Thread 719688635

>>719688635 (OP)
Never will be. Elden Slop ensured that.

>>719688635 (OP)
i tried playing DS2 after this and lose interest like 1/4 of the way in. you're right there's something about it thats better

>>719688635 (OP)
this game and demon's are both masterpieces

>>719688635 (OP)
Dark Souls 1 is the worst souls-like FromSoft game. I'll never understand how people can enjoy it aside from nostalgia. Every game that came after has been an objective improvement in most aspects (all the ways that matter anyway) and are generally more enjoyable and well designed on a moment to moment basis.

>>719688635 (OP)
What's that big building near Andre's?

>>719688635 (OP)
it has though
what makes lordran so much better than all the others? half of it is unfinished and does not connect to anything, the other half is connected by elevators. Resident Evil and Silent Hill have better interconnected levels than Dark Souls

>>719689525
What has it been topped by?

PLUNGING ATTACK!1

>>719688635 (OP)
i dont even know aht that game is bro

>>719689525
Its the most naturally interconnected world

>>719689351
probably the basement hall where you fight the janky statue. on the way to the ganking forest

>another Dark Souls 1 nostalgiafag thread
Game was barely worth a single playthrough

>>719689556
most soulsbornekiroringlike games

>>719689625
what does that even mean

>>719689660
>what does that even mean

>>719689261
This but reverse the value of every statement.

>>719689645
Oh, that's right.

>>719689660
Not a single soulsbornekiroringlike is better than Dark Souls 1.

>>719689351
The hall where you fight a Titanite Demon

>>719689687
>natural
>long empty hallways and elevators to force two levels to connect
na, that doesnt work

>>719689797
okay, but dark souls 1 level design wasn't impressive then and it still isnt and has been surpassed

>>719689797
The games only get better with each release because Fromsoft just shits out incremental changes on the same game
So Elden Ring is the best one, by nature

>>719689853
>has been surpassed
by which game?

>>719689853
>dark souls 1 level design wasn't impressive
Perhaps on opposite day.
>>719689864
>The games only get better with each release
This but the opposite. Each release is a more extreme pastiche and parody of DkS1. Elden Ring reepresents the reductio ad absurdum and complete degeneration; end of the line.

>>719689917
most soulsbornekiroringlike games

>>719689969
Let's agree to disagree.

>>719689864
the fact you consider changing from intelligent level design to empty open world an incremental change or improvement completely invalidates your opinion

>>719689962
We get it, you're a retarded pseud and a replacement body for OoT boomers

>>719689969
This is an invalid predication.

>>719688635 (OP)
i just started playing dark souls 3 for the first time and it was so dogshit i tried dark souls 1 for the first time in 12 years and now im about to beat it. Nioh series is infinitely better but DS1 is very soulful and feels perfect for what it is.

>>719690030
Not a valid argument. Your concession on these matters has been duly noted.

>>719690019
>muddafuggin I open da door and end up somewhere else I been already
>dats all dat matters
Only retards are impressed by this

>>719690079
>argue
>with retards
No thanks, retard, re-evaluate your worth

>>719690108
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>>719688635 (OP)
L O N D O R
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>>719690185
Cool schizoposting, retard, Im just going to call Dark Souls 1 shit from here on out

>>719690242
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>>719690256
Demon's Souls 2 is shit, it is a slower version of 6 and outdated. Only retards would still enjoy it.

>>719690083
>he says after admitting he thinks empty open worlds are an improvement
nice self-own

>>719690331
>fat retard posts a fat retard
Demon's Souls 2 is shit, it is a slower version of 6 and outdated. Only retards would still enjoy it.

I like all the dark souls games

>>719689742
The abyss isn't such a mystery, it's just where all human souls sink after they leave the body, the reason it's at the bottom is because humanity is heavy, it's like gravity.

>>719690409
>muh lore not like your lore muddafugger
Imagine caring about this shit in 2025, must be retarded

>>719690353
>>719690472
kek actually seething
calm down lil buddy

>>719690512
Demon's Souls 2 is shit, it is a slower version of 6 and outdated. Only retards would still enjoy it.

>>719690472
I just dumped my girlfriend and have nothing left to live for except the 4 video games I religiously replay every year, one of them being Dark Souls. No need to be so angry.

kek why is he so mad?

>>719690537
>wah wah no gf :(
Kill yourself
>Demon's Souls 2 is shit, it is a slower version of 6 and outdated. Only retards would still enjoy it.

>>719689742
beautiful

>>719690597
>(You) deprivation
I accept this victory
>Demon's Souls 2 is shit, it is a slower version of 6 and outdated. Only retards would still enjoy it.

>Dark souls 1 autists are jerking off again about their map because it got 4 shortcuts
grow up

>>719688635 (OP)
ds2, bloodborne, sekiro, elden ring
all of them are better

Something about this map feels off. I could swear Great Hollow isnt that far from Quelaags domain, and certainly doesnt branch out down, but instead on the completely opposite side.

I have no idea what New Londo is doing, so close to Undead Burg and Parish, in my mind its like squarely on the complete opposite side of Undead Burg from Fire Link Shrine.

I remember in my first playthrough, before I got to Andre, and had a repair kit (Now that I think about it, I think it was because I accidentally attacked Andre) I had to travel all the way back to Firelink Shrine to access the guy at the bottom of the Firelink elevator leading to New Londo, to upgrade and repair weapons. I know that New Londo can technically be accessed through the grass place, the fuck is that boring ass area called again? Darkroot?

But Im pretty sure that "shortcut" (fake) has to be opened from New Londo's side anyway.

Besides, that connection makes zero fucking sense, the more I think about it. Again, in my mind New Londo is on the complete opposite side of the map.

Every other area is boring, and most of the lategame areas are on the outskirts where it cant really be interconnected without either the game being more linear, or the interconnection being superfluous and for its own sake, so that people could go "WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH TOMB OF LE GIANTS CONNECTS TO DEMON RUINS???? WOWZA!"

>>719691031
I've always said that Dark Souls 1 actually isnt as non linear as DS2. And thats exactly and actually a good thing if you understand dark souls level design, it couldnt be as tightly designed otherwise.

But because retards and bots have zero critical capacity of their own. What they appeal to are certain broadly reinforced "characteristics" inbued with "inherent value" that nobody can actually demonstrate under any remote scrutiny, which is why they rely on the sheer reinforced used and application of it being something "good" to in a sort of weird confirmation bias way, reinforce particular games theyre already predisposed to.

Hence "non linear! can go out of order a bit!" is enough for a game and its world design to be "good".

A similar phenomenon occurs with "freedom" and Breath of the Wild.

I say all this as someone whos favourite game of all time is Dark Souls 1.

>>719689261
I do like Ds2 and 3 more gameplay wise but Ds1 is absolutely the king of world design. The other games never had a moment like the Firelink shrine elevator leading you back to safety after maybe hours spent in undead burg on your first playthrough..
Not being able to warp around until Anor Londo leads to moments where youre stuck in an unknown environment and have to push through. In the other games you always feel safe since you can just go back to the hub.

>>719688635 (OP)
naaah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfM67p_MSGQ

>>719691196
I don't think non-linearity is what makes the dark souls maps good or bad.
I think it's all about making the player feel both awe and wonder as they travel the world.
For me all dark souls and elden ring succeeded on that front even if their map systems are all different.

>>719690369
LOL NO YOU DONT IDORT

>>719688635 (OP)
mogged utterly sorry

It aged like milk. Out of all Fromsoft games it still holds up only against DS II cause it was crap and DS III since its mediocre. Sekiro, Elden Ring and Bloodborne absolutely mog DS I

Nothing in the in the industry compares to ds1s map

>>719692302
>New Braunfels
Is that from one of the Wolfenstein games?

>>719689625
This is also the reason ER is comparatively garbage. The interconnectedness is infinitely more interesting than open world slop.