Thread 719748393

This is the only game with a 10/10 OST.

you will know our names is the only good ost. that title goes to sonic r

Is there such a thing as a good game with a bad soundtrack /v/?

>>719748393 (OP)
>nearly 100 songs
>still a total 10/10 ost
How did they do it? The other games couldn't manage.

And heropon riki is still the best track

>>719749087
NTA but 2 still had lots of bangers, only 3 was really lukewarm, only a few memorable songs if even that.

>>719748393 (OP)
While it is 10/10 I prefer 2's soundtrack over it

>>719748393 (OP)
>8+ hours of perfection

>>719749087
>>719749412
>>719749529
2 is simply an 11/10 OST and 3 is on par with 1 if not slightly better.
And yes, I have the Trinity Box OST.

>>719748393 (OP)
2 and 3 have better OSTs

>>719749696
I guess I wasn't really feeling 3's songs.

>>719749671
I give it an 8/10 but I also think Souls OSTs are middling at best and yet retards seem to love them. Same with God of War's music.

>>719748393 (OP)
For me it's Xenoblade, Chrono Trigger and Mega Man X6

>>719748718
Half-Life
Most Ultima games
Pokemon Red and Blue

>>719748393 (OP)
You got
You will know our Names
Mechanical Rhythm
Engage the Enemy
Zanza the Divine
Riki The Legendary Heropon

>>719748393 (OP)
Ace Combat franchise exists.

>>719748393 (OP)
is literally the game with least 10/10 tracks of the series, it goes like this

2>X>3>1

It still has an amazing OST tho.

>>719750032
Demons and Dark 1 had unique OSTs that are memorable to this day, the series got lost in its own sauce after that.
>>719750216
Ultima had Stones which was very good but overused.to the point of anyone playing through the games would get sick of it.

>>719750372
AC is good but the orchestra versions of the songs

>Daredevil Orchestra
shit makes you tear up.

>>719750389
>is literally the game with least 10/10 tracks of the series, it goes like this
That's the words of someone who only played with the Definitive Edition's OST

>>719750216
What’s wrong with the Red & Blue soundtrack?

>>719749970
3 has a lot of tracks that only play once and is generally more melancholic. 2 just has a different energy to a lot of it's pieces compared to 3 or even 1.

*blocks your path*

>>719750504
>only played with the Definitive Edition's OST
The Definitive Edition's OST is fine, some are better, some are worse.

>>719748393 (OP)
An game ost being good isn't about good songs played in isolation. The songs have to be well-placed and played during the appropriate times. JRPGs almost always fail at this by playing the same looping soundtrack in overworlds and battles you spend hours in. I envy people who don't get sick of that but I literally cannot listen to a looping song that much without starting to hate it, especially when the energy of the song doesn't match the situation (playing an epic orchestral rock song while fighting a crab or some shit).

>>719749696
>>719750389
2's soundtrack was tainted to me thanks to Rex's VA just not fitting for a anime style game,. Al Weaver is a good actor but for a game like XB2 especially one that makes its MC look younger by design and so I cannot engage with the soundtrack without being reminded of his performance.
And before anyone claims anything 2 was my first Xeno game so no nostalgia bias goes into my view.

>>719750774
Most are worse. Maybe two are better.

>>719750216
Red and Blue have amazing soundtracks. The fuck is wrong with you.

>>719748393 (OP)
oops you posted the wrong one
I'll fix that

>>719750798
A game*

>>719750441
>Demons and Dark 1 had unique OSTs that are memorable to this day
I have to agree. I can actually recall a lot of them compare to whatever Elden Ring has.
It's not that the music after 1 is bad but it's not memorable at all.

>>719749696
>3 is on par with 1 if not slightly better.
I disagree, I think the battle and cutscene themes are on point with 3 but it falters in the environmental music department because it fell for the atmospheric meme (except for Hiramatsu's tracks)

>>719750372
Lmao a majority of 7's OST is ass, and Daredevil is extremely overrated. Cope.

>>719749696
Holy shit taste. You can not actually think this. Satorl Marsh (night) alone pisses and shits all over anything out of 2

>>719748393 (OP)
All the Persona games

>>719750774
Anon, I played XB1 on Wii, 3DS and Switch, is the DE's OST better? absolutely, is it enough to get on the level of the other games? lol fucking no, I'm not saying that the game has a bad or mediocre OST, I'm saying that the other games have SO much better music that XB1 just lags behind.

>>719750813
>Playing Dub
Rex is shit, but if you're going to bitch about VA's don't even bring up dubcrap he is still shit in Japanese and he doesn't ruin the OST.

>>719750931
Sol Squadron is absolutely amazing tho.

>>719751102
Even if we pretend it's the best track in the series, that doesn't make the whole OST superior somehow.

>>719748393 (OP)
Nioh 2. Also, XBC2's ost is way better

>>719750925
>it fell for the atmospheric meme
Fair enough. Fits thematically though but that's a point of criticism for the whole game.

>>719751424
>is the DE's OST better? absolutely
Wrong
https://youtu.be/MLHmZ7FI1yA?si=GNKIpEowhIt2vTc-&t=23

https://youtu.be/NYtyWxE-ilw?si=ZDUfwHPI4An3F5hm&t=23

https://youtu.be/TA7pFI4pEv0?si=V8C4MCbA4LdfPOiP&t=124

https://youtu.be/jXs0qruX148?si=9lB-_xPvScHHNAth&t=124

https://youtu.be/xi0M9SIaLb4?si=wtOKIyWss0-8O0gG&t=132

https://youtu.be/GTCB79fDUOY?si=3f63d-V2QTif7iIm&t=132

This is genuinely and arguably a contender for the greatest JRPG field team of all time, how does Xenoblade's sound team consistently one-up themselves?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAgGdySmc58

>>719752023
>field team
field theme**
Fucking hell.

>>719751424
Counterpoint XB1's dub was actually good the whole way through, and Adam Howden was fantastic as Shulk. Also Fergus O'Donnell was a great adult Rex in X3:FR

>>719752103
I think Al Weaver was fine for Rex as long as he wasn't yelling. That's the issue, and it's a shame since the rest of the characters didn't do poorly in my opinion. In contrast I didn't like hearing FR Rex say the same after-battle quotes, but with completely different tone and inflection. It's not the same.

>>719750774
The only one I think is genuinely an upgrade is Agniratha night, which is not just an improvement but easily one of the best songs of the series, shame the every other track is either a sidegrade or just worse, sometimes offensively so.

>>719752023
The whole DLC OST was great. Torna was the same.

>>719752810
NTA I think I mostly agree that the OG songs mostly sound better. At least to me.
To be fair, Satorl Marsh Day DE version has a really nice bass to it, and I think Tephra Cave DE has some reverb that adds to the atmosphere.

>>719748393 (OP)
The vision music and how its implemented alone makes it a 9/10 OST

>>719748393 (OP)
Not even the best soundtrack of it's own series

>creates the best tracks

Hope he's composing for whatever game Monolith is doing next

>>719751487
Generic. If you said somethibg like Long Day or Magic Spear 1 then I'd agree, but the majority of the OST does truly leave a lot to be desired. That interview a while ago of the composer struggling to make the music really shows itself in 7's OST.

>>719753508
Nah, as much as I love Mitsuda, he's really lost his luster compared to the PS1/PS2 days.

Kenji Hiramatsu though composes the best tracks in the series, funny that nobody talks about him by name since he's behind almost all of the most iconic/popular field, cutscene and battle themes in the series from 1 through 3.

>>719753897
hiramatsu is GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7yNyhLOIa4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI6m0ZhoKSM

>>719753897
Hiramatsu is great but there's a reason Mitsuda was in charge of so much of the cutscene music

>>719754041
Kind of crazy to believe he was just some literally who that Nintendo scouted for Xenoblade, yeah.

>>719748393 (OP)
I beat this game many years ago and the final boss music still pops up in my head at least once a week.

>>719748718
Metroid Dread

>>719753897
Without Mitsuda there's no cohesion, no strong core or leitmotif. You need to listen to his work on 3 again. Like really listen.

>>719748393 (OP)
I beat 3 yesterday and am almost done with Future Redeemed, but man...the ending of 3 disappointed me. It was good, but I wanted Mio.

>>719754352
People only post the in your face tracks that get people "pumped up" or the "You Will Know Our-" type tracks. It's like they're unable to appreciate any other type of music lmao just reeks of "if it doesn't make me pretend I'm in a mosh pit in my room then it obviously sucks!". It's honestly retarded as hell. Makes you question their narrow taste in music

>>719754674
For me I was just annoyed that I went through all that work to unite the Colonies just for True Vacuum Decay to occur

>>719750216
>Half-Life

>>719754782
Same with rebuilding Colony 6

>>719748718
metroid II

>>719754674
I have problem with my audio on PC and I'm at chp 7, as soon I fix the issues I'll complete the game, it has been 90 Hours.

>>719753897
In my opinion, the tracks I like the most are by Mitsuda or Manami Kiyota. Stuff like the Spirit Crucible, or Refugee Camp etc. are examples of the latter.

>>719754352
>Without Mitsuda there's no cohesion, no strong core or leitmotif
Mitsuda's contributions to 2's and 3's soundtracks really pale in comparison to the other composers (Ace, Kenji Hiramatsu, Manami Kiyota, etc).

I'm not even trashing Mitsuda, Xenogears, and Chrono Cross are two of my favourite JRPG soundtracks ever, but he mainly shined as the soundtrack DIRECTOR of 2 and 3.

>>719754730
>narrow
Kenji Hiramatsu has the most diverse range and covers the most genres and styles of music of any Xenoblade composer.
>"...then it obviously sucks!"
Name a single post in this thread implying this.

>>719755242
>Mitsuda's contributions to 2's and 3's soundtracks really pale in comparison to the other composers (Ace, Kenji Hiramatsu, Manami Kiyota, etc).

You're not listening to his tracks.

>>719755242
Part of what makes 2's soundtrack stand out is the variety. The vocal tracks are Mitsuda, and that one opera track is pretty good. Anything that has the main leitmotifs in it are composed by Mitsuda as well, if some not totally, at least in-part, and that is also something that makes the soundtrack stand out.

I don't understand why people elevate Mitsuda's Xenoblade contributions, it pales in comparison to his earlier stuff from decades ago and it's not nearly as memorable as the other Xenoblade composers' stuff; It's telling when Mitsuda's best Xenoblade songs are co-composed with another composer.
Fucking hell, Mitsuda's protege/apprentice, Mariam Abounnasr composed her first track for the entire Xenoblade series and it's better than any of Mitsuda's contributions to the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3zs3DB6hmM

>>719755649
I am. I listen to the Xenoblade OSTs almost every week.
Barring the vocal tracks/credits themes, find me a Mitsuda track from Xenoblade 1 or 2 that's anywhere near his best input from Chrono Trigger, Xenogears or Chrono Cross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx-LwAkgJzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40BZyMdDG4s

>>719755878
>from Xenoblade 1 or 2
2 or 3***
Brain fart

Even Xenosaga 1, which I consider one of Mitsuda's more forgettable soundtracks, has more memorable tracks than his contributions to Xenoblade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlmQiHClfko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfrQEyS9A4

>>719755878
Black mountains would be better if it had any sort of buildup like the World Tree did. That's opinion.

>>719748393 (OP)
I beg to differ.

>>719748393 (OP)
X and 2's OSTs were better, and 3 had better battle themes.

>>719755242
>Mitsuda's contributions to 2's and 3's soundtracks really pale in comparison to the other composers (Ace, Kenji Hiramatsu, Manami Kiyota, etc).

If anything this is a compliment. He's not attempting to be showy or flashy with his music like Hiramatsu or ACE but to serve the goal of enhancing the experience by setting the mood and supporting the story.

They're not made to be "bangers" or "chart toppers" or whatever. That's not the point.

>>719756647
Except for that one overused battle theme that's in every single side-quest. Legit rolled my eyes every time I heard the start of it "DUN DUN DUN".

let's settle this you retarded faggots
>most popular Mitsuda xenoblade 3 track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT10fW6WlMk

>most popular Hiramatsu xenoblade 3 track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI6m0ZhoKSM

>most popular ACE xenoblade 3 track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Y-37ybYiM

>most popular manami kiyota xenoblade 3 track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvjF2ULNnf8

who's the better composer

>Xeno Music thread
>Only one person brought up the best battle theme
>Didn't even link it
Mechanical Rhythm is sick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W0VyaoZzY

>>719755878
>Fucking hell, Mitsuda's protege/apprentice, Mariam Abounnasr composed her first track for the entire Xenoblade series and it's better than any of Mitsuda's contributions to the series.

Yeah i like Mariam's track too but it's predictable and eye-rolling that you post a track so in-your-face with blaring guitar solos lol literally proving my point about how you obviously can't appreciate music unless it's instantly gratifying and the opposite of subtle.

I like that tradk but I couldn't give a fuck about guitar solos or big riffs. Are you a metalhead by any chance?

>>719749970
The problem with 3's OST is that, while excellent while listened to outside of the game, the reality is that 99% of tracks in-game inevitably get interrupted by either IRIS Network or Chain Attack over and over again, and chances are you'll never even get to hear areas' night themes due to the dumb decision of making fast-travelling reset the clock BACK TO THE START

>>719756908
>lol literally proving my point about how you obviously can't appreciate music unless it's instantly gratifying and the opposite of subtle.
You are not remotely as interesting as you think you are and your post only exists to suck yourself off.

>>719756979
Concession accepted. Found you out.

>>719756891
I don't know if its the best, but I love the Moebius theme.

>>719756668
Funnily enough Manami Kiyota and Kenji Hiramatsu have better "moody" tracks than Mitsuda's contributions to Xenoblade.

I know Mitsuda isn't a flashy composer. My fucking favourite soundtracks of all time are Xenogears and Chrono Cross respectively.
Mitsuda's contributions to Xenoblade are largely uninteresting even compared to his previous stuff barring his vocal tracks, but Mitsuda's always been the greatest vocal track/credits score composer in JRPGs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM7BROS2sxM

>>719756976
You could always set it so it's 8 at night when you fast travel.

>>719756164
>Even Xenosaga 1, which I consider one of Mitsuda's more forgettable soundtracks, has more memorable tracks than his contributions to Xenoblade.

Mate what lmao. What >>719756908
Said.

Also there's many examples from Mitsuda that are better than that track. You're fucking high.
https://youtu.be/fbTf3moH72s?si=MLrLfKPCPQlkVCS-

Ridge Racer Type 4

>>719757273
Meant to reply to this
>Fucking hell, Mitsuda's protege/apprentice, Mariam Abounnasr composed her first track for the entire Xenoblade series and it's better than any of Mitsuda's contributions to the series.

Xenoblade X has my favourite game OST

>>719757040
Found what out, exactly?
You're making extremely random assumptions about me to raise your ego for whatever reason
You really don't want to get into an argument about music with me.

>>719757241
>but Mitsuda's always been the greatest vocal track/credits score composer in JRPGs.

Agreed but his best vocal tracks have been ones with Joanne Hogg

>>719749970
I just don't like the flute thing they had going on.

>>719757373
>You really don't want to get into an argument about music with me.
post three non-vidya songs you like

>>719748393 (OP)
Play more games. I literally can't remember a single track from this game and the soundtrack was the only part of it that wasn't shit.

>>719748393 (OP)
Move aside

>>719757925
all 3 prime games have better OSTs

>>719757925
Only because red brinstar carries

>>719748393 (OP)
Any game Shimomura works on instantly has a 10/10 soundtrack, even if she only provides a few

>>719757906
>jazzslop and obligatory classical piece
wow you sure showed me

>>719758354
>sure showed me
Showed you what? You literally asked for it.

>>719756891
Moebius is so GOATed

>>719757452
Because it didn't fucking fit. The setting has no definable aesthetic and the flutes are jarring because of how flutes are typically used in cohesion with certain types of settings, for the sound they make and where they came from.

>>719758341
Shimomura is a cheat code, she has been doing history in the industry since she was 19 years old, she's on a whole another tier.

>>719756901
>Mechanical Rhythm
BASED

>>719756901
This is definitely the better battle theme but I will say I've come to appreciate the Bionis' battle theme a lot these days too

>>719751120
Lmao

>>719756901
>best battle Theme
You mean this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1weNnjzaXbY&list=RD1weNnjzaXbY&start_radio=1

Did the yearly playthrough of the series again, lads.

>>719759052
lol, I wouldn't be able, each game takes me like 90 fucking hours, I would replay 1 game yearly (probably 2) but not the whole series.

I'm looking forward to playing a Monolith Soft game that doesn't look like it has vaseline smeared across it. Been playing Switch 2 games and went back to Future Redeemed and fuck me, the resolution looks disgusting. Like 500p or something.

Also hope the next game's world feels a bit less static. Jumped into a massive dandelion in future redeemed and it doesn't move. Everything in the world is like a block and it all feels like one big rock.

Little details like jumping into a big flower and it sways and the petals break off it or something please. Just give the world a bit more life with some flourishes.

>>719759052
I've been hooked continuously on the series since February. I'm gonna do another XC2 run but I still have to finish Future Redeemed. I also have to think about which Blades I'm going to use on which characters. I'm thinking Morag is gonna hang out with Newt next go round and Zeke is gonna be best friends with Gorg. Nia can get Crossette. And Rex...I don't know. Perun?

>>719759283
>I'm looking forward to playing a Monolith Soft game that doesn't look like it has vaseline smeared across it
SAME HOLY SHIT
I'm so fucking tired of TAA, the next Monolith Soft title is gonna look amazing

>>719752023
The Trinity Box set is the only time I have ever bothered buying a gaming OST because the soundtrack is without flaw

Switch 2 60fps patch for the trilogy + X soon.

>>719759283
>vaseline smeared across it.
I have never used vaseline nor do I know what it looks like so I sincerely wish people would stop using this term because it's not relatable. Say something else.

>>719760223
The game looks blurry and muddy as hell

>>719748718
every from soft game past dark souls 2

>>719759956
Direct next week apparently and there is the copium of Xenoblade 2 Switch 2 because of that monolith tweet