Thread 719753427

>>719753427 (OP)
I was told to not buy and play Pikmin 4, but rather pirate and play Pikmin 2.

>>719754013
You should definitely play 1 and 2 first if you haven’t already.

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>>719754013
Emulate the GameCube versions of 1 and 2 on Dolphin. After that try out some 2 ROM hacks.

That's about it really. 3 and 4 are shit, just pretend they don't exist.

>>719754365
Hey, 3 is worth playing, at least the challenge and multiplayer modes.

It's fucking criminal that this didn't get a Switch 2 upgrade, despite being one of the last first party Switch 1 games.

Still praying for one, which some higher difficulty options. Game was really fun but way too easy.

>>719753427 (OP)
I enjoyed 4, but it does tend to get too easy by the end. At least the Dandori trials are fun

>>719754505
>difficulty options
yeah imagine the pr blurb
>PLAY PIKMIN 4 IN THIS NEW ULTRA-SPICY DIFFICULTY CHALLENGE
>ENEMIES NOW RESPAWN. CAN YOU HANDLE THAT DIFFICULTY, KID?

>>719754132
I got bored of Pikmin 1, will I enjoy 2? I heard they added dungeon crawl aspects and I think that would turn it around. Surface level take, I think Pikmin seems like a very very casual RTS game. I've already played pretty tough RTS games before, and my favorite is probably Starcraft 2 or Warcraft 3, they added RPG/Dungeon crawl elements and that made a world of difference.

>>719754758
Yeah most likely you will enjoy 2 more. 1 is more of an arcade time attack game with a sprinkle of strategy. 2 feels more like a proper game, it's certainly more longer with lots of caves (dungeons) to tackle, which ups the playtime and variety. Combat is also much more emphasized, and the challenge becomes trying to keep your squad alive as opposed to fighting against the timer, since there is unlimited time to do shit unlike 1 where it was strictly 30 days (Every day is 15 minutes by the way).

>>719754758
If you got bored of 1 you'll get bored of 2. 1 is much shorter.

>>719754980
It's not about length, it's about complexity, decision making, and general challenge.

That and enforced lock on are the only issues with the game
>>719754365
1 is shit. People pretend it’s hard to shit on 3 and 4, but the deadline is so comically generous

>>719754013
4 is really good, actually get it so we can get Pikmin 5.

Tfw I'm a true pikfag that enjoyed all of them. Can't wait for 5

>>719756424
Nah fuck off cunt, 4 is absolute dogshit. Stop telling people to buy bad games

>>719753427 (OP)
I hated this, levels felt so lifeless after you cleared them out. Caves are also boring, there is no sense of urgency, easy battles and some basic navigation and puzzle solving. Pikmin 3 was better.

>>719757309
Kys for shit taste
>>719757326
3’s campaign barely exists. You blink and you finish it, with 100 juice bottles. The challenges save that game, and they are great, to be fair

what's with the weird surge of anti pikmin 4 threads lately, /v/ liked it on release

>>719757723
If you think 4 was really good then I don't know what to tell you. It's the worst pikmin game by far

>>719758137
>I don’t know what to tell you
You don’t know much of anything

>>719754758
1 is an RTS collectathon.
2 is more like Diablo dungeon crawl collectathon.
It
>>719756737
Even Hey! Pikmin?

>>719753427 (OP)
>retcons your lore for no reason

>>719758241
I know for a fact that you have low standards but that's nothing out of the ordinary for a tendie

>>719757326
It fulfills the most basic need of having a new Pikmin game to play, I guess. But I really felt how dumbed down the game was, splitting up from Oatchi just makes the game slower unless you've played through the game enough times to know which segments are faster to split up the captains/ignore the 3 type recommendation. Otherwise you just keep running into roadblocks that demand a specific Pikmin, or demand Oatchi to be with you.

>>719758368
>tendie
Aw, it’s retarded!

>>719758418
>Thinks xhe's not retarded
>Thinks shitmin 4 is really good
kys you're self idoit

>>719758346
That in particular rubbed me the wrong way.
Is Pikmin 4 a total retcon or what?

>>719754013
play the rom hacks bro, 251 is some dank shit

>>719758550
No one knows desu
>Pikmin 1 is happening all over again but it's Pikmin 4 (The SS Dolphin is present so it has to be during the first game)
>Olimar knew about Louie all along even though he was a new employee sent to do a Pikpik Carrot shipment while Olimar was at the planet
>which he didn't escape from in this timeline, so why Louie came to the planet is unkknown
>in fact, all of Pikmin 2 is treated as a bad dream, but Louie has knowledge of this timeline somehow
>Pikmin 3's cast is here, technically, they're just bootleg versions of the 3 captains, with all of the knowledge of the original ones somehow
It's easier to just think of Pikmin 4 as its own thing

>You dont get the c-stick commanding from 1 and 2 until post game where its useless
>All the best songs are specific caves and olimar's adventure
>You never refight Groovy Long Legs but instead brand new one off reskins of existing enemies
>No control or difficulty options at all
>No local co-op

I mean theres other problems but what the fuck

>>719753427 (OP)
>can't tell if its shitty difficulty design or Nintendo trying to send a convoluted message about the dangers of overfarming/killing nature because stages seem so purposefully lifeless once you've killed everything

>>719759374
Nintendo probably actually thought that it was a bad thing that the game got harder if you took longer to beat the game.
No Beady Long Legs spawning near the primary base on Day 30+ anymore.

>>719758280
Haven't played that one or the mobile game but I'm not sure I can compare them to the mainline games

>>719753427 (OP)
>Create a unique RTS game
>Strip out all the difficulty because wahhh people might not want to see their Pikmin die :(
>Encourage rewinding when a single Pikmin dies
>Go from neat post-apocalyptic world where you can see nature has started to reclaim mankind's creations to "lol here's a house that looks like it was cleaned 5 minutes ago"

>>719757770
because its a baby ez game. no thrill or danger when the dog makes it so theres 0 challenge and theres non stop item and a rewind function as well. also the auto aim took away the satisfaction of landing a throw yourself. its a decent game if they let you play without the hand holdy bullshit

>>719753427 (OP)
Played this as my first Pikmin game and it turned me off from the series forever

>>719759759
Just play 1 and 2

>>719754013
4 is fantastic, but it still has drawbacks. Its worth it to play all four. Just don’t play Hey! pikmin, its the only actually shit Pikmin game.

>>719754505
>It's fucking criminal that this didn't get a Switch 2 upgrade
It will. Instead of using Wii U ports to pad out the Switch 2's lifecycle they're going to use Switch 2 Editions. They're quick and easy to make, fill out the catalog and retards will double dip even if they bought the original.

>>719754320
Helloooooooo reddit!!

The time limit is just obnoxious tedium

>>719759931
>Pikmin 4 Switch 2 Edition + Olimar's Odyssey
might be good

>>719760587
it requires strategic planning to fully optimize a run and is the whole point of the game but i guess using your brain and enjoying the satisfaction of min maxing is too much to ask for most casuals

>>719760784
>Olimar's Odyssey
What purpose would that serve that isn't already fulfilled by Olimar's Shipwreck Tale? Should be a Louie campaign.

>>719761654
Agreed. A louie campaign makes more sense and frankly would be more kino.

>>719758968
I am thoroughly convinced it's a reboot for the IP and some sort of parallel universe situation. I'm not crazy about that because I rather like the original storyline.

I personally believed from the outset that it's a separate timeline that follows the "bad end" from Pikmin 1, which seems consistent to some degree, though I've not finished Pikmin 4 yet. Regardless, I guess it doesn't matter because Nintendo games don't take this stuff seriously with any consideration for lore enjoyers.

>>719759597
The casualization of Pikmin is indeed a downside but we can enjoy the original two still.

>>719753427 (OP)

Single weirdest decision in this game and might be its biggest flaw

That and Ice Pikmin could maybe afford to take like 25% longer to freeze an enemy

>>719753427 (OP)
>>719758968
all of the post-2 human characters look so bad