Thread 719724910

DARK. ATMOSPHERIC. KINO.

such a cool game. most of it wasn't fun though

>>719724910 (OP)
It's a shame that Miyazaki's entire career was spent attempting to recapture this but making it worse with every new iteration.

>>719724996
All of it was fun though doe

>>719725067
I think if they attempted to do a King's Field reboot/sequel, head get pretty close again. The fps design would lend itself back to designing environments and levels instead of being a boss rush sim, or that's what my hopeium is telling me.

>>719725067
>It's a shame that Miyazaki's entire career was spent attempting to recapture this but making it worse with every new iteration.
No it wasn't. They never did a hub world and segmented levels after this one.

>>719725684
Bloodborne?

>>719725748
never played that shit

>>719725684
Dark Souls II and III kinda did that, just without actual menu teleportation.

And Bloodborne did literally have menu teleportation.

>>719725810
>Dark Souls II and III kinda did that
No they didn't.

>>719725684
On the contrary, he never bothered to do Dark Souls' metroidvania 1:1 scale design again. It makes sense, as it leads to a lot of shortcomings in moment to moment level design, which is why the best areas of Dark Souls were both self-contained areas.

>>719724910 (OP)
>beat Phalanx
>get lost in the Nexus for an hour looking for a stupid statue
Thanks Miyazaki.

>>719725946
I thought it worked out pretty well for the most part. The different paths around Darkroot, wandering down into spooky ghost town early, the shortcut through Valley of Drakes. Only thing I think kinda sucks is noobs getting stuck in Tomb of the Big Boners with no warp.

>>719724910 (OP)
Its a masterpiece.

>>719726183
kek you BTFO that other fag so hard

>>719724996
this but with every souls game

>>719725567
Hackizaki would butcher Kingsfield and make it play like Zoom Eternal

>>719725067
Fromsoft has been trying for 30 years to make a game better than Shadow tower. But they fail everytime because they are too pussy to make a claustrophobic cruel pure survival horror dungeon crawler

>>719724996
so true...
absolutely nobody enjoys 2-1, 4-2, 5-2, 1-3

>>719729202
4-2 is the best level From has made

>>719725907
They have a hub and spoke design, retard.

>>719729202
I enjoy all of those

>>719724910 (OP)
How can I play this on PC at 60fps?

>>719726381
>get lost in the Nexus for an hour looking for a stupid statue
Skill issue. The nexus isn't even that big, and you should have already explored most of it by that point.

>>719729202
>2-1
No thrust or magic damage? Big mistake
>4-2
No bow? Big mistake.
>5-2
Didn't use the black leather set and poison resist ring? Big mistake. Spears and bows can help against the swamp enemies too.
>1-3
Didn't use soul remains (OP item outside boss fights) to distract and bows to lure enemies one by one? Big mistake.

>>719727408
Of course, a patrician like Mark would recognize the value of Demon's Souls. He does not miss

How are you supposed to get past the dragon in 1-4 without Biorr?

>>719729202
Adapting to utter bullshit is the entire appeal of Fromsoft

>>719724910 (OP)
Why didn't Atlus every make another game like this?

>>719724910 (OP)
>>719725202
>>719727408
Trve, real, confirmed, still the best

>>719729202
The giant dark swamp was pure fucking kino. Ass end of the country, rainy, etc. It's a surreal environment.

>>719724910 (OP)
Outdated and outdone lilbro

>>719725067
wrong, (You)r entire life was spent attempting to recapture childhood impression of presence, instead of accepting that true art is the product of change over time, ie, exposure to the annihilating absence of everything (You) are fruitlessly longing for, namely, to be a kid again

>>719731545
Elden Ring is to Souls what Breath of the Wild is to Zelda.

>>719731958
it's actually to Souls as MM was to OoT but you're genuinely not ready for the convo, in an essential way that has to do with your character flaws

>>719732086
The level of seething that ER fags seem to permanently exist in makes be believe that even they subconsciously suspect the game might be shit.

>>719732356
sorry miyazaki's favorite part of his games were never actually what you thought they were
sorry le environmental storytelling and le lore was always just a compromise for technical limitations because fromsoft is a business software company first and knows how to trim a feature list to match the budget

>>719732567
I'm sorry that their cheapest, most restricted games ended up being their best. It's a shame that Miyazaki lacked the creativity to innovate and make good art after achieving success.

>>719731545
>boring open world with boring bland padding with boring loot
No thanks bro

>>719733276
no, he HAD the creativity to cradle and steward his idea through successive stages of revision and technical advance for literally 3 decades
(You) like the compromises he made with limitations because (You) were happier when you played them back then.
Elden Ring has more in common with Evergrace than Dark Souls, and thats what makes it a culmination of this living, breathing idea of the ultimate customizable action JRPG, which he has been taking very good care of for a long time. if you dont fuck with it at this point it's because of ego holding you back

>>719724910 (OP)
this but the remaster

>>719733890
...is dogshit

DeS+DaS were the best.
Wish FROM would go back to it, instead of creating slop

>>719731693
Funny because DeS was my second Fromsoft game since Kuon. Yet I dont like DeS at all. My favorites came much later with Shadow tower and Kingsfield 4. Its almost like this stupid childhood bullshit doesn't exist if you play a game enough because you understand all its issues

>>719725567
a new kings field is our only hope for an rpg that isnt 50 combo rollslop boss fights, and its a sadness

>>719734768
DeS DaS are like skim milk to Shadow towers whole milk

>>719735538
Slop Tower is a dogshit walking sim with zero depth gameplay

>>719735621
All the depth was put into hazards, world design, and survival aspects, instead of being a Rollspam ADHD simulator.
Kino tower is Fromsofts best ever game