Thread 719235006

Why didn't you niggers tell me lvl 9 quest are so fun?

is the game hard enough now?

>>719235185
yeah, endgame Seregios, Lagi, Arkveld, Gore among others are a great challenge

>>719235006 (OP)
>playing Milds
LMAO

>>719235006 (OP)
Because Wilds isn't fun.
Putting aside the SHIT performance on PC, the game has fundamental design philosophy issues.
It's lost the friction that was the core of Monster Hunter.
In older titles, the monsters fucked you up, so you learned their attacks, you waited for openings, you learned what parts are weak spots and targeted them specifically.
In Wilds? None of this applies.
You don't NEED to prepare, you can just grab herbs and honey on the fly
You don't NEED to actually find the monster, learn it's habitat and behaviour the auto-run chicken takes you straight to it.
You don't NEED to target its weak spots, you make the weak spots yourself with Wounds
You don't NEED to farm monsters over and over, mastering their move set because you'll have enough materials after one or two hunters for a full set and weapons.
You don't NEED to learn the map. Ore and herb nodes are right there on the minimap for you, the taxi chicken will take you straight to them.

I love monster hunter, I've played since PS2. World is one of my most played games, it was more casual than the older titles but had just enough friction for it to be accessible but still recognisably MH.
Wilds isn't a MH game, it's a boss rush simulator.

>>719235185
meh
By historical MH standards, no, it barely even competes with MHFU low rank village.

>>719235705
kek delusional

>>719235680
World with more friction and no gimmicks would've been perfect.
Rise with more friction and hunter gauge and styles instead of bing bugs and switch skills would've been perfect.

>>719235746
LR Tigrex village urgent in MHFU still presents a greater challenge than 9 star missions, except for maybe like Gore and Lagi. But even then, if you suck enough you can just spam easily craftable max potions really quickly and go back to base to stock up on 10 more of them. You also have cat revives, rocks to take out 20-40% of the monster life + free knock down, mounting for another free knockdown, blue wounds for another free knockdown, wound pops at any point for a free flinch...

>>719235776
>styles instead of bing bugs and switch skills
Hunter styles and switch skills are effectively the same thing. The only difference is switch skills get doled out gradually so you actually have to learn to play the weapon in its “default” setup first before you start ruining it with crazy shit. We had so many retards complain about not knowing which style to pick in GU only to pick something that made certain weapons unplayable and then never touch it again.

>>719235897
This.
At no point in MH Wilds was I filtered by anything.
I got filtered hard by FU's Tigrex, I struggled with some world monsters at first but nothing compared to FU's tigrex. Frostfang Barioth from Iceborne can go fuck himself too.


But wilds? Nothing, I don't think I've ever tiple carted.

>>719235680
>You don't NEED to prepare, you can just grab herbs and honey on the fly
this is every game wtf
>You don't NEED to actually find the monster, learn it's habitat and behaviour the auto-run chicken takes you straight to it.
nigger you literally just looked up a wiki and see where is spawns, the auto run is the least offensive addition, there was no decision making in getting to a monster before and there isn't now
>You don't NEED to target its weak spots, you make the weak spots yourself with Wounds
wounds barely appear now against the harder monsters and your team mates blow up them like retards
>You don't NEED to farm monsters over and over, mastering their move set because you'll have enough materials after one or two hunters for a full set and weapons.
this is actually fair, the one instance it isn't like this in wilds is zohshia with its wing arm mats and lagi equipment needing like 4 gems which are all a 1% drop rates, the rest of the gear is pretty easy to make
>You don't NEED to learn the map. Ore and herb nodes are right there on the minimap for you, the taxi chicken will take you straight to them.
this is a good change too since you'd just look at a wiki outside the game to find them in older games
at least list actual fucking problems people have like focus mode dumb retard

>>719235984
Cooldowns will always be inferior to gauges you build from actually successfully hitting the monster, even worse when one of the bing bugs is endemic for whatever reason.

>>719235680
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>>719235984
Too many styles were just too fucking shit for too many weapons. It was the problem of forcing generalized things onto unique weapons. Switch skills are way superior as they are all specifically built for said weapon. Even the worst ones are just mediocre at worst as they still consider their weapon type with their design and have some intent. Also way more combination potential.
GU also didnt care to explain the subtle differences between styles for weapons. Many would straight up get different attacks or dash types.

As far as Im concerned both hunter arts and bug skills are fucking gay and have no real place in MH.

>>719236051
all line by line quote posts are dogshit. zero exceptions.

>>719235006 (OP)
>implying /v/tendo has enough money to buy a console/pc that can run this game
>implying /v/ plays the game they shit on all day

praying for a bird flu outbreak in the expansion

>>719236051
>Uhhh I had to use a WIKI! So being spoonfed and just giving me everything all at once is fine actually, more slop please capcom!

>>719236010
I developed some of the strangest strategies in FU in order to progress without wasting mega potions / max potions or my sanity. I found ways to sneak in longsword and GS draw attacks during Tigrexs crack head enraged state, which looked like it had 0 safe openings. I had to sneak an attack in while he turns around half way, aim for where the head would be, and then roll as he begins to finish the second turn towards me, putting me behind the opposite arm. Then I had to keep track of how many times I did that to find out if the next hit would headflinch, then I would time GS full charges for his turn around.
Once I upgraded my GS I noticed that every lvl 3 charge was a guaranteed flinch, so I could begin experimenting with timing a GS charge in all sorts of places, like figuring out when I can start preparing an attack while he jumps back roars and enrages, because he always charges after. If I backed up a few steps and began charging towards the end of his roar, I would always hit the head and flinch as he ran towards me, if he lept I would be out of the way from backing up, and if he did a rock blast my GS attack would bring my hitbox low enough to not get hit by rocks. Felt fucking amazing finding that shit out by trial and error. I also have a strat vs Ceanataur since I had to farm it, where I just mostly use spinning GS attacks from specific angles which gives me time to out maneuver and also roll through all of Ceanataurs attacks. Against Khezu I found perfect spots with the longsword where I can begin poking his head with a light attack into a spirit attack while he was AoE spaming over and over again.
These are things that just don't happen in new monhun and I'm really glad I went back and gave MHFU a chance, even if shit like Green Plesioth, vespoids, cephalos and bullfangos makes me want to throw my controller through a wall.

>>719235680
Most of what you said about preparation and general knowledge apply but
>In older titles, the monsters fucked you up, so you learned their attacks, you waited for openings, you learned what parts are weak spots and targeted them specifically. In Wilds? None of this applies.
This absolutely does apply to the current endgame. The monsters absolutely will kick your shit in if you don't know their openings and apply proper positioning. The sad thing is we had to reach endgame for this to apply, but it absolutely is there.

Prepfags outed themselves as posers when they collectively howled at MHR adding an optional prep phase at the start of a quest if they were too casual to handle the supposedly easiest hunts in the series.

>>719236629
>The monsters absolutely will kick your shit in if you don't know their openings
and yet we have perfect guards, focus mode, wounds and blue wounds, cat revives and heals, mantles, environmental knockdowns, infinite traps, infinite flashes, double moxie, infinite heals, mounts...
Do you have any idea how many normalfags play wilds, don't understand any monsters attack patterns, and have no problem slogging through 9 star? These are the same faggots that would've been forced to get good or be filtered in titles before World. Even in World I was trying to explain to a friend that Kirin had an exact attack pattern and bolt pattern based on where your standing, and he was staring at me like I had 3 heads.
basically you might be trying to not get hit and have fun doing it, but the game is also easy enough that you can just get hit over and over and win anyway through brute force and cheese

>>719235006 (OP)
>Did like 50 9* quests
>Not a single 9* charm
I'm not going to chase something like that.

>>719236949
there is no rarity 9 charm in the game

>>719236949
I hope you mean rarity 8 charm because there are no rarity 9 charms, anon.

>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>Million tiers of tempered monsters so you are forced to fight the same monsters over and over again
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>719236051
this retarded nigger buys microtranactions and defends corpo slop

>>719236851
I get your points and I agree with you since I've been playing since Freedom 1. I also miss so many things from the previous MonHuns that they'd be too numerous to expand upon. But at the very least I can say that I'm having fun with the current endgame of Wilds even though there is a built in easy mode with the abundance of options.

I also understand that "just ignore x thing bro" speaks volumes about game design, but the fights themselves are great.

>>719236949
anon, I...

>>719235006 (OP)

Does anyone feel like all of your options for how to use your weapons are kinda the same? With hammer, You basically always wanna do your charged moves and they all kinda do the same thing. Same range, same kinda charge times, same movement... You basically either do the level 2 charge or charge your other moves up to max and they kinda do comparable damage and take the same amount-ish of time to charge

I'm trying out bow and that feels the same. Like I just wanna do damage upkeep so I'm just rotating between dodging and attacking, then using the odd power-move when the opportunity comes up

>>719237063
Yeah I'm having fun too, but the game is barely a 3/10 by Monster Hunter standards, and maybe a 7/10 by general vidya standards (1/10 while playing through the dogshit terrible low rank story campaign which is mindnumbingly braindead and offensive)

>>719237169
I'm blasting my ass off dancing circles around the monster without sheathing my greatsword

I really don't like the timing based stuff to do with the hunting horn recitals. I can't get it right and it doesn't feel right. I think HH was perfect in iceborne. I also don't like the echo bubbles because if I press R2 + X it just makes me enter a recital, so it feels weird. I guess I'm only supposed to use it after a different attack input to queue that action.

>>719237393
I wanna try GS but I really don't like how it's all about getting to TCS now. The old GS just doesn't exist anymore. What I used to love about it was draw strikes and the hit and run playstyle and it isn't a thing anymore.

How is IG in this? I hear you basically play with focus mode on constantly

>>719235006 (OP)
Because the retarded devs decided to add monsters that actually make use of the game's mechanics only after 6 months of literally nothing and letting the game rot away

>>719237545
IG and SA have been absolutely murdered.
IG is claw grip perma focus mode. You spam a single charged attack that also offsets, then do a hyper armour special super attack afterwards, and then collect bugs to do it again. The rest of the moveset is now pointless.
SA has the same problem where you're doing nothing but trying to spam a single big special and 2 other attacks that generate gauge for the hyper armour special.

>>719235705
Every single person who difficultywanks the MHFU village is a Worldsperm who has never actually touched the game, unless you're literally retarded and actually craft weapons the average monster won't last 10 minutes barring obvious slogfests like Gaoren or Lao

>>719237481
Wilds GS is a bit less braindead than Rice and World GS, though it is more offset focused than it is really TCS focused. TCS doesn't even do that much damage compared to the first or second charge.

>>719237545
You have to hold like 4 different buttons at once constantly, it's like it was made for a fucking octopus

>>719237694


Yeah, that's what I thought. The series has changed so much but so gradually that it feels like a ship of Theseus/boiled frogs scenario. With all this aerial bullshit going on with the seikret, no wonder the IG has been devalued.

Focus mode is shit, too. I think wounds are kinda cool, but they should just be the little red scrape things we see and we can target them for extra damage or a topple when they burst - I don't like all the fucking particle effects in general, so I don't want more red glowing shit on the monster when I go into focus mode.

>>719236629
What >>719236851 said. There is no reason to be fearful in Wilds like you absolutely HAD to be in Tri, 4 and 4U, GU, and World.

Hell, the Great Maccao in G and GU were absolute filters for so many hunters that iirc the return rate on brand new G and GU game (that weren't digitally purchased) was somewhere between 15-20%. Filtered by the fuggin TUTORIAL monster.

The "fight" in Wilds doesn't even begin until 9-star quests, and even then it's a fucking cakewalk for non mouth-breathing retard who can plainly see attack patterns

SnS is still chill in this game to be fair

>>719237875
>unironically implying World had any shred of difficulty before Alatreon
LMAOing at your existence, you literal immigrants will never fit in

>>719237756
The point was never that village MHFU was difficult. Monsters die in like 8 GS full charges, sometimes less.
The point was that, despite village LR being easy in prior games, they were still harder and offered more friction than modern MH games right into G rank.
Also crafting your first green sharpness weapon also required some grinding and friction, whereas in nu-MH you pretty much upgrade a weapon from 1 or 2 fights and the ores you found long the way. Most of World, Rise and Wilds I just kept LR armor the entire time and had no issue right into the end of the game. Imaging doing MHFU village hub with your trash LR gear.

How are the ranged weapons? I'm trying Bow out and it seems ok but kinda complex, with a shit loads of different moves and lots of movement tech, what with the perfect dodges and that aerial shot move you can do.

>>719235006 (OP)
>make it so like only 3 of the several 9 star monsters are worth hunting since they give the most rewards
thanks capcom, very cool

>>719237950
The point was that 9 star monsters are easier than Low Rank FU, which is blatantly wrong Worldtranny speak and you would know if you actually played it
Not reading the rest of your post, slit your throat

>>719237950

this. The game was more unwilling to let go of it's rewards and grant them to the player and those rewards felt like big milestones. I didn't upgrade my armor a single time in the entire time I played through Wilds' story.

Also, the previous games had a nice little village that was compact and had all the NPCs in one area. You upgrade the farm and other facilities, do some minigames and get new stuff. Now, everything is spread out through a million gay fucking shanty town camps or useless villages with no facilities that you'd never visit if you didn't have to for the ONE fucking service they provide, instead of having a comfy base.

>>719238001
They just are m8, the average normalfag grinding charms right now would be absolutely hard walled by Tigrex. My "Worldvet" friend who beat Alatreon and Fatalis could barely even handle LR Gore Magala in 4U with me WHILE I was carrying him.
See
>>719237875
Modern MH design does not require you to learn the fight. You can now just get hit over and over again and eventually win. I like to call things DSPing a monster, because Dark Syde Phil did the same thing in every souls game he played. Walk up to enemy, attack, if health gets low heal. DSPing was impossible in games before World.

>>719238142
Speaking of DSP, did he ever An Hero or what? Dude was a fuckin disgrace to the community

>>719236445

I enjoyed reading this anon, thank you. I remember struggling against barroth for ages in tri (my first game before I went back to FU). I never struggled in Wilds.

I can honestly say I don't actually know any of the monster's attack patterns whatsoever except for the old ones that I already knew.

>>719237950
you're correct kind of, yes FUs difficulty comes from how prepared you are. the game will be pretty hard if you do the bare minimum but if you put in the effort to grind then 90% of the game is piss easy including g rank also flash bombs are literally broken

9 star monsters in wilds expects you to be fully prepared and geared and even then its still hard, this shit feels like g rank in a high rank game tbqh.

>>719238204
Looks like he's still alive and kicking going by the farms thread.

>>719238269
>this shit feels like g rank in a high rank game tbqh.
Because it is, both you and the monsters have G-rank values and Gore Magala has more hp than Fatalis
When G-rank comes you'll get monsters with like 2000 million HP

>only one real update left (FF corpo slop will never count)
>game's reputation is still in the gutter
Surely they must realise that no one will buy the expansion unless they force an "engoodening" right?

>>719238678
we're getting at least 1 more update, maybe 2

>>719239580
If they're not fucking retarded they'll do a bonus update as a full on dogeza style apology after the supposed performance fix like Sunbreak did with Primordial Malzeno

>>719239841
performance update is confirmed tu4

>>719235006 (OP)
Toxotransmosis moment.

>>719238678
The expansion will be the engoodening and retards will eat that shit up. Screenshot this post.

>>719241862
Yeah and the fact that they're unfucking it on the supposed FINAL update seems like PR suicide so they better sprinkle in an extra update

>>719235006 (OP)
Wilds actually manages to run worse than UE5 games on my old ass system. I thought UE5 was the big bad as far as engines go when it comes to optimization and making the game playable, but Wilds has to look actually hideously bad, unplayably bad to come close to "good" frames. It's insane to me that RE Engine attempting open world is actually the worst optimized engine on the market for older specs.

>>719242424
It really does seem unfinished considering we're almost on tu3 and it feels like it's only now starting to pick up pace

>>719242294
iceborne engoodened world but most worldsperms hated it

>>719244239
do you retards have any idea of what is actually going on or do you just regurgitate whatever shit you see posted here with no second thought?

Even the 8* were okay hard enough but all the other mechanics of the game makes it not very enjoyable to go through a hunt.
First game in the series I feel this way

>>719235006 (OP)
But are you having a blast?

>9* quests are h-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDF9625EUTE
ACK

>>719247983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTJt9hifKwo
This the "ultimate challenge" worldniggers fawn over?

>>719248146
Ah yes the snowman glitch that works 100% everytime via a mod shared on their discord. Devas already been exposed and blacklisted from all speedrun outlets and his career died a year ago. Poor fella.

>>719250173
>actually being caught on speedrunner drama
Holy tranny

>>719250538
I mean a video was made that got millions of views. The algorithm called me and I listened. But yeah I am a speedtranny