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Anonymous No.719719597 >>719721792 >>719724176 >>719724603 >>719725502 >>719730156 >>719731103 >>719735228 >>719736247 >>719737878 >>719744307 >>719747642 >>719751021
Dragon Quest
Never played any of these games before (am not Japanese) but I have played my fair share of mainstream JRPGs. Is 8 on the 3DS a good jumping point? It looks pretty charming with the britbong voices.
Anonymous No.719719652 >>719719760 >>719730295 >>719731103 >>719731385 >>719734843 >>719738910
Play the ps2 version. 3ds has downgraded midi music.
Anonymous No.719719760 >>719720027 >>719720216 >>719720495 >>719720538 >>719730295
>>719719652
Weird, why'd they do that for?
Anonymous No.719720027 >>719720272 >>719733264
>>719719760
Because it's a handheld and not as powerful as a PS2 believe it or not...
Anonymous No.719720216
>>719719760
Symphonic music costs more to use since they'd have to pay royalties to the orchestra that performed it. Armor Project/SE didn't think the 3DS versions of DQ7 and 8 would sell well enough in the west to warrant using the orchestral music, so they downgraded the music.
Anonymous No.719720272 >>719721383
>>719720027
It's not as powerful sure but I played MGS3 on it just fine.
Anonymous No.719720495 >>719721526 >>719721823 >>719730295 >>719731368 >>719735036 >>719747441
>>719719760
dragon quest composer is famousley a piece of shit who does dumb shit like that because he believes that midi soudntracks = more sells of the orchestral cds.
Anonymous No.719720538 >>719721276 >>719728305
>>719719760
The graphics are downgraded as well and the extra content is needless filler.
The PS2 version is the real version for all intents and purposes.
The 3DS version exists if you want to spice up your replay a bit.
Kotonohas' Husbando No.719720686
I played through the PS2 version and half of the 3ds version. It was my first dragon quest. YES. IT Is a good starting point. If you like anime you'll love it because the game feels like an anime. Story arcs and everything. It has so much charm in it. I'd prefer you play the PS2 version, but if you must, just play the 3DS version. I put over 100 hours into it on PS2.
Anonymous No.719721276 >>719721406 >>719721918 >>719728024 >>719751154
>>719720538
Alright, the music situation sucks but I hope I'm not missing out on any cool QoL that's in the 3DS version. I'll go and rent a copy of the PS2 version at Blockbuster then, thanks fellas.

Heard XI is the other popular one so I might check that out too depending on how I like this one.
Anonymous No.719721383 >>719721675
>>719720272

At 15 FPS or less. The fight against The End is pretty much impossible.
Anonymous No.719721406 >>719721675 >>719730564
>>719721276
You're missing out on 2 more characters and enemies visible in the overworld and dungeons on 3DS. But it also has a soulless menu compared to the PS2. So either/or in my opinion.
Anonymous No.719721526
>>719720495
>dragon quest composer is famousley a piece of shit
was
Anonymous No.719721675
>>719721406
Ooh fuck, you mean the 3DS version doesn't have random encounters? I gotta say I'm not the biggest fan of that mechanic when it comes to JRPGs, I'm having second thoughts now between the two versions.

>>719721383
I usually sneak up on him to hold him up and beat his ass every time I fight him so I didn't really have any issues with that. Getting headshots against enemies was a bit tricky because of the low resolution though.
Anonymous No.719721792 >>719722197
>>719719597 (OP)
If your 3DS is hacked like any smart 3DS owner would have done by now in 2025, then yes because you can get it decensored and with the orchestral soundtrack. Otherwise, emulate the PS2 version.
Anonymous No.719721823 >>719729504 >>719730295 >>719731368 >>719731368
>>719720495
>he believes that midi soudntracks = more sells of the orchestral cds.
That doesn't make any sense considering he was completely fine with the western version of DQ8 having orchestral music in 2004 while Japan still had to suffer with the synthesized versions, as well as DQ10 and DQ11S getting orchestra music. He has never had any problem with orchestral music in games. It always had to do with the financial relations between the performing orchestral (usually Tokyo Metropolitan) and SE. Just because he's the composer doesn't mean he can waive any money the orchestra asks for their work.
Anonymous No.719721918 >>719722957 >>719724603 >>719726494
>>719721276
XI is overrated. Consider VII 3DS or Builders.

All the main games are very similar mechanically so space them out regardless.
Anonymous No.719722197 >>719731592
>>719721792
Fuckin-A that makes things a lot more simple, didn't even think that would be a thing. 3DS it is then, cheers anons.
Anonymous No.719722957 >>719723450
>>719721918
Nah 7 is for longtime fans.
Anonymous No.719723450
>>719722957
It certainly requires a commitment level someone new to the series probably wouldn't be willing to offer right out the gate.
Anonymous No.719724176 >>719731410
>>719719597 (OP)
3 HD remastered edition
8 for ps2/3ds
11 definitive edition
Anonymous No.719724603 >>719724949 >>719731410
>>719721918
>Builders
>>719719597 (OP) Seconding this if you get bored of the main series, both games are fantastic. Play them in order.
8 is good but I love DQ4 5 and 6 more, check them out later.
Anonymous No.719724949 >>719725782
>>719724603
I still need to finish 6. I think I ended up getting a little bored of it when the dream world thing didn't really end up doing anything cool with the real world. But now that I've had time to just accept that it's another just fine DQ game, I can probably keep going. Also I wish Ashlynn wasn't such a shitter because she's cute.
Anonymous No.719725502
>>719719597 (OP)
Yes, DQ VIII is a great starting point. As is DQ III, V Or XI.
Patch the orchestra soundtrack back and go for 3DS.
Sure, DQVIII is very beautiful for a PS2 game, but it's still a PS2 game. Graphics shouldn't be the main factor here.
Anonymous No.719725782 >>719726042
>>719724949
She's a mage so she's doomed to be a shitter for half the game, but iirc she gets some of the best spells at the end.
For me it's the extensive party chat that carries the trilogy, I don't think 7 or 8 had nearly as much of that. Sometimes you get a new line after talking to a random npc or going into a building.
Anonymous No.719726042
>>719725782
7 and 8's party chats were definitely fewer and farther between, but I think it was just by nature of being much longer games than 4, 5, or 6. You end up being in places and doing things for longer than the much smaller vignettes present in the series prior, so it seems like less.
Anonymous No.719726494 >>719734550
>>719721918
I wouldn't wish DQ VII on my enemies, and I love DQ games. It should be the last one anyone plays.
Anonymous No.719727837
8 is a great starting point. My personal favorite is IV, but 8 is a great starting point
Anonymous No.719728024
>>719721276
>I'll go and rent a copy of the PS2 version at Blockbuster then, thanks fellas.
what in the name of fuck. Great bait lol. It takes 5 minutes do download iso and the emulator
Anonymous No.719728121 >>719728651
dragon quest is hornykino
Anonymous No.719728305 >>719740765 >>719743245
>>719720538
3DS has visible enemies which for me trumps everything bad about it.
Anonymous No.719728651 >>719728764
>>719728121
It used to be anyway. Sick of "global standards" ruining everything cool and fun.
Anonymous No.719728764 >>719729067
>>719728651
the jews took this from you
Anonymous No.719729067
>>719728764
Manya my beloved
Anonymous No.719729504
>>719721823
>That doesn't make any sense considering he was completely fine with the western version of DQ8 having orchestral music in 2004 while Japan still had to suffer with the synthesized versions, as well as DQ10 and DQ11S getting orchestra music.
If I remember correctly DQ8 received a big push to bring DQ to the west (it kinda did, it's by far the most famous DQ here) so they went the extra mile to have the symphonic orchestra music.

DQ in japan is like sacred and sells more than FF so they didn't need to do that there.
Anonymous No.719730156 >>719730478
>>719719597 (OP)
>Is 8 on the 3DS a good jumping point? It looks pretty charming with the britbong voices.
The series sucks shit, play Tales or Xenoblade instead.
Anonymous No.719730295
>>719721823
>>719720495
>>719719760
>>719719652
It's because DQ8 in Japan was a "return to form" after 7, while in the West, it was the "start" (wasn't even numbered in Europe).
DQ8 on 3DS uses midi because they never planned to localize it in the first place.
Anonymous No.719730478
>>719730156
Downvoted
Anonymous No.719730564
>>719721406
I started playing DQ8 on 3DS some days ago. I am actually surprised how soulless the UI is. I was thinking it would be like the typical bag UI but with the QoL of simple sorting/transfer with the stylus. But it's just as bad as the PS2 version minus the bag UI and item icons, wtf man.
Anonymous No.719731103 >>719744369 >>719747665
>>719719652
>>719719597 (OP)
Ignore everyone that says don't play 8 on 3DS cause visuals, they're absolutely retarded. It's a bit of a visual downgrade but it's not bad, and nothing out of question for a 3DS game. The most important thing about 8 3DS is that it has a bunch of a new content and QoL. It has new playable characters that should've been playable from the start, new dungeons, and a new ending, and it's QoL completely invalidates the original. Hell removing the timer on the alchemy pot alone makes it the superior version. In the original any item you made via alchemy would need to be cooked in your alchemy pot for fucking hours.
Anonymous No.719731265 >>719731405 >>719731483
DQ9 Sentinels of the Starry Skies is the best Dragon Quest, if you have a 3DS I recommend that one because it is perfect. DQ Monsters Joker 1 is also very good.
Anonymous No.719731368
>>719721823
>>719720495
>>719721823
That has nothing to do with why they used MIDI. It's simply that the orchestral tracks were funded and made by the composer with the orchestra he founded, not SE owned. SE didn't want to pay him for the rights to use the more expensive orchestral version. This has nothing do with the composer "being a piece of shit" and I fucking hate that this lie keeps being spread. SE is just fucking cheap. BTW the midi soundtrack is the original japanese release ost, it only had an orchestral ost in the western releases.
Anonymous No.719731385
>>719719652
also taking out random encounters makes dungeons insanely easy. Rushing to the boss and hoping you dont get fucked with a random encounter of 8 zombies was kino
Anonymous No.719731405 >>719751392
>>719731265
Is there still some way to get the dlc content?
Anonymous No.719731410 >>719731610
>>719724176
>11 definitive edition
Worse graphics and even more filler content.
>>719724603
Builders is great, why would anyone dislike them?
Anonymous No.719731483 >>719736491
>>719731265
I liked joker 2 more. also the remakes of dqm 1 and 2 on the 3ds are great. I believe they are both translated now
Anonymous No.719731592
>>719722197
Modded version modded to have the NA ost and the uncensored outfits is the best version of the game.
Anonymous No.719731610
>>719731410
>worse graphics
Irrelevant on PC.
Anonymous No.719733264
>>719720027
the japanese 3ds version actually has an orchestral soundtrack
Anonymous No.719734550
>>719726494
it was my first dq and i love it and hate it
to much water
Anonymous No.719734843
>>719719652
theres orchestral patch available that fixes that issue
Anonymous No.719735036
>>719720495
Go back to ResetEra retard.
Anonymous No.719735228 >>719736102 >>719736178
>>719719597 (OP)
Don't play the 3DS version
Anonymous No.719735336 >>719736178
It's downgrades trash only Nintendofags could swallow.
Anonymous No.719736102
>>719735228
Anyone who gives a fuck about this is retarded. All the additions make it well worth it.
Anonymous No.719736178 >>719736423 >>719736491 >>719744880
>>719735228
>>719735336
Not enough of a graphics whore to forsake all the QoL in the 3DS version.
Anonymous No.719736247
>>719719597 (OP)
They're all shit.
Anonymous No.719736423
>>719736178
It's the same two images that have been getting posted endlessly for years. I guarantee you he doesn't even know what the additions are.
Anonymous No.719736491 >>719736652 >>719736704
>>719736178
That's fair, but the PS2 release was one of the most gorgeous games of its era.
>>719731483
The 3DS remake of DQM2 is the magnum opus of the entire series. The translators did a terrific job making it enjoyable for my gaijin peabrain.
Anonymous No.719736652 >>719736941
>>719736491
>PS2 release was one of the most gorgeous games of its era.
There is more important things in games than visuals, you know, like the content of the game itself?
Anonymous No.719736704
>>719736491
I agree but you can just play DQ11 now if you want a great looking Dragon Quest game.
Anonymous No.719736941 >>719737078 >>719740325
>>719736652
It's a visual medium you daft cunt, the content includes the visuals. Do you play games without looking at the screen?
Anonymous No.719737078
>>719736941
Audiovisual
Anonymous No.719737232
To all the people console warring, you can patch the 3ds version and restore the soundtrack and old scenes. Also the ps2 version doesnt even look THAT good. People are using cherry picked screenshots. Like I could trick you into thinking Dark Souls 2 is pretty if you're gullible enough.
Anonymous No.719737878 >>719738703 >>719738961 >>719740407 >>719740504
>>719719597 (OP)
I wish people that asked for "jumping in points" for game series would follow the logical conclusion of this pointless exercise.

You aren't creating some insane lifehack by playing games outside of release order, you think you need to because you've been conditioned by the internet to think its normal. Its not its asinine. Noone asks this about book series and movie series. If you are interested in the series start with 1 its the best starting point.
Anonymous No.719738703
>>719737878
>Noone asks this about book series and movie series
Because book series tend to follow a continuing story and it doesn't take 20-80 hours to watch a movie. In the case of Dragon Quest specifically, 1 is likely to filter a lot of people who might otherwise enjoy the series because of how stupid simplistic it is (And for the record I love 1), and 2 is 2.
Anonymous No.719738724 >>719745246
Dragon Quest 8 doesn't need any extra content. The original is already a very lengthy 80 hours game with a decent post game.
Anonymous No.719738910
>>719719652
The better graphics and voice acting too. But if you don't care about graphics, voice acting, and music, go for the 3DS version since it has more content.
Anonymous No.719738961
>>719737878
what a comically dumb motherfucker
Anonymous No.719738996 >>719739109 >>719739196 >>719740063
Which version of DQ5 should I play? I prefer to avoid DS/Mobile, but I'll consider them if there are compelling reasons. I'm leaning towards PS2.
Anonymous No.719739109
>>719738996
DS version is the best. One extra waifu (the best by far), faster and smother gameplay than PS2 version as well.
Anonymous No.719739196 >>719739787
>>719738996
They are all good. The compelling reason for the DS remake is the angry ojou-sama wife. Oh, and the party chat is pretty swell too.
Anonymous No.719739787 >>719740143 >>719740390
>>719739196
The other versions don't have party chat? Then one must be retarded to play the other versions. The party chat makes your party members who are otherwise static feel extremely alive. Unique dialog to nearly everything happening in the game. And the DS games have the best party chat that displays text smoothly and instantly so you can really spam it.

Party chat fucking sucked in 8 and 11.
Anonymous No.719740063
>>719738996
PS2 for the orchestral soundtrack and the 3D graphics(and the fan translation is decent as well if you don't care for SE's punny localizations)
DS for the extra wife
Anonymous No.719740143 >>719740310
>>719739787
To be entirely fair, a large chunk of DQ5 doesn't feature human party members.
Anonymous No.719740310
>>719740143
You can revisit all locations in the game with for example your children and they will have unique dialog to everything. Like for example your daughter will start crying when you visit that camp where you were enslaved.
Anonymous No.719740325
>>719736941
It's an interactive medium, the gameplay itself and the content inside are the most important part. I don't give a fuck if you make it PS1 fidelity or modern fidelity. The game itself matters the most. Go suck off graphics somewhere else.
Anonymous No.719740390 >>719740560
>>719739787
>The other versions don't have party chat?
PS2 has party chat if I recall.
Pretty much every post-7 game has party chat (I don't think the new DQ3 does, but it's still a creatable character game).
Anonymous No.719740407
>>719737878
Based
Anonymous No.719740503
I started 5 on my 3DS but might start it over on an emulator so I can fast forward desu
Anonymous No.719740504 >>719740801
>>719737878
>Noone asks this about book series and movie series.
Wheel of Time.
Narnia.
Lord of the Rings.
Star Wars.
Star Trek.
Stargate.
Most franchises with "Star" in the name have this issue.
Anonymous No.719740560 >>719740784
>>719740390
>Pretty much every post-7
The party chat feature is horrendous in 8, takes a while to load and doesn't have a lot of dialog. It's also not good in 11 but to be fair, 11 is the only game in the series that has more than enough interaction between the party members without any extra features promoting that. It's very much a traditional JRPG in that sense instead of classic Dragon Quest.
Anonymous No.719740765
>>719728305
this.

the rest of the 3ds version is perfectly fine too unless you're some autist
Anonymous No.719740784 >>719740907
>>719740560
>It's also not good in 11 but to be fair, 11 is the only game in the series that has more than enough interaction between the party members without any extra features promoting that
Pretty much any game with modern production sensibilities in regards to character writing doesn't need a party chat feature.
But DQ (and the remakes) having it puts its games head and shoulders above the likes of like, the entire FF series in terms of writing.
Anonymous No.719740801 >>719741367
>>719740504
>Lord of the Rings.
>Star Wars.
The fuck? All the movies in these two have to be seen in chronological order.
Anonymous No.719740907
>>719740784
Tales series needs it. It makes the games 100 times more enjoyable and it is genuinely the best and most standout feature of the tales series.
Anonymous No.719741367 >>719742708
>>719740801
>Lord of the Rings
I meant the books of course, wherein you start with The Hobbit. I see you've contributed to my point there.
>Star Wars
Do you start with A New Hope or The Phantom Menace?
Anonymous No.719742708 >>719743002
>>719741367
A New Hope of course. Anakin is just some autistic kid. How and why he becomes Darth Vader is what makes you keep watching.
Anonymous No.719743002 >>719743650
>>719742708
That's Lord Vader to you, and the insinuation that he was ever some whiny kid is a conspiracy theory pushed by the rebel alliance in a pathetic attempt to turn loyal Imperial citizens against their righteous leaders.
Anonymous No.719743245
>>719728305
They're complete jank though, they despawn if you turn the camera away from them.
Anonymous No.719743650
>>719743002
Vader's past as Anakin would have probably been very favorable propaganda material for the empire. A slave boy turning into the second most powerful figure of the empire.
Anonymous No.719744307
>>719719597 (OP)
>(am not Japanese)
They're all in english and have been in english since the NES era.

8 is not a good starting point because that's where Level 5 took over development, also Richard Honeywood took over localization, and so every character talks like they're doing an imitation of a cockney british person.
It's awful.
Anonymous No.719744369 >>719745132 >>719747081
>>719731103
3DS is so jarring visually, there are so many scenes where NPCs are replaced with 2D cardboard cutouts because it was too hard for the 3DS to render that many NPCs at once
Anonymous No.719744513
I hate when these games have job systems because I don't like to experiment, I like all characters to have a set use, I hate when you can make anyone do anything in RPGs.
Anonymous No.719744880 >>719745056
>>719736178
Might as well only play 8-bit indie trash or RPG Maker games, then. PS2 version will always be the better one.
Anonymous No.719745056
>>719744880
I'll play whatever I want lil bro.
Anonymous No.719745132 >>719745427 >>719747081
>>719744369
ok I'll admit I've never played the PS2 version but I'm playing 3DS right now and comparing as I go and it seems pretty 1 to 1 to me cutscene wise? The actual issue is them boosting the saturation of the whole game, I don't mind it sense it feels more in line with the other games but I can see how its a little garish.

I'd have preferred if it was a demake in the style of DQ7 instead of a straight port though. Maybe my opinion will change once I get the boat but the "to scale" overworld feels unnecessary, exploring all of it with random encounters sounds like hell.
Anonymous No.719745246
>>719738724
The extra content are all garbage recolored bosses, anyway. 3DS version fags are cucks that want to marry Jessica.
Anonymous No.719745427
>>719745132
Over saturation is because most 3DS come with shit TN screen so they tried to balance it out software wise.
Anonymous No.719747081 >>719747347
>>719745132
Probably has something to do with how it's expected to look outside in daytime
>>719744369
Thats not anything I care about at all. I care about the game and how it plays and whats there is for me to do.

What is more important. There being less trees and saturation? The game having characters that should've been in the game on launch that felt like cut content?
Anonymous No.719747347 >>719748346
>>719747081
>The game having characters that should've been in the game on launch that felt like cut content
Completely made up shit. The game is intended with 4 characters. 8 is the first game in the series that strives for a more immersive experience. Yet now 2 party members watch the others fight like cucks. Makes total sense when the others fight the big evil final boss and 2 guys just chill.
Anonymous No.719747441 >>719747565 >>719748783 >>719749009 >>719749562
>>719720495
Why do trannies have a hate boner for the DQ composer?
Anonymous No.719747565 >>719748783
>>719747441
More like why are there trannies that try to dicksuck the guy. Has been sabotaging the series for years and 11 soundtrack is total shit.
Anonymous No.719747642
>>719719597 (OP)
This might be outdated
Anonymous No.719747665 >>719748924
>>719731103
Nah OP this dude is a flaming fag. While the 3DS does have some QoL content it looks cheap as fuck when compared with the Original. The Original PS2 game was a masterpiece. It was a big budget title and felt like one.
Anonymous No.719748346 >>719748979 >>719748987
>>719747347
>Completely made up shit.
If you tell me Red doesn't feel like cut content in the original you're insane. She feels like she is supposed to be a big deal and then shows up like twice.
Anonymous No.719748480
Here comes the best opinion on the matter. 11 is the spiritual direct sequel to 8. If you plan to play 11 on handheld like switch or the 3DS version then play 8 3DS version. If you plan to play 11 on a big screen in the full 3D mode then definitely play the PS2 version.

That way the experience is way more consistent.
Anonymous No.719748783 >>719749081
>>719747565
Fucking idiots like you need the rope.

>B-but midi soundtrack!
Eat shit. If you want to blame someone blame fucking SE for being too jewish to pay for it. Those orchestrated versions weren't made and funded by SE, but by Sugiyama. SE didn't want to pay money for the version he made with his professional orchestra.

>>719747441
Because he supposedly said something transphobic once and he was a war vet! The amount of idiotic mouthbreathers that parrot this still to this day is disgusting. If you look the incident in question it was a tv interview with him and other person, said other person said the supposedly transphobic comments and Sugiyama laughed. Have you EVER seen a jap interview? Ever? This is literally just how they're programmed socially to react regardless on if they think its funny, agree, or disagree. It's just filling dead air. Then some fucking tumblrtards spread their hateful drivel and now you got thousands of morons that were saying its a good thing he died.

I wish the "tolerant" lefty types would jump off a bridge.
Anonymous No.719748924 >>719749239 >>719749260 >>719749327
>>719747665
Giving a fuck about visuals of all things in a fucking DQ game misses the point entirely. Especially in a fucking RPG.

https://www.rpgsite.net/preview/5138-here-are-the-changes-and-additions-to-dragon-quest-viii-on-3ds
If you look at all these additions and changes and see and inferior version just over visuals you're a moron.
Anonymous No.719748979 >>719749342
>>719748346
NTA but Red and Morrie never felt like they should be party members. I really don't get the hangup on Red, like, you might as well say Marcello was a cut party member too.
Anonymous No.719748987
>>719748346
...she is literally the main character of Yangus backstory chapter that just gets delayed because Yangus is a party member from the start. You realize all party members received a backstory chapter with unique characters appearing in them? If she doesn't exist Yangus genuinely has no tie to the world. Just because she is hot doesn't require her to play a grand role. It just means Yangus gets good pussy and you don't need to feel sad for him.
Anonymous No.719749009
>>719747441
All I know about the guy is that he was a WW2 war crime denier
Anonymous No.719749081 >>719749234
>>719748783
He is dead mate. You can't suck his cock any longer.
Anonymous No.719749234
>>719749081
Eat shit
Anonymous No.719749239 >>719749797
>>719748924
Especially love the extra censorship.
Anonymous No.719749260 >>719749797
>>719748924
>unnecessary part members that don't make sense to have
>worse encounter system
>alchemy pot is more abusable
>unnecessary bullshit to try and make dhoulmagus a tragic villain
>""""QoL""""
Yeah, I bet you like the fact that zoom goes through ceilings and costs 0 MP in modern DQs too huh, you faggot.
Anonymous No.719749327 >>719749925
>>719748924
It's added content that isn't required to experience the game and feel more like fan content added in. This game was made for random encounters and the game greatly changes with that being removed for example. The game looks and sounds great on a modern PS2 Emulator and OP would do a disservice to this game if he plays it first on the 3DS. If in the future he wants to replay the game he can always play the 3ds version in original hardware or emulated. It he there for him, but for a first time experience. It has to be the PS2.
Anonymous No.719749342 >>719749738 >>719749943
>>719748979
Red feels like she should've always joined and had more story importance. She always felt underdeveloped but felt meant for more. Not Morrie, he's just an extra, which is fine.
>Mercello
An antagonist, not even close.
Anonymous No.719749562 >>719750135 >>719751317
>>719747441
He's famous for being one of the first video game composers to claim royalties for his music, and said royalties went toward the lobbying of textbook publishers to omit mention of Japanese war crimes, as well as the publication of pieces asserting that tales of Japanese war crimes were a hoax.
Anonymous No.719749738 >>719749857
>>719749342
Mate, Red never even had concept art when they were making VIII, they based her design off of fucking Aira/Aishe. She was never supposed to be super important.
Anonymous No.719749797 >>719749925 >>719750245 >>719750509
>>719749260
>unnecessary part members that don't make sense to have
Subjective
>worse encounter system
I prefer random but I can live with on map. People make too big a stink.
>alchemy pot is more abusable
Abusable? More like made useful. Waiting on it in the original was terrible. You could cook something and in the time it took to cook it would be useless. There is a reason why alchemy doesn't function the same in any other game.
>unnecessary bullshit to try and make dhoulmagus a tragic villain
Imagine getting pissed at more story, fucking how?
>""""QoL""""
Yes. QoL. Because the original isn't some perfect game like some like to act. Fixes can be made.
>I bet you like the fact that zoom goes through ceilings and costs 0 MP in modern DQs too huh, you faggot.
No you absolute double nigger. Thats something that should've never been changed. Absolutely soulless design.
>>719749239
Sucks but thankfully easily patchable, same with music.
>It's added content that isn't required to experience the game and feel more like fan content added in.
Games aren't about whats required. Its about what you yourself want to do. Most of the new shit is optional, don't want to do it then don't. I love hunting every bit of optional content I can get from my RPGs.
>The game looks and sounds great on a modern PS2 Emulator and OP would do a disservice to this game if he plays it first on the 3DS.
If your only sell is visuals then you lose me and a lot of others. Content matters.
>If in the future he wants to replay the game
A lot of people don't replay games and seek a complete experience first go. Expecting people to do multiple playthroughs of a long RPG is wild.
Anonymous No.719749857
>>719749738
Agree to disagree.
Anonymous No.719749925 >>719750245
>>719749797
Meant to add a reply to
>>719749327
Anonymous No.719749943 >>719750214
>>719749342
I wholeheartedly disagree and this proves to me 3DS fags don't understand the themes in 8. Red is the talented teacher of Yangus. Yangus tragic point is that he was always a bum, a good for nothing. That even as a thief he didn't have any talent compared to his teacher.

It's trough the hero journey in 8 that he proves that he is someone. Where he shows amazing human qualities. That he is a hero. A man that made a decision and stuck to it with full loyalty to the bitter end, never even thinking about running away. He is growing his wings. All that is thematically ruined when his talented teacher comes along, someone that was never hero material and that just tags along for fucks sake. Yangus is the best party member by far and he deserves to shine.
Anonymous No.719750135 >>719750218
>>719749562
>He's famous for being one of the first video game composers to claim royalties for his music
Thats a good thing. If you make a product and it'll sold on its own you deserve royals.
>the rest of that drivel
Who gives a fuck. His money he gets to spend it however he wants. He could use it to personally shoot orphans for all I care.

Notice not of the shit people say against him has anything to do with the music itself.
Anonymous No.719750214 >>719750294
>>719749943
And Red being playable makes Yangus not shine how?
Anonymous No.719750218
>>719750135
>Notice not of the shit people say against him has anything to do with the music itself.
11 soundtrack sucks ass and that was his final work. Yes, even the orchestra version was shit.
Anonymous No.719750245 >>719750449
>>719749797
>>719749925
Okay faggot here's what's up. People do play their games based on presentation. The 3DS version feels like a cheap mobile game. The PS2 feel like a high budget game of the era. The best way to experience the original story is playing the PS2 version emulated on a modern PC.
Anonymous No.719750294
>>719750214
>completely ignoring everything I wrote just to talk back
I made my point, if you have nothing to contribute then just don't reply to me. People can form their own opinions with these posts.
Anonymous No.719750449 >>719750681 >>719750693
>>719750245
All I read here is the words of a faggot who only cares about visuals. /v/ used to endlessly mock your kind and the fact that this is the standard here now needs to get shat on at every occurrence. The changes to the alchemy pot alone make it the better product.
Anonymous No.719750509 >>719750731 >>719751430
>>719749797
>Subjective
Its objective. There's zero reason to have them, they do not have strong ties to the overarching story.
>Abusable? More like made useful. Waiting on it in the original was terrible. You could cook something and in the time it took to cook it would be useless.
This is flat out wrong, the stuff you would make from alchemy in the original would last you through multiple areas, the timer balanced it, at worst you would make something and find out you saved a bunch of gold cause its the best thing available in the next town. There's a reason why the instant pot was a postgame reward for beating the super boss.
>Imagine getting pissed at more story, fucking how?
Are you fucking serious? Its basically fan fiction that tries to warp the context of a villain to make you feel sorry for him when he was originally supposed to just be a power hungry fool. More story is absolutely a bad thing when its done like this, in general its usually scuffed in some way, I can't think of a single game rerelease where more story has been a good thing outside of the Tatsuya scenario in Persona 2.
>Yes. QoL. Because the original isn't some perfect game like some like to act. Fixes can be made.
The only QoL it needed was a chart to show you what you learn on each skill tree when you're allocating points.
Anonymous No.719750681
>>719750449
Not that guy but you're retarded for dismissing the visuals for this game of all titles. You couldn't make a more retarded point when it comes to Dragon quest 8. If you just want to have your generic DQ experience then there are tons of other titles in the series to choose from. This game is intended as a big immersive dream like adventure.
Anonymous No.719750693 >>719751171
>>719750449
Okay you little bitch. Let me tell you a secret. You can speed up the alchemy by going on top of the monster arena and running in a loop for a couple minutes. You probably never knew this because you are a fag that didn't play the game as God intended, the PS2.
Anonymous No.719750708 >>719750853 >>719750960
>caring about graphics for Dragon Quest
Anonymous No.719750731
>>719750509
>There's a reason why the instant pot was a postgame reward for beating the super boss.
lmao skill issue. I bought mine at Target for like $100
Anonymous No.719750853
>>719750708
Exactly. This is the game in the series that was made with a big budget and great graphics. You can go back to shit graphics with the other games. How hard is this to understand. This series doesn't have just 2 games. It has a million games. And what makes this title so unique is undeniably the graphics.
Anonymous No.719750960 >>719751509
>>719750708
8 and 11 are gorgeous games and you are a fucking turbo faggot for wanting them uglier.
Anonymous No.719751021
>>719719597 (OP)
If you have a modded 3ds you can patch back in the orchestrated soundtrack and uncensored ps2 outfits.
Anonymous No.719751154
>>719721276
11 is an anniversary game.
It isn't related to any of the other games, but you get more out of it if you played some of the older games like 1 and 3 first
Anonymous No.719751171 >>719751270
>>719750693
>You can speed up the alchemy by going on top of the monster arena and running in a loop for a couple minutes.
That's a waste of fucking time. How could you excuse this let alone think its a good thing.
>You probably never knew this because you are a fag that didn't play the game as God intended, the PS2.
I played it on both. Most of my time on PS2. It's one of my favorite games of all time and I think its the de facto best looking game on the system. None of that matters over game content and fixes.
Anonymous No.719751270
>>719751171
>None of that matters over game content and fixes.
And ruined themes. Change Yangus for Red in the party and marry Jessica. Ideal first time experience.
Anonymous No.719751317
>>719749562
based. rip
Anonymous No.719751392
>>719731405
Yeah.
I did it last year, but it takes some fucking with the wifi settings on your ds
Anonymous No.719751430
>>719750509
>There's a reason why the instant pot was a postgame reward for beating the super boss.
As a reward for having to deal with fucking tedium. also a reward that is absolutely useless when you're already done with everything.
>Its basically fan fiction that tries to warp the context of a villain to make you feel sorry for him when he was originally supposed to just be a power hungry fool.
Because more context is bad. Also look up what the word "fan" means.
Anonymous No.719751509
>>719750960
It'll take any visual downgrade over a better overall experience with more stuff to do.
Anonymous No.719751597
>dq12 will be the last mainline dq sugiyama taints with his lazy phoned in soundtracks
thank god
Anonymous No.719752030
Was the 3DS version developed by level 5 or not? This is all I need to know.