Thread 719261252

Why don't more games go for the cool biotech route?

>>719261252 (OP)
Strangers wrath was good for this
I liked shooting bees at people

>>719261392
The living ammo was a really cool mechanic. Game was pure kino.

>>719261252 (OP)
why dont you try posting some

>>719261845
Gladly.

>>719261252 (OP)
High on Life does this, and High on Life 2 looks AWESOME
youtube.com/watch?v=GtTLjkB0vbo

>>719261252 (OP)
Because people conflate biotech with the Giger style, which is weird and usually sexual, Scorn tried it and that didn't do so well. Biotech like this is just offputting, and normal people don't want to be offput by things.

>cool bio weapon with disgusting and or otherwordly looking inner workings
>actually just works as any other gun in any cookie cutter FPS title
>shoots projectiles that decrease enemy HP
>enemy dies once HP reaches 0
WHOA! How very interesting and innovative.
Why is everything just a reskin of what has been done million times before?
When will devs come with new interesting mechanics?

>>719262282
>Because people conflate biotech with the Giger style, which is weird and usually sexual
Well, Giger was a huge influence on it so that can't be denied.

Scorn's biggest issue was being an art piece instead of a game, the aesthetics were on point.

>>719262285
I agree it could be done in a more unique way to make the biotech aspect pop more. I'm not sure how you'd represent that mechanically. Half pet raising sim?

>>719262285
When will you?

>>719262446
This, people tried to sell scorn as an imsim or a straight up shooter when it was just an interactive art piece, with shit gameplay

>>719262285
>>719262446
How about a tumor gun?

>>719262945
That's badass looking.

>it could be done in a more unique way to make the biotech aspect pop more. I'm not sure how you'd represent that mechanically
A GUN that shoots feminine hands that jerk off your opponents and then lays eggs in the jizz it milked which gets slowly consumed by the larvae that hatch from the eggs which if they eat enough spunk morph into flies that borrow into skin in ankles and eat their way all the way up towards the skull and when their host is sleeping they pop outta an ear, pull out a glock and waste the fucker.

>>719263253
Launching eggs that act as slow-burn mines could be cool, where they hatch after a time then eat the guy from the inside out and control him.

>>719261252 (OP)
Technically Warframe fits this.

I will never forgive SCORN for being such a shit game. Fucking walking simulator with extra steps. You can say I look at it with a scorn.

>>719262285
Well, let's hear some suggestions. Give your gun patpats to encourage it to shoot better?
I had an idea of symbiotic bio-"gun" that slowly drains your blood (health) throughout the game, growing and getting stronger. You can give it a whack to stop that for a while, or give it gently pats so it eases on the blood drain. At some point during a cutscene you are attacked and get a choice to protect it by covering it with your body receiving permanent damage but further bonding with the gun-animal or fight off the attackers, scaring your gun-fella.

>>719262128
the gameplay looks really good, how dialogue heavy is the first game? the literal rick and morty humor puts me off but if it's manageable I'd be able to stomach it

>>719264496
A walking sim that lasts just over 2 hours so you can't refund the shite.

>>719264503
if you don't like that, I don't think you'll be able to stomach it

>>719264617
I feel like the first puzzle was meant to be a time waster for that exact reason

>>719261252 (OP)
Because it requires IMAGINATION and that is in short supply these days.

>>719262128
the rick and morty humor is giga cringe but the concept of an FPS where the guns are characters is certainly novel given theyre shoved in your face for nearly 100% of gameplay

The way the psi device in System Shock 2 plugged directly into a vein in your arm made me not want to use it as a kid, it's a little uncomfortable to think about.

>>719264503
There's Rick and Morty humor, for sure. But the amount the guns talk and say annoying things is greatly exagerrated.
The writing is far better and less spammy than than Borderlands 2 reddithumor, but still within the zone of being called cringe.
People here called the infight dialogue of Atomic Heart cringe, so this place may be more sensitive to those sorts of things

>>719264617
Took you two hours to figure it out so you deserve to pay.

>>719261252 (OP)
Because it looks unmarketable.

>>719262282
>Scorn tried it and that didn't do so well
Yeah, because it was a shit game. Looked amazing though

>>719261252 (OP)
requires too much creativity, not enough store-bought assets available

>>719261252 (OP)
It's very niche aesthetic that doesn't get much attention unless it goes further into the edgy self-harm / sadism route women like.

>>719261252 (OP)
how am I meant to wipe my ass or eat a cheeseburger if you put that shit on my arm? i can just hold a regular rifle that probably fucks up people more than a retarded dribbling alien that makes my arm infected

>>719262285
>Needs mass appeal so it appeals to controllerfags and gets massively simplified as a result
There is a limit to how interesting and explorative gameplay can really be on a cookie cutter controller. If you introduce biotech weapon that does something genuinely new, then that conflicts with whatever aim assist you're already using.
>>719262282
>Cowards never want to go all the way
>>719267098
Your gun eats the cheeseburger and releases dopamine into your bloodstream.

>>719266038
Prototype marketed just fine

>>719262285
>shoots projectiles that decrease enemy HP
>enemy recites the bible in an unskippable cutscene once HP reaches 0
There, I fixed your game

>>719264341
Infested guns are really weird and meaty.