Thread 719244997

How did it flop so hard? 2 months after global release and literally nobody cares.

>>719244997 (OP)
Should have just made persona 5 arena

turning p5 into gachaslop is a sell-out bridge too far

Should have just made persona 6

should have just made smt 6

>>719244997 (OP)
Shitty early arcs, and most importantly, global being treated unfairly with no soft pity and harder content
Japs are the shittiest and most stingy gacha managers there is, no wonder the Chinese beat them uncontested in this market

>>719246268
>Japs are the shittiest and most stingy gacha managers there is, no wonder the Chinese beat them uncontested in this market
anon...

>>719244997 (OP)
shit rates, shit story, bland characters

>>719246268
>Japs are the shittiest and most stingy gacha managers there is, no wonder the Chinese beat them uncontested in this market
P5X is made by a Chinese studio.

>>719244997 (OP)
Accelerated pacing, decreased rewards, Quality of life on the other servers delayed or outright cancelled, increased difficulty by removing one weakness from every enemy to incentivize you rolling more units and spending more time farming which conflicts with the accelerated schedule of them wanting you to do everything a third of the time. It's quite clearly a cash grab, they want to get as much money as they can then shutter servers as soon as possible so they can say they tried with global and give up on it

>>719244997 (OP)
Story was shit and then uma troonsume stole what little thunder it had left

People quickly realized it's reheated leftovers: money grubbing edition

>>719246414
Japs control the global release not the Chinese.

>>719246268
funny you say that since this is a Chinese game

>>719244997 (OP)
Genuinely who the fuck wants to play Persona 5 but with mass produced soulless phantom thieves? Everything about it feels wrong.
Gachas by themselves are pretty bad but gachas that exist to milk existing fanbases of real games are even worse.

>>719244997 (OP)
It's not good.

>>719246969
>Genuinely who the fuck wants to play Persona 5 but with mass produced soulless phantom thieves? Everything about it feels wrong.
Unironically redditors.

I got mass-downvoted on the Persona subreddit for saying I didn't want gacha shit to taint the series.

So glad I was vindicated by this game being a massive flop.

>>719244997 (OP)
Got btfo by anime horse girls.

>>719247254
I think that's any game subreddit, peak consoomers flock there who will just eat up anything related to the franchise, especially bad when it comes to gacha games, like you should be happy a gacha is being made and if you don't like it just don't play chud.

The persona curse struck it.

>>719246304
>>719246414
>>719246947
Japs are the ones managing Global, which explains all the retarded decisions and stingyness masked as "fairness"

>>719246969
>Genuinely who the fuck wants to play Persona 5 but with mass produced soulless phantom thieves?
It's funny, because basically all of them are better, more fleshed out characters than the P5 """characters""".

>>719244997 (OP)
The japs running the global release fucked everything up and are now in full panic mode after realising that even the shameless american and japanese persona whales have their limit before they just tell a game to fuck off.
So now they're panic dropping all the pity features CN has as fast as they can to try and recoup some of the losses.

>>719246304
>>719246414
>>719246947
Retards. The chinese are managing their version 10x better than Sega is managing the global/JP versions. That's what he's saying.

Global and JP were made to be shat out then EOS'd and every single update just reconfirms that approach.

>>719244997 (OP)
I only care to play this to see not-Chie's story. Can I do that without engaging too much with the gacha elements?

>>719244997 (OP)
The early arcs went for something that required time to get going (themed around petty crimes and apathy rather than abuses of power) and then after the first two arcs of people hating it they replaced the writers so we don't know whether they would have ended up screwing it up or doing it well. In any case you have a relatively weak start that put people off, and all global has to look forward to at this point is an incoming pivot so now in addition to the story being boring, it's also going to be schizophrenic.

>>719244997 (OP)
Man, I thought Persona 4 fatique was bad, but Persona 5 fatigue is 10x worse. Make another fucking game, Fatlus, I'm not gonna play a chink gachaslop version of 5 even for free.

>>719244997 (OP)
Mostly sega being massive retards
Chinks did miracles with whatever they had(p5 is in no fucking way gacha material especially with dx2 existing)
But sega literally removed essential character give away from missions(healer) that chinks had and moved her being added to general banner by 6(!) months
A lot of other petty shit like raising difficulty and not giving any stream codes/free gems
By now global is on its sure way to eos once they drain whales dry(already balancing difficulty to suit whales only)

>>719247960
The social life stuff is completely disconnected from the gacha, although it is timegated.

Please come back... they're fixing the game bros... Please...
https://persona5x.com/news/details/000217CqBKWGLP.html

>>719248139
>they're adding the 110 guaranteed banner soon
The only thing I regret about quitting the game is that i'm going to miss the absolute meltdown in /p5x/ (or maybe they're fully buckbroken now) when it turns out the soft pity for the 110 banner in TW/CN that gives you the banner character every 80 or so rolls is just gone in global.

>>719244997 (OP)
Maybe mobile gacha schemes are not popular among people who care about actual video games?

>>719244997 (OP)
Sega fucked themselves in the ass and burned goodwill on Day 1. They're backpedaling on some shit and devs are addressing complaints (like reducing the time gap for future unlimited units to be added to the standard pool, and giving out the gigahealer's awakening material after she was inexplicably removed from the free selector), but it's one of those "too little, too late" sort of things. They failed to retain the FotM chasers, so all that remain are a few handful of autists.
/v/ is a clear example of Sega's dumbfuckery. Anons who were excited to play got completely disillusioned by Sega's long-nosed tactics and most dropped that shit within the first week.

>>719248301
If you mean thread on gacha board then lol
It's dead for a few weeks and nobody wants to bother making new one

>>719244997 (OP)
In a strange twist of fate, Umamusume somehow managed to trample it on top of Sega being the usual fucktards. I was convinced it was gonna be the other way around before release despite being an Uma player.

How did the fucking japs manage to shit up a guaranteed just by managing it
Fucking Sega

>>719246969
to play using door in 5x

No one cares about Presona 5 anymore.

>>719247918
>>719247526
>>719246926
+10 Social Credit.

>>719248694
Cygames won by astroturfing the SHIT out of it
Marketing and public image >>> the actual game
It's that simple, all you need to do to make your game succeed is pay streamers to shitpost about it

>>719248068
So the social links are missable then? That's real lame

>>719248987
They aren't missable, the timegating is that you only get a certain amount of progress per IRL day

>>719248068
>completely disconnected from the gacha
Lol
You can buy stamina potions

>>719248987
>>719249046
To elaborate on the level of timegating: People that were playing the game every day since release were able to romance a character after 3-5 weeks depending on the character if they did nothing but hard focus that one character (as in, always leveling the social stat the character requires whenever possible, visiting the character whenever they show up, and doing part time jobs for gifts whenever you can't do any of the first two)
And then there are still 5 more ranks to each SL after the romance threshold, with the requirements going up like crazy past that point

>>719249229
I said it was disconnected from the gacha, which is true
You can speed it up via the cash shop, you're right, but there isn't any social content locked behind owning characters or anything like that like other gachas do.

People are stupid but even normies can feel the absolute absurdity of playing a gacha spinoff of a game with a (already self-subserved) life-affirming plotline.
It'd be like going down to your local casino to find the Either/Or by Kierkegaard Slot Machine Experience.

>>719249421
Yeah my bad you're right

I thought the combat was bad. Apparently it's 1 dps and the rest is support. Also that obnoxious genshin dupe system

>>719249662
It depends on what you're doing
All raids (Sea of Souls, Nightmare's Gateway) are built and designed around you having a particular 5* banner character and buffing them as much as possible. But there isn't much incentive to go for super high ranks as all of the rewards are basically participation trophy tier of difficulty.
Other stuff is a bit more variable, like Velvet Trials which is more focused on building more well-rounded teams.

>>719246680
oops! it seems uma superiority has led to some controversy

>>719244997 (OP)
P5 is already the worst one but add chinky gacha shit into it?
Lol.
Lmao.
Even.

>>719250495
they added p3 characters after they ran out of og p5 ones lmao
they will probably do the same with p4 once p4r is out

>>719250020
Your ilk are so retarded they needed an o9a skibidifarms glowie to shoot up a school for you. Total tranny death.

>>719250548
Aren't Persona 3 characters 25 by the time Persona 5 happens? And aren't Persona 4 characters 23?

Total Tomoko Love!

>>719251725
it's an alternate universe, you don't actually see or meet the OG series characters as themselves, just cognitive versions from fixed points in time

>>719251885
>it's all your favorite characters, but none of them are real and nothing matters!
It's worse than the fighting/dancing spinoffs then. Most of them are actually canon.

>>719251857
They hate her so much
>immediately crippled in the intro
>forced to discard her dreams and become a wageslave
>only has like 3 friends, one is chasing the dream she can't follow anymore as a constant reminder of what she's lost, one is lying to her because she's scared of returning to her old career, and the last is most likely cheating on her (you are encouraged to do so by the game mechanics)
>both of her units are complete irredeemable dogshit and their only use case is as psy filler units for velvet trials until haru releases

>>719252001
How canon everything will be is yet to be seen, remember that there are at least 3 canon alternate universes in the persona series already that have had knock on effects on others
I don't have high hopes tho

>>719252118
yeah its a shame, but we still love and support her!

>>719250020
Your game is already in free fall as content creators are getting bored / shilling period ends. You will join us by the end of the year.

>>719251857
>>719252245
She will live a very(?) happy(?) life as Wonder's third wife.

>>719244997 (OP)
I liked it when it came out. The idea of having a party of new persona characters to mix and match and run through some dungeons was really appealing and I blew through the story content that was there in the first month. Then I had no reason to continue logging in other than to accumulate the tiresome array of upgrade materials, and the stinginess mentioned by other posts also soured me a bit on it. Instead I wound up becoming an umafag despite scoffing at the concept, and haven't check in for weeks.

Tomoko HATE

>>719244997 (OP)
>10 different currencies
>Asking for more money than it should just like Dx2
>COME ON AND SUBWAY SLAM; AND WELCOME TO JAPAN! <---Shit writing
>EVENTS EVENT EVENTS!!!! to fast-forward the story and still
>No way to level party members up with you (my Wonder is 65-70 vs my part level 30-40) because of said 10 diffferent currencies and party level does not work like traditional Purse Owner.

Not hard to figure out.

>>719252498
Haven't checked* in

Additionally, I couldn't give a shit about the events, because I'm already sick to death of the P5 cast. New characters was the main draw for me in the first place.

>>719249662
Try doing that in trials

>>719252543
>everyone else is either mad, distraught or has a completely blank expression
>yumi just chilling with a massive smile on her face
she's so fucking based

>>719244997 (OP)
Well, my problems were:
The first two arcs just feel like the Tenmu version of 5’s first two arcs.
The entire world and game mostly feel like a recycled version of 5 in general.
The UI completely clutters your screen, and it’s very clunky in general, except for the shop menu of course.
There are way too many menus, and switching between them is a nightmare.
Palaces were way too easy. You can just faceplant into guards and suffer no penalties. They barely notice you anyway
All the different currencies are very confusing
Having two different gachas is really sucks, especially if one is for weapons. I want to pull cute girls or cool dudes, not guns.
Your MC does not feel special at all. I barely ever had to use his second persona, and the ones I had were always way too weak
Bringing the wrong element team member for a boss makes the fight way too hard, but bringing the right one makes it way too easy.
>I dropped it after about a month and still haven’t touched it, even though I loved every Persona game. It just really lacks the flavor of the original

>>719252001
Only 4U/U2, 4D are canon. I guess you can put PQ in, but it's "lol timeloop bubble" so it's worthless.

3D and 5D aren't canon.

>>719252543
>Hitting 15 on all S-links
>Ever
I get them to the bonus and then dump them before it becomes "serious."

>>719248587
That's because the gacha board is too slow, I posted a couple times in the P5X thread before it did the global release and despite the thread only getting like one post after mine, the thread was up for weeks on the catalog.

>>719252573
>>719252741
>million different currencies
this is just a general gacha issue
you shouldn't require a guide in order to not brick your account, fuck gachas

crazy the number of people here who got filtered by this guy
the first palace was a lot of fun

>>719252869
what about the bonuses that are after lv15, like kohryu requiring merope r20 or one of the jobs unlocking at tomoko r17 or so

>>719244997 (OP)
chinese gachashit

>>719253001
meropes lvl 20 persona isnt that good desu, atleast maybe not worth how much it takes to get

>>719252936
I especially fucking hate it when you start the game and have no sense of how much the currencies are actually worth
>You spent a million coins on this character? No problem, you can farm them in two minutes
>What you spent 10 gems on this character? What a fucking idiot, have fun getting those back in 5 months. Might as well restart your account

>>719252942
I had to check if this was real dialogue.

lets hope with 2.0 coming out in a week that we’ll get a boost in players