Thread 719236667

The MGS game that actually deserves a proper remake, not held back by the fucking playshitstation portable.

>MGSV controls and gameplay
>Overhauled level design with bigger maps
>Improved enemy AI and boss fights
>Fully 3D cutscenes
>Fully explorable motherbase

Like Phantom Pain but with co-op and no Open World meme, imagine the kino.

>>719236667 (OP)
>MGSV controls and gameplay
Even that one requirement is impossible for Konami

LOL

>>719236667 (OP)
that would actually get me to buy. hopefully it wouldnt look as ugly as mgs delta

>>719236667 (OP)
It wouldn't need a remake if they had just made MGSV good in the first place. I remember people hating on Phantom Pain because "it's like PW eww". God, I wish TP were even half as good as PW.

>>719237062
They deliberately removed a bunch of MGSV tech due to Delta leaving the level design unchanged, honestly they should have rebuilt the whole game to actually work with MGSV controls

>>719236667 (OP)
This is definitely too much for Konami to do but I'd love a version of Peace Walker that just restructures the campaign to function like a normal Metal Gear game and you use the menu to check on your base whenever you want instead.
I remember there was some interview for MGS5 where they talked about how you could do the whole game without returning to Mother Base if you wanted and I think that'd be a good way to structure a PW remake since canonically that's what Snake does in that game, just get rid of the missions and loadouts and shit and have the whole thing structured like MGS4 with the different chapters.

>>719237524
>I remember there was some interview for MGS5 where they talked about how you could do the whole game without returning to Mother Base if you wanted

That's kind of in the game? You can't play the entire game without returning to motherbase, but a lot of missions let you skip the chopper ride if you start them from free roam. A mission briefing box will appear in the open world instead. Then you can complete the mission by leaving the area on land instead of in helicopter and stay in the open world. Most of the story related missions force you to enter by helicopter though

I wonder if some key members of the Mother Base grew more attached to V than Big Boss. I wonder if they ever discovered they were two different people.

I wonder if Kojima even thought about that.

>>719238390
Kaz knows at the end of TPP and says Big Boss can go to hell and that he'll stand by Venom instead. Also I think DD soldiers will have a new voiceline after you beat the game and visit Motherbase, something like "I don't care who you are, you'll always be the boss to me"

>>719236667 (OP)
this would be kino

>>719236667 (OP)
Too much work, just rerelease the same game but in UE5

>>719236667 (OP)
PW is an amazing game and I made my best friend plaaying it in public

Why don't you retards ever mention portable ops? If any mgs game deserves a remake it's this one. At least peace walker has MGS V controls, and a plethora of other cool things to make it a fun and entertaining experience.

>>719236667 (OP)
I think you are fucking retarded, but besides that literally no one cares about Piss Walker. Everything about it sucks.

>>719236667 (OP)
this game was such garbage

>>719236667 (OP)
Pisswalker is pure dogshit only enjoyed by obvious retards like >>719239809
>>719240410
Portable OPs was good and doesn't need a remake, reminder that Kojima's son played one of these games and it was not Pisswalker, the game made for him

>>719237524
>I'd love a version of Peace Walker that just restructures the campaign to function like a normal Metal Gear game

this

I hate the gay mission shit they went with in this game and in MGSV. I just want a real game, not some weird episode shit

If Phantom Pain had co-op, I would still be playing it to this day.

>>719240597
>Portable OPs was good and doesn't need a remake
Literally kill yourself

>>719240597
No, the games Kojima's son liked were Monster Hunter games, which is why PW uses MHFU's engine, has grinding mechanics, spongy bosses and even s collaboration with Monster Hunter.

>>719240410
portable ops was too clunky and annoying, pw streamlining a lot of its systems and ideas was a good thing

>>719240750
>this game is not a real game because you can select levels
>the real games were these shitty movies with 40 minute cutscenes
This is why MGSfags are the most retarded fanbase ever, they simply hate videogames.
Glad Delta is a thing so that Metal Gear's atrocious design gets exposed to the whole world.

>>719240892
It literally does.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SvePtu07XVY

peace walker bosses co op in the fox engine would be litty

>takes them 5 years to recreate mgs3 in UE
>man I want to have an entirely new PW where everything is made from the ground up
Why are you so fucking disabled?

>>719241512
Why did it take them half a decade to port MGS3 to UE5? Its not even a proper remake.

>>719236667 (OP)
>Fully 3D cutscenes
No, fuck off, comic book style cutscenes were fucking great.

>>719241512
Most of the work for Delta was building a new team and training them

PW is the moment the series turned to irredeemable shit. Complete casualization with no difficulty modes except easy and fun bosses replaced with damage number go up grind.

>>719241874
It was designed to be played on the PSP, the easier difficulty made sense because the controls were ASS

>>719241874
>the moment the series became shit is when MGS became actual videogames and not shit movies

>>719241032
>>719241135
Kojima's son played Portable Ops and saw Pisswalker as the trash it was, cope

>>719242273
No he didnt, Kojima said he had never played an MGS game before, that all he played was Monster Hunter.

>>719241981
Meanwhile fromsoftware ported the hardest armored core game to psp, gimped the controls and then made it even harder on top of that.

>>719241997
>NOOOOO MGS IS ONLY GOOD AS A HALLWAY TPS
>STEALTH?? NOOOOO THAT'S TOO HARD
retard

>>719240410
This game really mind broke kojimbo, he remade it twice with the second one getting him fired and still trying with death stranding to top this forgotten PSP gem. If this wasn't stuck on the PSP and emulators it would be a classic because people would have actually played it and not just watched let's plays and video essays about it.

>>719242317
https://www.engadget.com/2008-04-02-psp-audience-is-important-and-new-for-mgs-director-kojima.html
Cope.

>>719242317
Dont bother, most MGSfags in /v/ are schizophrenic millennials obsessed with videogame plots (even though there's not a single game with good writing) who went insane when MGSV turned out to be a videogame instead of a movie.

>>719242341
They are stealth games, just ones with controls that werent made by a brain damaged monkey and that dont get interrupted every 5 minutes to deliver another half an hour long cutscene.

>>719242409
Cope

>>719240410
Sucks that this game tends to be memoryholed despite being the progenitor DNA to the gameplay of both MGSV and PW
I've had countless hours on this and was my first online experience in videogames

>>719242478
>Pisswalker
>stealth game
So you were bad at it? Its a headshot simulator and designed around damage sponge bosses

>>719242409
It's actually gen X burnouts and generally Z posers. Millennials are the ones who shit all over kojima for the MGS2 bait and switch and adore snake eater for its gameplay and complexity of choice.

>>719242350
The whole soldier pokemon shit was literally Kojima's idea to begin with and he told his team to make a game like that, he just expanded on the idea with PW and MGSV

>>719242540
>Its a headshot simulator
Oh, as opposed to MGS2, 3 and 4 I suppose

>>719242490
Dont care, is still true, MGSfags are a fanbase ravaged by the fact that some people obsessed with Metal Gear's atrocious plot and lore wanted another shitty movie with terrible writing.

Props to his son by the way, sounds like he steered Kojima on the right path to make Peace Walker and MGSV, the only Metal Gears worth playing.

>>719242589
>NOOO NOOOOOO KOJIMBO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA
>DO *NOT* STEAL AWAY LA CREATIVIDADS CREDIT
this is like the faggots who think Kojima created ZoE

>>719242553
>adoring MGS3 for its "gameplay"
So exactly what I mean, people who just want shitty movies.
Glad Delta is a thing so that its atrocious game structure gets exposed to everyone.

>>719242615
>sounds like he steered Kojima on the right path to make Peace Walker
His son didn't play it because his son could smell the shit a mile away

>>719241728
No they're not. it's ass

>>719236667 (OP)
piss walker and pant-on pain are insanely overrated turds, Ground Zeroes is fine

>>719242608
>I like Pisswalker because its easy
Fixed that for you so you're being honest and not baiting like a retard

>>719242350
>it would be a classic
And this is why you MGSfags are the joke of the videogame community.
None of your garbage franchise are good, its all shitty movies and shitty Ubislop derivatives with awful gameplay.

I think the worst part is when one of you fags told me MGS1 was "genius" and all I got was one of the worst stealth games I've ever played, with half of it being backtracking and one of the dumbest plots ever, featuring retardation like "soldier genes".
Fucking Call of Duty has better stories than this crap.

>>719242721
Source?

>>719242701
Snake eater introduced:
cqc
Camouflage
Survival elements like hunger meter and injuries
Multiple ways to impact enemy troops like destroying food and munitions stashes
Multiple ways to interact with bosses with unique ways to eliminate them
Hidden elements in cut scenes like first person view adding player interaction to an otherwise passive waste of time
And so much more, you're an idiot.

>>719242798
Ground Zeroes is better to you millennials because the cutscene to gameplay ratio is closer to the garbage movies that preceeded it.
The peak of MGS is modded MGSV, specifically modded to include co-op, Camp Omega, custom levels, heli and foot patrols roaming the world, realistic vision for guards, increased enemy count, and armored reinforcements.

>>719242657
I was his idea, its simply fact, and Portable Ops just ported the MGS3 engine on to PSP, its impressive that they got it to run but that's basically it, controls like shit on the PSP and isn't very fun to play

>>719236667 (OP)
MGS vol 2 when
Include ac!d and ac!d 2

>>719242998
And none of that prevented it from being a clunky, underbaked mess where half the game is cutscenes.

>>719243104
Considering the MGS1, 2 and 3 remasters didnt even reach 1000 players on release, I wonder what ACID would top out at, maybe 15 players?

>>719236667 (OP)
the only thing i REALLY want out of a peace walker remake is unified environments. most maps were extremely small, even by metal gear standards (and most maps were incredibly small in 1-3. slightly larger in 4, but not many of them). if they unified most of the maps, the game would be much more enjoyable.

>>719236667 (OP)
Konami is not confident or talented enough to do any of those things without Kojima, if it got a remake you'd get the exact same game but with a shitty UE5 coat of paint.

>>719242860
Here's your pity (You)

>>719236667 (OP)
Peace Walker and MGSV should be unified into one single game, so that the PW maps are still playable on V.

>>719243115
>And none of that prevented it from being a clunky, underbaked mess where half the game is cutscenes.
nta but the subsistence camera is an absolute game changer and the reason the game feels so much more modern than MGS1 and 2. It still fun to play to this day

>>719243065
>old man with ADHD yells at cloud then eats the soulless slop that is MGS V(ermin)
ebin

>>719243238
No need to, you'll never convince anyone that MGS is good.

>>719240410
Because the story sucked. In MGS, story is everything.

>>719243260
I'm 26 and I enjoy videogames, not movies.
There's a reason why MGSV still gets 2000 players a decade after release while the MGS1, 2 and 3 remasters flopped.

>>719243115
You're full of shit and just want a lazy argument

>>719242657
Hmm

>>719243408
No, I'm just calling out a fanbase that has its head up its ass and unironically thinks a forgotten franchise had any influence on videogames beyond making failed movie directors like Neil Druckmann think they have a place in this industry.

>>719243378
>seethes about millennials
>look inside
>zoomer retard with ADHD sucking off Rainbow Six in Africa
roflcopter.avi

>>719240410
the story was crap

>>719243558
Yes, you are the same videogame-hating caduals who unironically slurp other non-videogames like Deltarune, Undertale, Danganronps or Life is Strange.
What's worse is you got obsessed with Metal Gear's plot and lore, which is complete non-sense from a dude who likes pretending he knows about the military and geopolitics.

>Rainbow Six in Africa
Would be fun, but if I could I would have made MGSV ArmA 3 in Africa with a focus on stealth.

>>719243507
>nooooooooooooo, im a brave hero calling you out because I don't like youuuu

>>719243713
I could harp on the typos, but I think the "quality" of this post speaks for itself

>>719243298
it started to sucks since 2 with lelilolu patriots then capitalized in big boss

>>719243727
I'm not, I do it purely for enjoyment, you are the most pathetic fanbase in /v/
Obsessed with a dead franchise that wss never really good to begin with, and who still cries because a game didnt focus on its dumb narrative.

>>719243821
It's what you are, casuals who hate videogames, obsessed with muh plot theories and also a bunch of retards who unironically wanted a female character to be a tranny.
Pure untermensch.

>>719237067
Kojima's son sounds far cooler than him, Konami should hire him to fix the franchise

>>719236667 (OP)
The only good thing about this game are those monster hunter collaboration which they can never remake

>>719244001
give how shit current monster hunter is i dont think so

>>719244001
Konami should accept that Metal Gear is over.

>>719243713
It's OK to be brown and have a sub 85 IQ, there's no need to justify yourself, no evil boomer "caduals" are going to hurt you here. Relax.

>>719244001
>fix the franchise
What's there to fix? It's over, it was a narrative focused franchise, and its story ended with MGSV.
Hell, you could say it ended with MGS4.
MGS needs fixing as much as Lord of the Rings does.

>>719244069
I think they have, that's why they remade 3, last chance to wring some nostalgia bucks out of millennials and so zoomers can play the new one and pretend they played good games too.

>>719244057
Even after the hyper casualisation after world, both world and rise are still far superior games than any mgs

>>719244161
I'm danish, and dont worry, I have no problem accepting MGS is dead.
All those gamea and only one was fun, so nothing of value has been lost.

>>719244275
You gonna ignore Wilds exists?

>>719244057
Back then Monster Hunter was still on second, going into third gen, his son was probably obsessed with FU or maybe Dos. It's anyone's guess how he feels about the newer entries to the franchise but he did experience it's golden age
>>719244182
Remove the cutscenes, add gameplay

>>719244347
I said till world and rise
Monster hunter had a good run compare to most franchise

>>719244161
>actually you need a high IQ to appreciate "soldier genes", having a war vet acting like a high schooler and a villain who's sole motivation is that he has no clue how genes work
I think its precisely people with an IQ of 85 who'll enjoy MGS the most.

>>719238390
No have you even played PW? BB actually trained and did social activities with his men like doing parties and going on fishing
Compared to MSF diamond dogs is a soulless base managed by a mute puppet of Kaz and Ocelot

>>719244480
Diamond Dogs is a proper military force, MSF were a bunch of clowns.

>>719244182
Mgs had some few gameplay but they never reached its full potential because of kojima's obsession with cinematic shit

>>719244292
Post windmill with time stamp

>>719244573
What potential?
MGS1-4 had such terrible gameplay that despite its sales they didnt influence other games in any way.

>>719236667 (OP)
I was fucking dissapointed by V, I expected V to be big as PW but without a portable limitation, but instead they gutted everything and stuffed the game with fillers

>>719244768
Gutted what?
They removed the mandatory boss grinding and streamlined outer ops.
Plus they made it so it didnt feel terrible to play like Peace Walker.

>>719244728
PW and V had potential to be a game about expanding your merc company but it's incredibly simplistic

>>719244867
Dont care about PW, and MGSV should have focused on the operator simulator aspect, take cues from ArmA 3 and other milsims.

>>719236667 (OP)
But costa rica is full of niggers. Or was it nicaragua? I forgot

>>719244571
yeah I mean it's a PSP spin-off, PW in general is goofy but it had a lot of content
excusing lack of chemistry with his team with "muh proper military force" is fucking laughable
good luck fulfilling your macho military fantasy in an incompetent base (with men that gets manhandled by Eli) with an ugly ass Gundam metal gear as a mascot.

>>719245091
>incompetent
They destroyed XOF, an entire intelligence agency, all while they had the Soviets and other mercs fearing them because they had access to weaponry and tech too advanced for them and way more resources.
MSF got wiped out by like four squads of XOF units.