Thread 719738041

You know this to be true.

Yes but by altering the formula, it didn't survive either. The only thing that remains...is the brand name.

>>719738171
Series would die by four, and Capcom would be buried with dead IPs.

>>719738041 (OP)
Bring it back!

Wesker should have stayed dead. His best appearance will always be RE1.

The original concept for Resident Evil 4 was never groundbreaking, check out the Evil Within series. That was originally your future Resident Evil fanboys.

>>719738041 (OP)

Wrong. It wouldn't have become a multi-million selling franchise, but it would have survived just fine. There's an audience that would buy 500 of these games if 500 existed, and the original formula games were cheap to make.

>>719738543
Preferable.

>>719740172
Check your revisionism privilege chud.
RE4 became Devil May Cry.

> If the formula remained the same, this series would not have survived
yep
CV and 0 almost killed the franchise

>>719740519
>It wouldn't have become a multi-million selling franchise
It had already sold 15 million copies on the Playstation alone by then.

>>719740748
None of that makes sense in the Resident Evil universe, Chud.

it happened twice though

resident evil 7 happend for a reason

>>719740519
What about 0 and CVX?

>>719738041 (OP)
it'd have been better if it died then, everything after 4 is slop. hell even the plot went nowhere for over 20 years

>>719738171
>The only thing that remains...is the brand name.
This. RE lost its identity with RE4. Not saying RE4 was a bad game, that would be delusional, but it just wasn't a good RE game.

>>719740768
Only because capcom stupidly decided to make Remake and 0 gamecube exclusives when the main resident evil audience was on playstation

>>719738041 (OP)
No retard

>>719741489
0 was only shit because of the switching and no item boxes and C:V is one of the most over-hated games of all time.

>>719741506
>>719740686
Those that want to make money and have a long career in gaming believe otherwise. Do you think Capcom would survive if one of their best-selling IPs was to end?

>>719741687
Let's not pretend the old recipe was not becoming stale. These two titles just showed the rot that was already present.

>>719741646
CV was ported to PS2 a year after the Dreamcast release and flopped. Combined sales were about half what RE3 did on the PSX. 0 and the remake wouldn't have fared any better. The formula was dead and buried by that point.

>>719741917
Speak for yourself you absolute fucking nigger. I'd rather play C:V than the abominations that were 5 and 6. I'd have kept buying classic style RE games if they'd kept making them.

>>719741579
I actually found RE4 rather simplistic and monotonous. I think I enjoyed the visuals and story more than actually playing the game. I really appreciate how original REs make you feel paranoid all the time, you never feel safe there.

>>719742426
It certainly isn't my favorite RE game, that would be 2 or CV. I have a soft spot for CV because it was my introduction to the series and one of the first games I played on Dreamcast during an interesting time in my life. I didn't play RE4 until a few years after it released on the Wii.

>>719742135
Here's the problem with you fanatics.
Resident Evil has the potential to be more than just a horror game in a terrifying mansion or secluded area. People like you are the ones that box the series in and are upset because it does not meet your unrealistic expectations. Buying "classic games" would not have kept the series alive because the formula was becoming stale. This series requires new innovation to survive rather than becoming something you wish more people would buy just because it remained a classic style.

>>719742701
The best game isn't even set in a mansion though, it's set in a police station.

>>719738041 (OP)
True. Original RE3 sold half of RE2. People were already tired of the formula but /v/ zoomers and nostalgia boomers wouldn't know that.

>>719738041 (OP)
the series is not surviving despite changing the formula every 2 titles. all downhill since RE5

>>719742932
Cherry-picking......

>>719743236
RE2 will be remembered as one of the greatest games of all time. RE8 is already forgotten slop nobody gives a shit about.

>>719742701
>This series requires new innovation
such as?

>>719738041 (OP)
Resident Evil changes all the time

>>719739264

>"C-Chris?"
>"Stop it!"

>>719743359
>RE6 sold more than 7
lmao based

>>719743359
Thought Re2 was the highest selling one?

>>719743335
I do not care about 8, and what did the remake of 2 do to sell?

>>719743359
I am surprised REVs sold that much. I thought both games were piles of garbage.

>>719743417
How would you have responded without sounding mad?

Playing through 0 for the first time currently and this shit fucking sucks. CV blows it (and 3, tbqh) out of the water.

>>719743348
Look at 4.

>>719743498

I'll never understand why, coming after 4's insane reception 5 wasn't as good but it was an excellent game all around, with an almost perfect PC port (all that it was missing was couch co-op and versus multiplayer)

>RE5 most popular
Leon niggers in shambles. This is a Chris Redfield series.

>>719743483
RE2R was decent but is already no longer talked about anywhere. It was a good game on the surface but it was a lazy remake and left out quite a bit of content from the original.

>>719743359
Kek, where's survivor. Also
> re3r sold that well
Assuming they've spent like a couple beer cans on its development, it could be one of the biggest profits-to-cost in the series unironically.
I didn't expect RE6 to hold the 3rd place though, and it even was at the 2nd I guess, before re4r came out and people bought the original again, thousand keks.

>>719743498
Revelation 1 was dogshit but Revelation 2 was good, raid mode was fun imo. i think most of the sales were probably from chinese and korean customers though

>>719738041 (OP)
I know what this thread will ultimately be about and nobody cares about your shitty movies, Paul.

>>719743559
okay and? that was 20 years ago, what innovation would you suggest now?

>>719743541

I wouldn't have responded, I would have listened to what he had to say and that's what no one did.

>>719743498
1 probably had a massive bump due to being released on the 3DS right as it was finally starting to pick up, 2's numbers are probably horseshit because they're undoubtedly grouping sales of every chapter, so the game was like "$10" on launch.

>>719743610
It became OTS and did not remain a fixed camera game. It would have been fantastic if Capcom offered fixed camera angles as an option, but they did not.
Also, I can find recent topics concerning Remake 2, which is still being discussed.

>>719743452
RE 6 Sold a lot but the game was very expensive to make

>>719743549
0 is a niche title for becca fans and also if you are actually interested in the lore, or if you just wanted to see more RE1make style environments. i am all of the above

>>719743746
Fuck those movies.

>>719743585
>>719743498

Oh you meant Revelations and not 5. Yeah, I hated 1 but 2 was somewhat decent

>>719744041
The movies after the 2nd or 3rd one were fanfic tier dogshit.

>>719743829
You mean his mocking laugh and shittalking? Go to hell.

>make a game set in Africa with black people being the main enemies
>biggest game in the franchise
Why are you all like this

>>719743784
It important because OTS and the babysitting gimmick are still utilized in games today. So that is the impact that Resident Evil is known for: leading rather than following. You are not going to question me down when you have just supplied your rage at something you cannot refute.

>>719744151
God don't remind me,but that's the power of this series.

>>719744254
i'm not even disagreeing with you nor are you actually making a point, obviously you are just a retard baiting for attention

>>719743359
Yours is slightly out of date. These are the most recent numbers as of July 2025:
>Resident Evil 5 = 16,811,739
>Resident Evil 6 = 16,223,750
>Resident Evil 2 (2019) = 15,800,000
>Resident Evil 4 = 15,552,463
>Resident Evil VII: Biohazard = 15,400,000
>Resident Evil Village = 12,200,000
>Resident Evil 4 (2023) = 10,600,000
>Resident Evil 3 (2020) = 10,200,000
>Resident Evil (2002) = 8,479,301
>Resident Evil Revelations 2 = 6,300,000
>Resident Evil Revelations = 6,252,965
>Resident Evil 2 = 6,212,741
>Resident Evil 0 = 6,096,102
>Resident Evil = 5,331,647
>Resident Evil Code: Veronica & X = 4,369,490
>Resident Evil 3: Nemesis = 3,690,397

>>719744394
>>Relying on insults and unable to respond again.
You just want attention, then?

>>719744524
do you have worms in your brain?

>>719744506

R>esident Evil 5 = 16,811,739

Based.

Killing hordes of niggers what unites all gamers.

>>719743549
Based CV appreciator. I really like the much darker atmosphere CV has over the other classic RE games, especially the prison.

>>719744615
>>It important because OTS and the babysitting gimmick are still utilized in games today.

Is this not used in many games today?

>>719738041 (OP)
Yeah because it kept getting fucking worse.
And then they rebooted the gameplay with RE4. And then it kept getting fucking worse.
And then they rebooted the gameplay with RE7. And now it keeps getting fucking worse.

>>719744506
>>Fixed camera games selling, but not enough to keep a company alive.

Grim.

>>719744959
It was before the zombie outbreak craze.

>>719744743
Based on what?

>>719741454
Some of the individuals that worked on the P.T. trailer were even employed by them for 7.

>>719738543
5 was the kill point. 4 was a radical shakeup but retained enough of the feeling of classic RE to be relatable.
>spooky atmosphere still
>tank controls still
>the claustrophobic feeling of visibility restriction is maintained by only allowing you to rotate the camera so far until it stops
>inventory management still matters and arguably is expanded upon as a gameplay element
>forcing you to go into inventory to change equipment maintains the "pause and consider" combat of the classic games
4 is often lumped in with 5 as being identical but these design choices are criminally overlooked and make both games feel drastically different. 4 is like as much as you could alter the classic formula while still retaining some of its DNA. 5 crosses the line completely.

>>719744506
>>Resident Evil VII: Biohazard = 15,400,000
this is the biggest travesty
this game is a pile of shit

>>719744506
i dont believe in capcom reports or japanese reports in general

>>719738041 (OP)
Claire's enormous ass is all I have to add.

>>719747682
>trvke
it's the worst and gayest game in the whole franchise even somehow worse than RE8 and its fans are mindless drones that can't even explain why they think it's good

>>719741506
>everything after 4
Not to mention 0 and C:V. I had been playing through the entire main series bit by bit since late last year, finished REmake 4 about two months ago. Original 1, 2, 3 and 4 remain god tier games. REmake 1 is also remains impressive for how good it looks. The rest range from decent time wasters to tedious crap.

Is Survivor really bad?

>>719749285
Yes. Especially western release.

>>719743597
Fans didn't get the memo.

>>719749427
what are the differences?

>>719749660
DELETE THIS

>>719749689
Don't know the full list, but the main one is it's a lightgun game with lightgun controls cut from the western version.
The game is shit regardless.

>>719749660
>Ethan Winters
Okay I did not play 7 and 8. Why is this new guy so popular?

>>719749982
Harem King.

>>719749982
he's the protagonist of both those games, he's gay and uninteresting so i cannot imagine why anyone would like him. they had to give him magical superhero powers to make him in any way relevant in the shadow of the already beloved cast members

>>719738041 (OP)
>mfw playing through the 3rd game right now

for some reason it's literally getting stuck at the loading door as soon as jill slam's into the door in the second opening cutscene

playing on the epsxe if that makes any difference

>>719738041 (OP)
The solution was not to turn it into a completely different IP that just so happened to have the same title.

Also, you guys like to say that the games weren't selling, but that just might have a little something to do with the fact that Capcom retardedly thought that making their mainline games exclusive to a dead console (Dreamcast) and a console that people only buy to play Nintendo games on (Gamecube) was a good idea.

>>719750196
there's a torrent of the PC version that exists which works perfectly fine, emulators are a gamble

>>719738041 (OP)
It should have died then.

>>719750236
For you. >>719741935

>>719750328
Sadly, Capcom would have also died.

>>719750416
all foul hags ingame

>>719750416
BASED!

>>719750435
>>719741935
They put a port of an over a year old Dreamcast game out in a very busy year for release. You mean to tell me that it got lost in the shuffle of Onimusha, Zone of the Enders, Jak and Daxter, Soul Reaver 2, Twisted Metal Black, Ico, Gran Turismo 3, Silent Hill 2, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Final Fantasy X? I'm shocked.

>>719748356
With a Jill sandwich to keep it going.

if the formula changes the series is not the same and shouldn't be called the same
also DEmakes are shit

>>719751137
Guess fixed camera REslop couldn't hang with the big boys anymore. Almost like it was a fad long past its prime.

>>719738543
better dead than killed and raped
now the only franchise they haven't killed and raped is..megaman i guess? or that ace whatever game i dont enjoy neither

>>719751548
Or maybe people were just excited for new PS2 games on their shiny new console, not reheated Dreamcast leftovers. I know, I was there. The main marketing point for CVX was the extra Wesker cutscenes.

>>719751548
>hang with the big boys
who?

>>719738041 (OP)
>this series would not have survived.
And? Why do you say that as if it's a bad thing? Why do zoomers want everything to be an MCU-style forever franchise? Why can't stories end?

>>719743359
>Outbreak sold less than fucking ORC
oh my god, my world...shattered

>>719751649
Wow, killing a corporation for a game sounds excessive.

>>719751548
That must be why REmake HD sold well enough in 2015 to cause a complete course-correct in the franchise. It's what killed action RE, so I guess by your own logic, action REslop couldn't hang with the old dogs. Almost like THAT was a fad long past its prime.

>>719749660
>Ashley ahead of Barry
Bitch what the fuck

>>719751548
Mind you, the PS2 port of RE4 skyrocketed that game into popularity. I wonder why?

>>719750534
and it would have been a good thing
>street fighter? ruined
>resident evil? ruined
>dino crisis? luckily dead
>darkstalker? half raped
>mvc? raped
>power stone? luckily dead
>dmc? killed and raped

>>719751738
I don't even know what kind of point you're trying to make.

>>719751687
there's no reason why the franchise should end
but theres also no reason why crapcum must make them older for no reason like MCU

>>719751834
>dmc? killed and raped
by a jeet, damn shame that was

>>719751870
Capcom is largely reliant on the series and came extremely close to losing everything.

>>719746413
4 is the tipping point. The horror is kept to a minimum and the action is maximized. By 5 the horror was taken out altogether. 4 shares more with 5 than it does with the classic games. That's undeniable

>>719751946
THIS!

>>719752091

9 looks like it's a step back in the right direction but it needs to be first or 3rd person, it's trying to please everyone.

I prefer 3rd because I'm not a pleb.

>>719750196
check your iso

>>719751571
Megaman was killed but not raped, interestingly enough

>>719751834
Funny thing, I believe a few American companies would buy their IPS if Capcom had closed.

>>719742701
>Resident Evil has the potential to be more than just a horror game in a terrifying mansion or secluded area.
Incorrect. Look at every Resident Evil game that sucks shit. They all have one thing in common. No spooky house. Resident Evil at it's core is exploring a spooky house. And those good spooky house games all turn to shit precisely when they leave the spooky house. See: RE7 when the boat section starts or RE8 after vampire mommy's house. RE0 is the blacksheep because it turns to shit when you enter the spooky house BUT the train can be considered a spooky house in and of itself

>>719752467
Which games suck shit?

>>719749660
>no Natalia
rigged

>>719752467
>RE0 is the blacksheep because it turns to shit when you enter the spooky house
wrong

>>719752361
sure, i can see it. shit sells on name alone for years

>>719752467
>RE0 is the blacksheep because it turns to shit when you enter the spooky house
nah fuck you

>>719740768
>>719741489
>>719741687
>>719741935
>>719742135
CV is absolute lazy trash. The setting was interesting, but the plot, the voice acting, the graphics, the sound effects, the bosses; they all sucked ass.

It copied and pasted zombie noises and menu sfx from RE2 unaltered. It's a boring slog that wasnt fun to play. The environments had no sense of intrigue like RE1, 2 and 3 had.

>>719749982
He's literally me.

>>719752691
I would argue 3 is shit. I know everyone loves it, but I think it's garbage. 4 and 0 are part time shit and everything from 5 to revelations 2 is utter shit before RE7 starts to get better then loses traction with 8.

I'd maybe add Revelations 1 to the part time shit list because the episodic nature is garbage and every single character is horrendously written BUT it takes place on a cruise that can be considered a spooky house, however, the constant interruptions where you play as Chris or those two retarded "comedic relief" characters is godawful

>>719752879
>>719752961
RE0 peaks at the train segment. Everything after that is garbage

>>719738041 (OP)
It would have survived as a niche.

>>719738041 (OP)
The first person entries just remind me of those random first person horror games that constantly pop up on Steam. Its dumb i realize but I cant shake the perception of them as being generic spooky games compared to the other RE games.

>>719738041 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOO WE CANT SPAM CURRENT DAY SHART TREND
>THIRD PERSON FORNITE TRASH SHOOTER

it would've been a better choice if the games stay the same

>>719753350
it's okay to be wrong

>>719753389
>as a niche.
A niche that sells millions like metroid. If something is popular it's probably garbage.

Like modern day RE, modern day RE is fucking garbage.

2 > 4 > 1 > C:VX > 3 > 0 > Survivor
I haven't played any of the others, should I?

>>719738041 (OP)
I think you may be right. I love 7 & 8 is great too but the early ones looking over the shoulder I just can't & the fixed camera like fuck off

>>719754008
The opinions of people on franchises older than they are should never be listened to.

>>719753940
no not really

>>719752014
https://www.projectumbrella.net/yasuhiro-setos-talking-evil-blog.html

>>We created a 3D model of Claire based on that design.

>>We really paid attention to detail, right down to how much midriff to have her show, and the size of her butt. Because the display system in Darkside Chronicles let's you see your partner, how characters look from behind is extremely important.

>>From that attention to detail was born a Claire, packed with a whole new kind of appeal. Watch the latest trailer, and I'm sure you'll understand what I mean.

We need Claire's large soft ass in the CVX remake, Capcom.
Return to your roots!!

>>719753389

I was surprised and very pleased to see it's getting a sequel.

>>719738041 (OP)
it had to be dumbed down for zoomer faggots

It's out.

>>719744506
they need to bring Eve back, her game is a success!

>>719754248
So why are boomers still playing it?

>>719754081
Retard, I'm older than the franchise and the first ones were good at the time but ultimately shit & time did not work in their favour, i.e they aged like meat left out in the sun

>>719754454
Miku's seen some shit

>>719754816
Nice LARP

>>719753389
>Punished Caroline

>>719746413
realtime inventory management is god tier decision in 5, sadly casual niggers dont even know about inventory reload

Strange because people hated 5 and 6 for being too action heavy, enjoyed remake 2 for having survival horror gameplay despite it being a watered down version of the original, and liked 7 and 8 for pretending to be survival horror games with depths instead of shitty on rails walking sims. It’s clear people like the survival horror gameplay the most. Maybe keeping the fixed camera would have killed the series because normies can’t get into it, but even OG fans acknowledge the main appeal is the survival horror gameplay. Resident evil 4 is the outlier because it was many people’s first resident evil and the very first action horror game so it seemed fresh.

>>719755060
DC2 and PE2 were action horror before RE4

>>719755060
The Revelation series would like a word.

>>719754459
Reminder that they actually modeled spats on her character that you can never see in game without the use of free cam

9 looks so boring

>>719738041 (OP)
Yeah, but RE4 was so good and so innovative that we didn't care that the formula was being abandoned.

>>719755504
What is that image, an iceberg?

>>719744506
>Resident Evil Code: Veronica & X = 4,369,490
>Resident Evil 3: Nemesis = 3,690,397

Nani?

>>719755659
Hobo Magneto is cool... sort of

>>719755060
people didn't like 5&6 for being non-casual (RE is casual franchise), they were ok with action in 4.

>>719755659
What would you have done?

They should reboot the series and make it an anthology

>>719755645
Makes sense. Figure about a million each for the DC, PS2, and HD re-releases of Code Veronica, give or take. It got a bunch of Japan only releases over the years that probably make up the rest.

>>719755621
It's from this iceberg chart

>>719756139
Wilds fucked up bad
RE9 might be good
SF6 is okish

>>719756139
Resident Evil is the strongest of the three however and is in a better shape now than a long time, maybe ever, at least from a public perception.

>>719756279
>RE9 might be good
yeah right it's obviously going to turn raccoon city ruins into silent hill and it'll be gay derivative slop only enjoyed by retards with shit taste

>>719756139
>>their future is to be eaten by Konami or Bandai Namco

Better to be in Capcom's hands then.

>>719756416
I did say might

>>719755659
Grace’s game even out yet, and people act as if everything we’ve seen of her, truly represents everything about her.

>>719738041 (OP)
Remake RE1 but it's based on the original concepts.

>>719756079
What kind of retarded iceberg is this? Quick turn? An iceberg is supposed to be like easter eggs that get more and more obscure, not basic fucking knowledge like mainline series

>>719756367
A male Alice?

>>719738041 (OP)
Who are you arguing against? Fucking everyone loves RE4.

The problem with Capcom is that they really don't know how to innovate. They will take a good concept and then run it into the ground. RE1 was a good stepping stone, and the sequels built up on it leading to REmake, the best game using fixed cameras. When it was time to reinvent the series, RE4 wasn't just a good stepping stone, it was a masterpiece. The problem now is, how to innovate from that? >People like the bigger focus on action in RE4, therefore let's make RE5 a coop action game.
This is how Capcom thinks. They think making a game bigger is how you make a sequel.
>RE5 didn't review as well, but it sold gangbuster, so let's make RE6 even biggerer, but let's add some ""horror"" for the older fans
And that's how you get shit RE6, just fucking bloat.
Capcom saw that they fucked up, so it was time to reinnovate again with 7. And now the cycle is about to end again with RE9. If the rumors are true about 9, we are about to get another RE6.

>>719756593
you want to see the big dick dont you

>>719757498
ignoring everything about re6. theres something about everything that looks worse quality than 4 and 5, i dont know why
and i dont mean story or whatever

>>719757498
>Outbreak sold over a million
>Cpacom expects zoomers to know and care about this character's child from a side game that they never played
lel

>>719738041 (OP)
>did extremely well under the old formula
>died when they switched it to over the shoulder action slop
>revived but as soulless youtube streamerbait
I would rather it have died as itself than twice lose its soul as something it shouldn't be.

>>719759165
People are going back to play Outbreak.

>>719759128
You're not wrong. It was one of the first things I noticed when I first booted up RE6. I guess that the game is so much bigger than 4 and 5, they downgraded the visuals to make it fit on the disc.

>>719759165
They mentioned her in RE7, which I thought was cute since it confirmed she survived, but now they are just "killing" her off for shock value as if anyone actually knows who she is. They are too scared to kill established characters, so they gotta kill spin-off ones.

talking about resident evil
whats the best version of 1? without counting Remake?
i'll drop that one on my side-channel

>>719760296
Yeah, now that people who did play it got hyped to see Alexa again, none of these people would've touched it if she wasn't there out of genuine love for the series, only because NEWEST THING decided to have her in it.

>>719760430
i would feel bad playing outbreak when i know 0 about it
pretty much the same as when i pirated it for ps2 and i only played 2 matches

>>719760430
It is wonderful idea, because demand from new fans may lead to a remake.

>>719760405
There is no actual remake there's just the original and a GameCube port that washed out all the colors and made the mansion look soulless

My cast for RE9!

>>719760881
why is everybody vaguely Asian except Chris

>>719760874
whatever you like it or not the gamecube one is a remake

>RE2 Leon first day on the job
>already carries a gun
Explain that atheists.

>>719760564
Game was fun especially being a DavidChad making stun prods
>>719760783
>Another remake
Stop. We already had REsistance