Thread 719232694

why were reverse swept wings even attempted when there is so many other problems to solve in jet design?

she's still there
waiting for one last flight

>>719232804
Man this reads like old /k/, I'll be surprised if it's modern made

>>719232694 (OP)
you fight 10 of them in ace combat 0 if you go soldier route

>>719232804
Implessive

>>719232753
better agility supposedly. But structurally it adds weight and is still constrained by angle of attack and stall speed while thrust vectoring isn't, and if you add enough vectored thrust even a brick can dogfight.

but low speed agility is kind of irrelevant nowadays compared to muh low RCS.

>>719232954
They're surprisingly rare in Ace Combat, really. It's weird enough to practically be designed for that series, but there are very few notable characters that use them. There's Gault like you said, and that's about it. Grabacr/Ofnir maybe? Except not only are they kinda losers, but they have a whole bunch of planes so it's not really associated with them.

>>719233246
don't scream and rage use them in ac 7?

>>719233284
Oh yeah, them too. Except they're also losers.
At least it always has really good stats so it's fun to fly.

>>719232937
>I'll be surprised if it's modern made
it isn't, it's a (shitty) rewrite of /o/'s 500J CoolGuy pasta

>>719232804
>国//translate.weibo?error003g&server-congguo1/ ?
kek

Blended-wing-body planes are gonna become real bros...

>>719232937
its a variation of the chink rifle pasta

>Comanche cancelled
>FARA Raider-X/Invictus cancelled too
how do helicopter fans even cope?

>>719232694 (OP)
more games need sea planes

>>719234078
oh shit I'm sorry

>>719234124
>attack autogyros
Unfathomably based

>>719232937
go back

Osprey 2.0 and base Raider maybe happening though.

>>719232804
when i first saw this plane i thought it was kinda cringe and rectangular but i gotta say it's growing on me

>>719234078
there's that brew barons game thats totally not just aping porco rosso's aesthetic but from what I hear the gameplay leaves much to be desired and you probably need to turn down the bloom

>>719232753
because it looks cool

>>719232804
/k/ is so fucking based, no wonder ziggers hate them

>>719233284
What's funny about that is Scream's and Rage's Berkuts are mentioned specifically for their rarity
><< Berkuts? Erusea doesn't have many of those... >>

>>719233538
i don't understand why it took so long for planes to get sleek looking blended bodywork like the current 5th and 6th gens. Did people just not care about rcs in the past? Surely shaping material the way you want is an easy problem compared to all the other problems you're solving with the plane like the engines and so on.

>>719232804
>Quantum stealth abilities with option for... rice cooker

the soviets loved tubes

>>719234556
Having weird contours means the plane becomes more expensive to maintain and get parts for, since segment 320-A can ONLY be replaced by another exact measurement segment 320-A part, instead of the whole cabin being made of the same panels in a tube. Commercial planes dont give a fuck about marginal savings in aerodynamic at the cost of elevated maintenance.

>>719232753
Because it looks awesome

>>719234050
>helicopter fans
Those exist?

>>719234997
It's just a Focke-Wulf Ta 183

>>719232804
I'm too dumb for this shit.

>>719235875
I hope they do a similar mission for AC 8

>>719234556
rcs reduction has been pursued since the 50s, old techniques were just cruder and less effective. airplane body shape is a constant process of compromise between conflicting needs like aerodynamics and rcs and available materials, required range, etc. look up the hopeless diamond and the rcs reduction techniques used on the a-12 and kingfish

>>719235875
That's not Geopelia.
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>>719236447
that's some fine XR-900 fanart Anon

>>719233446
>>719233567
Cheers
>>719234269
I haven't been there in over a decade
>current absolute state of /k/

>>719234504
>t. redditor tourist jerking off Russia Lite
Okay, little man. Let me guess, you think your basedjak-beard is "based" too? Kekw.

>>719232694 (OP)
Why are the wings backwards

>>719238047
The plane gets more maneuverable (and more unstable) when the center of lift is more forward

>>719234050
The only cool heli that's ever been made is the Mi-24. Everything else is irrelevant

>>719233402
>here's your glass cockpit, bro

>>719238456
>increases angle of attack 3 degrees too far
>main rotor collides with tail rotor
oops

>>719238047
the air gets confused. some is taken by surprise and acts the usual way: going from the plane nose to the tail and so the plane is lifted upwards.
the rest of the air turns away from the wings and pulls the plane with it. the design is very smart

>>719239259
It's an acquired taste, sir. Unforgettable like your first kiss.

>>719235875
The time limit was very tight and I failed it once because of that.
Also re-entry was very bullshit because you must take a very specific angle and speed within a short time span otherwise you instantly explode.

>>719239525
well I suppose that's fair, since my first kiss I had braces on and undoubtedly was fucking terrible despite the emotional investment.

>>719242974
what was the use case?

>>719233072
>>719232753

Biggest factor why they never went far past experiments is that they tend to get bent and wear out way faster thanks to going against the grain or whatever you call the physics/aeronautical term of that .

So like all things price is the biggest factor, not ability

>>719236228
I still find it endlessly hilarious that stealth as a concept was invented by the Soviets, and the Soviet military command took one look at the research and said "Useless" because they didn't have the computers to simulate it forcing the researcher to publish his works publically... Which was immediately found by CIA assets, sent back to the US allowing the US to skulljump the Soviets eternally on stealth technology which they still have no recovered from. F-35 notwithstanding, I still think the YF-32 should have won. Hell, the YF-23 should have won because it was stealthier but that's neither here nor there

>>719234504
Kek, an instant malding message from a zigger followed. Well played.

>>719232804
kek, my sides

I wish military planes looked as cool as pic related. I mean the Tu-160 counts a bit I guess.

But still. Growing up we were fucking hyped for the future with the F117 and Concorde. And got the worst outcome possible in terms of aesthetics. Damn you physics, the bane of all things cool

>>719244435
If it makes you feel any better the overland supersonic ban was recently lifted in the US a month ago because of Trump which gives back the market that these would have thrived on thanks to developments in quieting sonic booms with various tech. If anything we may be on the precipice of a new supersonic renaissance, though they will be mostly smaller passenger jets closer to small regional airliners but travelling at speeds that make continental travel crazy fast.

>>719243629
grug asked this when fire was invented. You needn't not worry, my friend.

>>719244435
Forgot to attach a picture >>719245438 but obviously it doesn't share the same level of cool but it's still somewhere between the Concord and 2707. Shame they turned some of the special airports built for SSTs into other things including one that got turned into Alligator Alcatraz... Though I figure these smaller jets can probably land on smaller runways so maybe that makes the need for the supersized SST airports obsolete.

>>719243629
Same basic idea as most swing-wing jets, just simplifying it down to one moving part rather than a handful. Supposedly it worked pretty well.

>>719244435
Handley Page Victor is still the bet looking military aircraft

>>719234504
I don't post on it but it's my favourite board to read. It feels mostly like old 4ch and most people there are respectful.

>dream of dog fighting American fascists over Hawaii
>reality is watching autonomous drones

>>719245902
I see, thank you.
You'd think that the wins being asymmetrical would cause some weird turbulence making it unstable but the fuck do I know.

>>719246584
AC0 makes me wish for a crossover with Fate.

>>719234997
As a kid I thought the things in its "mouth" were rockets that could shoot out.

>>719248661
I thought they could be pushed and retracted, as in when flying supersonic they would go forward until the entire front is covered and when flying subsonic they would retract like in the pictures.
It was a misunderstanding from a junior easy build Airfix kit for the MiG-21 that I had as a child.

>>719233072
>if you add enough vectored thrust even a brick can dogfight.
Only if you add thrusters directly below the plane, like a VTOL plane. Vectored thrust like on an F-22 of Su-35 only helps with rotating the plane, not turning.

>>719244202
He sniffed the air, caught a whiff of greased keyboards and Dorito dust, and just couldn't resist rageposting. Classic zigger reaction time levels too-record-breaking.