one of the more enjoyable levels going through it the first time.

>>719260108
it was kino

>>719260108
It was a little contrived but it's a fun section that I look forward to every playthrough. And it's one of two maps in the entire game where you encounter SWAT enemies. If you don't go against LaCroix, it'll be the only time you will ever see them. Pretty cool!

>>719241797
If you want to take away the freedom sure. Best way to go is the capture the spirit like pic related.

>>719239337
Delicious firm Malk tummy

>>719260082
I'm glad I clicked this.

>>719260108
It is indeed kind of stupid and a weak part of the game, but in the game's defense, they're trying to be scientists about it and preparing for a Kuei-jin war on and continued contact with western kindred. Not just go by basic rumor or what kindred are willing to tell them. They don't necessarily know much about clans or what fortitude is. Some vampires are sensitive to light or holy symbols or need to rest in the same place like a classic vampire, but only some.

What does feel unlikely to me though is Kuei-jin have no body of knowledge on vampires before modern times when they started moving to California on boats. Like they've never dissected a vampire in India? It's right next door.

>>719242235
>What is the Humanity Status for?

>>719255058
Gross. Imagine being a Brujah. Not only a tool in life, but in undead life too.

>>719260956
t. Bertram

>>719257706
Wat tools?

>>719261298
>Wat tools?
Who invited the Gangrel furry?

>>719260956
Imagine being that one Bruja that actually is a modern day warrior-philosopher. Not even some boomer Carthage larper, just a guy that loves guns, fighting, and also the classics/science. Must be lonely.

>>719260737
Humanity is for how much you remember of yourself before you died. Vampires "feel" in the way that they remember how they felt as humans and let it echo trough their body. That's why a vampire can never feel something new. They can only feel what they felt when they were alive.

So if a vampire never learned love as a human they will never be able to even feel a tiny bit of love as vampires.

>>719260650
tummy sex

>>719261801
Isn't it also regarding who you can kill without suffering humanity loss? With Jack being a pirate in life allowing him to kill the crew of the ship Elizabeth Dane. I wonder how that would work if you were a soldier, the local barista is off limits though the Iraqi couple walking by are fair game.

>>719260262
I need a good image of her first.

>>719261298
i2v with Wan 2.2 in comfyui

>>719262097
>Isn't it also regarding who you can kill without suffering humanity loss?
Not, really. Eventually your humanity is so low you no longer can lose more by murdering. Also, I don't think Jack has a high humanity either.

What do we think of this vtm fan project?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUgUdXzJB4c

>>719236381
>>719260865
Look at them go!

>>719262120
I have only 1080p ones I made. Someone provide this man with high quality screenshots, I know you made some.

>>719229304 (OP)
malk, downtown, female malk or damn sail

>>719262097
That guy's mostly talking out of his ass. Jack does that shit because he's a low humanity elder. Has nothing to do with his past save perhaps it seeming very ordinary to him.

>>719262176
How does that work with the beast then? Say I had a Vampire character rolled out, how many killings do I get before I don't have to risk going feral? I might be fundamentally misunderstanding the mechanic, I know a little about the Paths you can take but not really enough to answer any question I have.

>>719237839
>quests on pier
I mean theres the one where you try to find becketts friend and theres a dropsite at the end of the pier, you get to open the crime scene fence later

>>719262562
>How does that work with the beast then?
The lower your humanity, the higher risk of the beast taking over. Killing innocent people might no lower your humanity any more, but it does make you more vulnerable of the beast taking over, and whatever the beast does, you are the one that has to pay the price.

>>719237212
they do that out of vanity, not out of righteousness. if they were truly righteous, they would quit hiding in sabbat fag covens and ditch the masquerade, being the most honest kindred. however they're vain cowards. at least the nos can't hide their ugliness with flesh crafting

>>719236278
>Only the sewers are outright irredeemable.
kuei-jin temple and the hallowbrook hotel suck

>>719237447
plays the clan with almost infinite bloodpool options, runs low on blood... perhaps not the clan for you sir.

>>719262991
everything after the giovanni mansion is ass

>>719229304 (OP)
gangrel hollywood tung

>>719229304 (OP)
>Ventrue
>Hollywood (unironically, sewers included)
>none

>>719254561
Anon has been really quiet since this dropped

>>719238474
play gangrel, it's a braindead clan that won't slow you down im sure

Could an arch mage specializing in impregnating Damsel magic manage it?

>>719229304 (OP)
>gangrel (literally me)
>observatory/ werewolf country
>jeanette/damsel/fishmalk

>>719248545
I like to think that they just turn slightly allergic to garlic

>>719240746
>Demon: The Fallen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdvSD9z7A6Q

>>719262635
That's from the plus patch

Damsel is mid. I don't get why people go crazy for her.

>>719254456
susan the whore

>>719263834
she's hot and a "I can fix her" type girl
and she's a tsundere

>>719263834
She is a tomboy and extremely hot and not a slut like 99% of the other girls in the game.

>>719263834
big tits in tight t-shirt and abrasive personality

>>719263834
damn sail is sassy and sexy. you're a fag

>>719263834
based and true

>>719263834
She's not mid. She's garbage tier. Annoying communist cunt. Can't stand talking to her.

Realistically what is the lowest generation the best vampire hunter could kill?

>>719264360
Fifth gen assuming the best hunter in the world is fighting them on Christmas day with True Faith 10

>>719229304 (OP)
Gangrel
Downtown LA
Therese

>>719230296
>>719230394
>>719230798
Santa Monica and Downtown are extremely great, but even Chinatown and Hollywood have some good quests and encounters. There are later parts of the game that are clearly a lot more linear than they probably envisioned (Giovanni Mansion and the Museum/Island) but a lot of the game has very cool aesthetics and atmosphere. Just the case Troika was already going under and clearly ran out of time and funding for the later half of the game. VTMB arguably isn't good because of it's gameplay and level structure but really more just the roleplaying aspects are pretty much some of the best in the genre, which is why it's considered a "good" game

>>719264360
the best hunter wouldn't be killing any vamps that were awake to fight back

>>719263957
she isn't a tsundere she's just a hateful bitch

>>719229304 (OP)
rosa

>>719233318
>>719238629
More to say the game allows you to navigate through horror/action setpieces as the "monster" which is quite cool and probably what contributes a lot to the atmosphere, despite the somewhat random nature of it it's all very gothic

>>719264497
But the strong roleplaying disappears after san/downtown, everything that comes after is either linear battle galleries ir hubs with missions where the roleplaying and branching mission structure is just severely weaker.

>>719241494
mostly amazing movie, ending was a cop out tho

>>719264514
Even with all the tricks in the book it's not like they could kill an antediluvian.

>>719264593
The fuck is this nigger even talking about. She instantly mellows out once she feels like you're not Lacroix lapdog.

>>719264360
Hard to say
Vampires are actually surprisingly easy to kill, they're inactive for HALF of the day

I actually think an Elder would be harder to to kill than a Methuselah, since the former is politically active, surrounded with other vampires and has minions protecting him at all times, while the latter is just lying in torpor somewhere.

>>719264360
Generation is only part of the equation. Also Hunters don't want to be doing 1v1s. This ain't castlevania.

That being said, I believe the Eastern Orthodox equivalent to the Society of Leopold dusted a 4th or 5th generation Malkavian who had been around since at least the classical period.

what generation of vampire could Chunk kill, at the height of his power

Why is there no mage vampire killer? Pretty sure vampires would be erased in a week if mages started hunting them.

>>719265021
One mage might have a vendetta against vampires, but mages in general have no reason to care about them

>>719265021
Mages probably don't care + they have to deal with their own secret order of insane chuddah's trying to end the world (every other mage). Mages probably just avoid vampires by coincidence simply for being mages with some of that reality warping bullshit

>>719264825
Aren't Methuselah a lot more dangerous and somewhat resistant to death/sunlight if they awaken? Like they get woken up by the Hunters and unless there's a firing squad or a nuke strapped to that sarcophagus the vampire just blitzes the entire group?

>>719265021
cross splat doesn't make perfect sense, don't think too hard about it

>>719264656
It is a lot weaker yes but there's some intricate quests left over still with choices, even if some of the choices arguably don't really do much. I don't disagree that the game is a lot worse after downtown but there's still some rather well crafted and cool setpieces (Giovanni, Grout Mansion, Andre's pimp pad, Werewolf park) that I don't think it's fair to say the game is outright terrible past Downtown. Certainly much worse, but there are redeemable moments

Isn't the bodyguard of lacroix some unknown vampire clan from africa?

>>719263834
I've always liked Damsel and felt people kind of ignored her over VV or Jeanette. Now it's seems the winds of have changed. I don't know what happened but I'm happy with it.

Anyway, very busty, super pale, red hair. It's a powerful combo, in my book. Also she's kind of hiding it under her street clothes but again her silhouette implies pornstar built to fuck vibes when she's done lecturing on Das kapital. That's hot. Also she has one of the most expressive faces in the game.

Yukie is one of the ugliest girls in the game hands down and she is voice acted by some US voice actor dropping weeb lines. Still popular on /v/ for some reason. If she appeared in a modern western game as she is there would be daily 10 threads about how awful she is.

>>719265502
I thought he was a Gangrel

>>719265502
Not unknown. Him having a Chiropteran Marauder form and the belief that LaCroix picked him up in Africa means he's a Nagloper, which is just an African Tzimisce.

>>719241494
two thirds of the best shit ever put to screen. the most disappointing ten outta ten I've ever seen.
furthest ball drop on record.
I can't even rewatch it, it's so frustrating.

>>719265307
Don't get me wrong i'm not saying it would be easy to kill a Methuselah. It's very likely that any hunter who tries to stake one suddenly finds that their heart isn't in the right place, and weird shit starts happening even before they wake up.

But they would find it much harder to even get close to an Elder, and if they do, their vampire powers aren't that much weaker.

>>719265752
fuck i thought she was cute

>>719265752
Filtered, also her actress is Japanese American lol
Troika were actually based in Cali so they got a bunch of Asian American actors + guys like John DiMaggio

>>719265921
>>719265937
>watashi want to have revenge
Fuck outta here with this shit.
>japanese american
She obviously can't speak even an ounce of actual japanese, which is the fucking point. Her mutt race is irrelevant.

>>719266054
Moving the goalposts but ok

>>719265307
Enough fortitude can resist sunlight semi-reliably. But only Ventrue or Gangrel Methuselah are likely to have that.

The big issue with hunting Methuselah or even Elders is too many people think of it in terms of a physical altercation. Old and powerful enough vampires could easily vanish before your very eyes, core your mind out and leave you an empty husk, or force you to kneel and worship them as a god. You don't get to pull the trigger.

Going after them during the day or in torpor sounds easy, but nobody makes it to that age by not having a well defended haven. You'll have to find the location of their lair first, which can take years of tracking down their minions and/or doing archaeology and god help you if they catch wind they'll just move. Then if you have it, you attack. But it's not as easy as waltzing in there and staking an unmoving vampire. Minions, traps, hidden passages, getting to a sleeping elder is basically a D&D dungeon crawl. If they're just daysleeping you have until sundown to destroy them or it's GG. If they're in torpor, bad news, you better not spill enough blood to wake them up. Most of the challenge is getting in the same room as them, hopefully with them still disabled.

>>719266054
After more than a decade of watching subbed anime I physically cringed when doing this quest recently, coudn't they just hire some weeb for this?

>>719264360
Any vampire from almost any generation (except for the hyper mary sue first two) can be killed by a clever hunter if they are careless. Vampire hunters don't kick down your door and wake you up for battle, you know?

>>719265752
The weebshit is hilarious and memorable, however i do agree she has a weird face

>>719264360
Doesn't it depend a lot on what the vampires disciplines are, and the context? Like any human trying to take on high level Dominate without True Faith is suicide. No matter how badass he is. Elder level Fortitude or Celerity is going to make any head on fight a nightmare.

But even a 6th Generation Elder without these or where Dominate is nullified is going to be a lot more squishy to a combat focused gigachad hunter. Don't vampires basically plateau in being able to tank damage without help? And sure you can get literally strong enough to chuck cars without disciplines or slash a sword really hard, but who cares against an organized SWAT assault? Like what's an unprepared Malkavian Methuselah going to do?

>>719266054
why does she have green eyes and looks white

>>719266280
>goalpost
You are moving them by refusing to get the point. Her dialog is written by someone with no idea about japanese and her voice actress has a heavy US accent with which she pronounces the japanese words. Yukie itself is supposed to be native japanese and not able to speak english that well since she is only here to hunt a youkai. A catastrophic fail in writing and execution. 100% there would be a witch hunt on /v/ over this.

>>719265021
Mages have more important things to worry about than pale parasites that aren't really relevant in the grand scale of things.

Yukiebros, fun fact - you can see her emails in the internet cafe in Hollywood. Her friend tries to speak Engrish and it's hilarious.
Every single person I've mentioned this to has had no idea what I'm talking about which I take to mean nobody reads the computer entries in this game.

>>719265502
He's a Gorielajh

>>719266054
is it bad i like americanized asians

>>719266759
She is supposed to be native japanese.

>>719262416
>>719262627
It's done.
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1756410183763070.mp4

>>719266892
Holy fucking shit, it's better than I expected. First good AI use I have ever seen. Thanks.

>>719266892
You're a good man, kindred

>>719266587
>Her friend tries to speak Engrish and it's hilarious.

I mean, Yukie speaks Engrish too. And besides, we Yukiebros like her because she's a mortal who can keep up with neonate vampires like us.
And because of the panties.

>jeanette fake silicone tits, hard as stone
>damsel 100% organic tits with sacrificing some blood to keep them extra soft and bouncy
Damsel chads can't stop winning.

>>719266892
Yall think she fucks non vampire men?

>>719266892
what does vamp milk taste like?

>>719265756
>>719265836
>>719266694
Which one is it?

>>719267290
Salty coins

>>719266892
Outstanding, thank you anon
Hopping on the bandwagon here: could you do one of her pulling down her pants and slapping her ass?

I would have even bitter hatefuck with V5 Damsel.

>>719267221
Exclusively

>>719267221
no

only her ghoul hubby

>>719265920
True enough, an Elder would probably take an entire army of Hunters and some incredibly good timing but I feel like a Methuselah would just do some of their bullshit
>>719266315
Either way I suppose both Elders and Methuselah are hard to hunt

>>719267324
You have to provide him with a high quality base screenshot, even assuming if he is willing to do it at all. He doesn't have the game installed.

I have never actually played VTMB, I tried it a long time ago but dropped it right after the tutorial because the combat felt odd.
Should I give it another shot? Any community patches etc. that I would need?

>>719266892
Wasted on a cunt like her. Nice tits, though.

>>719245990
I wouldn't COUNT on it

>>719267435
the combat isn't odd, it's shit. the game was made in a week and all the devs were shot in the back of the head the second the time ran out. it IS worth playing despite that, yes.

>>719266504
It's a lot more complicated than that. The main advantage of generation is an increased trait cap and the ability to have more blood points and spend them quicker. So even without much in the way of physical disciplines, a 6th gen could burn a fuckload of blood to increase their physical ability to superhuman levels dumpster a once in a generation warrior. You don't "plateau" so much as you have a hard limit. Depending on the generation (with enough age to back it up) though, that limit can be pretty crazy. You can learn disciplines out of clan, provided you have a teacher.

For example, while enough gunfire could theoretically punch through even a methuselah with fortitude, we're talking several minutes of sustained, unanswered fire. Not something that will ever happen. And if the prescient, capable of going invisible, inhumanly perceptive Malkavian Methuselah gets caught in front of a firing squad... I have to ask how they lasted this long in the first place.

Should I play Redemption before Bloodlines or does it not matter at all? I know they are separate.

>>719267780
its not really an rpg, its more of a dungeon crawler with characters

>>719245990
in terms of gameplay
maybe

but in aesthetics, story, and characters
no Y2K Goth should've been the sequel's artstyle not dishonored shit

>>719266892
excellent. now do velvet

>>719267894
>story
I don't get this meme that people think VTMB had a good story. If VTMB 2 will have two equal factions it will already have a much superior story.

why do all the pin-up posters you can get of the girls look worse than their actual models?

>>719267780
It doesn't matter at all. They're not connected.

>>719268000
le dishonest argument moment

>>719267968
Disgusting pic, please don't do this one.

There is zero chance Bloodlines 2 is going to be good. Zero. Quit talking about it.

>>719268000
It was good
you're just a pretentious contrarian faggot

>>719262072
This but unironically

>>719268018
Because it's concept or fanart, the quest is restored content from the unofficial patch.

>>719266892
This makes any chud a fanatical tankie.

>>719268105
Le emotional argument moment

There is absolutely no dishonesty in my argument. VTMB1 story is mid as fuck and suffers immensely from the Camarilla being almost entirely represented by Lacroix, someone who is obviously entirely using you the entire time, not cairng a shred about you and sending you on suicide missions while all the charismatic good guys are anarchs, where the leader literally multiple times saves your life and is entirely selfless. If that is not immensely poor writing that damages the story heavily I don't know what is.
>>719268140
Nope, fuck off retard.

>>719268000
Trips wasted

>>719268113
Don't tell me what to do i'll talk whatever i want

>>719242025
>Vampires don't have real feelings, they just echo what they did when they were humans if they have high humanity
Vampires objectively still have souls and emotions they're just cursed to lose that if they stray too far from their mortal life as a vampire. That's the whole point of the Beast

>>719266054
it made me kek that they basically did the chicano thing where they write characters to throw in random spanish words

>>719268391
*Dominates you*
What now, neonate?

>>719267390
>Either way I suppose both Elders and Methuselah are hard to hunt

Speaking from a mix of lore familiarity and play experience, the achilles heel of Elders and Methuselah is finding out what makes them tick and exploiting it. Which is easier for other vampires, who aren't usually kill on sight, to figure out. Even then it's a dangerous game.

Hunters need to either get a lucky opportunity, or leverage overwhelming numbers. Even then you don't wanna zerg the powerful vampire, you want to still use strategy and abuse the sun weakness as much as you can. It's why the Masquerade is so important. It'll never be perfectly iron-clad, but the more people who think vampires are made up bullshit means there are fewer Hunters and thus, less weight of numbers against you if circumstance or a mistake puts you in their sights.

>>719229304 (OP)
Nosferatu
Sewers
Fat Larry

>>719268432
Nope, fuck you
*takes ur letter opener and slashes ur throat then sticks it in ur back*
i will play vtmb2

>>719266892
would be hotter if she looked more pissed off

>>719266892
Amazing
Here's a VV pic if you want to make one of her too

>>719268423
Chicanos unironically do just have random Spanish words they throw out and speak shitty Spanglish, trying to portray someone from Japan speaking shit Japanese is something that relies on non Japanese speakers playing the game

>>719267835
>>719267780
damn I was hoping it was similarly rpg'esqued as Bloodlines. I guess the craving for VtM rpgs can only be satisfied with the text games now. How can I play Redemption though? Emulation or is it on GoG?

>>719266892
Hey, do this.

>>719267780
It doesn't matter, but you should play it because it's also good

>>719268545
*Inserts vtmb2 floppy disk*
*It blows up*
*Jack far away from there with his mummy buddy*
"Too bad about the kid"

>>719268627
its on gog and steam