Thread 719705008

Why can't more AAA games have reasonable file size?
This is not rocket science
Is this just laziness?

>>719705008 (OP)
people forgot compression once 2TB+ storage drives became a thing

Must have to include 8k textures for every little thing

>>719705008 (OP)
To force you to do one of two things:
1. Uninstall other games to make room, thus eliminating competition for your attention
2. Force you to buy bigger/sub drives to store your games, funding the hardware industry.
It's all for profit.

>>719705008 (OP)
It makes the game faster
Though laziness too
>>719705050
Not expensive too
100 USD for them

>>719705008 (OP)
Sekrio
>14gb
>well optimized, runs on a laptops
>clean visuals

Wo Long
>60 GB
>horribly unoptimised, runs like absolute shit
>worse visuals, messy rendering

Wukong, Wuchang and other Ching chong clones
>130 GB
>can't even run acceptably on a RTX 50 Series
>dogshit visuals, looks like grainy, blurry aids

But 100 gb on average is still not nothing
Despite the growing storage

>>719705282
>1. Uninstall other games to make room
But what if I don't think it's worth it to sacrifice 4 other games for their 1 game?
Fuck their game. I'm not buying it. Not playing it. I'm not putting that on my drive.

>>719705431
fromsoft has their own engine and i pray to jod that they never stop using it

>>719705008 (OP)
>Why can't more AAA games have reasonable file size?
There are two hallmarks of decadence,
>The inability to innovate
and
>The inability to do things efficiently

>>719705008 (OP)
Sekiro can only afford to be so small because the game has no content or replayability. AAA games have to have large file sizes because of the superior graphics, tonnes of content and replayability. It's not brain science surgery to figure that out.

>>719705008 (OP)
Texture resolution, lighting and fast load times all have the trade off of taking up more room on your hard drive. It's 2025, have you tried not being poor?

Anything bigger than 50-70GB at best is simply not worth playing.
You might cope, you might seethe, but this is the universal truth of the industry.

>>719705690
So do koie techmo but their PC releases are so hit and miss. mostly miss.

>>719705008 (OP)
that's an AA game

719705760
gr8 b8

>>719705770
>Texture resolution, lighting and fast load times all have the trade off of taking up more room on your hard drive
>2/3rd of the size is actually made up of poorly encoded videos

>>719705760
Sekiros world and asset pool is huge. what are you talking about?
take FF7R for example the world consists of small rooms and some of the lowest quality assets recycled all over the place. yet it's 100GB.
what's the 100GB spent on? pre-rendered mp4s and gigabytes of unnecessary, poorly acted NPC dialogue that literally makes the game worse.

>>719705008 (OP)
14GB for a game is still unreasonable
>>719705050
Me after TB of storage were created: finally I can store all games in it
Reality: Fits a few games at most

>>719705770
>Texture resolution
well optimized textures don't take up that much even when they're large.
>lighting
lighting is literally just coordinates and text in a shader. it takes up no space at all.
>fast load times
nothing to do with game file size.

>>719705008 (OP)
Yes, it's indeed not rocket science. The more content and assets you have, the bigger the filesize will be. Fromsoft famously recycles assets and rollslop doesn't even have lots of optional dialogue files to bloat the filesize. You can package files, reduce their quality etc. but all of these have drawbacks. The greatest sin is leaving unused assets from the developement, but that's less common.

>>719705991
How many bloatmax sloptitles you have installed at once? Sounds like a (You)problem.

>>719705008 (OP)
I remember when I bought Sekiro and installed, and I saw that the game was barely 14gb
I was like "no, no that can't be right"
Then I launched the game, cranked everything to ultra, 4k resolution, and the game never goes below 60fps, my GPU fans are completely quiet
Fromsoft has a habit of being retarded when it comes to PC ports, but in the case of Sekiro, they knocked it out of the park
Elden Ring had stutter problems on PC at launch, but it also impressed me how the game was only 44gb with its huge seamless open world with loads of assets
With the DLC it's now 67gb, but still impressive considering the amount of shit in the game

>>719706339
>huge seamless open world with loads of assets
it's literally empty

>>719706132
Nodev detected.

>>719705760
it took me like 30 hours to beat sekiro and theres like 15 unique levels.

>>719705770
I have a fast internet connection, I can install a 100gb game in under an hour, I also have a m.2 ssd and a top of the line rig overall
This is besides the point
I just can't help but feel pissed off whenever I see your run of the mill AAA slop being 100gb+, especially when the game is poorly optimized when you play it

>>719705008 (OP)
tl;dr answer:
Unreal 5 + zoom zoom pajeet devs merely dragging & dropping cinema quality assets in without any sort of handcrafting or optimization.

Sub-15 GB ain't even that hard to achieve, and many indie 3D titles you could fit on a DVD or two.

>>719706418
you're a no dev. you're confusing ram and Vram with game file size.

>>719706401
RDR2's world is equally as empty and it's 150gb
and i'm not shitting on RDR2 btw, i enjoyed that game

>>719706295
It can store old pcgames pre-ps4 and pre-switch era titles fine

sounds like a nongamer problem accepting defeat of having nogames with justified game sizes

>>719705431
> Wukong, Wuchang and other Ching chong clones
> 130gb

Wuchang is 15gb on ps5. I was shocked by how small it was, considering everything else about it screams unoptimised UE5.

>>719706401
what the fuck do you mean "empty"? as opossed to what?
it's significantly less empty than 99.9999% of open world games.
what are you wanting from it? ubisoft towers? some garbage mini-games, 500 worthless sidequest NPCs?, time wasting walky-talkie garbage?

>>719706827
here's what the faggot nigger wants

>>719706507
Now you're just replying to voices in your head. Schizo detected.

>>719706827
It's the usual Elden Ring derangement syndrome, pay no mind to that retarded faggot

>>719706620
So you're not even playing those big games. What makes you think you have the right to comment the situation you know nothong about?

>>719706827
>what are you wanting from it? Content?

Helldivers 2 was 70 GB on release a year and half ago, now it's taking 130 GB, how the fuck did they bloat the filesize to this point?

>>719707032
141gb to be precise

>>719706864
yeah gotta love those low quality bosses dumped carelessly into generic terrain that is not an acceptable or memerable battle arena.
the only thing that's memorable is watching the subfuntional AI glitch out and fail on the terrain as you break the game with cheap hit and run tactics on a horse or even just spam projectiles.

>>719705008 (OP)
Are you poor?

>>719705008 (OP)
It is 17GB on a PS5 for the PS4 version. Neat. PC masterrace wins again.

>>719705530
It's not about you, it's about their already present fanbase and stopping them from playing competitor games

>>719707032
Those voiceclips take space

>>719705008 (OP)
Fromsoft dropped the ball after sekiro
Both ac6 and eldenshit is around 60gb

>>719705008 (OP)
Devs don't compress dey cutscenes (duplicated in all formats)

>>719707189
But what if they instead give up on the new game and start playing the competitor's games instead because they don't consume all of their drives?

>>719705690
Eldenring is poorly optimised though, it has so many fps drop and shutter and after dlc update it become unplayable in mid tier pc

>>719706827
Its the same type of person as those complaining Sekiro is just press one button to win. They have no valid criticism of the games and just go with weird hyperbolas to make a point. If ER world was populated with NPCs at every corner they would be crying its bad cause there is too much unnecessary copy pasted stuff.

>>719707547
ER has that problem already though

>>719706945
>no u
concession accepted

I remember an old interview with a developer (I think the DD:DA devs) where they said based on player feedback that some people actually like it when the framerate tanks. To some players, it simply coincides with casting a big powerful ability that makes the screen shake and the FPS go down. Extrapolating off that, I worry if we will have gamers in the future who think that if a game doesn't have a 300gb+ install footprint, that they simply aren't getting their money's worth on the game.

I downloaded Talos Principle 2 yesterday
>100gb
>For a puzzle game
Thanks UE5

>>719705008 (OP)
>game has ps3 graphics, 8 hours content and one-note combat

>>719710786
Over 20 of those are for 15 minutes of poorly encoded Bink videos, including 1.2GB for the fucking title screen.
For comparison, that's about two gigs more as a complete version of Serious Sam Fusion (TFEHD,TSEHD,3 and the VR versions), Serious Sam 2 AND Talos Principle 1 Gold COMBINED; INCLUDING a buttload of mods.

>>719705008 (OP)
zoomers think the number means it has more content or something idk
$1 a gb and 1gb an hour