Thread 719731601

With all this hollow knight talk, what metroidvanias are actually worth playing and rise above the rest? It's shovelware the genre from what I see on steam. My only experience with them are the gba Metroid games and Aria of Sorrow. I liked those well enough.

>>719731601 (OP)
Metroids are metroids and only real metroidvanias are few of the castlevania games.
Mainly symphony of the night and couple ds games I think.

>>719731601 (OP)
Nine Sols and Prince of Persia the Lost Crown.
Also, Astlibra, but it is mostly Castlevania-like.

>>719731952
>Astlibra
I ready played this. How is this a metroidvania? Platforming is a minor part of this game. It's 2D hack and slash game with rpg mechanics.

>>719731601 (OP)
Steamworld Dig 2 is a 10/10 and you will not be disappointed by it. It's a shame what happened to the devs though, and I hope we're still getting Headhunter & Dig 3 sometime.

>>719732742
Steam tags suggest that it is. But IMO, it has nothing in common with metroid. It has the same spirit as SotN for the most part.

>>719733712
>Steam tags
They're pretty dumb

>>719731601 (OP)
Ribi Rabi is like 5th best Metroidvania of all time

>>719735576
>5th best
What are the best 4?

>>719731601 (OP)
Rabi-Ribi
Nine Sols
Rusted Moss
TEVI
Biomorph

AMR2 or Return of Samus?

>>719737504
>TEVI
I will play this it looks fun even though it's anime shit

>>719731601 (OP)
You pretty much posted them

>>719731601 (OP)
every IGA game
Metroids

>>719731601 (OP)
Blasphemous and Guacamelee are among my favorites

>>719739304
AM2R
They're both fangames

>>719739304
Either is fine, although I'd go with the OG, make sure to get a manual if you do so you'll know where you're going.
Whatever you do, just don't play Samus Returns, that one is shit.
>>719741526
No it isn't.

Metroidvania is not a real genre.

>>719731601 (OP)
Grab the Castlevania Dominus Collection. Or emulate them.

>>719742338
it's on steam so it's a real genre

>>719737504
>Rusted Moss
I was really pissed while i was playing this with a controller. I understand that it's an indie and the game isn't designed around it, but there's a boss that has a shield that you can't attack around even though you should be able to, simply because the auto-aim is too aggressive on controller.
it's still doable with a controller, but it's a lot more rigid than it otherwise would be.
Also the last platforming challenge may as well be impossible on controller.

apart from that it's a very pretty and interesting game, which really just ends up pissing me off more.

>>719739304
samus returns was fine.

>>719744893
>3ds game

>>719731601 (OP)
Super is all you need baby

>>719739304
AM2R and it's not even close. You were warned.

>>719731601 (OP)
Hard but soulful.

The best metroidvania is Salt and Sanctuary. You can find more games to try if you want to check this random dude's list out (ignore the tier-ing).
>demajen.co.uk/tierlist.html

>>719744810
Why would you play a game designed with mouse and keyboard with a controller even the devs said so. My mouse was broken and I waited some time to get a replacement before playing this game

>>719731601 (OP)
Some of my favorites;

Symphony of the Night
Dawn of Sorrow
Order of Ecclesia
Portrait of Ruin
Ender Lilies
Ender Magnolia
Getsufumaden: Undying Moon
BloodStained Ritual of the Night
Dead Cells (however this is also a Roguelike)

>>719733148
Steam Dig 2 is fucking shit, you faggot.

>>719748045
because it's an option?
because it's a standard for the genre and for 2d platformers in general?
because it's an option that should be reasonable and the devs just never bothered to reason out a fix for one or two spots that nearly invalidates all the work they put into the control scheme?

>>719747587
Terrible game, not soulful, and stupidly easy beyond the first 10 minutes.

>>719748347
>Getsufumaden: Undying Moon
this looks cool. Added to my list

>>719731601 (OP)
Environmental Station α and La Mulana are the best there is.

Is there any point in playing Nine Sols when Hollow Knight exists? It looks like just another clone.

>>719748793
bait

>>719748971
Genuinely curious. I have it on my Wish List and every time I go to get it I don't bother because I just think it's HK clone #1000

>>719749114
it's 2D Sekiro.

>>719748793
>>719749114
Assuming this isn't bait. It's far more action-focused with a much more directly told story than Hollow Knight. A good way to put it would be that Nine Sols is to HK what Sekiro is to Dark Souls- faster, more mobile, more intense fights, narrower combat design, and a lot more dialogue and character interaction. The boss design is very good for the most part, with the final boss being one of those ones you get stuck on for hours and then feel like a god when you kill. The writing is where I think the game did its best work, though. Definitely the best written game I've played in a long time.

>>719749114
Well for one it's barely a metroidvania

>>719749202
>>719749441
Maybe I'm thinking of that other game that came out around the same time as Nine Sols that was very very similar.

>>719731601 (OP)
Bloodstained is QUITE good

>>719751305
it looks ugly though

>>719731601 (OP)
Worldless

>>719749568
You mean this one?

>>719752396
>>719751305
Here's your ds visuals bro

>>719731601 (OP)
Banjo-Tooie

Dread is the greatest Metroidvania of all time. Fight me.

Metroids are the only good "vanias"

>>719756889
if you value smooth movement highly enough over everything else, yes.
the problem i have is that it's so wrought over that they forgot to make it technical enough to break the game like you can in super.

>>719757024
I don't need to break the game.

>>719731601 (OP)
Nine Sols is the 3rd best Metroidvania I've ever played

>>719760380
Eigong is so fucking good

>>719759084
I guess it fits

>>719763260
It's a near perfect 3D implementation of the formula. Only problem were the "bosses"