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Anonymous No.719660641 >>719660796 >>719660912 >>719660943 >>719660952 >>719661001 >>719661564 >>719662031 >>719662459 >>719663107 >>719663167 >>719663942 >>719669181 >>719672338 >>719677467 >>719681451
Is there still a chance for catty to be significant in anyway or is she just comic relief?
Anonymous No.719660796 >>719660872
>>719660641 (OP)
you can't even remember the character's name so i won't reply
Anonymous No.719660872
>>719660796
You just did
Anonymous No.719660912 >>719661145
>>719660641 (OP)
>is she just comic relief?
She's far past that, she's joined Monster Kid in "exists just to make Susie look Cool and Epic" territory. Sorry champ, no fatties allowed in Toby "Durag Johnson" Fox's story about gay women.
Anonymous No.719660943 >>719661146
>>719660641 (OP)
What does she look like in HD
Anonymous No.719660952
>>719660641 (OP)
There is a chance, but I doubt it.

Besides, only real route they could go at this point is more Susie wank. Would you really want that?
Anonymous No.719660956
togore
Anonymous No.719661001
>>719660641 (OP)
Built for fan art only
Anonymous No.719661145 >>719661306 >>719662953 >>719668203
>>719660912
Kris is not a woman though.
Anonymous No.719661146
>>719660943
Anonymous No.719661229 >>719661358 >>719662250 >>719662437 >>719665051 >>719665174
give me all of your "susie's idea" memes
Anonymous No.719661306 >>719661487 >>719661938 >>719662953
>>719661145
>he's still falling for "king of ero games" fox's obvious bait and sinking further into the pit of refusing to accept that suselle will be canon
i wish i could live as naively as you
Anonymous No.719661358 >>719675402
>>719661229
Google’s your friend, how about you try using that
Anonymous No.719661487
>>719661306
>>he's still falling for "king of ero games" fox's obvious bait and sinking further into the pit of refusing to accept that suselle will be canon
>i wish i could live as naively as you
Anonymous No.719661564 >>719661813 >>719661817
>>719660641 (OP)
>the fat weird person is evil
There's no way Toby would do this
Anonymous No.719661771
posted it again award
Anonymous No.719661813
>>719661564
Anonymous No.719661817
>>719661564
Toriel, Alphys in Undertale
King in Deltarune
Anonymous No.719661938 >>719662215
>>719661306
There's a chair with your name on it, Noelle.
Anonymous No.719662031 >>719672627
>>719660641 (OP)
She's pretty irrelevant according to THE list.
Anonymous No.719662215 >>719662361
>>719661938
>Noelle would rather watch from the chair than date Fatti
Grim
Anonymous No.719662250
>>719661229
Susie poses for trading card photo
Anonymous No.719662361 >>719662478
>>719662215
She honestly doesn't seem that fond of Catti.
Anonymous No.719662437
>>719661229
Susie's idea showing up among the assassination actions used by Clan Eshin in Warhammer total war.
Anonymous No.719662459 >>719664626
>>719660641 (OP)
she's a boner relief
Anonymous No.719662478 >>719663206
>>719662361
she's only fond enough of catti to spend weekends at her house regularly, write about her on her blog, tell her secrets and watch bad movies with her. the issue is that noelle throws EVERYONE under the bus when the concept of susie is around- catti, kris, carol, etc
Anonymous No.719662953 >>719663085 >>719663193
>>719661145
>>719661306
>september 2025
>still falling for kris' devious ruse
lol
Anonymous No.719663085 >>719672471
>>719662953
FemKrischad...
Anonymous No.719663107
>>719660641 (OP)
short of FRIEND bullshit yeah no its over
Anonymous No.719663167
>>719660641 (OP)
She exists to be a fundie lolcow
Anonymous No.719663193 >>719663284 >>719663817 >>719665226
>>719662953
If Kris is female, why Carol expects him to impregnate Noelle?
>b-b-but she doesn't know
She would've checked herself
Anonymous No.719663206 >>719663373 >>719663452
>>719662478
>the issue is that noelle throws EVERYONE under the bus when the concept of susie is around- catti, kris, carol, etc
I really do wonder if it's meant to be a intentional flaw or just poor writing.

Weird route, interestingly, applies she's just a very fixated person considering how quickly she drops her crush on Susie.
Anonymous No.719663284
>>719663193
Carol thinks humans just work that way because all of her knowledge about humanity comes from secretly watching her daughters Yuri anime.
Anonymous No.719663373 >>719663798 >>719664071
>>719663206
It's always poor writing. Toby doesn't GIVE his characters flaws that are actually hawmful.
Anonymous No.719663452 >>719663798
>>719663206
It's pretty clearly an intentional flaw, you can see Susie questioning her about how much Kris means to her in the closet scene
Anonymous No.719663780
>>719663457
You can simply not participate in the thread.
Anonymous No.719663798 >>719664014
>>719663373
>Toby doesn't GIVE his characters flaws that are actually hawmful.
?

Asgore, Undyne, Alphys, and arguably even Sans are all flawed as fuck.

>>719663452
Yeah, closest conversation is the biggest evidence I have for it being a intentional flaw.
Anonymous No.719663817 >>719663991
>>719663193
carol isn't homophobic, she just wants her daughter to be happy, and she can see that noelle is happiest with kris
how queen treats noelle is what carol thinks she's doing, not understanding that noelle finds her too controlling
Anonymous No.719663942
>>719660641 (OP)
Catty was involved with Kris when they fucking around doing rituals. Including the one that made the player SOUL come into their lives.
She may never get more than a few lines of dialogue tho.
Anonymous No.719663963 >>719681632
>>719663457
JANNY JANNY
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES IN HERE
MAKE THEM STOP!!1!!1!!11!!
Anonymous No.719663991
>>719663817
It's amazing how many people missed the obvious parallel between Queen and Carol.

Like, I get that she's a intentional red herring but come on.
Anonymous No.719664014 >>719664318
>>719663798
correction: asgore can be flawed because he is a sad ugly fat bald divorced man and toby's designated punching bag
Anonymous No.719664018
>>719663457
Anonymous No.719664071 >>719664163 >>719664406 >>719664834
>>719663373
>Toby doesn't GIVE his characters flaws that are actually hawmful
yeah except when Sans is so apathetic that he only takes action after everyone in the Underground dies or when Toriel abandons Asgore when he needs her most to mope in the Ruins for years or when it was made explicit that despite Asriel's fixation on and reverence of Chara they were a shithead with violent urges who endangered everyone around them. Or in Deltarune, the lightners are more flawed in mundane ways (like Noelle being inconsiderate about her friends) because they're meant to be normal people, but the darkners like Tenna? Tenna's whole deal is that he's miserable and depressed as fuck because he doesn't know how to cope with his reality and this results in him dying permanently if you don't spare everyone, what is he if not overtly harmfully flawed
Anonymous No.719664163 >>719664197
>>719664071
Darkners aren't real, they literally don't matter.
Anonymous No.719664197
>>719664163
STFU Ralsei they're real to me
Anonymous No.719664318 >>719664421 >>719664460
>>719664014
I don't get this logic. At least in Undertale. He's a genuinly pretty tortured and complex character.

Yeah, in Deltarune he's your wacky divorced dad but even then it's pretty obvious that's not the full extent of it.
Anonymous No.719664320 >>719664482
Daily reminder that Sans is a federal agent.
Anonymous No.719664406 >>719671738
>>719664071
>or when it was made explicit that despite Asriel's fixation on and reverence of Chara they were a shithead with violent urges who endangered everyone around them.
To be fair, everybody kind of fucked up when it came to Chara. You don't tell a suicidal eight year old he's the messiah and not expect him to do something VERY stupid.
Anonymous No.719664421 >>719664576
>>719664318
>even then it's pretty obvious that's not the full extent of it.
Best put on your 3-d glasses because the subversion is coming right at your face BITCH
BITCH
Anonymous No.719664460 >>719664576
>>719664318
it isn't "logic" this guy clearly just has hangups about the character writing / a parasocial grudge against Toby Fox and is incapable of looking at things in an unbiased light
Anonymous No.719664482
>>719664320
What is his opinion on the coffee in hometown?
Anonymous No.719664493 >>719664825 >>719665389
>>719663457
Undertale/Deltarune is a cultural phenomenon.
Anonymous No.719664576 >>719664630 >>719664715 >>719664976
>>719664421
The subversion is that he obviously ISN'T the bumbling divorced dad he seems to be.

>>719664460
It's just weird people fixate on Asgore. Him surviving the game is frankly staggering. If Toby really hated him I doubt he would have given him that dignity.

Yeah, in Deltarune he's played up more as a joke but it's pretty obvious that's intentional to put you off guard.
Anonymous No.719664626 >>719664850 >>719665146
>>719662459
is that david martinez
Anonymous No.719664630 >>719664734
>>719664576
Tbf Asgore only survives on True Pacifist and that is it.
Anonymous No.719664643
Anonymous No.719664715 >>719664847 >>719664908
>>719664576
>If Toby really hated him I doubt he would have given him that dignity.
If you really hate a character you don't just kill them off, you let them live so you can make them suffer. This is especially true if for some reason you also really hate what the character represents to you, or you hate the character's fans.
Anonymous No.719664734
>>719664630
Yeah, but him surviving even that route is pretty amazing considering he killed six kids.
Anonymous No.719664825 >>719678289
>>719664493
>chapter 3 & 4 released months ago
>still has the most intellectually engaging threads
How did toby do it?
Anonymous No.719664834 >>719664918
>>719664071
>Asriel's fixation on and reverence of Chara they were a shithead with violent urges who endangered everyone around them.
Still wild how everyone ignores Asriel talking shit about Chara on her grave next to another girl.
Anonymous No.719664847 >>719664920
>>719664715
>you let them live so you can make them suffer.
He doesn't seem to be suffering at the end of true pacifist.

> or you hate the character's fans.
I hate Ran-fans but I still don't hold that against the character.
Anonymous No.719664850
>>719664626
no that's me
Anonymous No.719664908
>>719664715
This guy ALWAYS looks like the most massive blazing faggot to ever fag into the fagosphere.
Anonymous No.719664918 >>719665702
>>719664834
I mean, it shows both how he does still care while also highlighting that he's largely let go of her and stops viewing her as a idol and instead as a person.
Anonymous No.719664920
>>719664847
>it's this guy again
yeah this discussion is going nowhere, go hang up some more fuck whitey posters
Anonymous No.719664976 >>719665176 >>719665298
>>719664576
I really don't understand the idea that putting a character through hardship means that the author hates them. Why is this such an ubiquitous viewpoint towards fiction on /v/, nobody creates a character with a role in a story and then hates them so much that they compromise the character's role in the story. That's a bizarre and irresponsible way to write
Anonymous No.719665051
>>719661229
Susie puts her hand up ralseis butt and uses him as a puppet
She smells her hand later when she thinks nobodys looking
Anonymous No.719665125 >>719665459
reminder

https://balsamianxxx.itch.io/childhoods-end
Anonymous No.719665146
>>719664626
RoboZyzz and the fat cat
Anonymous No.719665174
>>719661229
susie straps rockets to the underside of her shoes so she can jump/ fly like john freeman
Anonymous No.719665176 >>719665790
>>719664976
>nobody creates a character with a role in a story and then hates them so much that they compromise the character's role in the story.
Anonymous No.719665226
>>719663193
>Kris you have to continue the holiday bloodline
>b...but claire...
>who?
Anonymous No.719665298 >>719665353 >>719669087
>>719664976
It's because most people on /v/ don't really know what good writing looks like.

>nobody creates a character with a role in a story and then hates them so much that they compromise the character's role in the story.
There are some examples, but they are pretty rare and usually far more obvious.
Anonymous No.719665353 >>719665434 >>719665728
>>719665298
What is good writing?
Anonymous No.719665389 >>719665497 >>719666063
>>719664493
Chara as a mesugaki being a more common thing brings a smile to my face
Way better than the goth/emo/angsty girl that the fandom depicted her was some years ago
Anonymous No.719665434 >>719665592
>>719665353
Literally it's mostly understanding English and being able to use words well. Otherwise a lot of it comes down to questions of structure, character writing, and generally understanding complex matters like pacing and audience expectations.
Anonymous No.719665447 >>719665575 >>719665765 >>719666271 >>719668901 >>719671986 >>719672009
Toby better tone it down with the Susie wank in chapter 5
Anonymous No.719665459 >>719665852
>>719665125
Why does Kris have the symbol of Allah over his head?
Anonymous No.719665497
>>719665389
I think it's Kris influence creeping in, frankly.

Chara is very much angsty but they did seem to have a playful side. That is why Asriel was so fond of them, after all.
Anonymous No.719665575
>>719665447
Everything is set up for Susie to mentally collapse. Her so called friends are working against her in secret, she might not even be the hero, and Noelle is going to do something VERY stupid soon.
Anonymous No.719665592 >>719666081
>>719665434
Thanks, ChatGPT, but answer it more directly, please, and explain how Toby can fumble so much involving pacing and audience expectations and write all his characters as the most basic bitch anime tropes and become the richest indie dev since Notch.
Anonymous No.719665667 >>719669198 >>719674154
>pony image deleted fucking instantly
lmao
confirmation that there's a janny in these generals protecting it and allowing it to persist despite it being a /vg/ thread on /v/
Anonymous No.719665702 >>719666272 >>719669158
>>719664918
Yeah, it's just funny there's basically no cuckqueen Chara art. 2015 was a different time. We weren't as mentally ill back then.
Anonymous No.719665705 >>719665943
>Bad News: The Roaring has begun.
>Good News: Ralsei made it to the festival.
Anonymous No.719665728 >>719666176
>>719665353
anything that can elicit a satisfied reaction/ response from the reader/ player that stands up to scrutiny and the passage of time
AAA slop often passed the initial check but failed to pass under scrutiny or the passage of time
what are the games that are still beloved today that have a story/ characters with any depth, however deep?
those are the ones with good writing
Anonymous No.719665765
>>719665447
>plays Susie's game
>wants less Susie wank
Anonymous No.719665790 >>719665858
>>719665176
Thankfully Toby Fox doesn't have the same authorial neurosis as Andrew Hussie
Anonymous No.719665852 >>719666052
>>719665459
The deers will be impregnated by human seed, Allah willing.
Anonymous No.719665858
>>719665790
...so far as we know. After all, we're only halfway through the game. We haven't reached Act 6 Chapter 6 Part 6 yet.
Anonymous No.719665943
>>719665705
Im fine with that
Im still taking Berdly with me tho
Anonymous No.719666052
>>719665852
Mashallah brother
Anonymous No.719666063 >>719666272
>>719665389
Yee. Goth Chara never made sense.
Anonymous No.719666081 >>719666173 >>719666401
>>719665592
>Toby can fumble so much involving pacing
? The pacing is fine because Toby largely writes the chapters as individual stories and is actually fairly brisk by video game standards.

>audience expectations
Like?

>and write all his characters as the most basic bitch anime tropes
Most of the characters have a decent amount of depth once you get past their surface appearance. Besides, tropes are tools. The lighteners being written like they are out of a high school romantic comedy helps to highlight the adventures they go on, while also hiding their more interesting elements.
Anonymous No.719666173 >>719666360
>>719666081
>Like?
inb4 Mike Room
Anonymous No.719666176 >>719666330
>>719665728
>AAA slop often passed the initial check but failed to pass under scrutiny or the passage of time
While I don't disagree, can you name a good example of that?
Anonymous No.719666271 >>719666381
>>719665447
This is Susie’s game.
Anonymous No.719666272 >>719666651
>>719665702
2015 Undertale was still mostly the Sans fandom. Chara didn't get a whole lot to do other than serve as Sans's Joker. It took a while before people to care about them as a character in their own right.

>>719666063
I guess it's just that they are depressed. Even if them being outwardly charismatic was always a key part of their character.
Anonymous No.719666330 >>719666810
>>719666176
it's been a while but iirc bioshock infinite had a pretty positive response initially but started getting flak when people began thinking about it
it's been so long i can't remember it very well though
Anonymous No.719666360
>>719666173
The mike thing probably just got out of control. I really doubt he had some huge plan for Mike that got derailed. Most likely he was just shocked by how popular Spamton was and how hard people gravitated on what was meant to be foreshadowing for his foil in chapter 3.
Anonymous No.719666381 >>719680619
>>719666271
Wrong its
the original starwalker's game
Anonymous No.719666401 >>719666978 >>719668050 >>719668725
>>719666081
>and is actually fairly brisk by video game standards.
is your comparison Duke Nukem Forever? what the fuck. we're talking YEARS on end for 3-4 hours TOPS of gameplay and half of it is padded out by zelda gimmicks and superbosses. i'd even say the pacing is SUFFERING for it, stuff like susie's big super special character arc being over in one chapter and not knowing what to do with her after other than flop between 'bitch' and 'your best friend i wish fucked me in high school forever' or whatever his hangup is, cliffhangers that go nowhere mixed with cliffhangers that exist solely to drum up engagement for the next chapter rather than give any sort of actual foreshadowing because his gimmick has become "suggest something and what actually happens is so far out of left field that no one had the tiniest chance of predicting it."
Anonymous No.719666631 >>719667290
>>719666594
THIS IS NOT A GENERAL, GACHAFAGGOT
Anonymous No.719666651 >>719666835 >>719667079
>>719666272
>2015 Undertale was still mostly the Sans fandom. Chara didn't get a whole lot to do other than serve as Sans's Joker.
Yeah, Chara was basically the DIO to Frisk's and Sans relationship, just wanting to fuck shit up for no reason. Even though I love the earlier fandom, but it did have its flaws.
Anonymous No.719666741
>>719666594
Poor anon doesn't know these threads are self hating whites
Anonymous No.719666810
>>719666330
Bioshock Infinite was just kind of mid. Gaming was just in a VERY bad spot back then, arguably even compared to now. I still think the sheer love the game got was silly but I can at least vaguely understand why it happened.

Infinite mostly suffers from just not really having much to say at the end of the day. It certainly looks like it wants to say a lot, but besides "Racism is bad" and "Alternate universes are cool" it ultimately just doesn't really go anywhere. The big central twist around which so much of the story is build being hypothetically interesting but largely not developed well enough to really tie everything together. It's especially interesting when compared to Bioshock 1, a game that I do feel has largely stood the test of time.
Anonymous No.719666835 >>719667010
>>719666651
Yeah but now I hate sans for trying to fuck Toreil even tho he did the same thing while asgore was stood there in undertales true pacifist ending.
Anonymous No.719666978 >>719667101
>>719666401
>is your comparison Duke Nukem Forever?
No, my comparison in most open world sandbox games or even your average Call of duty campaign.

>we're talking YEARS on end for 3-4 hours TOPS of gameplay and half of it is padded out by zelda gimmicks and superbosses.
You do realize what "Brisk" pacing means, right? The long release time is annoying, I'll admit, but the actual chapters are very well done and don't waste a lot of time.

>cliffhangers that go nowhere mixed with cliffhangers that exist solely to drum up engagement for the next chapter rather than give any sort of actual foreshadowing because his gimmick
Most cliffhangers so far have been huge deal changers, what the hell?
Anonymous No.719667010
>>719666835
Funny how the world revolves like that. I still think Toriel was the one in the wrong there.
Anonymous No.719667079 >>719668018
>>719666651
Earlier fandom was fun but Sans fans did kind of become a meme for a reason.

Really, biggest thing I miss from then is everybody feeling somewhat more relaxed. Undertale being so self contained certainly helped as well.
Anonymous No.719667101 >>719667513
>>719666978
i misread the post as brisk referring to development time, not the serial-sitcom-esque brisk pace of the story itself.
Anonymous No.719667267
TEAM BERDLY LOMBARDI
Anonymous No.719667290 >>719668091
>>719666631
>no discussion of the game
>just off topic rambling and avatarfagging
yes it is
Anonymous No.719667513 >>719667643
>>719667101
Development time is wild, no argument about that. I'm almost jealous of the fucks that waited until the entire game is finished because holy fuck is that going to be a amazing ride.
Anonymous No.719667643
>>719667513
I waited until chapters 3&4 before starting
Anonymous No.719668018 >>719668207 >>719669591
>>719667079
I know it's >Tumblr but this post I saw genuinely explains why I mostly prefer the old fandom compared to the new one.
https://www.tumblr.com/tired-fandom-bs/793158103760764928/wΞΉ-ΞΉΙ³Ι -wΞΉ-ΞΉΙ³Ι 
Anonymous No.719668050
>>719666401
>3-4 hours TOPS of gameplay and half of it is padded out
Not only is that completely false (Ch. 3 + 4 are like ~10-12 hours if you want to see everything), the gameplay isn't padded. Tenna's boards go by incredibly quick if you know what to do, and even then they aren't particularly long; it's like ~20 minutes for Board 1 if you're slow and ~35 for Board 2 if you want to see everything, much faster on a replay, and the boards + minigames are all you're required to do before the final field segment where you traverse the TV World. There's a lot of side content, but you're outright using the term "padding" incorrectly when you aren't actually forced to do much and the stuff you're required to do can be done quickly if you aren't an idiot
>susie's character arc being done in one chapter and not knowing what to do with her
If you think that her character arc is done, you aren't paying attention. Ch. 1 was the most overt development she received, but it's just the impetus for her actual direction as a character in the rest of the game. It began with you seeing her at her lowest, and now she, incredibly attached to the worlds and people that have helped her out of that state will soon have to contend with the fact that those worlds aren't real and those people (Kris) won't always be there for her, or will in fact act against her. It isn't revolutionary, but her character's progression is executed well. Maybe she became too nice too fast, but outside of that she's stayed consistent; she doesn't even flip-flop, she is consistently kind to certain people and apprehensive towards others if she feels threatened by them
>cliffhangers that go nowhere mixed with cliffhangers that offer no actual foreshadowing
Yeah you're right, the end of Ch. 1 had no relevance to the dynamic between Kris and the player that turned out to be central to the game, end of Ch. 2 was actually a nothingburger and had nothing to do with Kris' involvement with the game's main antagonist
Anonymous No.719668091
>>719667290
Cry more.
Anonymous No.719668158 >>719668237
toby ain't gonna fuck you bro
Anonymous No.719668203 >>719668259 >>719672062
>>719661145
Kris is Noelle's loyal, beloved pet!
Anonymous No.719668207 >>719668715
>>719668018
Why did Chara make me not read this?
Anonymous No.719668237 >>719668284
>>719668158
Thing Bad and don't say Thing Good or i'll cry
Anonymous No.719668259 >>719672161 >>719672347
>>719668203
Soul - Dom
Noelle - switch
Kris - bratty sub

This is how our threeway relationship works
Anonymous No.719668284 >>719668645
>>719668237
Thing Good and don't point out things you don't like about Thing, Thing can only be Good. Thing can not have problems. Thing is Ally.
Anonymous No.719668297 >>719668419 >>719668426 >>719668545
What's he doing in Hometown?
Anonymous No.719668419
>>719668297
>Whats he doing in Hometown?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfYyBp4Ln2s&list=RDWfYyBp4Ln2s
Anonymous No.719668426
>>719668297
bagging local sluts until he drifts on to the next town
Anonymous No.719668545
>>719668297
Who fucking cares, I'm sure we'll find out 10 years from now in Deltaune Chapter 8.5: Ha Ha It Was Undertale All Along.
Anonymous No.719668645
>>719668284
>Thing Bad
>No, Thing Good
>Oh so Thing is perfect and I can't offer genuine critique
Thing can have problems but if you want to convince people that you understand what they are you'll have to do better than "guys this Thing fucking sucks because [easily disprovable reasons]"
Anonymous No.719668715
>>719668207
Because you are irony poisoned. Gerson would not be proud of you.
Anonymous No.719668725
>>719666401
>cliffhangers that go nowhere mixed with cliffhangers that exist solely to drum up engagement for the next chapter rather than give any sort of actual foreshadowing
Saying this about a story that's only halfway finished is nonsense. What the fuck do you think you know about where the story's going?
It's a stupid fucking thing to say after Chapter 4 in particular where there's basically no "cliffhanger"/shocking twist ending compared to the first three chapters, and we've been told plenty about what's going to happen in Chapter 5
Anonymous No.719668818 >>719668949
I’m still not playing Deltarune.
Anonymous No.719668901 >>719673205 >>719679240
>>719665447
go play the funny rape route if you want less sus
Anonymous No.719668927 >>719669000 >>719669394 >>719669818
Newsletter hopes/fears?
Anonymous No.719668949
>>719668818
That was always allowed
Anonymous No.719669000
>>719668927
>hopes
this is a pipedream but more optional foreshadowing like the Spamton Sweepstakes website would be cool
>fears
no info on Chapter 5 or direction of the game's development
Anonymous No.719669038 >>719669474 >>719674563
Imagine getting to tease Catti and playing with her fat.
Anonymous No.719669087
>>719665298
>remembers snoot game's story prior to /lit/ putting forth actual criticism
Yeah you may have a point.
Anonymous No.719669158 >>719669325
>>719665702
>We weren't as mentally ill back then.
people were putting needles into cookies over SHIPS. the deltarune fanbase is boring by comparison
Anonymous No.719669181 >>719669284
>>719660641 (OP)
>ralsei makes rooms for catti and jockington
>queen and tenna take them over instead
gay
Anonymous No.719669198
>>719665667
So that's the narrative you're going with, wannabe?
Anonymous No.719669284
>>719669181
>Ralsei makes rooms for everyone
>decorates them all
>his own room is literally empty unless you give him the gift in chapter 2
Anonymous No.719669325 >>719669379 >>719670319
>>719669158
I was talking about internet jokes, but you're right we're never going to reach peak Frans insanity.
Anonymous No.719669379 >>719669553
>>719669325
>pink slippers
Anonymous No.719669394 >>719669471 >>719669520
>>719668927
>hopes
"Hey guys, sorry it took so long, Nintendo paid me much moneys to make it a Switch 2 launch title but now we can develop normally again.
>fears
"Hey guys, have you heard of HOMESTUCK...?"
Anonymous No.719669464 >>719669529 >>719669582 >>719669672 >>719669825
kress is just frans but for mentally unstable men instead of mentally unstable women
Anonymous No.719669471
>>719669394
He really should have waited for the physical release until the game was finished so it could be played without requring internet.
Anonymous No.719669474
>>719669038
i don't want to tease her, i just want to grope the absolude WIDTH of that belly spilling so far to the side
Anonymous No.719669520
>>719669394
>"Hey guys, have you heard of HOMESTUCK...?"
This is almost certainly going to be in, but there's content exclusion tiers specifically so you can avoid things like this
Anonymous No.719669529
>>719669464
It would be funny if dess never shows up
Anonymous No.719669553
>>719669379
Check the steam cards.
Anonymous No.719669582
>>719669464
Kerdly is the real true ship
That and
Ralsriel
Anonymous No.719669591 >>719669967
>>719668018
You see, this shit is very complex for me. I talked about this before, but I do kind of hate it when fandoms completely ignore canon. Especially when they avoid a lot of the elements I find interesting in favor of making it about something it's just not. At the same time, I also do dislike a lot of the fandom policing people do. I know that sounds contractionary as fuck, and it is, but to me it mostly comes down to the way fans act towards others. It's why I have such a massive hate boner towards the Touhou fandom. They turned the entire thing into a shitty pseudo gacha fandom, refuse to even engage with the text, and then have the audacity to get mad at you when you try because they still paradoxically are very attached to the characters they perverted. Basically: I dislike the dolls approach ultimately because I think it weakens overall discussion while also having no patience for people who get angry because you ship Kris and Toriel or whatever.

I also have a pretty complex relationship with AU"s. I basically ran from the fandom like crazy the moment they started becoming popular because I could tell this means they were running out of actual content to discuss and basically didn't look back until Deltarune chapter 1 came out. Since then I've softened somewhat to the concept, ironically partly because of Deltarune being a AU, but still often find them to be be kind of nebulous and boring on average. Putting characters into very different situations can be fun but it also often risks just erasing the character. See Underfell.
Anonymous No.719669672 >>719669805
>>719669464
Kress is just /ss/ for people too cowardly to ship Kris with Carol or Toriel.
Anonymous No.719669702 >>719669870 >>719670183
>Introduce a 3 party battle system
>Pretty much confirmed we are gonna get just 4 party members, 5 if vessel-san is relevant
I may laugh at Toriel FireGrave fags, but i can't really blame people waiting more party members like Catti, but also with the current plot i don't see it possible
Anonymous No.719669805 >>719669904
>>719669672
Kris is for Berdly
Anonymous No.719669818
>>719668927
>hopes
dorag johnson
>fears
toby "john egbert" fox
Anonymous No.719669825 >>719670323 >>719670390
>>719669464
Most women didn't want to be molested by Sans.
Anonymous No.719669870
>>719669702
>Vessal-san
I have a feeling in the weird route were gonna abandon kris for it and kris will be the final boss.
Anonymous No.719669904 >>719669943 >>719669986
>>719669805
Kris and Berdly is a cute ship but I will freely admit that I think Dess actually having raped Kris is more likely to be canon.
Anonymous No.719669943
>>719669904
>more likely to be canon.
Fair point.
Anonymous No.719669967 >>719670290
>>719669591
The problem is that the current fandom understands the characters even LESS than the old one, and they still feel the audacity to harass and correct others when they can't even understand why the monsters don't recognize Frisk as human in genocide when the old fandom did.
Anonymous No.719669986
>>719669904
stupid
Anonymous No.719670183
>>719669702
It's pretty clear that this is going to be a story about Kris/Susie/Noelle/Ralsei, but I really want there to be at least a little fanservice fight against Catti / Jockington, assuming there's a dark world at the festival. Or they're party members for a little bit. I like their concepts so it's a bit sad to see them in Irrelevance Hell
Anonymous No.719670290 >>719671104
>>719669967
The current fandom suffers from taking a unfinished story and taking fan content made about it WAY too seriously. The fact there is a pretty big generational gap between people who played Undertale in 2015 and people who started with Deltarune doesn't help either.

Most of all people need to stop taking shit so seriously. I can get pretty annoyed about fan discourse, but ultimately I tend to just shrug and walk away when I can tell this fandom has no place for me anymore(It's what I did in 2016). I get people are attached to these characters, or at least what they think are these characters, but it's still a silly game at the end of the day. At least 40K is expensive, and even then most 40K fans I've met that actually play the game are more reasonable.
Anonymous No.719670319 >>719670510 >>719670848 >>719679554
>>719669325
Sans 100% went to floweys island.
Anonymous No.719670323
>>719669825
As someone who browsed tumblr before the porn ban, that's fucking wrong
Anonymous No.719670390 >>719670480
>>719669825
Why do you think Underfell existed?
Anonymous No.719670480
>>719670390
underfell actually started with Toriel
Anonymous No.719670510
>>719670319
Asriel
Israel
Flowey is mossad confirmed.
Anonymous No.719670848 >>719671231
>>719670319
>Carol sold Dess to Epstein/Flowey island.
Is that why she's so rich?
Anonymous No.719671104 >>719671308
>>719670290
It's just frustrating. Doubly so when they harass your favorite artists. But you're right it's not THAT serious. Just annoying.
Anonymous No.719671231
>>719670848
Carol is jizzlaine maxwell
Anonymous No.719671238 >>719671386 >>719671673
Anonymous No.719671308 >>719671971
>>719671104
I really don't get the point of harassing fan artists. It's not like the content they already made is just going to disappear.

Though, from a cold and cruel perspective, I do have to admit I can't help but wonder about people posting obviously controversial content on the same account they post everything else. Even if I think it's wrong and you should never harass fan artists, I also can't help but wonder "Well, what did you expect?"
Anonymous No.719671386 >>719671483 >>719671723
>>719671238
It's hilarious how much Kris edgelord antics fail to impress Susie. Especially knowing the same is true for Susie.
Anonymous No.719671389 >>719671450 >>719672137
>Game opens up with you thinking that Kris is the protagonist
>Game starts to make you think it's a subversion and susie is the protag.
>Game subverts again and Kris is the protagonist.
Kino honestly.
Anonymous No.719671447 >>719671567 >>719671585 >>719671608 >>719671676 >>719671971 >>719677337
I just wanna say that Chara fags desperately grabbing at straws to put Chara in deltarune is pathetic, funny, and sad all at the same time.
Anonymous No.719671450
>>719671389
The actual protagonist is going to be a previously unmentioned human.
Anonymous No.719671483 >>719671542
>>719671386
>Kris
>edgelord
Hes just an emo teen.
Susie is unironically way more edgy without even trying
Hell even lancer is more edgy than kris actually is.
Anonymous No.719671542 >>719671701
>>719671483
>Susie is unironically way more edgy without even trying
Yeah, but Kris also seems pretty capable of seeing through her bullshit.

>Hell even lancer is more edgy than kris actually is.
He did try to murder people...
Anonymous No.719671567
>>719671447
For me I want Flowey in deltarune.
Even if it means dead Asriel
Anonymous No.719671585 >>719672038 >>719672080 >>719674781
>>719671447
this will always be the most relevant image relating to deltarune
even years after the game ends people will still try to pin something on chara or gaster
Anonymous No.719671608 >>719671652
>>719671447
Chara is already in the game as Kris.

Also college friends of Asriel theory is cute.
Anonymous No.719671652
>>719671608
>Chara is already in the game as Kris.
Try telling a charafag that and they'll insist otherwise and that they're actually some third party controlling kris.
Anonymous No.719671673
>>719671238
I like the fan version of this scene where it shows Susie realizing Kris could've pulled a blade and turned her into a dragon shishkabob any of the times she was fucking with him and the almost-but-not-quite-smart-enough realization that maybe someday someone will
Anonymous No.719671676
>>719671447
Anonymous No.719671701 >>719671736
>>719671542
>He did try to murder people..
Yeah he did but so did susie.
And noelle if you weird route
Anonymous No.719671723 >>719671796 >>719671915
>>719671386
I think Kris is unironically cool even if he is an emo boy.
Anonymous No.719671736 >>719671860
>>719671701
>Yeah he did but so did susie.
Don't you NOT get a game over if you lose to Susie and lancer?
Anonymous No.719671738 >>719671868 >>719671874 >>719672000 >>719674107
>>719664406
People reading in a tragic backstory for what is effectively the single actual evil character in Undertale will never cease to confuse me.
Anonymous No.719671796
>>719671723
He's a try hard. Also he seems fun to bully, at least as a little kid.
Anonymous No.719671860 >>719671921 >>719671928
>>719671736
In chapter 1 if you dont warn the enemies susie will just auto attack them.
Anonymous No.719671868 >>719672000
>>719671738
I really don't know how you can look at a eight year old going to a mountain to off themselves and not assume there is at least something more to his story than just "Inherently evil".

Even ignoring anything else, like narrator theory or the question if he genuinly cared about Monsters, he obviously must have had a very unpleasant life.
Anonymous No.719671874
>>719671738
>effectively the single actual evil character in Undertale
mettaton
Anonymous No.719671915
>>719671723
I dont
I even named my save file Wesker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgmzkTzlMM8
Anonymous No.719671921 >>719672086
>>719671860
The enemies don't actually die though.

Also Darkeners aren't people.
Anonymous No.719671928
>>719671860
Also everyone she beats the tar out of off-screen before you can even get there (who only don't die/disappear because uhhhhhh)
Anonymous No.719671971 >>719672067 >>719672176
>>719671308
I don't blame them if they aren’t a western. They shouldn't expect their tweets to reach their intended audience for a bunch of 16 year olds on Twitter like pic related.
>>719671447
Chara won't be in Deltarune, Kris is her AU counterpart.
Anonymous No.719671986 >>719676924 >>719681598
>>719665447
>Wanting less of the main character
Anonymous No.719672000 >>719672116 >>719672270
>>719671738
>>719671868
I don't know why people go through the entire game where loads and resets are a diegetic in-universe mechanic, see how mentally fucked Flowey got from all the resets, and then not consider that Chara might have done the same.
Anonymous No.719672009
>>719665447
Fuck off zesty
Anonymous No.719672038
>>719671585
The one that is pointing at the player is more accurately currently.
Anonymous No.719672062 >>719672161 >>719672190 >>719672347
>>719668203
Poor Kris being forced to be the dom
Anonymous No.719672067
>>719671971
To be sure. random foreigners who are basically part of a different fandom is weird.
Anonymous No.719672080
>>719671585
Why would chara make me hover over the attack command and press z?
Anonymous No.719672086 >>719672165 >>719672256 >>719672291 >>719672541 >>719672662 >>719672804
>>719671921
>The enemies don't actually die though.
a bullshit breaking of toby's normally carefully interwoven plot and gameplay mechanics, especially if it at all runs on undertale's rules about 'killing intent' and all that. susie was out for blood, same as a player trying to kill everything, but just because they didn't have the secret noelle magic that actually does allow killing enemies instead of "just making them disappear and non-recruitable which is totally not killing them for the purposes of your stats but is still counted separately compared to pacifying," but because the enemies don't actually die, they're just maimed and scarred for life (poor top chef still hasn't recovered), susie actually did nothing wrong
Anonymous No.719672116
>>719672000
I have considered it, though I find it unlikely for the most part.

Neat plot point in some fan fics though.
Anonymous No.719672137
>>719671389
>Game subverts again and Kris is the protagonist.
[citation needed]
Anonymous No.719672143 >>719672302
Papyrus is the knight.
Anonymous No.719672161
>>719672062
See
>>719668259
Anonymous No.719672165
>>719672086
>especially if it at all runs on undertale's rules about 'killing intent' and all that
tards who assume Deltarune runs on Undertale mechanics deserve to be mocked incessantly
Anonymous No.719672176
>>719671971
*overreach
They shouldn't expect their tweets to overreach their intended audience and reach a bunch of 16 year olds at the other side of the planet.
Anonymous No.719672190
>>719672062
kris doesn't care as long as he's the dog
Anonymous No.719672256 >>719672439 >>719672728
>>719672086
>Susie basically pulls a batman and leaves everyone crippled for life
>but she didnt kill so good on her I guess.
Anonymous No.719672270 >>719672354 >>719672403
>>719672000
Because obviously they didn't they showed up evil and left evil and the entire underground is worse off because of their presence.
This isn't really meant to be ambiguous or anything like that.
Anonymous No.719672291 >>719672728 >>719672805
>>719672086
>susie was out for blood
She really wasn't. She's a thug, not a mass murderer. And killing intent mostly affects monsters, not Darkeners. Ralsei sure as fuck doesn't seem overly affected by killing intent.

>susie actually did nothing wrong
She did plenty wrong but it's hardly mass murder. The worst she did was tell Kris to off himself, and most people let Bakugo get away with that. And also Kris is a bully himself.
Anonymous No.719672302
>>719672143
she's right
Anonymous No.719672307 >>719672506
I want Kris to kiss Asriel
Anonymous No.719672338
>>719660641 (OP)
'rune on the 'log
Anonymous No.719672347
>>719668259
>>719672062
>Kris likes to roleplay as the correctable shota/mesugaki
Anonymous No.719672354 >>719672380
>>719672270
Canonically Chara is with Frisk for every reset even to the point where if you do the genocide run it will literally alter future pacifist endings with charas face.
Anonymous No.719672380 >>719672412
>>719672354
Nope
Anonymous No.719672403
>>719672270
> they showed up evil
Based on what?

>and left evil
They might leave at the end of the true pacifist ending, and they certainly aren't evil there.

>and the entire underground is worse off because of their presence.
Arguably, but it's not like zero humans ever falling down would have been better. It's clear in the short term their existence brought a lot of hope.
Anonymous No.719672412
>>719672380
Yep.

Chara is always with you since the moment frisk wakes up
Anonymous No.719672439 >>719672507 >>719672930 >>719673132 >>719673296
>>719672256
There's this weird thing in the writing where outright killing is Le Evil but everything short is either fine or scrubbed away and it irks me almost entirely because of the bit where King threatens to drop Lancer and it seems like he's actually being the biggest most evil motherfucker around and threatening to kill the kid the same way Susie did and then later we get "oh, Lancer is a silly bouncy boy, he would have been just fine." Like why? What's the point of even adding that? Is it supposed to be a big payoff later on when characters actually start getting merked? IIRC you don't even get that bit until AFTER chapter 2's Dark World shenanigans possibly involving Noelle going murderhobo but my recollection of order of events could be wrong so take that with a grain of salt.
Anonymous No.719672471
>>719663085
kristhina
Anonymous No.719672506 >>719672567 >>719672626
>>719672307
I want Asriel to kiss Chara.
Anonymous No.719672507
>>719672439
> IIRC you don't even get that bit until AFTER chapter 2's Dark World shenanigans possibly involving Noelle going murderhobo but my recollection of order of events could be wrong so take that with a grain of salt.
You do, but unless you use a walkthrough you are not getting the weird route on your first try.
Anonymous No.719672541
>>719672086
you'd have a point if Deltarune actually ran on Undertale's rules and beating up Darkners until they run away was the same as killing them. but there's a reason iceshock / snowgrave do what they do and i think the game is better for it even if it means Susie doesn't get to be the most evil criminal psycho in fiction
Anonymous No.719672567 >>719672690
>>719672506
>Basically set to become Queen of all monsters
>get a 10/10 boyfriend in the process
Evil or not, Chara sure was dumb.
Anonymous No.719672626 >>719672815
>>719672506
>Asriel
Murdered in college

Flowey however
Anonymous No.719672627
>>719662031
So what you're telling us is she's more significant than a character who got his own theme tune, secret boss fight and became an unofficial party member.
Anonymous No.719672662 >>719672701 >>719673009
>>719672086
Susie is an insecure posturing teen bully. She's not a murderer. Don't be an idiot.
Anonymous No.719672690 >>719672752
>>719672567
seething misanthropy and the trauma that caused it will do that to someone
Anonymous No.719672701 >>719672728 >>719672763
>>719672662
>She's not a murderer.
She would have 100% done the genocide run by accident though.
Anonymous No.719672728 >>719672873 >>719672889 >>719673093
>>719672256
she's quirky :)
>>719672291
that's the point i'm making, it's only *not* mass murder because of a bizarre game-mechanic rule that says enemies don't die when they're killed. by any standard RPG rules, including undertale's and the 200 other games Toby played (including MOON), at least half of those darkners would have been just dead. and i get it, toby likes playing with his game mechanics with the FATAL spell and all but at the same time there's still a very Undertale distinction between pacifying and being violent and all in deltarune itself, and why even bother differentiating there if fatality is a separate secret thing? i don't know, i guess i'm not big brained enough to see where he's actually going with this or what message is supposed to be happening here

also didn't jackenstein just fucking die

>>719672701
she literally says she did that in dragon blazers
Anonymous No.719672752
>>719672690
Yeah.

A shame. They could have had a cute shoujo romance.
Anonymous No.719672763 >>719672963
>>719672701
If she was in undertale then nobody would have attacked her because shes also a monster.
However if Susie was human and in undertale yes she would have killed everyone.
Anonymous No.719672804
>>719672086
Susie in ch1 was mostly just edgy, i wouldn't say she had true killing intent
The only thing that doesn't fully makes sense is why she basically told Kris to off himself in the ARG, my only guess is that she hated that he was related to Toriel
Anonymous No.719672805 >>719672869 >>719673035
>>719672291
>The worst she did was tell Kris to off himself,
Anonymous No.719672815
>>719672626
... is for Frisk.
Anonymous No.719672869
>>719672805
it's fine he got off to it
Anonymous No.719672873
>>719672728
I have a feeling at some point violence will start coming with bodies but probably not until we get a real villain.
Anonymous No.719672889
>>719672728
> including undertale's and the 200 other games Toby played (including MOON), at least half of those darkners would have been just dead.
Eh, by Earthbound standards they would be fine.

>and why even bother differentiating there if fatality is a separate secret thing?
I think he himself admitted the whole act system was a leftover from Undertale.
Anonymous No.719672930
>>719672439
i agree that the deflation of King threatening to kill his own child due to his vendetta against lightners is just an unsatisfying writing decision but as far as i'm aware the game doesn't really treat killing as "evil". nothing much happens if you beat up all of the darkners and i guess Tenna / Jack die but that doesn't matter unless you like those characters in which case you'd have incentive to go back and spare them. the weird route so far isn't "killing bad" but "manipulating a person into ruining their life against their will bad", Kris doesn't give a fuck about the darkners but is concerned for Noelle and Berdly
Anonymous No.719672963
>>719672763
>However if Susie was human and in undertale yes she would have killed everyone.
Could have MABYE seen her spare Papyrus though.
Anonymous No.719673009 >>719673035 >>719673096 >>719673134 >>719673150 >>719673292
>>719672662
Susie fags will deny even the bullying part. I remember seeing some retards desperately trying to defend her smashing the piano after she threw a bitch fit.
Anonymous No.719673035 >>719673135
>>719672805
I've personally done worse than shove people against lockers.

>>719673009
I don't. I just think there's a pretty big line between bullying and mass murdering.
Anonymous No.719673093 >>719673591
>>719672728
also isn't MOON's whole thing following the trail of destruction that "the hero" made? now that I think about it it's kinda funny that chapter 1 is kind of like that and toby has talked at great lengths about how much he loves MOON but then it just kind of gets dropped from deltarune entirely. also if you just read the MOON wikipedia page it's hilarious to me how much it sounds like someone asked ChatGPT to describe toby fox's games using on the most relevant keywords.
>Boy must catch the soul that manifests, whereupon the soul is whisked away to the Moon and the Boy obtains "Love". A soul appears during a certain time of day each week.
Anonymous No.719673096 >>719673146 >>719673551
>>719673009
it's not even clear what susie did to the piano
we know she hits it but she isn't even sure if she actually damaged it
Anonymous No.719673132
>>719672439
>the bit where King threatens to drop Lancer and it seems like he's actually being the biggest most evil motherfucker around and threatening to kill the kid the same way Susie did and then later we get "oh, Lancer is a silly bouncy boy, he would have been just fine." Like why? What's the point of even adding that?
To show that Susie is very easily baited by emotional misdirection.
Anonymous No.719673134 >>719673692 >>719674010 >>719677748
>>719673009
Even Ralsei says that Susie isnt "Nice"

*But I'm starting to realize, being friends...
* Is more than that, isn't it?
* Susie... sometimes she isn't nice at all!
* She's selfish, she's rude, she's sarcastic...
* But...
* Isn't it wonderful that she's... her?
* Is what I... started thinking, today.
Anonymous No.719673135 >>719673227
>>719673035
I'm sure you have, probably involving small animals.
Anonymous No.719673137
>no vtubers aren't popular anymore, 2snacks is going to milk Deltarune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7kmYDXz6uE
Anonymous No.719673146
>>719673096
Yeah but it's still a shitty thing to hit something just because someone told you to stop fucking with the piano so someone else who actually knew how to play could do it.
Anonymous No.719673150 >>719673243 >>719673426
>>719673009
why lol, even she admits it was irrational in the scene
a massive part of susie's character is that she's the sort of person to take her anger out on others or her surroundings when things are bad, that's why her having a (somewhat) healthy friendship with kris and ralsei is as impactful as it is and why reveals about kris' true nature may send her back to square 1
Anonymous No.719673205 >>719673307
>>719668901
susie in canon is the most flat bitch ever
Anonymous No.719673227 >>719673310
>>719673135
No, but I did once throw a chair at a girl.

I hate hurting animals. Genuinely struggle with killing flies half the time.
Anonymous No.719673243 >>719673385
>>719673150
Susie is basically Power from chainsawman
Same character
Anonymous No.719673291 >>719673386 >>719673447
Everyone's talking about Susie flipping out over the SOUL reveal or the triple trucies with The Roaring Knight reveal, but I don't think anyone is prepared for a potential Noelle nuclear meltdown when she finds out Kris knew that her missing sister was alive and communicated with Dess for YEARS and never told her.
Anonymous No.719673292 >>719673417
>>719673009
Anon, that's part of the character development tm just like how Kris is working with the enemy, all it's for the big dramatic reveal
Anonymous No.719673296 >>719673380
>>719672439
I don't know I think King is just a big ol bastard that's still a bit silly, I mean he's already lost and just sitting around in his big hamster cage. Susie's still pretty annoyed with him.
Anonymous No.719673307
>>719673205
Well yeah she isnt a mammal
Lizards dont have boobs
Anonymous No.719673310 >>719673456
>>719673227
shoving someone into a locker is unforgivable, but throwing a chair at a girl? you should be sentenced to death. i can't believe we have potential serial killers on this board
Anonymous No.719673380 >>719673480 >>719673513
>>719673296
Reminder that Queen was originally going to be Queen of Spades until toby found out what that means
Anonymous No.719673385 >>719673457
>>719673243
>unruly girl finds companionship and learns to protect those she cares about
it's a good archetype
Anonymous No.719673386
>>719673291
Noelle has about 3 massive meltdowns in the near future.

Her sister being the knight and Kris being aware of it almost feels quaint in comparison to her father being dead or, hypothetically, Susie not reciprocating her crush.
Anonymous No.719673417 >>719673532
>>719673292
I don't mind character development on Susie's part. I mind people trying to be apologists for Susie being a fucking cunt because they wanna fuck her. I wanna take the barney punk to pound town too but I'm not gonna downplay her telling Kris to fucking kill himself.
Anonymous No.719673426
>>719673150
>that's why her having a (somewhat) healthy friendship with kris and ralsei is as impactful as it is and why reveals about kris' true nature may send her back to square 1
Was it Catti who has the line about how Susie is an attack dog that Kris is just holding the leash of? I know everyone loves "haha look they have one brain cell together, look they drank the punch, Toby is a HMOFAchad like me!!" and glosses over that line because Catti is evil and fat and probably British as well but that doesn't sound like a fucking healthy relationship if you actually side with her on the matter and yeah from my point of view that's basically how their friendship is, Kris points and hearts come out or Kris points and Susie attacks. It's her relationship with Ralsei that's the actually interesting one, given that he's not even fucking real (yet).
Anonymous No.719673447 >>719673645
>>719673291
Noelle will become the Angel before that happens.
Anonymous No.719673456
>>719673310
Girl had it coming, frankly.

Still kind of regret doing it.
Anonymous No.719673457 >>719673532
>>719673385
Not saying its a bad thing
But they are basically the same character but only susie gets hate for it which is weird.
Anonymous No.719673480 >>719673530
>>719673380
are you going to post this until people start to believe it
Anonymous No.719673513
>>719673380
I believe it
Anonymous No.719673530
>>719673480
I dont need to
You already do
Anonymous No.719673532
>>719673417
I personally find it hard to feel all that sorry for Kris because 1: He clearly didn't care much. 2: He's a bully himself. Still a dick move on Susie's part though.

>>719673457
Power gets away with it because she's way more fuckable.

I thought CSM was kind of mid, so whatever.
Anonymous No.719673551 >>719673635 >>719673671
>>719673096
>she isn't even sure if she actually damaged it
>* ... I... don't even really know if I broke it, but...
>* I hit it as hard as I could. Hard enough to do some damage.
>* ... and I ran.
Yes, she is. She's trying to downplay her melaninated behavior because she thinks Kris is cool and knows he can play the piano and might take it badly if she mentions destroying one.
Anonymous No.719673591
>>719673093
The entire concept of MOON of the RPG guy that kills monsters and grows stronger feels like Chara's inspiration.
Anonymous No.719673635
>>719673551
>melaninated behavior
Susie is purple aki?
Anonymous No.719673645
>>719673447
Just saying, if I had a missing sister and my childhood best friend knew where she was and that she was alive and not say anything for YEARS, I'd probably kill the both of them.
Anonymous No.719673671 >>719673781 >>719673793 >>719674238 >>719674265
>>719673551
I think it would have been good writing FOR kris to think bad of her about it but still willing to be her friend. It would have made Kris more human lol instead of "THAT'S OKAY SUSIE HEY DO YOU NEED YOUR PUSSY LICKED?" that people try to make kris out to be.
Anonymous No.719673692 >>719673791 >>719673937
>>719673134
i think ralsei has brain damage, to be honest.
>this person is bad in multiple ways I will now list without oxford comma. but isn't it so wonderful that she's "her"?
Anonymous No.719673701 >>719673791 >>719673841 >>719673971
>autismo fails to empathize with a straightforward bully-with-a-heart-of-gold character and starts seething at people who like her because all he understands is "she did bad"
Wow!
Anonymous No.719673781
>>719673671
kris would ask if she needs her sussy ate and i refuse to believe that he would word it any other way
Anonymous No.719673791 >>719673853
>>719673692
>>719673701
lol
Anonymous No.719673793
>>719673671
>that people try to make kris out to be.
inb4 "standing next to susie in the mirror makes you feel like whatever you are is okay.png"
Anonymous No.719673829 >>719673953
susie is the only fun gang member im fine with

the rest should be burn in hell
Anonymous No.719673841 >>719673867
>>719673701
Yeah but she committed the biggest sin of all
She rejected a GAMER
Berdly x Susan forever fornever :'(
Anonymous No.719673853 >>719674007
>>719673791
counterpoint: my autism is not mutually exclusive to ralsei having brain damage
Anonymous No.719673867 >>719673910
>>719673841
who the FUCK is susan?
Anonymous No.719673910
>>719673867
Berdlys love interest
Anonymous No.719673937 >>719674124
>>719673692
is it brain damaged to appreciate someone for who they are in spite of qualities they possess that may seem initially offputting
Anonymous No.719673953 >>719673983
>>719673829
whoops I meant lancer
Anonymous No.719673968 >>719674161 >>719674428
Susie has not apologized for anything, and will never apologize, because she's the mouthpiece for Toby and friends who only converse in the sort of "it's bad that happened but don't you think we should move on? boy, what if we'd been friends earlier?" manner that sideskirts any responsibility for wrongdoing while shaming the victim for harping on the past. It's a very leftist trait.
Anonymous No.719673971 >>719674161 >>719674707
>>719673701
You missed the point. The point isn't "you're not allowed to empathize with bully" the point is is that Susie did some shitty things and that's okay, but downplaying those things because "OMG SUSIE!!!!" is exactly how you end up like the deer simp who can't shut up about her and thinks she can't do no wrong.
Anonymous No.719673983 >>719674081
>>719673953
Whoops I meant SOULChad
Anonymous No.719673995 >>719674195 >>719674276 >>719674374 >>719674635 >>719680978 >>719681024
If we're gonna start getting mad, let's do it propely
Anonymous No.719674007
>>719673853
Liking a person despite them having some negative qualities is normal
Thinking you can't like someone if they've ever done wrong in their life is brain damage, a kind very common among the young generation ravaged by autism
Anonymous No.719674010
>>719673134
ralsei is in love with susie, (NOT IN MY WATCH BITCH)
Anonymous No.719674081 >>719674112
>>719673983
the soul is Y O U
Anonymous No.719674101 >>719674365
I really want to see that doe finally filled with homicidal rage. I want her to freeze Hometown over, Weird Route or otherwise. She deserves to have a killstreak.
Anonymous No.719674107
>>719671738
nigga if chara is evil in your game that's your fault, I taught my easily influenced vulnerable spirit love and kindness and shit and she was just a sassy narrator for me
Anonymous No.719674112
>>719674081
Yeah and im the best fun gang member.
Anonymous No.719674124 >>719674186
>>719673937
ralsei's drug is being told that he's real (he isn't) and that he matters (he doesn't), and susie is his dealer who gives him validation- especially now with her literally shouting at him that he's real while turning to the camera because she loves the dark worlds so much- so he's willing to overlook not just her personal flaws but the fact there's a reasonable possibility she's not even supposed to be there in the first place, going so far as hiding prophecy parts and breaking the actual written version, so long as susie keeps feeding his sadly mistaken idea that darkners have a bigger purpose
Anonymous No.719674154
>>719665667
Given how often Deltarune threads get deleted despite discussing video games and not having the problems that generals tend to have, the logical conclusion is the opposite.
Anonymous No.719674161 >>719674351
>>719673971
Who's downplaying anything?
All I'm seeing is you and >>719673968 make wild exaggerations and bad-faith interpretations of the story to attack the most popular and universally liked character in the story because you know it will get you (You)s
Anonymous No.719674186
>>719674124
Ralsei is real
SHUT UP
Anonymous No.719674195
>>719673995
I like it
Anonymous No.719674238
>>719673671
Kris also loved to tease her, eating the apple that she threw was a death sentence and he did it anyways
Anonymous No.719674254
I actually think Chapter 1's Susie arc ended to quickly. She's not asshole enough.
Anonymous No.719674265 >>719674390 >>719674396 >>719674487 >>719674559 >>719680747
>>719673671
What about Kris makes you think he's the type of person who cares about Pianos being broken if they don't belong to him? Kris isn't some kind of morale fag either. If he wasn't under player control he would probably act just as violent as Susie.
Anonymous No.719674276
>>719673995
Robot on the right has tiddys
Anonymous No.719674351
>>719674161
maybe the fans and their most popular/liked character are actually wrong, or maybe just stupid (see: homophobic carol and the very concept of lesbians existing being enough for his fanbase to suck his dick forever)
Anonymous No.719674365
>>719674101
I just weirdroute Noelle to watch Rudy die only to realize she no longer cares.
Anonymous No.719674374
>>719673995
They're overhated.
Anonymous No.719674390 >>719674423 >>719674915 >>719675013
>>719674265
Kris isn't a violent person. The most violent he's to is (you) and he hates (you) more than anyone else.
Anonymous No.719674396 >>719674487 >>719674912 >>719675013
>>719674265
from what we can tell from snowgrave kris seems to be averse to violence
he's tease and prank people all day any day, but physically hurting them seems too far for him
Anonymous No.719674423
>>719674390
I despise Kris
Anonymous No.719674428
>>719673968
Susie verbally apologizing in one of those "you don't know how much i need you" scenes would be cute but it's clear that she is Ride Or Die with Kris and Ralsei after the spade king fight. Telling Kris she's sorry and acting all bashful wouldn't achieve anything that "get away from my friend" and putting her life on the line to protect Kris didn't
Anonymous No.719674470 >>719674852 >>719674995
Is jockington getting more and more retarded as the game progresses? It seems like he's getting more and more brain damaged as the game goes.
Anonymous No.719674487 >>719674540 >>719674790 >>719675013 >>719675921
>>719674265
I enjoy the fact that someone made a game where the player character is actually just a violent and manipulative sociopath with good optics and 90% of the playerbase either brushes past it because they don't actually speak or tries to chalk it up to the spiritual existence of another character from a different game.
>>719674396
>he missed the Mantle laughing at Kris and pointing out he enjoys the violence so long as he doesn't get caught enjoying it
Anonymous No.719674540 >>719674678
>>719674487
>he believe a word mantle said when it was actively taunting kris
remember, darkners know about (you)
Anonymous No.719674559 >>719674631 >>719678950
>>719674265
Bullying Noelle until she likes it!
Anonymous No.719674563
>>719669038
>no way this can hold me
>laying on it anyways
Anonymous No.719674631
>>719674559
>until
Anonymous No.719674635
>>719673995
Who?
Anonymous No.719674678
>>719674540
But eram says that even if you don't do the weird route
Anonymous No.719674707 >>719675083
>>719673971
what bad things she did?
Be a horrible student? Bully Kris? Break up with us after meeting Lancer?
not even the actual kris or ralsei cares about that shit anymore
Anonymous No.719674781
>>719671585
But Gaster WILL be the secret true final boss and his fight WILL have 6 phases
Anonymous No.719674790 >>719675239
>>719674487
>the mantle was 100% correct
obviously there's truth to what it was saying since it seems familiar with kris but you're supposed to take it with a grain of salt the same way the game isn't literally calling you a terrible person when flowey makes a joke about people watching the genocide run. the mantle has some investment in believing that kris is actually fucked up deep down but from what we've seen kris is just a teenager with a lot of baggage and the capacity for violence but not someone who indulges in it
Anonymous No.719674852 >>719674995
>>719674470
I don't know but honestly what the fuck is up with his dialogue now, it doesn't even work as spoken text. Him and Catti both feel like they were ghost written or something and the script was an empty sheet that said "Catti likes the occult, Jockington doesn't know how, to use, commas."
Chapter 1
>We SEEM different, but me and Catti have a TON, In common!
>We both like breathing, and unhinging our jaws!
Chapter 4
>Today's Game was wild,! I think we Won... What? "Codes?"
>Sorry. don't know That. Never will. Been real.
>For her, I go the big Church Match, as her Substitute Player.
>For me, she Covered in Hair Always. We Do What, the other can n't!
Toby what did you do to my long green boy
Anonymous No.719674868 >>719675151
I think it would have been really nice if this game had pixelated cutscenes like OMORI or FAITH had for some of the more serious moments with Kris specifically
Anonymous No.719674912 >>719675053 >>719675093 >>719675108 >>719675289
>>719674396
the most progressive thing toby has done is show that verbal and mental abuse doesn't actually exist and you can even make them like it after long enough and it doesn't leave scars like physical violence does so people will still like you
Anonymous No.719674915
>>719674390
Eram disagrees.
Anonymous No.719674995 >>719675031
>>719674470
>>719674852
it was revealed to me in a dream
Anonymous No.719675013 >>719675180
>>719674390
>Kris isn't a violent person
Yeah, he is. Possibly even to the point of having actual sadistic tendencies.

>>719674396
He's averse to harming Noelle, a close childhood friend. Even then, at least in the past, he didn't seem to mind causing both her and Asriel genuine grief. He also gives zero fucks if you go around beating up all of the Darkeners.

People often confuse his actions during the weird route with him having some kind of genuine morale stance and not just the fact that he dislikes you harming somebody he personally knows. I don't see much to indicate that he has some kind of genuine aversion to bullying or violence.

>>719674487
Most of it is just the weird route making the player worse.
Anonymous No.719675031
>>719674995
god, bless,
Anonymous No.719675053 >>719675164
>>719674912
i think with noelle specifically it was the care afterwards that made her start enjoying it
unfortunately it turned her into a freak because she equates the two now
Anonymous No.719675083
>>719674707
>not even the actual kris or ralsei cares about that shit anymore
Yeah, Kris and Ralsei have implicitly forgiven her because they have more important things going on than hurt feelings. If a girl that bullied you ended up fighting to save you and then excitedly asked you to hang out with her again tomorrow you probably wouldn't need verbal confirmation that she no longer feels negatively about you or whatever purpose apologies are supposed to serve. It's nice to have admissions of fault but only people with problems NEED them to forgive someone
Anonymous No.719675093 >>719676196
>>719674912
Neither does genocide since people still love Chara and Flowey
Anonymous No.719675108
>>719674912
Noelle does seem genuinly affected by his pranks though considering her personality and machoistic tendencies. Best you can argue Carol was probably a bigger influence.
Anonymous No.719675151
>>719674868
>I think it would have been really nice if this game had pixelated cutscenes like OMORI or FAITH had for some of the more serious moments with Kris specifically
I dunno man, that cutscene with the Titan's hand makes me feel like we're gonna get more of those kinds of super-smooth FAITH-tier cutscenes
Anonymous No.719675164
>>719675053
She turned into a freak because all of the people she used for aftercare are slowly fading away and she now wants somebody who can do both.
Anonymous No.719675180 >>719675315
>>719675013
I think I've said it before but I'm leaning towards the idea that he isn't actually against the Noelle abuse- he's against the fact that it's YOU doing it. Not even the fact that you're using his body to do it, but that it's someone else period who's doing it, and he hates that you took over and found out just how far she can be pushed before her brain snaps into pure obedience when he never had the balls to do it himself. Basically, "It should have been me!"
Anonymous No.719675239
>>719674790
He doesn't indulge in it, but he is a violent person by nature. Repression doesn't change the fact that Kris does actually enjoy harming people and part of the reason why you can do the weird route is because some part of him secretly kind of wants it.
Anonymous No.719675289 >>719675403 >>719675485 >>719676872
>>719674912
would it kill you to not interpret things in the worst possible light and then assume that it's a stance the developer fully believes is correct? past the passive-aggressive shit you're basically just saying that Kris and Noelle have an abusive dynamic which isn't really the case unless you equate pranks to targeted harassment
Anonymous No.719675313
none of noelle's freakiness (freak family freak family) or masochism will ever amount to anything other than shipping/porn bait. it isn't seen as a serious issue in any way. the game will end with noelle and susie hooking up and noelle going 'fahaha i'm not afraid anymore.' the end.

bitches
Anonymous No.719675315
>>719675180
I think he's against it because, despite everything, he was trying to make sure he didn't indulge in his worst tendencies. In the weird route, he hates you for rendering all of his efforts moot, he hates himself for enjoying it, and he probably hates Noelle for making it so easy.
Anonymous No.719675402
>>719661358
*Anon's Idea
Anonymous No.719675403 >>719675628
>>719675289
>past the passive-aggressive shit you're basically just saying that Kris and Noelle have an abusive dynamic which isn't really the case unless you equate pranks to targeted harassment
They don't have a abusive relationship because Kris made sure they had no relationship. Not to say they would 100% would have had a abusive relationship otherwise but it's still pretty noticeable.

Kris as a kid was a weirdo and you could argue a lot of his prank crossed lines, but he was ultimately still a kid and he was at least some distance away from actually snapping the necks of baby kittens.
Anonymous No.719675485
>>719675289
>would it kill you to not interpret things in the worst possible light and then assume that it's a stance the developer fully believes is correct?
that one was mostly a sarcastic shitpost like the "suselle is so progressive that it looped back to 1950s teen rebel films" one but yes, it wouldn't kill me but it would hurt me to not speak what i believe to be the truth based on what toby has said in his few english interviews, his game mod write-up and the types of ideas he seems to have the strongest affinity for putting into games
Anonymous No.719675628
>>719675403
Only because the few cats in town have necks too fat to snop.
Anonymous No.719675843
the abuser shit is why i'm glad tumblr blog analyses fell out of mainstream
Anonymous No.719675921 >>719675967 >>719676027
>>719674487
I don't think it was the violence Kris enjoyed so much as the "getting stronger" part of all of that. Kind of like how the people who felt bad for offing Papyrus in a geno route felt rewarded when Frisk got stronger and got more levels. If the game is as diegetic as Undertale was, how good do you think "getting stronger" feels?
Anonymous No.719675967
>>719675921
>I don't think it was the violence Kris enjoyed so much as the "getting stronger" part of all of that.
But Kris doesn't get stronger, Noelle does.
Anonymous No.719676027
>>719675921
like getting jerked off by the world's greatest milking machine while plugged while getting fucked by a VR futaSusie while on 20x potency fentanyl
kris is upset in the weird route because they didn't know this shit existed before we did it
Anonymous No.719676179 >>719676274 >>719676369 >>719676784
I wonder if the fandom will one day be able to think about Kris and actions/personality honesty without falling into either extreme...
Anonymous No.719676196 >>719676398
>>719675093
Flowey only kills Asgore during the entire game, and not even that sticks around.
Anonymous No.719676274
>>719676179
I have faith that when the full, finished game releases, people will actually look at these characters with more nuance, because a lot of takes really do hinge on people thinking that they've "figured it out" and are trying to predict shit ahead of time
Anonymous No.719676369
>>719676179
Japanese games only have extremes.
Anonymous No.719676398 >>719676861 >>719676998 >>719677831
>>719676196
Flowey has killed everyone in the underground a million times over, he just abuses resets.
Anonymous No.719676464 >>719676698 >>719676941 >>719676976
What the fuck is her problem?
Anonymous No.719676698 >>719676801 >>719681137
>>719676464
lack of BBC
Anonymous No.719676784
>>719676179
>why did Kris make me do this?
Anonymous No.719676801
>>719676698
big brunette cock
Anonymous No.719676861 >>719677204 >>719677264 >>719678353
>>719676398
Not Asgore he specifically says he could never get past him, until you weaken him
Anonymous No.719676872 >>719676921
>>719675289
>abusive dynamic
I mean, acting abusive is what forced Kris to comfort her and made Noelle wonder if he wanted things to go back to how they were before, Kris once again starts avoiding her if you don't proceed, i feel like it's a plot point
Anonymous No.719676921 >>719677061
>>719676872
Tough love
Feel like Kris dad at this point.
Anonymous No.719676924 >>719676986
>>719671986
The sex symbol of "The !#@* Squad!"
Anonymous No.719676941
>>719676464
Kris fucked her up with her pranks.
Anonymous No.719676976
>>719676464
She got a fetish from Kris.
Anonymous No.719676986 >>719677261
>>719676924
Im sure you mean
The Legendary Heroes: The Herald of Fun and Friendship
Anonymous No.719676998 >>719677080
>>719676398
>Flowey canonically murdered Dess, Noelle, Suzy.
Based.
Anonymous No.719677061 >>719677335
>>719676921
You basically are Kris's dad. Deltarune is a fantastic simulator of what it's like to look after a trouble teenager.
Anonymous No.719677080
>>719676998
Flowey is LITERALLY ME
Anonymous No.719677204 >>719677335 >>719677513 >>719679162
>>719676861
>Killed Undyne (Possibly undying)
>Killed Mettaton
>Killed Sans
>Killed everybody
>Lost to Asgore
How?
Anonymous No.719677261
>>719676986
"The tale of Rouxls Kaard, and the Three Heroes!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnuLatQevdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpRCZDNCZkQ&list=RDtpRCZDNCZkQ&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.719677264
>>719676861
Damn, nigga fucking SUCKS at the game.
Anonymous No.719677335
>>719677061
If Blue Soul was my dad, things would be different around here.

>>719677204
After being poisoned once already, Asgore had a resistance to yellow flowers.
Anonymous No.719677337 >>719679207
>>719671447
Chara WILL show up in Ch5 as Asriel's college friend trust the plan
Anonymous No.719677421 >>719677576
>Holiday family uses ice magic
>Dreemurr family uses fire magic
kino parallelism...
Anonymous No.719677467
>>719660641 (OP)
She's going to grow giant and unbirth Jockington.

This will have nothing to do with the story or lore.
Anonymous No.719677469
"Holy fucking shit, Dess, get me a fucking pizza!"
Anonymous No.719677513 >>719677621 >>719677957
>>719677204
asgore is the monster other than gerson who fought in the human/ monster war
and considering those humans were likely adults, asgore clearly is no slouch in combat to fight one and live, and given that it was a full scale war it was probably more than one
he only dies in genocide because of a cheap shot he wasn't expecting
when he's not sandbagging he could probably play someone like sans like the xylophone without breaking a sweat, frisk probably would've gotten oneshot by him
Anonymous No.719677576
>>719677421
>Asriel and Dess's child
Anonymous No.719677621
>>719677513
I mean, going by his actual stats he would be a borderline impossible boss normally but no match for Frisk/Chara at the end of the genocide route.
Anonymous No.719677692 >>719678051
"Ralsei, Gaster's escaped! Recruit me a team of teenagers with mental disorders!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwbHW8MeHDU&list=RDBwbHW8MeHDU&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.719677748 >>719677868
>>719673134
>Susie gradually starts opening up more and developing an interest in healing magic thanks to ralsei
>Meanwhile Ralsei is enamored with susie and is slowly learning to value himself thanks to her
Ralsei's going to end up growing a pair and either telling kris or (YOU) to fuck off isn't he
Anonymous No.719677831
>>719676398
Yeah, but all off-screen and they don't even stay dead.
Anonymous No.719677868 >>719678037
>>719677748
With Kris working for the Knight and Susie obviously being posed to have her heart and spirit broken it actually wouldn't surprise me if Ralsei ends up saving the day.
Anonymous No.719677957 >>719678029
>>719677513
Chara one-shots him regardless at LOVE 20. You underestimate the power of the Real Knife and Locket.
Anonymous No.719678029 >>719678052 >>719678358 >>719681395
>>719677957
i thought it was flowey who got him in an attempt to appease frisk/ chara
or am i misremembering
Anonymous No.719678037
>>719677868
ralsei is definitely going to have a big roll in the weird route
Anonymous No.719678051 >>719678089 >>719678102 >>719678785 >>719679447
>>719677692
"That's ""ATTITUDES" dumbass!! And why the HELL AM I WEARING THE PINK RANGER OUTFIT!!?"
Anonymous No.719678052
>>719678029
You one shot him, but Flowey finished him off.
Anonymous No.719678089
>>719678051
>"Shut up susie you fucking nigger."
Anonymous No.719678102 >>719678395
>>719678051
>"Well, you are the girl of the group..."
>"GIVE IT TO RALSEI!"
Anonymous No.719678289
>>719664825
I think it's simply that ut/dr mostly only attracts autistic whites, for better and worse. The brown sub 100 iq troglodytes that infest this board just don't click on threads.
Anonymous No.719678353
>>719676861
Doesn't say that, he says he couldn't get Asgore to show him the souls.
Anonymous No.719678358
>>719678029
Chara one-shots him when he's off-guard. Regardless, Asgore is too weak to hang out with LOVE 20 Chara.
Anonymous No.719678395 >>719678785
>>719678102
"I-I think I look cuter in green, though, right, Kris? I think it suites you, Susie!"
Anonymous No.719678785
>>719678395
>>719678051
>"S-Susie... I wouldn't mind wearing the pink outfit. Y-You can have the Yellow one!"
>("Susie's smell is probably still all over it....")
Anonymous No.719678950 >>719679029
>>719674559
why is she like this
Anonymous No.719679001
Anonymous No.719679029
>>719678950
It's a consistent character flaw of her. She's a very fixated person.

Look at how quickly she stops caring about Susie when her and Kris reconnect.
Anonymous No.719679162
>>719677204
Maybe Asgore used the souls against flowey.
Its clearly possible to use less than 7 souls, both flowey and asriel do it
Anonymous No.719679207
>>719677337
Chara will get Asriel killed and Flowey will be back in chapter 7
Anonymous No.719679240 >>719679478
>>719668901
>kiss the my ass
What's "the my ass"?
Anonymous No.719679447
>>719678051


Subes is the purple flavor.
Anonymous No.719679478 >>719679659
>>719679240
susie's illiterate please understand
Anonymous No.719679554 >>719680024
>>719670319
WHERE'S THE SO SORRY LIST
Anonymous No.719679659 >>719679929 >>719680054 >>719681306
>>719679478
why has society decided that being stupid is hot
Anonymous No.719679929 >>719680667
>>719679659
I love dopey ladies with retard strength. I find them endearing. We need more in fiction.
Anonymous No.719680024
>>719679554
You will never get the list
Napstablook saved over it with his mixtape.
Anonymous No.719680054 >>719680131
>>719679659
because most educated girls turn into turbo bitches thanks to third wave feminists in the education system having unchecked influence on them
Anonymous No.719680131 >>719680804
>>719680054
I'd say an "educated" girl is about as dumb as dumb gets. An uneducated girl is just a girl with common sense and good instincts.
Anonymous No.719680345 >>719680549 >>719680662 >>719680667 >>719680958 >>719681054 >>719681460
>Kris is second smartest of the class, and decent at street smarts too, but is a complete social moron without the SOUL
>Susie has great street smarts and quick thinking but is totally book and nearly socially illiterate
>Noelle is the smartest on books, but also very inept at socials or thinking on her feet.
>Berdly despite looks, is not very smart on books, but somehow the most socially competent of the group
>Ralsei is very smart and knowledgeable with Dark world stuff, but not that good with thinking smart or dealing with Lightners
is this correct?
Anonymous No.719680549
>>719680345
And Spamton is the [[NUMBER 1 RATED SALESMAN 1997]]
Anonymous No.719680619 >>719680895 >>719681612
>>719666381
imagine not finding Starwalker in chapter 1 and missing out the real game
Anonymous No.719680662
>>719680345
Yes, but you forgot to mention that he loves fabric softener.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ruwWscNhPc
Anonymous No.719680667 >>719681128
>>719679929
Just let this happen Toby.

>>719680345
>social moron
That's the worst part: He knows what he's doing is wrong. He's just too depressed to care. He's like that goth doomer in class saying that he's casting spells in hopes for a nuclear war.

Only Kris has the option to actually do it. He's not just a social moron, he's outright a misanthrope working toward the end of everyone because his feeweings fweel bad :(
Anonymous No.719680747 >>719681587 >>719681685 >>719681706
>>719674265
Autists are, ironically, unable to comprehend Kris properly. Kris does not speak to us or otherwise give direct clear statements on what they are feeling and why they're doing what they do, so our understanding of Kris as a character and person relies heavily on contextual inferences and statements made by other people about Kris. This is very difficult for autists who often fail to recognize the larger context of events and subtleties within those events unless they're directly pointed out, and have difficulty understanding the relationships between people.
"Kris likes piano" is a stated fact, which means it's clearly understood by autists and highly valued in their understanding of Kris as a character. "Kris likes Susie a lot" is something that they have some awareness of, but they don't understand why Kris likes Susie or how that affects how Kris and Susie interact.
When Susie confided in Kris her story about wanting to play the piano, being told off, feeling resentful and wrecking it, what the autist understands is that "Susie did something bad" to "something Kris likes," so they think that Kris should be upset with Susie. They don't understand that Kris being a piano player does not at all imply Kris would care about an anecdotal piano Kris has never seen or touched, or that Kris can deeply relate to Susie's sense of feeling prejudice and being outcast given their own situation in Hometown, or that Kris would understand her having a violent outburst in a very upsetting situation, something almost any teenager would have experienced and potentially even happens with Kris minutes before hearing this.

Understanding the autistic mind lets you decode like 90% of stupid fan discourse, some people are just incapable of even trying to understand why other people act the way they do.
Anonymous No.719680804
>>719680131
i've been telling people for years why it seems like people don't have common sense these days is because it's actively being taught out of them by the school system
social media also hampers it, but if you've already developed it you can cut through the bullshit
Anonymous No.719680895
>>719680619
i legitimately cannot imagine chapter 3 without starwalker
it feels like half the gags in the chapter have him involved in some way
Anonymous No.719680958 >>719681129
>>719680345
Berdly is the smartest and has nipples.
Anonymous No.719680978
>>719673995
I get now why people hate them so much, they're basically merch bait, Toby probably asked their creator "make some dipshits that could sell pins" and this is the result
Anonymous No.719681024 >>719681087 >>719681802
>>719673995
K_K is just a tall, dopey girl in my head canon.
Anonymous No.719681054
>>719680345
Kris's way with words suggests he's not unskilled, socially. He's just withdrawn, either purposefully or due to depression. I'm still leaning towards the "Kris plans to be the one sacrificed and doesn't want Noelle to be sad about it" theory
Anonymous No.719681087 >>719681190
>>719681024
tity speakers
Anonymous No.719681128 >>719681290
>>719680667
Kris' misanthropy is one of his most interesting traits honestly. Sets him apart from other characters immediately, sorta similar to Flowey. But with Kris we don't know exactly what caused this in him so it makes him quite intriguing. Kris being a misanthrope also makes his relationships quite interesting. Like with Noelle, he seemingly hates the world but would literally do everything to protect her. And the hope that Susie makes him feel as well as how in just a few short days she's become his closest friend. Will Susie be able to redeem Kris? Or will Kris follow whatever plan was established before chapter 1?
Anonymous No.719681129 >>719681382
>>719680958
Berdly is actually Falco's son
Anonymous No.719681137
>>719676698
sorry kid, I don't broadcast brittish channels
Anonymous No.719681190
>>719681087
Exactly, from the day Chap 2 dropped, I always considered K_K to be a big titty dumbass with a heart of gold cds.
Anonymous No.719681290 >>719681638
>>719681128
I think that's part of why there's so much confusion over his character. He's a contradictory kid who is living the life of a teen who really was given superpowers. He acts depressed and aloof, seemingly pushing his friends away and not stopping (Us) when we're going on a rampage killing half of the Dark world. Yet he'll gladly drop the faΓ§ade and run to his friends side if he thinks she's hurt.

That's why I think there are so many shallow takes on him that boil down to "player le bad, kris le good!"
Anonymous No.719681306 >>719681554
>>719679659
i can't speak for society but Susie's stupidity is endearing because she's an earnest girl who's quite emotionally vulnerable but acts tough to compensate. i guess it's less about the stupidity itself being attractive and more about the idea that "stupid people" wouldn't bother with social games and would be more direct in expressions of affection and general interaction. i don't know if this sort of thing is applicable to real people since being stupid just makes most more malicious but it sure is to idealized "dumb" fictional characters
Anonymous No.719681382
>>719681129
>Martlet's
Anonymous No.719681395 >>719681495
>>719678029
>Charas level of violence is canonically higher than Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan and Nero
Anonymous No.719681451
>>719660641 (OP)
realistically, probably not
we're halfway through the game and have a ton of unresolved story threads already, the only Lightners that are gonna get the spotlight from now on are the ones that are already set up as important (Sans, Asgore, Dess, etc)
Anonymous No.719681460 >>719681609 >>719681694
>>719680345
>Susie has great street smarts
what
Anonymous No.719681495 >>719681620
>>719681395
none of these personally killed more a few couple by their own hand (except maybe Genghis), they just ordered others to do the killing
Anonymous No.719681554
>>719681306
> i don't know if this sort of thing is applicable to real people since being stupid just makes most more malicious but it sure is to idealized "dumb" fictional characters
not necessarily, you can be extremely naive and trusting in a way that comes off as stupidity due to believing in human nature to generally do good things to others. That's why so many people fall for scams.
Anonymous No.719681565 >>719681632 >>719681694 >>719681707
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Anonymous No.719681587 >>719681656
>>719680747
[headcanon]
Anonymous No.719681598
>>719671986
God she's such a retard. I love her.
Anonymous No.719681609
>>719681460
she knows where the best and free-est milk is
Anonymous No.719681612
>>719680619
>missing out the original game
Anonymous No.719681620
>>719681495
hitler was in ww1, so he might've killed someone on the job, although idk how much direct combat couriers saw
stalin was a street thug so he 100% killed people himself
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Anonymous No.719681632
>>719681565
was this your post that got deleted?
>>719663963
lmao
Anonymous No.719681638
>>719681290
It's so funny how people insist to leave Kris alone when Kris clearly needs the Soul even in weird
Anonymous No.719681656
>>719681587
he's right though
Anonymous No.719681685
>>719680747
>or that Kris can deeply relate to Susie's sense of feeling prejudice and being outcast given their own situation in Hometown
I understand that Kris can relate to Susie's feelings of being an outcast. I just also understand that it's both of their own goddamn faults and that there is not a single god damn person in the Town of Hometown that has said so much as heads or tails about Kris being a weird human other than Susie herself and even then she just calls him a freak because calling him a human would be too close to racism for Toby's fans.
Anonymous No.719681694
>>719681460
Street smarts in the way where she knows how to find food and places to sleep in the street and she's tough enough to keep people who might hurt her away
>>719681565
lol
Anonymous No.719681706
>>719680747
>autists explained by a normie
Lmao its like an American explaing Europe
Anonymous No.719681707
>>719681565
ANYTHING
ANYTHING BUT TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
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Anonymous No.719681802
>>719681024
>he can't handle a fine pair of boyboobs
Anonymous No.719681853
Are we ready for this to be canon in a year?