Thread 719720992

>We got Dancing Lion at home
https://youtu.be/f9jiLT6nM_g?si=sH_q6eX__Rc7V_5M

>>719720992 (OP)
We've reached the point where Nioh bosses cover the screen with less particle vomit than Fromsoft bosses

>>719721209
Nioh bosses seem to have a stamina bar, that's why.

>Actually stops attacking every so often
>Doesn't fill the screen with random AOEs
I don't see the resemblance to Dancing Lion to be honest.

>>719721442
>>Actually stops attacking every so often
>>Doesn't fill the screen with random AOEs
Yeah, that's the "at home" part
Alongside the bad animations

>>719720992 (OP)
>tsuchigumo but slower and easier
I have a nuTeam Ninja fatigue.

Looks like a really fun boss. We already knew this from people going out of bounds in the alpha demo but it looks like samurai 2kat and ninja tonfa are confirmed. I saw a lightning infused version of 2kat's "raijin" skill around 2:14. It would be cool if we got the beta around TGS.

Stance less tonfa, lane

Nice to see 2kat won't actually be locked to ninja form. That was kind of lame from the alpha.

>>719722343
It was pretty obvious even without going out of bounds since it was called "ninja dual swords" and one of them is wielded in reverse grip. Ninja 2kat is basically just a new weapon that has some things from the normal version like Water Sword.

This shit is hilarious

>>719722662
This is pure parry slop game design, absolutely grim

Is it gonna be a sony exclusive for a year or like wolong?

>>719720992 (OP)
>at home
Soulsshit wishes it could be as good as Nioh combat. It's one of those rare cases where the copy eclipses the original.

>>719722729
Wakey wakey, dumbass

>>719722909
Don't like this mechanic either not sure what your point is

>>719720992 (OP)
>Boss randomly floats mid air to ubertrack the player rolling in the air to stomp the correct spot
Team Ninja STILL can't make bosses to save their lives

>>719723027
It was cringe in Nioh 1 but it's based in 2 since you can actually counter it.

>>719722729
There's nothing "slop" about that webm at all.

>>719721593
lmao this nigga is serious? from animations are dogshit, especially the multitude of unintelligible garbage they shit out these days. just look at shit like claymore attack animations, with your character dragging a 2 kg sword to the sides like a retard

>>719723096
It's pure slop, tracking combos designed around the overpowered parry/perfect dodge mechanic they've bolted onto the game for no reason.

>>719722868
>Soulsshit wishes it could be as good as Nioh combat. It's one of those rare cases where the copy eclipses the original.
Said no one ever but 10 niohfags.

>>719723263
Almos everything gets countered by backpedalling or an easymode ninja dodge.

>>719722868
It's not even a copy. there's some inspiration from souls games with some game design decisions like some consumables. but gameplay the dev inspired from their previous games

>>719723263
We get it, you're garbage and old

>>719723263
Tracking is not "slop" first of all and second, the boss whiffs plenty of attacks due to the player simply moving out of range.

>>719723403
The level design philosophy definitely is copied, albeit less so in 2 than in 1, and it seems that 3 will be something entirely different. But you are right about the combat, especially 2's.

>>719722662
>hilarious
I don't get it, whatd funny about it?

>>719723403
This is cope Nioh plays far closer to a souls game fundamentally than NG

>>719720992 (OP)
Eh, not bad but also not particularly inspired either, very basic "demon" design, the 4 arms open some interesting string animations but this very "2nd boss you fight" tier, like Enenra. That in itself isnt bad but its more like you tend to show some really fun stuff to sell your game like Kasha or Kamaitachi.

And the fact that this is supposed to be Takeda Shingen is disappointing, nioh2 yokai boss forms tended to be more samurai looking so we could appreciate a cool humanoid fight with yokai mechanics, this just feels they attached a random name to a monster. Im starting to worry nioh3 might be a monkey's paw wish.

On better(?) news, duo swords confirmed for sam and tonfas for ninja, though they already said there will be exclusive weapon classes for styles so thats also bad news. Tonfas were great, sure hope they arent locked with a gimped ninja moveset. And Yashas are back, thats nice she was a good enemy, dont like they painted her black, makes her half-mask stand out less.

Which game will be better out of the two?

Obviously Team Ninja chads will buy both.

>>719723081
There's nothing random about his air attacks, all of them have pretty clear tells and reasonable timing. He's using wind magic at some points to bounce off the air for some attacks but nothing looks wrong about it.

>>719721593
>This is just like Dancing Lion
>Except for the part where it doesn't look like it, doesn't behave like it, and isn't garbage
Okay retard.

>>719724323
Major boss baby vibes from this boss ngl

>>719720992 (OP)
The Dancing Lion is absolute dogshit in every respect except for its aesthetic and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>719724892
filtered retard

Nioh gang we are back

>>719724117
That will hold you over until Nioh 3 but it's a joint thing between Team Ninja and Platinum Games, though. While the A and B team of Team Ninja are working on NG4, the S team is working on Nioh 3 alone.

>>719724117
Nioh 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, but I'm more excited for NG4 because it's been so long.

>>719720992 (OP)
The boss looks serviceable but nothing special, but then again, Nioh was never about le ebic boss fights and more about moment to moment gameplay and mastering your chosen weapons and build.
It's not Elden Ring where any moment you're not fighting some Zanzibart is basically wasted time.

They are going to release it the same day as GTA, right?

>>719724892
Not really, its amidst the best dlc fights with Rellana, Midra, Bayle and Messmer.

>>719725237
no such thing as 'teams' in TN the devs work on everything and none of them are working on NG4 outside of a producer credit. Also Nioh 3s lead producer only other producer credits were yaiba and undead knights lol not exactly S tier talent

>>719724892
Many are saying this.

>>719720992 (OP)
Looks like a good fight. Decent pacing, playing on the four arms thing, boss jumps over you and doesn't fuck up the camera. Can't wait for this to drop on PC.

>>719725237
>abcd teams
Not everyone is From retard. TN as whole works on the same things. NG4 is really all Plat + no more than 1 producer from TN who probably did nothing more than check in on development once every few months.

>>719725480
>>719726439
You guys say this then turn around use S/A/B/C/D teams lol

>>719720992 (OP)
>flux back
>stances back
>retarded journalist can't do either
yup Nioh is back, baby!!

>>719722729
>>719722909
>BWWOOOAAAAHHH!

>>719726439
>no more than 1 producer from TN who probably did nothing more than check in on development once every few months.
We already got interviews where we can see TN were a lot more involved than that and has had major impact on the balancing of the game to the point of making mechanics feel completely different compared to how they were made at first by Plat.

>>719724892
Git Gud

>>719725092
Back to the slop manger lmao.

>>719720992 (OP)
was ninjitsu uses regening?
(i only beat nioh2 because of feather cheese)

>Nioh thread
>fromsoft not even mentioned or even hinted at in the OP
>fromfag sperging out in the thread
funnyroo, KWAB

>>719723263
The parry slop has nothing to do with it being overpowered. It has everything to do with it funneling you into a single action for every single enemy. I'm so fucking bored of it. Can I just have the option to turn the sound effect and aura off so I can make my own fucking decision instead of being told when to do something.

>>719720992 (OP)
Jesus Christ they still haven’t fixed the garbage animations on bosses, still no wind up whatsoever

>>719727163
>fromgfags sperg out in nioh threads
>niohggers sperg out in fromsoft threads
such is the way of /v/

>>719727231
>still no wind up whatsoever
>watch video
>boss attacks have wind ups

>>719722662
Niohtards will tell you nioh is not soulslop and its le unique thing!!

>>719726998
i literally thought this was nioh 2 at first
you can really tell team ninja was in miyazaki's head rent free

>>719727163
I like both From and TN games, it's just false-flagging children trying to stir shit up with fan-base wars as always. Ignore these idiots, they hate video games and you can easily identify them when they use the word "slop".

>>719727163
>>719727284

i'll buy and play if it's under 50 gig and has an easy mode

>>719720992 (OP)
i could take a nap before this fight ends

>>719720992 (OP)
Why doesn't this boss have a 20 combo attack chain? Why does it let the player actually attack it?

That looks nothing like dancing lion and the moveset is nothing like dancing lion. People on /v/ keep proving they're confidently blind

>>719720992 (OP)
Nioh 2 DLC enemies confirmed, the game might be decent then

>>719720992 (OP)
Wow the guy is really bad, that's who they have with action game experience at IGN?

>>719730314
>that's who they have with action game experience at IGN?
Probably not. It's not like there's only one guy who does all action games at IGN.
I know the one guy who has done Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja, but I doubt it's him playing this then.

>>719727298
When fromfags say "wind up", they mean "infinitely delayed gotcha swings" like the burst attack in the video

>>719724117
I have 400+ hours in Nioh 2 and I'm looking forward to NG4 a lot more than Nioh 3. It's not even that I'm not looking forward to Nioh 3, because as you said I'll be getting both regardless. I think I was just so satisfied with 2 that I don't need another one. It's a mix of that, not being sure about some of the mechanical changes 3's making and (at least conceptually) the fact that I'd probably have been more interested in that "Celtic legends" game idea that Yasuda floated in an interview a few years ago.

Idk about you guys but to me, boss fights were always the least interesting part of any of the nioh games, I enjoy fighting mobs a lot more, although same sized human bosses are fine, I like those.

>>719731547
I like both. Nioh always had some really good bosses imo.
Blasting through a level when you're really good is the best part though

>>719731547
The bosses that are actually fair and balanced like Shuten Doji are enjoyable.

>>719720992 (OP)
Looks like a kino fight.

>>719732112
Team Ninja really leveled up their boss fights with Nioh compared to Ninja Gaiden.

>Swapping between Samurai/Ninja
I'm good, thanks.

FromSoft games are better because it takes more skill. Dodging a 50 attack chain with delayed attacks and bad telegraph and only being able to attack once after it before it does it again is better than Nioh 3.

>>719733045
*cast magic powering spell*
*drinks infinite magic flask*
*charges up comet azur*
*deletes 70~100% of the boss HP*

gg no re, ez, I don't even know the moveset of some bosses because they simply fucking died before they could move.

>>719720992 (OP)
I think it looks pretty cool but I want to fit in with these people that will forget about my post after the thread dies so I will say it looks like gay parry roll slop and then praise or also shit on a completely different game because whatever who cares

I'm gonna replay nioh 2 this month

>>719731547
mobs are soso nioh is best with a 1 on 1 vs a human

>>719733045
Even the guy playing in the video, who is shit, is doing a mix of dodging and attacking. What are you talking about? And if you've ever played Nioh(you haven't), you'd know you can be extremely aggressive just fine

So can the deflect in Nioh 3 be used against most attacks or is it only for specific things?

>>719737710
All attacks expect red burst attacks and grabs. I forget if it works against things like elemental projectiles though.

>>719737196
Bro, I was speaking positively of Nioh. I was making fun of more recent FromSoft games having 20-chain long anime combos with terribly telegraphed attacks mixed in with delayed attacks. Nioh doesn't really have any of it and I was making a point where the player in the video was able to actually "have his turn" because the boss actually has stamina.

>>719737903
It does, so yes everything but Burst Attacks and grabs.

>>719737903
>>719738296
No wonder the YouTubers I watched were having such a hard time with the demo. It looked like they weren't deflecting at all. I feel like this might be too easy if this is the case.

>>719720992 (OP)
Any new weapons?

>>719738709
They're likely just bad at the game either way. I played the alpha and I don't think deflects will make things too easy.

So I take it as that fists are no longer a weapon type, right?

That shit is so ass, I will have to go back to the spear.

>>719738709
I don't know who you watched, but while I'd prefer it weakened it still has tight timing and is far from a get out of jail free guard. It also offers little to no offensive benefit and enemies can punish you heavily like usual if you get it wrong and haven't learned the timings yet, the enemy and boss movesets are as varied as ever so actually deflecting strings is hard.
>>719739316
Fists are one of the weapons that will be in both Samurai as their original self and in Ninja as a new weapon called Talons.

>>719739223
Technically new, they show 2kat in Samurai and Tonfa in Ninja. But since the person playing is awful you barely get to see anything from either.

>Dual swords for both Samurai and Ninja
Eh okay but can they at least make the attacks different between the stances? Dual sword samurai should be like Kuroi from Blade of the Immortal. Long, wide swings that can hit a small group.

>>719741060
Ninja 2kat wields one of the blades in reverse grip so I think that makes it somewhat distinct. Ninja mode in general has better air combat options as well. There's also a ninja 1kat that's wielded reverse grip style as well.

>>719741326
>a ninja 1kat that's wielded reverse grip style as well
Is there? No offense but you sure you aren't thinking of Rise of the Ronin?

>>719742009
It's in Nioh 3 as well, they've shown a clip of it on their Twitter. Odds are it'll take a bunch of moves and animations from Ronin though.

>>719742526
ah nice

>>719720992 (OP)
Some of those move sets looks rehashed.
This souls slops is so tiring

I really wish I could've played the demo. I'm still not grasping what the hell the ninja mode is or how the controls work this time around

>Two threads in a row with a mindbroken Eldenfag

Grim

>>719746527
It's sort of like Job switching in SoP. You have ninjutsu assigned to R1+square, triangle, and X instead of stances. R1 is "mist" instead of ki pulse but it functions similarly by quickly resetting your last action. The only difference is that it doesn't recover ki and it can move you a small distance in the chosen direction of the left stick. Ninjutsu also restores by dealing damage so it's a frequently usable part of your move-set instead of something that you ration. The active skills from Nioh1/2 are now called Martial Arts and can be done with triangle + stick movement inputs instead of guard+face button. Guard+face button now corresponds to Guardian Spirit skills which are just flashy attacks using your spirit. According to the feedback survey, there's going to be an alternate control scheme that lets you use MAs with the old guard+face button setup though.

>>719720992 (OP)
too many bars on screen, desu