Thread 719242228

Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice go go!

Burnice Burnice Burnice yes!

>>719242228 (OP)
Look at her go!
Still
>Gacha
No sir

Brown thread

Seamonkey moment

>>719242228 (OP)
Is ZZZ still alive? Dont see people really talking about it anymore

What is she burning, exactly?

>>719242507
Ice. It's in her name retard.

>>719242228 (OP)
Coalburnice

>>719242487
Coming to Jakarta! I will beating you bloody! Stupid Timmy not knowing Burnice lady is for SEA KING!!!!!

When her will be rerun?

What is it about brown dudes and lusting after black men's cock?

>>719242496
it's morphing into genshin slop but those people will never give up on genshin so it's bleeding players now
they gave up on designs like op

>>719242384
>Gatcha
Who cares bro
Shes hot
I dont play her game, I just fap to her art

>>719242496
It's alive, but not doing too hot.
Problem with ZZZ is that they had extremely tumultuous launch, with lots of loud people complaining about a core feature of the game... which the devs then scrapped from all future content, leading to game's first year really suffering both from presentation and gameplay variety.
As somebody who played through that, ZZZ had some of the worst fucking events I have seen, and the story felt rushed. You could really see devs scrambling to make SOMETHING to replace the TV-mode.
The new season has sort of fixed that... But the problem is that the game is like year old now, and they lost much of the launch playerbase, both due to bad initial impressions, and due to lackluster content for half an year. And while the anniversary was generous, it will be really hard to win people back.
Like, have you seen live-service game do some kind of miraculous recovery, after the problems are kinda fixed? I'm sure it can happen, but it is rare.

>>719243450
>>719242496
Where are people even taking these metrics? All the gacha accounts on twitter still regularly post about genshin and youtube videos get hundreds of thousands or a million views. It's genshin actually that I don't see normies talking about anymore.

>>719243698
Talk about ZZZ I mean.

>>719242496
I still constantly see ZZZ and Genshin threads here.
Hell, even WuWa, even though most of them were made by one guy.
It's HSR that I barely see here.

shit game. shit endgame. shit events. cute character designs wasted in a shit game.

>>719242604
>>719242604
>>719242604

>>719243879
>I still constantly see ZZZ
Actual threads? Or just people posting the charactes to goon to for 20 replies before it dies

>>719243450
>The new season has sort of fixed that...
It still has the major issue of have no content outside of main story and event. As commissions are just gone.

>>719243698
At this point Genshin is like WoW, people are invested enough in it that they are not going to drop it enmasse. Meanwhile ZZZ has the task of trying to win people back, why else would they have implemented drastic reworks in Season 2?
Granted, we don't have accurate data for any gacha game, so most we can go with are the revenue estimates. But the ones ZZZ do paint a declining picture, and whenever somebody brings it up, ZZZ fans are like "HOW CAN YOU EVEN TRUST THOSE?! THEY ARE INACCURATE!!!"
Well, Blue Archive also has declining revenue after each anniversary, with some performing better than others, but you don't see fans of the game screaming about revenue estimates being vastly inaccurate. Nor do players of other Hoyo games raise a stink either.

Burnice WHITE

>>719244035
There's one other than this thread in catalog right now. Judge it yourself.

>>719242384
faggot

>>719244035
ZZZ gets more threads in a week than HSR in a several months.

>>719244180
Yeah, I mostly meant the core gameplay in main story. During the launch we had strong reliance on the TV-mode... And starting from Calydon patch that was just completely scrapped. The devs tried to make a big deal about new maps, but let's not kid ourselves, they were not fun to navigate at all, and were used extremely poorly in all the side quests.
The new maps in Season 2 are actually major step up. Sure, they are still not Devil May Cry or God of War, but still much better than what was in after TVs were eliminated.
...But I really don't think this is good enough. All the side content happening without TVs has kind of highlighted the lackluster presentation that ZZZ has, especially if you compare it to other Hoyo games. In Genshin and HSR when you talk to characters in unvoiced side quests, they do actually have some kind of animations, and camera angle changes occasionally. Meanwhile ZZZ just has idle animations all the time.
>But it's side-content, who cares?!
I care at least! Characters emoting makes the content fun and easy to follow, especially when there's multiple NPCs on screen at once. I can name few HSR and Genshin side quests that I actually liked, but struggle to remember any of the recent ZZZ additions because the presentation is so ass.

I uninstalled after Miyabi because I didn't get Astra Yao
Fuck gachas

izquierda o derecha

>>719244193
BA is the current otaku hangout topic just like Fatefaggotry Kancolle Idolmaster Uma were before. They don't actually give a fuck about BA success as long as they have an otaku thing to be terminally online about.

>>719242496
I don't see any hoyoshit at all recently. It's mostly brown dust now. Coomers won.

>>719243450
Theres also the designs with urban and modern aesthetic being abandoned

>>719242228 (OP)
anti-draw

>>719244914
I tried making a HSR thread here recently and it dies around 200 posts.
/v/ doesn't like to talk about it for some reason and the /vg/ general is a dumpster fire.

>>719245220
Well, we are getting Orphie and Seed next, and Orphie's design is pretty good in my opinion. Paper-pusher secretary with intelligent super-soldier tail is pretty fun concept.
...But in the patch after that we get more Spook Shack characters, and those two seem to bring supernatural element up to eleven.

>>719242228 (OP)
More like Bombice

>>719243879
What exactly happened to star rail? I dropped after amphoreus start because it felt uninspired

>>719243698
ZZZ is a good case study of how Twitter likes & TikTok hours or whatever don’t translate into profits. ZZZ characters are popular in the same way virgin killer sweaters and gold bikinis are: mainly by secondaries and the artist who draw them to score some extra Patreon/fanbox bucks, NOT people who actually spend on the game or even play it. There’s a reason why it’s best selling banners are hard powercreep units like Miyabi and Yixuan and not, say, Burnice.
ZZZ is also less of a game outside of its gacha elements than Genshin is (albeit nowhere near as bad as HSR is). Genshin is still incredibly propular and retains players well because it has universal appeal beyond how many booru entires a given character has or how irrelevant it makes a character from 6 months ago feel to play.

>>719245838
They decided that having 8+ hours of story each patch and one event with gameplay is the way to go now, so after beating the story and that one event, the game pretty much has zero content.
Also, they finally added a skip button recently, so you can do even less content now.

>>719243450
FGO and Blue Archive both did that. Now FGO is cheating a little because it was an earlier game and has the weight of its existing IP behind it so the natural hype around chapter 5 was always there so not the best example, but Blue Archive didn't have that luxury and was in legit danger of dying for a time until they got it together

>>719246594
You mean with the bunny banners, right? Fair point, that was around 8 months into the game's lifespan. After that they really managed to turn it around.

>>719245947
While HSR is my favorite Hoyo game right now due to the story and characters, there's no denying that Genshin gives players most bang for their buck with characters, since it's possible to use them to explore the huge open world. Like, it is just fun going around the place, and seeing all the different locations.
If the game actually archived old events, I'd say that it was a no-brainer live-service game to get into as casual player.
But looping back to ZZZ, my problem with the game is that it just kind of fails to hook me right now. I do like the some of the individual stories, like Yuzuha's and Alice's stuff in new patch, but there's just not anything to keep me consistently engaged with the setting.

>>719245838
I'd suggest trying it out again. Amphoreus started slow, but it did get better with each patch.

Why is Belle like this?

>>719244180
The commissions werent good in the first place so it's better that they're gone

>>719247609
I liked some of them more than the current side quests we got in S2.

>>719247394
>While HSR is my favorite Hoyo game right now due to the story and characters
You're fucking crazy man
Amphoreus and its boring cast of characters has all but killed my interest in HSR, especially now that they're going to bring in even more HI3 wankery with Elysia

>>719247425
why is she such a sex addicted gamer?

>>719245408
All the hoyo generals are plagued by one deeply disturbed schizo that makes hundreds of posts in every one of them talking to himself. It’s so bizarre to see when jannies get off their ass seeing literally 450 posts deleted at once. He started with HSR so it’s the worst general

It’s so awful and I hate zoomers. Back in my day tripfags would actually reply to others all these zoomoid bitches just samefag all fucking day

>>719243450
>Like, have you seen live-service game do some kind of miraculous recovery
FGO based staved off EoS because of Oberon and LB6

>>719245947
Anon you have zero actual sales data for zzz

not a gachatard but i tried, i honestly gave it a shot but its a drag and i got filtered right at the belobog-pubsec arc
its written for grade schoolers or the average mindless anime fan
what it really made me want to do is play an mmo again, it reminded me of taking care of daily chores but instead of getting a few scraps of 10 different types of obfuscating currency and systems i actually have fun in a wide open world
piper sex

>>719242496
>Is ZZZ still alive?
They completely gutted its identity and aesthetics because the launch was rushed, crashed straight into forced Chinese magic shit.

>>719247726
Then you're probably part of the audience they're trying to shed, like with the tv gameplay enjoyers, and replace with a more modern audience

>>719242496
I actually started playing it this week. First time I tried a gacha at all and I'm kind of liking it. It's a bit button mash-y, but I shouldn't expect too much from something also playable on phones and tablets.

Does it become very f2p unfriendly later on?

I like ZZZ because the MCs are actual characters with voices and personalitys.
For me, its Wise AKA Lord Phatheon

>>719247942
Nah, it's not just one guy.
In general it feels like people from those generals care more about engaging in gender/culture wars and fighting their thread nemeses than actually talking about the fucking games.

>>719242228 (OP)
MY...AGP...IS ACTING UP AGAIN!

>>719248449
>>Does it become very f2p unfriendly later on?
It's currently Mihoyo's friendliest F2P game so far. Re-runs are still plenty common and the strongest characters are all still from the 1.X days so powercreep hasn't started yet.
The big problem is that there's not much to do other than grind dailies once you beat the MSQ and all the side content from 1.X.

>>719248449
No, but that's the entirety of the experience.

I want burnice. When will her banner go up

>>719248449
Throughout the main story it can be very mashy there's no difficulty at all, you can't mash through endgame unless you whale though.
Only looking at the amount of pulls per patch, for a hoyo gacha ZZZ is generous even if that isn't saying much.
They're also going to ramp up the powercreep in the 2.3 patch so it's hard to say how the old characters are going to hold up in the future.

>>719247425
She just wants to tie her friend up with ropes, cover her in lamp oil and blow her up with bombs

>>719248460
>For me, its Wise AKA Lord Phatheon
Banshee hands typed this post.

>>719242228 (OP)
ughh my AGP

I'll be honest.
I have no idea how your gachagames work. I hear you guys talking about banners and rolling for characters, and I have to ask.
When you do get a character, is it like a one time use or can you play as that character from then on?

>>719248872
Her first banner was a while ago so she might be due for a rerun in 2.3 or 2.4.

>>719248606
Anon, it is one guy. He’s been banned a couple of times and every single time the threads come to almost a halt.

Burnice is cute and they should bring her into a real game.

>>719249118
>When you do get a character, is it like a one time use or can you play as that character from then on?
You unlock a character and they permanently become playable. The thing about banners is that the chance of unlocking a limited character is only available for a limited time. (In ZZZ's case, it's 3-4 weeks for each banner). The FOMO comes in from having enough pulls to have the chance of unlocking your wanted character permanently. It's like gambling but the jackpot is a character unlock that gets changed out every month.

Burnice is my inner spiritual animal, and whenever I go out I imagine her beaming her strength into me.

>>719242496
Try checking the catalog.

>>719243450
ZZZ is my first and probably only gacha. What do you predict will happen from here?

>>719242228 (OP)
>no paizurimjob hentai of her
Artists had ONE job.

>>719242228 (OP)
AGP~! AGP~! AGP~! GO GO~!

>>719250870
Kys tendie jeet

>>719250484
It's Hoyo, so I doubt they are going to kill the game or something. Like, even though the game isn't bringing in insane numbers, it's probably still profitable, so development should keep going.

>>719248848
>The big problem is that there's not much to do other than grind dailies once you beat the MSQ and all the side content from 1.X.
To be fair, that is a thing in all gachas. After you finish the substantial content that is out, there's really nothing else to do, unless you just wanna do the challenges, like Tower or other stuff.

>>719248352
Man, I'd hope not. Some of those quests that used TV mode were actually fun, with unique gimmicks. Meanwhile the current quests all feel like same thing, with incredibly poor presentation to boot.

>>719250870
Imagine if this happened to you hahah

>>719242228 (OP)
BE AGRESSIVE BE BE AGRESSIVE

>>719243698
>Where are people even taking these metrics
Its COMPLETELY made up.
Anyone talking about a games revenue is referencing the retarded reddit chart.

The chart which is completely and utterly made up numbers and even reading the most surface level into it lets you know how full of shit it is
>Okay heres gacha game revenue
>I guessed the amounts based on their store rankings
>Oh but many of these have their own storefronts which wouldnt be reflected
>Also I have no china data
Theres literally a disclaimer with it that all of the estimates are made up but somehow retards have been duped into thinking it means anything.

Its the equivalent of saying a games doing good/bad by threads on /v/

>>719251113
Oh man, that would really suck...

>>719249353
Oh that makes sense

>>719242228 (OP)
go! go!

>>719251968
I've nutted so many times to that video that now when ever i hear her song i get hard

>>719251492
Do you think whoever makes this made-up chart has bias against some specific games, and is engineering their failure? And it's just coincidence that when game gets several badly performing months there's either end of service, or reworks?

>>719251774
Adding to that Anon's explanation, the characters do actually get rerun, so aside from collaboration units, it's not like players have only one chance to get them.
But nature of these games is that after main story, there's endgame challenges, and each new "season" is generally tailored towards the newest available units. It is possible to get all rewards without them, but having the characters that new bosses are tailored to showcase makes you have easier time.
And thing with Hoyoverse games is that to unlock max potential of characters, you also want to pull duplicates of them, up to max of six. And you'd also want their unique weapon.
With decent luck, it is possible to get ALMOST all of the characters in Zenless Zone Zero as free-to-play user, but then you would not be pulling any weapons, nor any duplicates.

>>719252158
May I have the artist?

>>719252202
slayed.coom you can find that specific video on e621

>>719251492
/zzz/jeet seethe

>>719252341
100% certain that porn animator is a jeet or SEAmonkey

>>719252460
He's A REAL NIGGER and he's cousin of Andrew Tate

>>719252460
Seeing how much they do blacked stuff you are most likely right. Burnice animation is the only one i like

>>719244035
majority of zzz threads go to bump limit, be it porn or actual game discussion

>>719252163
Im pretty sure the first one was some DBZ spic who was bragging how will his game was doing to shit on Epic 7 players.
But its probably just some dude trying to dupe idiots into giving him money now

Is it true that Burnice is canonically the town bike?

>>719254152
No. She hates touching people canonically

>>719242496
Yes and they fixed everything.

>>719255008
Unless your name is pulchra

>>719255056
Is there a reason for why the redhead to the left has so much fart porn?

I hope they bring back Jane for some event or even the main story.
The worst thing about gachas is the amount of characters they leave out of the story along the way.

>>719255529
She likes to do "pranks".

>>719251113
It happens all the time in the us of a.

>>719250949
you first chicken tourist ggit

>>719255675
Oh, I see.

>>719255784
Like 90% of bimbos you see walking around in USA are actually guys that got transformed (often against their will) into blonde bimbos. You could be next!

>>719255568
which AI artist is this from, and is fufu a futa

>>719255568
She returned briefly in the summer resort event, which was nice.

Why does she use a bone-anchored hearing aid?

>>719255568
The character designs in this game peaked with Jane and it's been downhill ever since.

>>719252460
he's probably white since he mostly does blacked stuff

>>719243450
fuck man removing TV mode which was what the game was made around was horrific. I get that 99% of the general gacha audience don't want to think and swipe their cards but holy fuck. It was legit chill and fun and the unique interactions in the matrix is something no other game had. I bet you anything if they ignored the influencers and whiners the game would be doing 100x better right now.

>>719258417
>fuck man removing TV mode which was what the game was made around was horrific
What do you mean anon, don't you enjoy your grey Star Rail corridor, your dark grey Star Rail corridor, and your, get this, orange HI3rd circular arena?

The TV dungeons had a major advantage which was being able to abstract scenes and large scale events while still maintaining some agency.
>now this group is scaling a building and doing puzzles to disable the electricity
>now we're hijacking a train
Throw a few comics and you're golden, you can tell a story across multiple locations without having to spend a fortune animating everything or making hundreds of 3D environments.
Now it's just
>stand and talk on the same backgrounds for an hour
>combat on recycled arenas
every fucking time

>>719258983
Just because the new shit is bad doesn't make TV mode good. I for one am glad they removed TV mode but I also hate JRPGs with a passion since it's just low budget, low effort slop(I don't play this game anymore).

>>719243035
So it’s not video game

>>719258983
>>719258417
>The TV dungeons had a major advantage which was being able to abstract scenes and large scale events while still maintaining some agency.
Absolutely agreed. When we had the TV mode, I could suspend my disbelief that we were traveling around the Hollow, and those recycled arenas we fought in were in different parts of each area.
When the TV exploration was removed, you really started feeling how repetitive all the maps were, and how little variety environments had.

>don't you enjoy your grey Star Rail corridor, your dark grey Star Rail corridor
While I do like story and characters of HSR, repetition is seriously huge problem in the game.
>Character story takes place on underground laboratory
Just use basement of Herta Space Station again.
>Side quest takes place on planet we have never visited
Just use Belobog city again, I guess!
I get that it's all optional side content, but if you look at Genshin, all the side World Quests and Character Quests take us on all kinds of wild locations that we never visited during the main story. What the fuck gives, Hoyo?!

>>719258118
whites don't play gacha shit, just you SEAgroids