Thread 719709821

it's too big, it's too long, and it tires me out too quick
the joke is that's a dick joke and this game's script is near constant dick jokes

I prefer kazooie but tooie is still a good time

Everyone blames DK64 for killing collectathons but really that game sold a ton and was beloved at the time. It was Banjo-Tooie that killed the genre dead by being a mean-spirited schizophrenic game with like 5 different versions of every single collectible to do basic moves.

>kills Bottles
>has you lie to his wife and child about his fate
>it's supposed to be funny

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH I MUST MENTION HOW I HATE VIDEO GAMES WAAAAAH
SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER JUST KILL YOURSELF
NIGGER.NIGGER.NIGGER.NIGGER.NIGGER.

Kazooie is too fucking easy and I prefer Tooie instead

>>719710335
Only ragebait matters in this world.

>>719709821 (OP)
tooie is fantastic the first time you play it and an absolute chore to replay.
B-K on the other hand is flawlessly paced and an absolute pleasure to 100%

>>719710715
BK is nice, 100%'d last week for the first time
if you know the game already you can 100% it in a day

>>719709953
elaborate clearly and concisely about this "need collectibles to do basic moves" thing. Try to remain objective and free of emotion.

>>719710802
i can 100% kazooie in just a couple hours and i don't even have some wacky speedrun route, i just have the friggin game memorized

Eekum bokum

>>719710024
Come to think of it, did Banjo and Kazooie know they would be able to revive him? There wasn't anything to suggest Grunty's plan involved a machine that could reverse it. The machine wasn't even responsible for his death; Grunty literally bombed their house and he was simply caught in it. She killed him. There was no life force suction involved. He was just dead.

>>719709821 (OP)
You're too fat, too dumb, and your shit opinions on kino tire me quickly

>>719709821 (OP)
>>719710024
For the shitpost game that conker was, the fact they decided to not hold back on the adult humor made it leak too much into their late N64 games, both perfect dark and tooie were full of "child friendly" adult jokes that kazooie/DK had avoided doing too many of.

>>719709821 (OP)
>>719710024
>>719711235
Why do Zoomers act like mid 90s MADD Karens about Tooies tone?

guh huh

>>719711235
perfect dark was an M rated game and Id love to here any examples of child friendly adult jokes in that game. Theres like zero innuendo in that game from what I recall

>>719711323
I genuinley dont undersand that or that world too big thing. Back then exploring big 3d worlds was awesome because it was new. Obviously now you can nitpick it but theres a missing componenet to how wonderous these games were because they were cutting edge 3d at the time.

>>719709821 (OP)
I should replay this one time and see how my memory holds up. I played it over two days, one of the times I stayed home from school because of the flu. And I remember it being very fun, with a surprising amount and variety of content.

>>719711707
I like the big worlds and back tracking to open up new parts of worlds. It seems like kids these days find everything you cant just breeze by in one run or "speedrun" to be tedious.

>>719711097
Dead or alive he'll be in trouble with the missus. You got a have a guys back in that situation

>>719711097
i remember thinking this as a kid too. how many jinjos or whatever had to remain as zombies to make up for the life force that was used to revive bottles?

>>719711848
Yeah I think I was getting big dopamine hits from that because the powers are fun to use.

>>719710852
>>719711396
i want clarification on both of these

>>719712578
King Jinjo is pretty fat, he probably just has some zombified belly pooch

>>719712643
>wait, if bottles is alive now, where did the life force come from to bring him back?
>oh well, lets get to that kickball tournament
and then the moles win because jingaling's kicking leg is still zombie'd up and acting of it's own accord

>>719712821
which basic moves are these required for? the eggs are basically each their own move and you only NEED a specific egg a handful of times. you don't use up 5 grenade eggs to do a beak barge. And if you need one of these particular types of egg you stand in front of an egg nest and wait up to 5 seconds for it to cycle to the egg you need, you don't have to go looking for a specific one.

you failed the part where you were meant to elborate clearly because look at all this guesswork i had to do.

>>719712821
>game has very basic and forgiving ammunition system, and only a single "gun"
>"5 different versions of every single collectible to do basic moves"
my brother in christ

>>719712821
of all the things to shit on tooie for and you pick the one system from banjo-kazooie that was in dire need of some expansion and variety

>>719712821
Kazooie has eggs and feathers too I genuinely don't understand lol

>>719709821 (OP)
>Homosexual pirates that literally drink semen in a kid's game
Like what the fuck is wrong with brits

>>719713259
See >>719711323

>>719713259
>the joke is entirely figurative and driven by innuendo
>"literally"

>>719713232
and you were way more likely to run out of that single egg type in kazooie than any egg in tooie. egg nests are fucking everywhere and give you plenty

>>719709821 (OP)
I love Kazooie and Tooie.

>>719709953
Tooie was liked at the time too until you secondary retards came in

>>719714880
i love Kazooie (the bird)

>>719710406
Tooie is braindead easy too anon, the only thi ng that can give you even remotely a hard time are the first two FPS mazes and MAYBE Grunty's fight especially if you're playing the Xbox 360 version due to a fuckup with the aiming controls, everything else can be cleared in the first or second try.

>>719711097
They knew they're in a video game

>>719715773
That mini game where you have to blast the shit piles off the walls in grunty industries was a bitch

Never played it despite Kazooie being one of my favorite childhood game.
Would it be good if I play it nowadays ?

>>719709953
>>719709821 (OP)
These posts are lying.
t. beat both games for the first time this year on Xbox

>>719717139
Alright give me your review and if you convince me I'll start playing these games.

>>719717042
Not really. You might think it's okay, but it's mostly backtracking and worse level design than kazooie. levels felt empty and repetitive.

>>719709953
Were the collectibles even that bad in tooie?

Notes were toned down massivley, turning them into nests, and placing them in common areas where you'd never miss them.
Jinjo mechanics were changed that unless you were 100%ing the game it's easier to collect them casually instead of making zero progress unless you collect all of them in a level
Those pink bouncy creatures were always right next to mumbo or humba
there were tons of types of ammo, but they cycled
Other consumable collectibles like feathers and shit were barely ever used

The game's problem was level design, not collectibles

>>719717635
It sounds like the other anon was making the game harder than it needed to be.

>>719717635
>Other consumable collectibles like feathers and shit were barely ever used
I was legit pissed off to see how fucking nerfed the wonderwing was in Tooie, not only it worked on SOME enemies, most of the fight happen with you transformed or unable to even bring it up again so it felt completely pointless outside of avoiding fall damage in Cloud Cuckooland

>>719711396
Yeah it was M so it'd be fine to have that kind of adult humor in it but they wanted the goldeneye audience so didn't make it mature toned.
I'm also pretty sure there was jokes about anal probing and an implication something giving sexual relief in a very round-about way. It's been a while since I played it.

>>719717801
Yeah, it's nice to see a rare game actually maintain continuity and let your character retain abilities from the prequel, but it rarely ever works out well.

I got mad when the beak buster (ground pound move) was nearly useless because they required you to use the bill drill for FUCKING EVERYTHING

In Banjo Kazooie beak buster would smash grates and stones and shit, but in tooie you had to constantly watch that drilling animation because they had to force you to use new moves

>>719717139
How did you not find twoie painfully slow and redundant?
Like DK64 its the perfect kids game but as an adult with limited time?

>>719709821 (OP)
it's millennial slop
I don't care

>>719718458
It is, but you would thoroughly enjoy Banjo Kazooie.

>>719718327
Your dopamine fried ADHD brain not being able to handle sustained attention might be the problem and not the actual game or your adulthood. Main problem as an adult is just having the executive function to say "these are the 5 or so games I'm actively working to beat at the moment" and sticking to it.

Tooie is a drop in the bucket compared to an RPG, it's not actually long in any capacity

>>719718458
Zoomers will sit there and press A through Persona 5 for 200 hours but the minute you ask them to explore and keep track of a big level they lose their minds

>>719718327
Because it wasn't actually that slow and the levels weren't as big as they were memed out to be.

>>719709821 (OP)
Absolutely loved it as a kid.
Replayed it recently; I had a fun time but kinda ran out of steam by the time I got to Grunty Industries. Still might finish it again some day.

>>719711323
It's the millennials. The soilennials loved Kazooie's whimsical tone but hate all things gritty or could be perceived as "edgy". Meanwhile the zoomers welcome it because they think the first one looks too "childish" so it's basically older secondaries just getting into Tooie.

>>719723297
Nigga Milennials were the ones around who gave the game it's initial praise

>>719723297
retarded headcanon
neck yourself zoomzoom