Thread 719713080

>It-it gets good 15 hours in, I swear!
>It doesn't actually get good 15 hours in
God this game sucks.

please spare a (You) for shitposters in these trying times

>>719713080 (OP)
You don't get it, it IS supposed to suck.

>>719713141
I swear to god I'm not shitposting this game just fucking sucks.

>>719713189
Why does it suck

>>719713189
It sounds like a (You) problem then

>>719713258
It's not fun to explore in and there's way too much of it for it to be boring
Geo rewards don't matter
Nail and mask upgrades don't feel like upgrades but punishments for not hunting them down
Charms are boring
Movement is boring
I don't care about its lore
The boss fights are OK at best

imagine being a shazamfag and having literally nothing better to do than shitpost on a taiwanese rhizome cultivation forum in the vain hope it will cause a random game about bugs to flop.

>>719713607
Who is this semen demon

>>719713710
tsundere boss from goty 2024

>>719713080 (OP)
It's good from the beginning. You were filtered.
>>719713479
Wrong on every count.

>>719713710
Goumang from Nine Sols, in summary >>719713806

>everywhere looks the same
>make a sequel where everywhere STILL looks the same

>>719713080 (OP)
I thought it was good within the first hour and it kept getting better afterwards. Sucks to suck for you.

>>719713080 (OP)

Yeah, Hollow Knight is one of the most overhyped games this side of Ocarina of Time (Ocarina of Time is NOT good, it looks like shit and shut the fuck up).

>>719713607
>>719713806
>>719714037
>t. blue eyed 6'4" White gigachad alpha males

>>719714068

That wouldn't be such a problem if the world was smaller. There's just many things working together to ruin the game:
>map is too large
>traversing the map is too slow
>the game makes automap not work until you find the cartographer bug in each area, causing more useless travel time
>there is nothing of value to find in the game since there's too few upgrades and they have too little power

Boss battles are bad too because the bosses don't have a visible life meter. Terrible design choice. When you die to a boss you have no way of telling whether you almost won, or if it was hopeless to begin with cause you're expected to search some other area first.

>>719713080 (OP)
>It-it gets good 15 hours in, I swear!
I liked it straight away, you can feel a game is least interesting by how your character controls, Hollow Knight movement is really snappy and tight.

Also I don't understand why people get filtered and get lost, the amount of time where you are without a map is like 20 minutes, when you defeat the False Knight you have enough for the compass and quill that make you able to see where you are and update your maps respectively.

>>719713080 (OP)
posted it again award

Metroidvania is such an utterly dogshit genre in general>here's a massive map you have to constantly backtrack through
>the areas you're backtracking through are nothing but trash mobs and mind-numbingly simple platforming
>this ensures you're spending 80% of your playtime engaging in non-content
It's the 2D equivalent of open world slop with "LE HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF CONTENT", most of which is just you holding down W as you follow map markers. Just a complete waste of your time.

How does it feel to be born without taste, OP?

>>719713080 (OP)
It's atmospheric. Someone who was raised by a tablet wouldn't understand

>>719713189
Its really boring and tedious compared to games like sotn and super metroid

>>719714868
>here's a massive map you have to constantly backtrack through
Most metroidvanias take 14ish hours to beat at a somewhat slow pace.

>>719714974
No, Thief has atmosphere. Tablets weren't relevant until I was in my 20s.

>>719713479
Don't play it, then. Why do you play 15 hours of a game you don't enjoy? Do you have no agency over yourself and must do whatever other anons do?

>>719714974
I'm 35 and dont like it but loved games like sotn and super metroid. I didnt like the 3ds metroid 2 remake or metroid dread though. I found both of them pretty boring.

>>719715121
Because I like Metroidvanias and kept convincing myself it was going to get better.

>>719714960
I wouldn't know.

i don't like metroidvanias
i hate how many metroidvanias seem to be fun platformers, but they're metroidvanias so i know i won't enjoy them

>>719713080 (OP)
Every gamer knows the feeling of being told some metroidvania is the best game ever, and feeling that crushing disappointment after playing it

>>719713080 (OP)
They made the mistake of having a big map but forgot to make combat engaging and traversal fun.

>>719713080 (OP)
If you don’t enjoy it out of the gate, then that’s on (you)

>>719715409
Which metroidvanias do you like?

>>719715121
>don't play a game until finish
YOU JUST GOT FILTERED / IT GETS BETTER LATER
>play a game until finish
If you didn't like the game then why did you finish it? ;^)

>>719715121
>This game sucks.
>>You didn't play it!
>Here's why i think the game sucks
>>Then don't play it!

>>719713080 (OP)
Ye the combat is pretty bad. Shame the music, graphics, setting, plot, story, and puzzles dont really make up for it.

if you can't enjoy the ambience you are a 3-5.

>>719717053
Who are you quoting? If you don't like a game, don't play it for 15 hours. No need to play mental gymnastics just to please anonymous web users.

>>719715121
Shut up retard

Hollow Knight isn’t better than even the most mid Metroid game

>>719717104
>>719717134
>>It-it gets good 15 hours in, I swear!
>>It doesn't actually get good 15 hours in

>>719716986
Most of them.

HK was the best 15$ I've spent on a game, maybe tied by Yakuza 4 back in the day. Such a gorgeous package.

>my critique of the game?
>I don't like it

>>719717196
Stop making up scenarios in your head just to impress me.

>>719713080 (OP)
But anon think about all the gorillion hours of content that consists of backtracking through the whole map! Doesn't that sound promising?!

>>719717104
Why would that make up for everything else? It's not even good ambiance.

>>719713080 (OP)
Id say its dated but the rabid fanboys pounced last time I did...

>>719713258
It's a chore. Involves a lot of boring, tedious walking through the same areas, while killing or risking avoiding the same enemies (avoiding/skipping is often more dangerous in the long run but much faster than fighting). Getting from point A to point B in explored areas is not fun. It's an unpleasant chore. ESPECIALLY Deepnest.

>>719713258
Not OP; I didn't like how death means you gotta go get your dropped shit instead of just respawning at a checkpoint

>>719713080 (OP)
>'is that (insert popular game)?'
>'actually its shit'
rope all contrarians

>>719717547
I think you'll get the most attention

>>719717547
In Dark Souls its fun as its a gamble, in Hollow Knight its a confusing chore where getting lost is a bigger threat than death.

>>719717618
Many popular things are shit.

>>719714868
Most of them are easily beatable in a day even on a first playthrough. Hollow knight is just terrible game that wouldn't be good even if it was shorter.

>>719717216
Shouldn't be a problem to name a few examples then?

>>719713080 (OP)
>"I'm really good at videogames, it's just that this acclaimed video game is bad!"
>look inside
>player is trash and blames the game for his failings

every
single
time
it's actually fucking hilarious how many people on /v/ of all places are absolute shit at games

>>719718056
Super Metroid, Circle of the Moon, Momodora, Guacamelee, Popful Mail if you count that.

>>719713080 (OP)
>Reddit Knight
This board is full of redditors passing by to say faggot without fear of getting canceled, so if course they are going to seethe when you point out the truth

>>719718182
I never had trouble playing the game though.

i played it years ago back when there was no hype for the sequal and it was just seen as a good game, not some sort of masterpiece. i quit like, 5 hours in cause it was boring

You can't say that. This is the zoomer equivalent of SOTN or Super Metroid, except not as good and held with more praise for some nonsensical reason.

>>719717752
good luck on your pong game grandpa

>>719717104
So, just looking at a screenshot of the game while listening to the OST is just as good as playing the game itself because you can use your imagination.

>>719718249
kek, of course.

>>719718182
Nobody criticizes Hollow Knight for being difficult though
It might be too easy actually

>>719718284
And then you woke up.

>>719719498
Reddit reply.

>>719713080 (OP)
Yeah it got good 0,0001 hours in.

>>719713189
prove it and post your achievements or savefile

>>719717329
>t. 3-5

>>719719292
Nobody says that "it gets good 15 hours in" either.

>>719713080 (OP)
The ingame world is remarkably well-realized and immersive. Doesn't feel like a shitty obstacle course of randomly connected levels but like someone put in serious thought to make it seem like a small underground civilization. That was enough for me.

>>719719106
interaction is an important part of the medium and can help trigger imagination in various ways but i wouldn't expect you to understand.

The video that destroyed HKfags and their lies, they can't refute anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUrUceYSgmQ

>>719713080 (OP)
Play something else.

>>719713080 (OP)
It gets good pretty much immediately.
But the big quality spike is when you get the wall jump. Which is like sub 3 hours into the game.

>>719713080 (OP)
It gets good 0 hours in.

>>719719657
What achievements? What savefile? I didn't play it on Steam, I uninstalled the game.

>>719719985
https://reznormichael.github.io/hollow-knight-completion-check/

>>719718182
Reddit Knight is a casual as fuck game played mostly by reddit mods and tumblr arthoes. At least show your Bunny Extinction clear of Rabi Ribi if you want to flex. Thinking anyone got filtered by HK's difficulty is hilarious peak poseur shit.

>>719720053
How the fuck is that supposed to help with a nonexistent save file?

>>719719775
>needing your imagination to be triggered by interactive stimulus to work
So are you a 4 or a fully-fledged 5?

>>719718182
People who are good at games and enjoy them just play them instead of posting on here.

>>719719624
What nation uses commas as decimals?

>>719713080 (OP)
It doesn't work for some people, and it's fine. I always say if you don't feel any interest to continue past the Mantis Lords fight or past the City of Tears entrance, don't bother continuing because you'll never gel with it.

>>719719568
kek, you would know how people in reddit communicate. Way to bust yourself as a tourist.

>>719720059
>that game is for redditors and art hoes
>play the animu shit lolicon game instead
lmao

>>719720132
>nonexistent save file
it's not in the game's folder, the site has the location

>>719720263
Euros

>>719720263
>hurrr

>>719713189
Wow, a wholly original opinion. That you for sharing.

>>719720263
the entire world except english speaking countries, chinks and jeets

>>719719720
>>719720284

>>719720438
How do you interpret that post as "it gets good 15 hours in"? All I said was if you don't feel interest past a certain point, don't wast your time. How does that confuse you?

>>719720362
Yes, I know that. I don't keep files around from games I'm not going to come back to. I deleted them. So how the fuck is this supposed to help? I beat flukemarm and said I had enough of this dogshit game.

>>719720132
>backpedalling this hard
k
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k

>>719720593
>>719720593
Well. You do have an insatiable appetite for cocks and semen and you pursue men who have no interest in you, you never give up, right? So why should they?

>>719720661
>i went out of my way to remove the save files in appdata
sure thing buddy
you didn't play the game

I just don't like bosses in this game, they're life sponges with a very limited moveset that you can quickly learn and then you just fight the urge to fall asleep. It's just not fun to avoid the same 5 attacks over and over again. Also my biggest mistake was killing Nightmare Grimm without all the nail upgrades, fuck my life.
Platforming is 10/10 but clearly not the focus.
t. completed 4/5 pantheons and reached 112% (iirc) in under 30 hours

>>719720814
>he doesn't do regular maintenance and pruning

i just hope they didn't include speedrun or permadeath achievements again
it's a minor thing and i never bother with them but i really despise when indie devs put them into their games

>>719720826
>homo sex metaphor out of nowhere
classic /v/.

>>719720836
Clutter is bad.

OP couldn't provide any proof he actually played the game
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>>719713080 (OP)
Hollow Knight turns to shit the moment you unlock double jump, and that holds true for most metroidvanias. The only one that actually makes platforming harder after double jump is The Lost Crown because it ramps up the platforming difficulty.

>>719720846
>It's just not fun to avoid the same 5 attacks over and over again
Sounds like bosses on 99% of every video game ever made. I think you just don't like video games anon

>>719720360
>complains about lolicon
>on 4chan
Thanks for literally proving my point.

>>719721012
Most games don't pad boss HP to a stupid degree.

How are shitspoters gonna deal with the silksong sale numbers?

>>719721018
how does that prove your point?

>>719713080 (OP)
i tried 3 times. it's so god damn boring.

What could've done this

>>719721073
they'll wait until threads die down and in 9 months pretend /v/ hated the game

>>719713080 (OP)
>it gets good 15 hours in

Good evening gentlemen, my name is John Mc/v/ or more commonly known as "/v/"
I represent the unanimous anonymous opinions of me, /v/
I have decreed that Hollow Knight is a good game

>>719713607
Based Goumer

Yep, it's like a 5/10 at best. Nowhere even near the level of the genre greats.

The map straight up feels like it was randomly generated and they just strew a hundred gates all over the map at random. There is no sense of progression, no rhyme or reason or coherence to where you're supposed to go. You find a powerup, then you just do a big fucking loop around the entire map and check every gate, maybe you marked a couple that seemed important, maybe you remembered the vague area where a few were, but that's all you can do. And most of the time those gates have nothing of relevance behind them, just a bit of essence, a merchant that sells a couple items, a lore tidbit, a shortcut with no cutback, a rotten egg, a bit of geo, a grubworm (read: a bit of geo), etc.

Exploration would work fine if the game didn't have hundreds of arbitrary gates thrown up everywhere that have to be approached in a specific order using a sequence of hidden upgrades and massive amounts of forced backtracking.

The game is extremely samey for how massive it is, rooms are just generic, unmemorable and just all blend together, even much worse than in Super Metroid, which is especially an issue as HK has a much larger map with zero form of player guidance. Additionally, there is a lot more "snaking" in HK's map design so when you need to head in a certain general direction, it's near impossible to tell which path leads there without a map, because paths constantly weave and snake around in every which direction. Seems like a minor nitpick, but really makes navigation a total fucking pain in the ass and basically a complete waste of time before you get the region map.

It's just a game with very little thought or understanding put into its world layout from amateur gamedevs that don't understand game design principles that have been around for decades, and just hamfisted in mechanics from Souls and other games without any thought to how they actually contribute to the whole.

>>719721115
Ask your friends over on reddit to help you figure that out.

>>719721357
Didn't read
Sum up your dogshit opinion in 5 words or less

>>719721012
I was just too spoiled by Elden Ring. The game tuned each boss' HP to a perfect level (probably learned from DS3) so that each fight doesn't feel repetitive.
Now that I think about it, not even IWBTG is this repetitive, bosses were way more limited in movesets but fights were shorter and separated by clearly defined phases. Yeah I know, it's a joke game, but it still has better boss design.

>>719713080 (OP)
Yeah, I get it. I have absolutely zero interest i GTA6, Never played GTA5 either, I think it's gay as fuck, goddamn niggergame.
So when I see retards jizzing and smearing it all over themselves at some GTA6 news, I get a bit pissed as well. So I get it, not getting a game and being annoyed that other people like it.

That said, I would never ever spend time broadcasting this to others like some turboautist. Just ignore if it is not your type of game, stick to your multiplayer games where you do the same thing ad infinitum because your mind devils tells you that you are beating real people and are therefore worth something.
Let the rest of us enjoy our bug game in peace, you insufferable hambeast.

>>719721357
Admitting that you are retarded and are unable to make mental notes or maps, and posing it as criticism? Man, you're some special kind of retard aren't you? Maybe you would enjoy super mario bros, you only have to go in one direction there, cannot get lost.

>>719721654
Not being interested in GTA6 because you don't care about GTA games isn't the same thing as trying out Hollow Knight because you like Metroidvanias and finding out it's shit.

>>719721440
>can't explain an honest question about his reply
>g-go back to r*ddit
I accept your concession

>>719721186
/v/.... Real /v/ does hate that shit game. But right now there is a paid marketing shills campaign going on to push it. And of course a bunch of you redditors are here to do it for free.

>>719721768
>they're geniuses for shitting out a giant, samey, copy-pasted labyrinth and throwing up hundreds of gates all over the place actually

>>719721774
If you say you like metroidvanias and though HK is shit, you're either lying that you like metroidvanias, or you're lying that you have played HK.
Either way, you're suffering from terminal contrarianism.

No one has mentioned a better metroidvania

>>719721990
You are a huge faggot.

>>719721863
There's nothing honest about being a newfag reddit tourist. I'm not here to have a debate with you. Niggers and jews deserve to hang from trees and trans lives don't matter.

>>719721967
If you think HK's map is difficult to navigate, you're suffering from mental deficiencies. Sorry to be the one to break it to you. You should take care to not get lost when on hikes, you would surely die before you found your way back.

>>719721990
It's a shit game, Ravi. Do you get paid per post or per hour? How do they know if you're actually shilling the game like you're being paid to? Do you get paid in rupees?

>>719721967
You can't criticize anything about the game, alright? It's perfect in everything.

>>719722106
Super Metroid
Metroid Zero
Nine Sols

>>719722206
>everyone who points wout my retardation is shill
Kek, enjoy the silksong month, try not to have a heart attack!

>>719722115
Being called faggot by someone who is seething that a popular game is popular means nothing. Try to beat your mind demons before you neck yourself.

>>719721990
See >>719719776

>>719713080 (OP)
I thought I would like the game, but I really don't. Ori and the Blind Forest is a much better game with real beauty.

>>719722129
>makes an exceedingly retarded reply that makes absolute no sense
>realizes this and refuses to explain
>wah wah I'm not here to debate you

>>719722251
>shit
>shit
>much better game overall but worse as metroidvania

>>719721946
that's a good impression, exactly like that

>>719722206
Damn, I got called a pajeet. First time for everything. Do you honestly think the devs that decided to sell a game they spent 7 years making for 20 jewcoins would hire goddamn retarded pajeets and pajeetas to defend their game on 4chins of all places?
Damn, you're a special kind of retard.

>>719721768
>>719722149
I beat the game the first time in <15 hours blind with no guide, while most people take 40+. The game isn't difficult at all, it's just insanely dull, tedious, and repetitive, with some of the worst map design ever seen in a game. No, you are not some boy genius for enjoying endless retreading and backtracking through extremely boring, samey content, lmao.

If you read about how they developed it, they just constantly shat out ideas and forced them into the game, with no outside playtesting, no care about how they all fit together, and completely unable to edit or realize when ideas don't pan out. And it shows in the final result, a giant clusterfuck lacking intentionality just all slapped together because they couldn't let a single thing go to waste and had a very much quantity over quality mindset.

>>719722295
Wow big boy, is this where you got your opinions from? What a nice opinion you have, straight from jewtube, did not even have to chew.

>>719722257
Once the game releases, the shilling campaign will die down and the marketing money will dry up. I can tell you're from here from the simple fact you didn't know that.
Once the shilling stops the posts will turn into coom posting with hornet and daily hate threads.
Figured you marketing shills would research where you're shilling before hand.

>>719719776
nerrel describes exactly how i quit the first time
>get to mantis lords too early
>get stomped for a bit
>beat them
>dropped into deep nest
>can't leave
>go through dark tunnel
>spend 1 hour doing absolutely nothing
>quit
>never come back to it for years
a truly wretched game.

>>719722515
You can't deny that guy has played the game, though.
I also played it for 6 six hours and thought the game was shit, are you gonna deny I didn't?

>>719713080 (OP)
Anon most players, casual ones that also watch streams and young kids, of this game think this game is super awesome simply because it is cheaper and run on potatoes.

Team Cherry won't improve in the sequel. Silksong is going to be twice as big and twice as shit.

>>719722506
Never said it was difficult, I said you lack the mental faculties to navigate it's world. What you did is do the bare minimum to complete the game. You fought hornet, got the claws, made it to the resting grounds, got map markers, went to map markers (while seething that you could not do so in a straight line at times) then fought hollow knight. Then you came on here and pissed your pants that you had a bad time. Well, sure, you would if you played it like a super mario game with an attack button.

You're a seething retard who has been seething in damn near every HK thread, considering I last saw you weeks ago and you're still at it. The game will be good, it will get rave reviews, and you will be here pissing your pants about it. Fucking sad dude.

>>719713607
>You blow off her legs -- her best feature
What a cruel fate.

>>719722149
>>719721768
>>719722848
I don't know how I can make you understand this. But it literally doesn't matter even if you (somehow) managed to memorize every single one of the 100+ gates along with their lock type and exact location in the massively bloated and labyrinthine map, you still don't know which of these 100+ gates are part of the critical path, and which are just the 95% of filler garbage like a bit of essence, a merchant that sells a couple items, a lore tidbit, a shortcut with no cutback, a rotten egg, a bit of geo, or a grubworm (read: a bit of geo), etc.

So the end result is STILL EXACTLY THE SAME: the most efficient way to approach it is to just do a giant fucking massive loop every single time you get a powerup to test out every new path, which are all on opposite ends of the massively bloated world.

Guys, I think its possible different people like different things.

>>719722739
No, you're a contrarian. You want it to suck so you can feel validated.

>>719722506
>I beat the game the first time in <15 hours blind with no guide
I genuinely do not understand how you throw a bitchfit over the game being too massive with loads of "forced backtracking" and then immediately follow up that complaint with the assertion that you beat it on the average time it takes to beat most short games. Where exactly is this complaint stemming from? Are you upset that your sub 15 hour long game wasn't 3 hours long?

>>719722650
>get to mantis lords too early
>get stomped for a bit
Fucking how.

>>719713607
I want to have SEX with this cat
If you guys know what I mean
Also, op's mom sucks dicks under a bridge to pay for his aids treatment

>>719714068
>everywhere looks the same
Every single named area is easily identifiable from a single screenshot.

>>719722848
>you lack the mental faculties to navigate its world
>which is why you completed the game 3x faster than the average player, with a similar exploration percentage (64%), despite playing blind
>and that's just players that actually beat it, most drop before the end
I don't think you thought this through very well smoothbrain-kun

>>719713080 (OP)
The gameplay is too basic for a veteran gamer such as myself.

>>719723102
yeah you got the purple area, the blue area, the yellow area, the gray area. really great variety there.

>>719722650
Same lmao

You can easily identify every single area based on the environment.

>>719713080 (OP)
>>719713189
According to the Official Hollow Knight Fanbase Registry, you are violating paragraph 42 of section 1.a., which clearly states, "You may not, under any circumstances, criticize Hollow Knight with anything less than a peer-reviewed, 20,000 word essay, validated by the American Historical Society for use of proper arguments, syntax structure, and a careful avoidance of logical fallacy."; and: section 2.c. of the section, "Acceptable Opinions", which clearly states as well, "You may not dislike Hollow Knight, for it is a perfect game."

Your punishment is death. Please sit still and await retrieval.

>>719713607
Anyone else read it in her voice?

>>719722985
You are a zoomer shitstain who is obsessed with
>MUH DOLLARS PER HOUR
and game length as a number on paper, with no care how much of that is actually unique or interesting or well-paced content. You will never understand.

Also 15 hours is not short for a game by any means. Outside of RPGs, NES games were like 15-30m, SNES games were like 30-90 mins, PSX games were like 1-5 hours, and PS2 games were like 2-8 hours, PS3 games were like 3-10 hours.

i refuse to even pirate this redditsphere game

>>719723398
Based makefunner of Shitter Knight Fans

>>719719776
>complains that bosses don't give anything when the boss fight itself is the attraction and thing you're supposed to enjoy.
>complains about getting dropped into Deepnest, which is supposed to be a tense and memorable experience
>complains that a few of the areas are samey when it has more areas than most games in the genre
I agree with some of his complaints, but he's really missing the point on some things. Especially the bosses. HK is way more combat focused than many metroidvania. If that wasn't already obvious, the optional combat gauntlet area that's just there for fun that got added later on should give it away. And I'm saying this as someone that has multiple games in the genre I like more than HK.

>>719722650
i did the same and it was the highlight of the game for me
i even missed the map dude at the start of the zone

>>719723398
Anon, you're not a victim

>>719720438
Where in that post does it says "it gets good 15 hours in"?

>>719723457
>Also 15 hours is not short for a game by any means
Yes it is. You should really go back.

>>719723797
You are an underage faggot raised on ubislop. kys.

Agreed. Boring, quiet, simple, dull. Standout bosses sometimes I guess. Hated the game. Hollow Knight is perhaps the most overrated game of all time.

>>719722309
>Ori and the Blind Forest is a much better game with real beauty.
Maybe if you don't like video games.

>>719723457
I'm struggling to think of NES or SNES games that are within those ranges.

>>719723457
>Also 15 hours is not short for a game by any means. Outside of RPGs, NES games were like 15-30m, SNES games were like 30-90 mins, PSX games were like 1-5 hours, and PS2 games were like 2-8 hours, PS3 games were like 3-10 hours.
You are fucking delusional. For the sake of argument, what exactly is your cutoff playtime for a game to be considered "short"?

>>719720661
>erasing save files in an era where storage is nearly unlimited
I bet your house is perfectly neat, too, you freak.

>>719723956
Based drip vegeta chad BTFO this roastable flop of gaming

>>719723975
I think you can count the number of NES and SNES games you've beat on one hand, buddy.

>>719723848
Nice job, you're almost fitting in with all those buzzwords. Now, go back, you're not fooling anyone jeet.

>>719713080 (OP)
It never got fun. I never finished it.

>>719723457
unc is mad

>>719723956
In deed my fellow anon. Such a tross of gaming designs...

furtranny game

>>719724045
Unlike you I actually grew up with them. Most games of those eras were 2+ hours. Not every game is Mario.

>>719713080 (OP)
I thought it was good but the first few areas are definitely a slog. Doesn't pick up until you get mantis claw.

>>719724008
Depends on the genre. 15 hours is really only short for a big open-world RPG.

For a platformer, action game, adventure game, racing game, run and gun, beat em up, FPS, TPS, horror, RTS, etc. it's extremely long, especially if that's replay length.

>>719723956
लॉλ it really is overrated

>Game is $20
>Stops other $90 goy slop for a few days
>OY VEY
>Activate the goy golems to shit on it
hmmMmm

Me with the /v/ besties out to flop Hollow Knight Silksong The Most Hated Game of 2025

>>719724182
Why are you larping zoomer? SMB3, SMW, and Yoshi's Island are some of the longest non-RPG games on the system.

>>719723956
>>719724262
It so is really overated

>>719724280
I was literally talking about SMB1.

So does HK only have subjective criticism?

>>719724346
Which is still very long compared to its contemporaries from that year.

Again, I ask: why are you larping zoomer?

So many of the decisions in this game seem to stem from hatred of the player
>tons of locked paths are just a waste of time that lead to extremely minor payoff or, in quite a few cases, literally absolutely nothing
>can't even view location on map without wasting a charm slot
>exploring a new area is basically pointless before you find the mapmaker
>making you lose all your currency if you die even once and requiring you to backtrack massively to recover it (even doubly worse if you missed a single bench) in a game already chock-full of backtracking
>difficult bossfights that encourage mastery and memorization but with bench respawns that are several minutes away
>very easy to get stuck in areas before you even have the intended upgrades necessary to progress, leading to massive frustration and backtracking
>slow drip feed of upgrades, very little sense of progression or power gain
Sisyphus Simulator: The Videogame. Shame because the bossfights are fun but everything else is terrible.

>>719724363
Its hated roastable flop of 2025 and you cope

>>719724494
>HK
>flop
>2025
just how retarded are you zoomie?

>>719724470
This is why we gonna flopped Silksong /v/ gang gonna TORtanic another game boizz!!!!

>>719713080 (OP)
I fell for this meme as well. I finished the game and never got good.

I fell for this meme with Dragon's Dogma too. Fuck /v/ and its shit taste.

>popular sequel is announced
>haters be like:

What causes this shit where people feel the need to suddenly start making threads about how much they hate Hollow Knight and how it actually sucks and is overrated? It doesn't feel organic in the slightest. Is it just shitposting or is this actually some kind of coordinated effort to lower people's opinion of Hollow Knight leading up to the release of Silk Song?

>>719724470
The game doesn't value your time at all.

>>719724494
>Flop
Leave the poor word alone you raped it of all meaning.

>>719720438
>Mantis Lords
>City of Tears
>15 hours in
For your sake, I hope you're just shitposting and it didn't actually take that long.
I don't want to share a board with people this fucking awful.

>>719724583
U mad bro we gonna flopped this shitty Silksongs?

>>719724656
to be fair, you can do ton of side things before city of tears

>>719724470
It really doesnt respect the players time

>>719724583
If you get to shill the game relentlessly 24/7, then it is only fair the people who don't care for it get to hate on it.

>>719724182
>most NES games were 2+ hours long
zoomers say the darnedest things

>>719724583
First day on /v/? Any upcoming game that people look forward to becomes a shitpost target. Neo TWEWY of all games went through it and it was just a sequel to a cult classic that people wanted for years. It'll get drowned out when the game actually releases and people are too busy playing to give shitposters attention

>>719724470
Hella mid this game

>>719724470
>bench respawns that are several minutes away
You can really tell just how amateur the game is by this. It's clear they wanted to copy the souls formula but everyone and their mothers agree the backtracking was the most retarded part of it.

oh no, silksong has its own schizo now

>>719713080 (OP)
It doesn't even take 15 hours to beat...

>>719724785
This, we gonna flop this game as a revenge

>>719724785
>shill the game 24/7 relentlessly
the release date was revealed 2 weeks in advance, nobody was shilling silksong before then because nobody had any idea when it was gonna come out.

>>719724768
You can, but the lack of the mantis claw means it still wouldn't take you that long even if you scoured the map for everything you can do.
At that point, you've only got pogo jumping to sequence break, and even if a new player stumbled on the mawleck and repeatedly got the shit kicked out of them until they beat it, even 10 hours is inexcusable much less 15.

>>719724857
Hollow knight has a few schizos its just the same ones. My guess is that they got so ass hurt one day it scared them

>>719724804
Every Megaman game is just behind that until you have them memorized.

>>719713080 (OP)
It got good 15 seconds in

>>719724849
In Demon's Souls it was never an issue because the bulk of difficulty came from the stages themselves, not the bosses. The bosses were mostly puzzle/knowledge based that matched their environments and rewarded smart play and observation.

It became bullshit when the games moved towards hugely elaborate bossfights where you had to learn and memorize all their attacks and timings, and the games were borderline glorified bossrushes, yet they still had the long fucking runback each time.

>>719724785
The most revolting of twitter newfags don't have a patch on you, the cancerous coward that can never hold a sincere opinion out of sheer terror that some faggot like you might call them a shill for it.

It sucks so badly that all the good 2d platformer gameplay is found in metroidvanias nowadays. The metroidvania part of these games is always the worst part.

>>719724583
It's just complete burnout towards the state of the industry leading to ridiculous amounts of vitriol. I can empathize, I don't really expect Silksong to be good and will be waiting quite a while to judge if it's worth my time. Doesn't excuse blatant rewriting of history, though. HK is great.

>>719725124
>>719724849
There really is no good things to liked about Silksong now, I really thing /v/ gonna flopped it...?

Why play this when Metroid exists?

>>719725296
Why play Metroid when Castlevania exists?

>>719713080 (OP)
I mean, if you only think a metroidvania gets good when you get the double jump, maybe you shouldn't be playing metroidvanias.

>>719724632
If it's a shit game, it's a flop.

>>719723102
>The blue area the other blue area, and of course, the blue area

>>719725016
I'm talking about game length on replay when you know what you're doing.

In Hollow Knight it's different because the game is just bloated with excessive backtracking and trial and error testing out every dead end, as opposed to actually learning the game mechanics and bosses (which is fine).

But even on replay, assuming you are just playing normally and not speedtrooning and beelining to the end, the game is like 8-10 hours long still, which is extremely long for replay length for an action game.

>>719720053
lmao some autist actually this?

>>719725126
Talking about video games is one thing. Regurgitating manufactured hype is not it. The game is not out. You have nothing to talk about beyond advertising it. And yet the catalog is flooded with threads. Some people don't take kindly to that shit and just because you're not getting paid for it doesn't change the fact that you're doing basic ass marketing, not any kind of discussion. It's only reasonable to call you out for your faggotry.

>>719713080 (OP)
I see Nine Sols compared to Hollow Knight all the time, but is it really like this piece of shit beside being an indie metroidvania?

>>719725435
This. Its the most hated flop game

>>719725534
AND BOOM GOES THE DINAMITE!!!!

>>719725534
You based eloquently BTFO that channer lol!!!

>>719713080 (OP)
>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP LIKING HOLLOW KNIGHT! TAKE JOURNALISTS SERIOUSLY!!!!
I shan't.

>>719713080 (OP)
Hollow Knight is a good game but the devs fail to understand what makes a good metroidvania.

>>719725365
Most Metroidvanias are good before you get a double jump.

>>719724008
Hollow Knight is like 5x as long as Super Metroid (and much more tedious with much more backtracking), and Super Metroid is already one of the longer games on the SNES.

You are a fucking retard.

The game would be a lot better without the Dark Souls influences.

>>719725534
Silksong confirmed hated roastable flop

>>719717618
Popularity isn't a sign of quality, zoomie. It's only a sign that it appeals to the least common denominator.

>>719725365
I like metroidvanias and I think this isn't the greatest statement. They typically do get much better when you get a movement option that makes the game more open and makes platforming more interesting. The intro is usually the worst part but it makes sense because it gives you a sense of progression

>>719717618
EA Sports confirmed goty for the past 10 years.

>>719725616
>>719725686
Trans lives don't matter, by the way. Enjoy you third term under Trump.

>>719717618
>>719725847
Hollow Flop confirmed worser then EA sport

>>719720053
>drop at what feels like 40%
>71% in
>exactly one good area
grim

I played it for a few hours and was bored the entire time. Then the stupid backtracking and runbacks annoyed me and I quit.

I played Rabi-Ribi instead. Much better game.

>>719725847
Where you were when Silksong was gonna be worst then EA sport game?

>>719724470
>>tons of locked paths are just a waste of time that lead to extremely minor payoff or, in quite a few cases, literally absolutely nothing
I can't think of a single dead end with nothing, this just sounds like "give me the best items in the game right now" whine.
>>can't even view location on map without wasting a charm slot
If the area's been explored you don't need that charm at all, just look at the room you're in and match the shape to the map.
>>exploring a new area is basically pointless before you find the mapmaker
What? You save all the rooms you're in and catch up with the quill.
>>making you lose all your currency if you die even once and requiring you to backtrack massively to recover it
Just use an egg then.
>>difficult bossfights that encourage mastery and memorization but with bench respawns that are several minutes away
If it takes you more than two minutes at most to get to a boss you're doing something very wrong, and I'm struggling to think of one that's even one full minute away.
>>very easy to get stuck in areas before you even have the intended upgrades necessary to progress
The only example I can think of is the path that leads to Brooding Mawlek and the game makes it very clear that you're not going through that path in the intended way if you do it early.
>>slow drip feed of upgrades, very little sense of progression or power gain
Loads of bosses give you a new upgrade or some other significant benefit. Again, I'm struggling to think of the ones that don't.

>>719724583
Universal praise isn't organic either but here we are: people shitting on individuals stating why they dislike the game

>>719720846
kek I missed the blacksmith too and wound up doing that Lost Kin garbage with the base nail

The game's presentation is nice at first but quickly becomes grating for how hollow it is. Metroid g Castlevania are fun to explore with the little details in the art, whereas Hollow Knight quickly feels like you're looking at pages from a textbook in minimalist design.

>OP got BTFO'd and couldnt actually show any proof that he played it in the first 30 posts
>somehow this thread is still going

Oh you didn't beat steel mode? You didn't beat it.

>>719720053
whats my missing 10%? I ignored DLC boss rush. Is that it?

>>719721472
GAME BAD PROGRESS FEEL BAD

>>719725959
>pedo has no taste
more news at 11

>>719720921
>>719720661
Based neat and tidy hater gang, unlike shitty messy shill gang

>>719725971
It is going to make less money for it's entire lifetime than EA sports does every single month. Confirmed trash and flop.

>>719726015
the game is actually 112%

>>719725972
>Again, I'm struggling
Yeah, you're struggling to understand that not everyone likes your 2d flash game slop. You can stop the relentless shilling that's taking over the catalogue retard

>>719726075
kek I was backtracking to infinity cause i couldn't see that shitty shortcut and I still somehow missed a boss

>>719725534
>Regurgitating manufactured hype is not it
stop trying to justify yourself. You're here throwing a tantrum because people dared contradict someone shitting on a game, and anything posted may as well be white noise.
But don't worry, I'm not going to blame you for one anon trying to make you look like a samefag. You're a cowardly slime but I won't assume you're that stupid.

>>719725789
In this case, though, that movement option is the mantis claws. I was also getting bored of it until I got that upgrade. They give you plenty more to explore and I feel they maintain interest long enough to get the game's double jump to fully unlock exploration. The crystal dash is there too I guess, though its use case is more niche.

>>719725972
embarrassing fucking post

>>719713080 (OP)
Agreed finished two days ago. Played it shortly after release and didn't get the hype and thought I'd try again 8 years later and still think its a 7/10
Got the less than 20 hour, greater than 100% completion achievement and wasn't even going for it so its not like I missed the good content

bosses have constant hit boxes, even when repositioning and not attacking. A boss can just randomly leap without telegraphing at mach 3 to the other side of the map, damaging you in the air
this is apparently okay because their animation doesn't show them swinging a weapon
traversal is absolute dogshit
less than a handful of actual shortcuts through the entire map, all other shortcuts are just unlocking alternate paths through the same room
movement speed is slow as hell for how large the map is
unlocks that improve traversal are spaced so far apart and take forever to unlock
10x more backtracking than any other metroidvania because the sheer number of collectibles but the collectibles are 80% useless
Horrible fast travel system, only a single important NPC (The Seer) is located anywhere near a stag station

I think one of the worst offenders is how ass the rooms adjacent and a degree away from the stag stations are. They treat them like normal platforming rooms with tons of enemies when they should be simple and get more complex and involved the further you move away from a stag station. These are rooms you are going to be going through a dozen times per playthrough and after your third time through they just become exhausting.

>>719726171
OK but I got the mantis claws. Was still bored.
I got the shitty shinespark knockoff. Was still bored.
I got the double jump. Was still bored.

>>719725972
They beating yo ass in the qrts

>>719725972
Imagine shilling this flop so hard kekkkkk

>>719726260
Based. Its a hated flop that /v/ all hates

>>719713080 (OP)
Rent free

>>719725972
Actually fucking embaressing post omg

>>719724470
I dont remember all these issues you listed but I quit halfway long time ago because I was just bored. The environment and lore is not that varied or interesting enough.

>>719725972
Why hollow knight shills the most pathetic 4chan users?

>>719725542
Nine Sols is even more of a combat game where the main draw is the cool bosses. It's HK but you have a Sekiro parry. For a metroidvania it's fairly linear and a bit lacking in the exploration department. It also has a heavier emphasis on story than most.

>>719726462
>>719726248
This game really doesnt respect your time

>>719726248
you shouldn't play video games with guides. It rotted your brain. You didn't beat the game

>>719726430
>embaressing post
Yes, yours was. Don't fret, you'll get the the hang of it sooner or later.

>>719725972
Lol imagine defending a Chanhateds flop

>>719725959
Rabi Ribi is also shit as a metroidvania. The only good part is the bosses.

>>719725972
Get ratiod idiot!

>>719726572
you are playing a game and posting on /v/. YOU don't respect your time

>>719726135
>make a post
>get responses to the post
>"AAAAAAAAA STOP THIS RELENTLESS SHILLING REEEEEEEE YOU'RE TAKING OVER THE CATALOGUE STOP IT WE NEED THE ROOM FOR 50 MORE CHINKSLOP THREADS"

>>719726175
>>719726274
>>719726352
>>719726430
Why are you pretending to talk like niggers?

>>719726595
I didn't play with a guide

>>719724553
>boughted 4chan pass to shitpost on /v/

nigger

>>719726663
Rabi ribi is just as bad and hated as hollow knight but is for pedos

>>719724583
Do you think its legitimately not over rated? Its a fun 8/10 game but the 11/10 posters dont seem insane to you?

>>719726761
L + ratio + chicken butt

>>719725972
>If the area's been explored you don't need that charm at all, just look at the room you're in and match the shape to the map.
why are you a shit-eater?
>If it takes you more than two minutes at most to get to a boss you're doing something very wrong, and I'm struggling to think of one that's even one full minute away.
two minutes if you have the bench unlocked and know the exact speed running route to the boss, maybe. Still like 5x longer than Super Metroid despite much more difficult bosses.
>The only example I can think of is the path that leads to Brooding Mawlek
Or... gee, I don't know.... DEEPNEST???
>Loads of bosses give you a new upgrade or some other significant benefit. Again, I'm struggling to think of the ones that don't.
Why are you lying? Almost none of them do.

>>719725972
I mean sometimes you get lore or a bestiary page, but I wouldn't call that nothing.

>>719724583
Its a 8/10 pile of shit that is the most hated game of 4chan history. Now stop shilling it

reading this thread, the only thing I can discern is that all of you bitching are unironically filtered.Game really isn't that hard and you shouldn't be this ass mad. Its ok. Play some puzzle or something

>>719726932
This channer c l u e d t f i n

>>719726870
I think I had fun with the game and I'm excited to play Silk Song. I don't pay attention to people calling it an 11/10 masterpiece as much as I don't pay attention to the people calling it an overrated 0/10 game in retaliation because they're equally retarded.
>>719726981
Get a grip and stop obsessing over a game you hate.

>>719726981
>the most hated game of 4chan history
Dam it must be good. You sold it to me

>>719727130
>>719727091
actually embarrassing posts

enjoy your hated roastable flop sloppas

I'm convinced that anyone who isn't able to appreciate that HK id a masterpiece is retarded

>>719727262
I will. Thank anon. You enjoy being mad I guess

>>719727334
Careful, your friends over on reddit might not appreciate you using that ableist slur.

>>719713080 (OP)
It is indeed a very boring game. Extremely bland and one note art style, mediocre level design, mediocre platforming, and outright bad combat. Pretty much any other Metroidvania with Soulslike elements is better.

>>719727456
But reddit hates it anon... are you from there perhaps?

>>719726553
Never played Sekiro. Is the parry as forced as in Samus Returns?

>>719727334
I want it to be fun and memorable but its not clicking for me. is it like dragons dogma where the dlc elevates the whole game to like a 9/10?

>>719727560
name 5

>>719727705
What do you mean by "forced"?

>>719727647
Thats hilarious.

>>719727647
>even reddit hates it
it's a 9gag game keeek

>>719727859
Salt & Sanctuary, Salt & Sacrifice, Ender Lillies, Ender Magnolia, Momodora Reverie under the Moonlight

>>719727647
redditors are such faggots
worst thing is knowing those people lurk 4chan for screencaps so they can post it on their 4chan subs and pretend greentext
embarrassing

>>719727779
I love HK but honestly if it doesn't click with you in the first 2 hours I would abandon it because the whole game is just more of that. What I really liked about it is the sense of progression, how you unlock new abilities that let you reach areas you couldn't before, like double jump or sliding on walls. The combat is simple but fun, it works, not too easy but not too hard either, and the art style and music are top tier

>>719727705
The parry is basically your primary method of attacking. Boss does a combo chain, you parry each hit, you then use a move that got charged up by parrying and maybe get some limp noodle slaps in with your sword.

>>719725972
>If it takes you more than two minutes at most to get to a boss you're doing something very wrong, and I'm struggling to think of one that's even one full minute away.
The crystal boss, maybe soul master?

>>719727647
>even reddit has better taste than 4chan
no surprise there.

>>719713189
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

I beateded Broken Vessel today I can now jump gooder very nice gaem

>>719713080 (OP)
>posting (You) got filtered
Lmao.

>>719715121
Because every fag and their grandmother says it's the best game ever? So retards like me got duped into believing it.

>>719713080 (OP)
suicide shitter

>>719726553
Very heavy emphasis on story

>>719722106
Guacamelee 2
Tevi
Rabi ribi
Portrait of ruin

>>719726932
>two minutes if you have the bench unlocked and know the exact speed running route to the boss, maybe
Name the boss, because I no idea what you could be referring to. It takes a little while to get to Hornet 2 I suppose, but not MINUTES.
>Or... gee, I don't know.... DEEPNEST???
...you can just climb out, bruh.
>Why are you lying? Almost none of them do.
OK, let's do this.
>False Knight
vengeful spirit
>Hornet 1
moth cloak
>Mantis Lords
access to deepnest, access to mantis treasury area with one of the best charms in the game, all mantis are non-hostile
>Soul Master
dive
>Crystal Guardian
This one you get basically nothing, but considering it's barely a boss I think that's fair.
>Dung Defender
Isma's Tear
>Broken Vessel
Monarch wings
>Brooding Mawlek
Another bad one, I think you just get a mask shard?
>Flukemarm
Get a decent charm.
>Nosk
pale ore
>Collector
location of all grubs
>Hive Knight
Get a really good charm
>Traitor Lord
mask shard + half of Kingsoul
>Hornet 2
King's brand
>Grimm
charm slot
>Nightmare Grimm
really good charm
>Watcher Knight, Uumuu, HK/Radiance
progression bosses, no major rewards
>dream bosses
essence, which gives loads of rewards
>arena bosses
loads of money

So yes, the majority of bosses give you something substantial, there are a small handful of optional ones that have less significant but still interesting rewards, and a couple that offer nothing but progression. Which is typical for just about every video game that has loads of bosses.

>>719728668
>Guacamelee 2
How much better is it than 1? I wasn't a huge fan

>>719728668
>Tevi
lol

The best metroidvania is Outland

>>719728782
nta, but it has much better platforming/puzzles, combat is mostly the same only they changed some of the more annoying enemies and removed the OP instant win devil trigger mode, story/humour is better overall although still kind of 'reddit'.

>>719722848
>played it like a super mario game with an attack button
Anon... that's what metroidvanias are...

>>719728761
>don't even name half the bosses
>even of the few you name, most of the rewards are nothingburgers
lmao

problem with HK and Elden Ring design is that both encourage you to bum rush your build items right out the gate on repeat plays. turns out plot-gating content is good. Dark Souls 1 was the last good video game made.

>>719729127
>Elden Ring out of the blue
Yup its shazam sissys

>>719729127
Having to wait until 75% of the way through the game to get the weapon you want is shit.

>>719722506
>rushed the entire game
>only played for 1 (one) ending
No wonder you didn't enjoy it.

>>719729041
>>don't even name half the bosses
Which ones did I miss?
Oh, I see I missed the Crystal Guardian 2, he gives you a mask shard iirc. Any others?
>>most of the rewards are nothingburgers
Which rewards are "nothingburgers" exactly? Or better yet, how about you tell me about a game that does it better? Because if you insist on saying that upgrades which unlock massive areas, increases to health, better mobility, better damage, etc. are "nothingburgers" I have to conclude you're trolling.

>>719727859
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown
Shinobi: Art of Vengeance
Salt and Sanctuary
Blasphemous
Death's Gambit

Easy.

>>719729223
>to get the weapon you want
the weapon you want is not balanced for early game play. the feature you're looking for is called new game plus
>>719729215
>le tranny boogeyman
i want nu-chan to end

>>719729335
Super Metroid does upgrades and progressions about 10,000x better, zoomermutt

>>719728213
That does sound like something I'd hate.

>>719729127
>>719729223
Godmaster mode is right there you faggots
you can just go and fight all the bosses with all your shit unlocked whenever you want
how the fuck is "if you replay the game you have to actually replay the game" supposed to be a criticism anyone takes seriously?

>>719729440
>the weapon you want is not balanced for early game play
Yeah rpg shit is poorly designed, I'm aware.

>>719713080 (OP)
It's good in the first 5-10 minutes? what you see is what you get unless you're some zoomer that hates metroidvanias or something

>>719729561
"how"? easy - by not being a cultist

the game design sucks, you have to be "trained" to like it by backlog maintaining groomer-coomer "indie game players"

you can see this mentality just dripping from the reddit post in the OP. "people who never played indie games" is just people who were never buck broken into eating dog food off the floor.

>>719729635
Is this genuine footage of a gaming journalist?

>>719729495
>don't get anything good from beating Ridley
shit game 0/10

>>719729127
Dark Souls 1 is an overrated turd. It's only good from the beginning until the gargoyles bell, the rest is all shit. I know I'm not biased because I played all From's games before

>>719729665
>"this game sucks because you can't replay the game with all you cool shit and no downtime"
>"yes you can just go into the gamemode specifically for that"
>"um actually no you're a cultist and this game sucks because...... other reasons you disgusting fucking reddit groomer!"

>>719713080 (OP)
It actually gets worse the longer it goes on because it gets more and more padded

>>719729704
Genuine footage of a huge metroidvania fan trying the genre for the first time.

>>719730095
>because you can't replay the game with all you cool shit
no, that's not the criticism. replaying the game, and experiencing progression again, is good.

what's not good is a game that encourages you to bum rush build items. that is evidence of poor level design. you have to be trained and groomed to like that kind of level design because it is anti-reward, like so many rpg systems, of which HK is a derivative.

and adding a "god mode" where you have everything is the developer admitting it: "yes we laid a trap for you, you've fallen into it, here's a little treat for being a good boy"

i mean, yeah, all games are designed that way. but when it's so on the nose as this, we call that bad game design and perhaps a little bit of "letting the cat out of the bag"

>>719730897
>people liking what I don't like are... le GROOMED
peak reddit

>>719728198
Thing is I liked the first 2 hours but it felt too repetitive and padded by hour 15(?). I think ill replay and push through the final hours if I hear silksong is a tremendous improvement

>>719730095
>>719731249
>frog poster calls anon reddit
we've arrived at total singularity, none of you newfags have any idea what you're even trying to say.

>>719731338
>newfag
That's rich coming from an election reddit tourist.

I loved the game but hated the boss rush area and just didn’t do it.
Boss rushes suck. Unless it’s Kirby.

>>719728213
that's not how to play sekiro

>>719731503
>doesn't like indieslop
>must be an election tourist
you see what i mean? you just dont even know what you're trying to insult me with

>>719713189
I also tried playing it a while back and found it incredibly slow and dull. I don't believe that it ever gets good.

My my, the shazamfags are quite uppity today.

I'd like everyone to remember this is a $15 indie game that has caused people to have their jimmies rustled about it in this thread.

>>719733427
If it was free with this reputation I'd still bitch about it for being a bad game.

I don't know how anyone can fight grey prince and not realize that the combat is unmitigated dogshit
>20+ Zote faces on screen at any given time ruining visual clarity
>pogo him and stun him, causing him to bounce in the air and rape your health bar
>spawns exploding balloon faces directly in your sword swing making them instantly explode
>jaunts forward with half a frame of warning cleaving you in two

>>719713080 (OP)
Exact opposite.
It starts great but slowly overstays its welcome.

>>719733628
>needs others validation
Are you female (male)?

>>719733701
Thats the point, jackass. It's a joke fight

>>719733714
It starts awful.

>>719730897
>what's not good is a game that encourages you to bum rush build items
What the fuck items do you need to rush for? It's not like it's a game where you need to get a specific weapon that will allow your build to do damage. Aside from a couple meme summon builds charms are mostly optional and don't change core mechanics. This isn't like a Souls game where you need a specific sword to work with your stat distribution.
>and adding a "god mode" where you have everything is the developer admitting it: "yes we laid a trap for you, you've fallen into it, here's a little treat for being a good boy"
you're an actual schizo, holy shit.
imagine being so fucking assravaged by HK that you consider a boss rush mode as an insult from the devs

>>719715179
I'm 36 and like HK immediately. I also played it on console. The only castlevania I've ever played was the one on 360.

>>719713189
Who has 15 hours to give to a game this boring? There are a 1000 games like this that respect your time more. Maybe Silksong will improve the combat and make it more fun because Hollow Knight was just so dull.

An action game shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to show why it's appealing.

>Tried it
>Played it
>The rumors were true
It's babies first metroidvania
Hell I would dare to say the it's kinda like a Megaman X game but without all the fun
I blame zoomers bandwagoning and their awful taste

>>719736249
5 minutes into HK and I was not only intrigued by the lore of the setting, I was rewarded for exploration with a secret charm that I found by pogoing across spikes.

>>719737880
Did it do anything cool? No. Not a reward.

>>719739167
you're right the charm should have played a tiktok and given me a pic of a waifu

>>719713080 (OP)
Bet you couldn't get past the pogo mushrooms lol.

>>719722650
>get to mantis lords too early
There's no such thing as too early they are designed to be beaten with no upgrades.
>dropped into deep nest
>can't leave
This is just a straight up lie, the map guy even tells you the place is tough and you should probably come back later. If you forced your way in after that it's on you. Glad you got filtered, sorry your still seething 7 years later.

>>719740165
>you don't like game
>YOU MUST BE LE BAD AT IT!
No

>>719740471
But you are bad thoughbeit. That might not be the reason you quit but you are still bad.

>>719740524
Nope.

>>719717334
>Id say its dated but the rabid fanboys pounced last time I did...
because it isn't, you have no argument. You're throwing out a buzzword trying to poke a hole in something you don't enjoy for the sake of it.

>>719740641
Yeah I'm afraid it's true, don't worry I'm sure silksong will have invincibility mods for journalists eventually.

>>719719776
didn't this faggot make one of those "here's why TLJ is actually amazing" video that was embarrassing bullshit?

I feel the same as OP and if such benign critiques of a game are considered trolling then you are a delusional baby.
>i cant imagine why someone doesn't like this" t- guy who can't think very hard and cant rotate an apple in his head.
Real shit though, people being excited faggots aside, im still going to buy silksong just in case its actually better designed or feels better to play.

I just don't like how it feels, hitting, jumping, air movement. Its not bad, it just falls short of what I like in a 2d game.
Everything else about the game i think is cool as fuck, the art, music and animations are amazing. I understand exactly why people like it, and Im jealous that people could get a game they love so much and then get even more to play. Like congrats, seriously. I liked shovel knight a bit more which feels like it had a similar love about it, even though i never finished it or played any DLC (dont care much for the new mouse game).
I think i am just too conditioned by level based 2D games and don't find boss run backs and back tracking in 2D environments all that fun. It gets a bit better when you get the added movement, but the start of the game feels like a slog.

If the game is isn't a big step up because its been glazed so hard i will be a bit sad.

>>719741323
Can you name a game that has more precise jumping and movement controls?

>>719713080 (OP)
I'm glad we as a board are finally accepting this is overrated shit. Hopefully Silksong is less of a bore with tighter areas and pacing but even then idk if I'd ever go back and finish the first game.

>>719729127
>ER malding in a HK thread
RENT
FUCKING
FREE

>>719737880
The setting at the start (and as far as I played 3-4 hours in) is quite LITERALLY "Dark Souls but bugs". I'm not joking, they're trying to ape DS's premise and setting so hard it's kind of embarrassing. I'm sure it's more differentiated later but it was an instant turn-off how unoriginal it felt.

>>719717171
So don't play it then, retard.

>>719741449
idk it might be the micro precision that i dont like about it.
I like super metroid more than I like meatboy, i'll put it that way.

Ive given like 10 tries of hollowknight and always stopped before i could give myself the chance to get frustrated and claim it sucks.
I always said "maybe i just feel tired today' "maybe i should finish dread first" 'maybe i will get some beers' 'maybe beers with friends and we take turns"
I gave it every excuse I could, and I just can't make it stick.

>>719713080 (OP)
>playing a 7 year old game only when the hype surrounding it reaches its zenith
Sheep

>>719716837

Not really because all other Metroidvanias are good and Hollow Knight alone is bad.

Link to your reddit account so I can donwvote all your posts you bastard

>HK is good because... Moving left and right feels nice i guess...
Lmao, Lemeza controls like a slippery bitch and that game is way more fun.

>>719713080 (OP)
It gets great at Greenpath. It is not hard to see why this game has the reputation it does. You have no taste. Nigger

>>719742676
Nope. Was boring in Greenpath.

>>719727859
Blasphemous 5 times

>>719740714
Silksong has faster healing and ledge grabs, so it's already surpassed its dogshit predecessor.

>>719742925
So you admit you're bad, glad we could find common ground.

Game is overrated as fuck and there are far better alternatives nowadays. Still gonna go for the true ending though
If it wasn't for the bench warp mod, I'd give the game a 2/10, the backtracking in this game is fucking horrendous due to the shitty stag station locations
It also has one of the most braindead healing system in the genre. I am face tanking everything but I can still always just heal the damn pain away due to how much soul meter you gain when attacking

>>719740698
Fanboy HK cultist spotted.

>>719713080 (OP)
When I pirated the game I got bored really quickly but later on I bought it on switch during a sale and put 40 hours into it in a week
Its nice that the bosses are rather difficult that you actually need to retry them multiple times and improve your skill

>>719742987
Then Silksong is bad for capitulating to my demands, hope you weren't planning on playing it. Also, NTA.

>>719713080 (OP)
GIT GUD

>>719743494
>GIT GUD
The game is fucking easy though

>>719730062
How was Kingsfield 4?

>>719713189
>>719713080 (OP)

>>719743494
That is a humorous animated memetic picture, mind if I download it for personal use friend?

>>719733250
Just in this thread really. Proving that it's all powered by some dipshit internet clique somewhere. Sharty perhaps

>>719713080 (OP)
I bought it on sale when it was like $8 and sort of feel the same way. 10 hours and it doesn't even feel as fun as the first mission in Megaman X
Can't complain too much since I barely paid anything for it

>>719717104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDUT6eNAp-c

>>719747051
People like or don't like different things, mystery solved.

>>719714391
>the game makes automap not work until you find the cartographer bug in each area
now this is a valid complaint. Thematically it works but it does make exploration intimidating

>Boss battles are bad too because the bosses don't have a visible life meter... When you die to a boss you have no way of telling whether you almost won, or if it was hopeless to begin with
the bosses have readable patterns that you can quickly learn, and even a total shitter should be able to develop a paradigm to fight them after a couple tries
in other words, git gud

notice how silksong getting a release date has caused a concentrated effort to flood the catalog with threads like this. key things to look out for are "flash game," "when does it get good," "i played for an hour and it's boring," and "does anyone not get the hype." these phrases will appear in every single one of these threads. just remember that they're axe wound trannies. sage, move on, and have fun on the 4th, anons

>>719747807
Or people are playing the game for the first time due to all the hubbub over Silksong and have come to the conclusion that it just isn't that great? Not everything is a conspiracy, anon.

>>719713189
>game is boring from minute one to op
>op plays it for 15 more hours anyway