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Anonymous No.719762709 >>719762824 >>719762885 >>719762924 >>719763535 >>719764382 >>719764805 >>719765173 >>719765245 >>719765331 >>719765848 >>719767083 >>719768209 >>719768346 >>719771272 >>719772045 >>719772484 >>719772782 >>719772948 >>719773274 >>719774042 >>719774559 >>719774704 >>719774802 >>719775338 >>719776150 >>719780140
>get pic related
>lose all interest in modern gaming and having a blast playing through all the classics
Anonymous No.719762770
alright
Anonymous No.719762824
>>719762709 (OP)
Anonymous No.719762885
>>719762709 (OP)
Oh hey, i remember this thread from the last 20 times you made it
Anonymous No.719762916 >>719767948 >>719773274 >>719774848
Why did the MiSTer shit and flop?
Anonymous No.719762924
>>719762709 (OP)
I have emulators for free. Old games are fun. Not all, but most are pretty good
Anonymous No.719763535
>>719762709 (OP)
Based
Anonymous No.719764382 >>719777761
>>719762709 (OP)
That's nice and dandy, but it's not as soul as ZSNES.
I have nostalgia for the way it played music at a wrong pitch for quite a while.
Anonymous No.719764805 >>719764901 >>719765783 >>719766094 >>719766294 >>719772068 >>719772718
>>719762709 (OP)
I don't get it, what does it do that you can't on PC?
Anonymous No.719764901 >>719765005 >>719765324 >>719765910 >>719773823 >>719775295
>>719764805
Delayless video and audio.
On PC you have a hard cap of 16ms on video, and 40ms give or take in audio if you adjust the emulator well.
Everything else a PC can do, and the PC can do a few more things like fast forward, debug tools, running more systems and all that.
Anonymous No.719765005 >>719766513
>>719764901
>hard cap of 16ms on video
u wut m8? You think every display ever is just 60hz? You think retro consoles could push 60+ fps or something?
Anonymous No.719765173 >>719765973
>>719762709 (OP)
i felt like i was getting "too old for videogames" in the late 00s because software emulation just kept feeling shittier and shittier
it's mostly windows at fault for that though

mister felt correct and got me back in to my old games habit, but early gpu accelerated pc gaming is still the peak
Anonymous No.719765245
>>719762709 (OP)
i could totally see the Mister being a viable option for someone that doesn't already have a much cheaper solution that has solved their problem. I unfortunately can't recommend something so esoteric, expensive, and dependent on certain circumstances
Anonymous No.719765324 >>719765524 >>719765678 >>719765940 >>719765973 >>719768015
>>719764901
and how much does this device cost?
I'm mostly looking at ps1 games and duckstation has been pretty good
Anonymous No.719765331
>>719762709 (OP)
i just play on my modded consoles or pc if i want to replay something with retro achievements
Anonymous No.719765524 >>719766027
>>719765324
I think was like $500.
And PS1 specifically has 16ms of input lag in anything, including the real hardware because it's a double buffered system.
Anonymous No.719765678
>>719765324
off brand (still works the same, just less reputable company) is about $120 if you want circuit boards just out flapping in the breeze, there's enclosure ones with lots of input/output for about $200 but preorders and waitlists, if you're going "high end" with your enclosure and doing like multisystem or some other gigantic daughterboard you could be paying $500 if you go with the "official" mister spec board
Anonymous No.719765783 >>719765961
>>719764805
nothing, its just an emulator implemented in "hardware" (its still just configuring the gates via software) that morons think is somehow more accurate than normal emulators because they had to spend a few hundred dollars on it
Anonymous No.719765848 >>719766000
>>719762709 (OP)
It was established a few months ago, right here on /v/, that the people who own those things don't buy them to play video games.
By their own admission, they just wanted "a cool dedicated box" in their living room, as a sort of status symbol.
Anonymous No.719765910
>>719764901
lol
Anonymous No.719765940
>>719765324
I picked one up for $160. They're not that expensive anymore.
Anonymous No.719765961
>>719765783
that's mostly right, but for example neogeo was more accurate (the core author and the software emulator devs worked together to improve the software emulator with the discoveries made during the core production)
Anonymous No.719765973 >>719766073 >>719766183 >>719771951
>>719765173
Learn what retroarch and groovymame are. They've been around for over a decade.
>>719765324
Hundreds. They're a ripoff. They don't even emulate much past the 4th gen.
Anonymous No.719766000
>>719765848
>It was established a few months ago, right here on /v/
sound like a bunch of faggots sniffing their own farts
Anonymous No.719766027
>>719765524
>And PS1 specifically has 16ms of input lag in anything,
Not on retroarch with run ahead.
Anonymous No.719766073
>>719765973
you're telling someone to get into retroarch if they think emulation has been getting shitty? lol, retroarch is a blight
Anonymous No.719766094
>>719764805
Nothing.

They claim to be more accurate and have less input lag. But neither of those are true.
Anonymous No.719766183 >>719766231
>>719765973
don't just assume that i don't know what i'm doing when you speak to me

groovymame and mister is a cool combination, you can establish a sub-frame network connection from a computer to a mister to output with mister's analog signals and launch and control titles through groovymame using your mister's video setup and controllers
Anonymous No.719766231
>>719766183
sub-frame delay*
not like a network's definition of a frame
Anonymous No.719766294 >>719766562 >>719766595 >>719766678
>>719764805
easy pain free crt output, and that's about it. if anybody tries to tell you that crt emudriver isn't a pain in the ass to use, they're lying.
Anonymous No.719766513 >>719773253
>>719765005
PC and 3D consoles (except for the nintendo DS) use a double buffer (or triple or.. but minimum double), where the program draw to a bitmap, while sending the last frame to the screen, so you don't have flicker of shit being drawn and all.
Old consoles would generate the picture while sending it to the tv at the same time, having one frame less of input lag in the process.
I think it MIGHT be possible to fuck around with DirectDraw or something and use only one frame you complete "instantly", or at least on a scanline basis to draw and send the picture to the screen at the same time.
I can see emulators like snes, nes etc that already do the render line by line being able to pull this bullshit off.
Anonymous No.719766562 >>719766657 >>719766743
>>719766294
>install crt emu driver
>reboot
>Enable EDID
>CRT now works

Woah, difficult.
Anonymous No.719766568
Why do zoomers seethe when they remember nice things exist?
Why do they want everyone to have it as bad as them?
Anonymous No.719766595
>>719766294
I use a hdmi to composite box that is DECENT, not perfect, not great, DECENT.
720p only (but you can use 224x3 integer scaling on it), 480i only, slight flicker you need to use some horizontal and vertical blurs to remove, final destination.
I wish someone just did a box that can do 240p, it's probably easy for FPGA bullshit.
Anonymous No.719766648
>pisster
just use a pi
their only useful product is this thing
Anonymous No.719766657
>>719766562
>Windows update happens
>configuration all fucked up
>have to reset the EDID profiles so 240p works again
Don't forget you need your CRT right next to your PC. That works if you're in a bedroom all day, but not when you actually have other rooms.
Anonymous No.719766678
>>719766294
Retroarch and groovymame have switchres built in, so you don't even have to fuck about with resolutions/refresh rates, as it chooses the correct mode for each system
Anonymous No.719766743
>>719766562
NTA, but I used to use CRTemudriver, and it was fucking annoying. Got weird artifacting on my CRT especially when scrolling, always had the Test Signing warning on my PC, having two GPUs would make some random bullshit happen with applications, and resolution switching like with Retroarch's switchres was always subpar.
Anonymous No.719767083 >>719767173 >>719767213 >>719774637 >>719774994
>>719762709 (OP)
Liars always say "having a blast." Why is that?
Anonymous No.719767164
Anonymous No.719767173
>>719767083
have you considered the "having a blast" thing is falseflagging
Anonymous No.719767213
>>719767083
It's an old term that mostly marketing people use nowadays.
There's the whole pump shit too.
"ARE YOU PUMPED FOR THE NEW UBISLOP TOWER CLIMBIN?!?"
The only one that pumps like that dobson.
Anonymous No.719767756
MiSTer is a niche project that will only appeal to a small group, but as someone in that small group I love it. I've used it for thousands of hours since getting it two years ago.
Anonymous No.719767948 >>719768148 >>719768317 >>719769232
>>719762916
FPGA too small to simulate a PS2 (and many other systems for that matter). They take shortcuts and end up with the same glitches that (shitty) PC emulators have. Good PC emulators are more accurate and can run at full speed on a computer that costs the same as one of those pieces of shit.
Anonymous No.719768015 >>719772365
>>719765324
>ps1 games
Just get a PS TV or a Vita. The Adrenaline PSP emulator can run PS1 eboots.
Anonymous No.719768148 >>719768207
>>719767948
>FPGA too small to simulate a PS2 (and many other systems for that matter).
What systems are you expecting? There's no FPGA implementation of Dreamcast and above currently.
Anonymous No.719768149
I've played them all, zoomer.
Anonymous No.719768207 >>719768256 >>719768307
>>719768148
>What systems are you expecting
A fucking PS2. I don't care about any other system, PS2 emulation is dogshit right now so that's the only one that matters.
Anonymous No.719768209 >>719772883
>>719762709 (OP)
I could literally buy most of the consoles the mister crappily plays and spend less than a troonster.
Anonymous No.719768250
im just gonna wait for the recalbox 2
Anonymous No.719768256
>>719768207
>A fucking PS2. I don't care about any other system
What a philistine.
Anonymous No.719768307
>>719768207
>PS2 emulation is dogshit right now
that's the fun thing about ps2, the base system was shit too
Anonymous No.719768317 >>719773410
>>719767948
just buy a ps2 and soft mod it, it's not that difficult
Anonymous No.719768346
>>719762709 (OP)
Anonymous No.719769232 >>719773410
>>719767948
Get an original ps2 with a chink hard drive adaptor and you can play every game
Anonymous No.719769474
>has a cool fgpa to try experimenting on stuff
>games instead
lol what a waste
Anonymous No.719771272
>>719762709 (OP)
stop posting this
Anonymous No.719771951
>>719765973
MiSTer Saturn and N64 cores are literally more accurate than the best software cores and run at full speed, retard
Anonymous No.719772045
>>719762709 (OP)
controversial opinion, I would have probably quit gaming by now if it stayed in the bit era.
Anonymous No.719772068 >>719773050
>>719764805
MiSTer is meant as an alternative to original hardware or original hardware + everdrives + RGB mods. In that sense, it's a total no-brainer. It's identical to original hardware in accuracy and latency, but far cheaper and with more features and enhancements.

Even compared to emulation, it's a great alternative if you want a portable and powerful box that doesn't compromise on performance, latency, or accuracy. Or if you want pain-free, flawless usage with CRTs or original hardware OEM controllers.

I don't know why it makes poorfags seethe so hard
Anonymous No.719772365 >>719772515
>>719768015
I still find it tragic anons here don't even have a PS2 lying around. Sometimes I take millennial privilege for granted when it comes to retroshit.
Anonymous No.719772484 >>719772721
>>719762709 (OP)
Is it just that it costs money? Because I've got all the same emulators, and I can't be bothered to play them. And I especially can't distract myself from new releases that catch my eye.
Anonymous No.719772515
>>719772365
PS2 is one of the few consoles I keep hooked up 24/7/365.
Anonymous No.719772718
>>719764805
If you have to ask, it isn't for you, and that's ok.
Anonymous No.719772721
>>719772484
Zoomer muttgolem post
Anonymous No.719772782 >>719772972 >>719772976
>>719762709 (OP)
What is it? Looks like it could be just another gussied up raspberry pi.
Anonymous No.719772883
>>719768209
fuck off, no you couldn't liar
Anonymous No.719772937
>buckbreaks /v/
I accept your concession in advance.
Anonymous No.719772948 >>719773082
>>719762709 (OP)
I already own a laptop so I don't see the point in spending hundreds of dollars on this.
Anonymous No.719772972
>>719772782
MiSTer is open source free software that runs on the DE10-Nano by Terasic (or clones). Most setups have additional boards, also open source, that add various features like 240p/480i analog video output, more USB ports and RAM for larger cores.
Anonymous No.719772976
>>719772782
And most would not even notice the difference when playing it.
Anonymous No.719772992
nigger
Anonymous No.719773050
>>719772068
the marketing guys arent even trying to blend in anymore
Anonymous No.719773082 >>719773141
>>719772948
It's really only for turbo autists (like me).
Anonymous No.719773141
>>719773082
I guess I can respect the hustle. Nothing wrong with seeking the most efficient and accurate way to experience media. Audiophiles are a similar brand of autist, and if you have the money, I guess godspeed.
Anonymous No.719773253
>>719766513
just disable vsync. you might need to fuck around a bit to get proper fullscreen in modern windows to get proper fullscreen mode for this to work properly
Anonymous No.719773274
>>719762709 (OP)
Yeah man, same.
>live with other people so I don’t want big setup
>have mister in the livingroom
>post up after everyones gone to sleep and play
Lately I’ve been playing through the dragon quest games (playing 4 right now) but for the longest time I was just sampling new arcade cores. I got pretty good at Bomb Jack, Road Blaster, Tapper. Games I would have otherwise totally overlooked.
>>719762916
>why did non commercial open source project that’s small community gradually grows every year flop.
don’t be like this.
Anonymous No.719773287
is that a gamecube?
Anonymous No.719773410 >>719773476 >>719773752
>>719769232
>>719768317
>spend $300 on ShiTsTer wonder box
>"well actually you can't play 25-year old games on it, you need to buy another thing"
Anonymous No.719773456 >>719773752 >>719773761 >>719773826
What games are you playing?
Anonymous No.719773476
>>719773410
Imagine not already having a Wii and PS2 in 2025.
Anonymous No.719773752 >>719774120
>>719773410
I really like this picture. May I save it, friend?
>>719773456
Tony Hawk 2, Virtual Hydlide, Star Wars arcade 32x
Anonymous No.719773761
>>719773456
play?
Anonymous No.719773823 >>719773868 >>719774002
>>719764901
You do realise that old console have a shit ton of delay built-in right?
You can even set up Retroarch with run-ahead to get even LESS input delay than an actual console.
Your raspberry pi wannabe toy is useless.
Anonymous No.719773826
>>719773456
I just played soul blazer. Pretty simple but fun arpg.
Anonymous No.719773868 >>719773892
>>719773823
Source: I made it up
Anonymous No.719773892 >>719774117
>>719773868
Stupid fucking Nigger

https://wiki.batocera.org/latency_reduction_and_performance
Anonymous No.719774002 >>719774084
>>719773823
>muh run-ahead
Retard alert.

Run-ahead is only for inherently laggy games, it does absolutely nothing to help a laggy setup. Also it massively increases lag variance (which is more important) for a decrease in raw latency (which is less important), so it's usually not even worth it.

MiSTer has identical lag to real hardware played on a real CRT. It's the real deal, not some tranny cope like run-ahead
Anonymous No.719774042
>>719762709 (OP)
>get pic related
From where? Anytime I look this thing up it's sold out.
Anonymous No.719774084 >>719774152 >>719774176 >>719774310
>>719774002
>for inherently laggy games
Which is most of them.
You never played on a real console. These things were not perfect machine with zero input delay you retard.
Run-ahead will literally get rid of all of native lag and handle input even better than a real console.
Your shitty toy is literally not even powerful enough to run this simple feature because it cannot handle a 2nd instance running lol
Anonymous No.719774117 >>719774181
>>719773892
>nes has 16ms(1 frame) of input delay on a crt
wow, that link you shared totally didn’t back up what you said at all. And you are even cooler because when you had to back up what you said you called me a nigger! faggot lmao
Anonymous No.719774120 >>719774195
>>719773752
>Virtual Hydlide
Anonymous No.719774152 >>719774181
>>719774084
Run-ahead is dogshit retard stop shilling this trash in every thread.
Anonymous No.719774176
>>719774084
Run-ahead is not necessary with FPGA.
Anonymous No.719774181 >>719774245 >>719774247 >>719774408
>>719774117
Cope brainlet shill.

>>719774152
Shill what? retroarch is free, your shitty raspberry pi wannabe toy is not.
You are the jew faggot trying to sell his shitty product here
Anonymous No.719774195
>>719774120
>I play retro for a polished experience
Yeah you’re right, instead of trying out different games of varying quality, I should just play link to the past for the tenth time.
Anonymous No.719774245 >>719774285
>>719774181
Retroarch and MiSTer are both free software.
Anonymous No.719774247 >>719774309
>>719774181
>feature set to auto that doesn’t do anything
I am destroyed. Your intelligence.. is too strong! You are such a moron its amazing.
Anonymous No.719774285 >>719774325
>>719774245
>MiSTer
>free
Ok, give me a link where I can order one for free then, I'll wait :)
Anonymous No.719774309 >>719774393
>>719774247
>shill so desperate he's breaking down and trying to attack the example screenshot now
Kek you're so pathetic.
At least have some decency and learn how to handle a lost argument.
Anonymous No.719774310 >>719774364 >>719774885
>>719774084
>Which is most of them.
No, it's not, you fucking retard. Most NES, SNES, Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, etc. games have 2-3 frames of lag. And you can only use run-ahead for input lag frames - 1 anyways.

>Run-ahead will literally get rid of all of native lag and handle input even better than a real console.
No, it doesn't. The real-world button to pixel input lag improvement is a half frame less than expected, there is uneven frame-pacing (timing issues/inaccuracy), input lag VARIANCE increases significantly (which is more important than raw input lag), and it does absolutely nothing to fix setup lag, display lag, controller lag, or V-Sync lag (RetroArch also can't do 60Hz low-lag with no screen-tearing like MiSTer can, you need high refresh-rate monitor)

Pretty much the only cases it is worth it is games with 5+ frames of input lag, where you can enable run-ahead with no significant impact on performance, and where reaction times are more important than timing consistentcy (very few games)

You are just a dumbass who is sipping the kool-aid and done zero real world tests. I've done thousands of tests with 240fps slow-mo camera, so just shut the fuck up about things you don't understand
Anonymous No.719774325 >>719774392
>>719774285
All software requires hardware to run. The hardware MiSTer was made for has been cloned by multiple people/companies.
Anonymous No.719774364 >>719774528
>>719774310
>No, it's not, you fucking retard.
>Most NES, SNES, Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, etc. games have 2-3 frames of lag.

You literally BTFO yourself.
Good job retard.

Not even worth reading the rest of your brainlet take when you literally destroyed your own argument and agreed with me in your very first sentence lol
Anonymous No.719774392 >>719774503
>>719774325
So you're saying it's not free and you're here to just shill a physical product?
Anonymous No.719774393 >>719774436
>>719774309
You never made any argument. You posted a link that didn’t back up your complaint, and then when I called you out you shared a screenshot that also did not back up your complaint. That’s not an argument.
Anonymous No.719774394 >>719774482
why does this shit get shilled here so much
Anonymous No.719774408 >>719774475
>>719774181
Retroarch gives you hacky dogshit placebo about input lag (just make sure you don't actually test it in real-time button to pixel to see how bad it is)

MiSTer gives you the real fucking thing, completely identical to original hardware down to the nanosecond.
Anonymous No.719774436 >>719774526
>>719774393
>You never made any argument.
I did, read the fucking thread.

>You posted a link
I did, you asked for source and I gave you one, if you don't like it or don't want to read it then that's not my problem
Anonymous No.719774475
>>719774408
>hacky
>placebo
Is this all that these mister shill jews have left? buzzwords? how sad.

You ain't selling shit with this weak ass takes my shill dude.
Anonymous No.719774482 >>719774641
>>719774394
1 dedicated mega-autist
Anonymous No.719774503 >>719774520
>>719774392
It's not a physical product.
Anonymous No.719774520 >>719774582
>>719774503
Then where can I get it? where's the download link?
Anonymous No.719774526 >>719774558
>>719774436
Okay I read the thread. All you did was call me a nigger.
Looks like I win again. Nothing persenel
Anonymous No.719774528 >>719774592
>>719774364
You really are retarded, aren't you?

If you read the rest of the post you'd see why run-ahead is a shitty cope. I don't even use it even when I emulate on RetroArch, as without it, RetroArch is very close to original hardware if your setup is optimized (which mine is), and run-ahead just adds bullshit variance and inconsistency into the mix.

Again, test it yourself with 240fps camera and you will understand
Anonymous No.719774558 >>719774585
>>719774526
You read the entire thread in just a few seconds? wow you must be really smart! :)
Anonymous No.719774559 >>719774618 >>719774673
>>719762709 (OP)
FPGA is the epitome of being a 'problem guy'
the type of person who find obscure and irrelevant problems so their hobby can become dumping thousands into 'solving' it
noone who plays on FPGA (hardware emulation) can tell the difference between software emulation. any youtuber who says otherwise are usually shilling their own product or link

for other examples of 'problem guys', see: linux users, mouse / keyboard hobbyists, graphics card obsessives, emulation handheld hobbyists
Anonymous No.719774582 >>719774650
>>719774520
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/mr-fusion/releases
Keep in mind it only runs on a Terasic DE10-Nano or clones.
Anonymous No.719774585
>>719774558
My brain is big, yes.
Anonymous No.719774592 >>719774738 >>719774841
>>719774528
>If you read the rest of the post
It's just more brainlet takes.
You literally agreed with me on the point that original hardware have native input delay.
Run-ahead gets rid of this.
Your shitty toy cannot run this feature, making Retroarch the superior experience.

End of discussion.
Anonymous No.719774618
>>719774559
>graphics card obsessives
What do you mean by this? I think it's pretty important to settle on a good one if you're building a PC.
Anonymous No.719774637
>>719767083
It's wholesome reddit lingo
Anonymous No.719774641 >>719774702
>>719774482
Are they getting paid for it or what? Everyone just prefers to emulate for free and if you really want to. Just shell out for the original hardware even if the market is shit. Like if I REALLY wanted to enjoy dreamcast games I'd just use the money to buy the actual console and the games instead of a dumb box.
Anonymous No.719774650 >>719774738
>>719774582
And you expect me to solder this stuff or something? you are not making a good case of making this look better than retroarch, which works natively on any pc plaftorm and even raspberry pies
Anonymous No.719774673 >>719774743
>>719774559
MiSTer just plays completely identical to original hardware in every aspect from video latency to audio latency to rendering, sound, timing, performance, physics, etc.

And it hooks up seamlessly and laglessly to any display, CRT or modern

That alone puts it above emulation, which is laggy bullshit, both video and audio.
Anonymous No.719774691
Posting games I like to play on the meester
Anonymous No.719774702
>>719774641
/v/ is full of shills, nothing new.
Mods are faggots and won't do anything about it, instead they delete actual vidya discussion.
Anonymous No.719774704 >>719774994
>>719762709 (OP)
>and having a blast
ChatGPT marketing detected.
Anonymous No.719774738
>>719774592
Having less input delay than the original console would go against the stated goal of the project anyway.
>>719774650
There's no soldering involved.
Anonymous No.719774743 >>719774885
>>719774673
Emulation is literally less laggy than original hardware with frame run-ahead.
This isn't 2006 anymore you retard. Your shitty toy is obsolete.
Anonymous No.719774771
Another game I love firing up on the good ol’ mister
Anonymous No.719774802
>>719762709 (OP)
>have every game in existence on my steam deck
>this

I don't get it
Anonymous No.719774841 >>719774872
>>719774592
>run-ahead gets rid of this
Yeah, with about four asterisks worth of qualifiers that makes it overall not worth it to use and an overall net negative, which I just laid out for you in detail from extensive testing.

But you're a fucking poorfag subhuman retard who just wants to cover his ears and go "LALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" and live in ignorance, coping with your hacky placebo garbage.

I used to fucking support and shill run-ahead, until I actually tested it myself and saw firsthand it was bullshit. That should fucking tell you something. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Retroarch is great, but run-ahead is just bullshit
Anonymous No.719774848
>>719762916
SiSTer acked
Anonymous No.719774872 >>719774932
>>719774841
>Reddit spacing
Opinion discarded.
Anonymous No.719774885 >>719774946
>>719774743
See >>719774310

Your retarded ass probably plays on a 60Hz monitor too. Go ahead and add two frames of v-sync lag as well.
Anonymous No.719774932 >>719775030
>>719774872
Absolutely seething. The veneer is about to crack. Maybe you'll wake up to the bullshit.
Anonymous No.719774946 >>719775197
>>719774885
I play at 120Hz with black frame insertion for even less input delay and proper strobbing effect.
Your weak ass toy can't handle both of these features.
You remind me of those pajeet shills desperately trying to scam people.
Anonymous No.719774952
any time I mention even a slightly obscure game on this board I either get no replies or I get one reply that is “heh AVGN made fun of this game! Why are you playing that crap :P”
But I don’t mind. I’m just enjoying the SG-1000 port of Flicky on my favorite retro device: the Mister.
Anonymous No.719774994 >>719775229
>>719767083
>>719774704
ESL here, I've unironically used having a blast a few times so what should I use instead for when I've been having a blast? I've been having a niggerific time?
Anonymous No.719775030 >>719775272
>>719774932
Yes, I woke up to your shitty shill bullshit.
Nobody cares or needs this shit. They use emulators like normal people.
Autistic people with high IQ use Retroarch with custom config.
Autistic low IQ retards like yourself shill this shit non-stop because you got filtered by the UI and bought a new toy that "claims" to be le original hardware even though it's literally not lol
Anonymous No.719775114 >>719775229
Having a blast with Parappa on the Mister. It’s a good thing Mister is so accurate. The timing on this game sure gets tricky.
Anonymous No.719775162 >>719775196 >>719775272
Whenever one of you fucks make a """plug-and-play""" with a """just drop the game file in this folder""" device you'll be rich.
But you are lazy and afraid of success.
Even "original joysticks" are a bonus.
Anonymous No.719775196
>>719775162
Both nintendo and sony did with the mini-console.
Nobody bought them.
Emulators won this race 25 years ago.
Anonymous No.719775197 >>719775351
>>719774946
BFI increases input lag, moron. Just make sure you don't ever actually test the button-to-pixel input lag of your setup, wouldn't want to break your ignorant delusions.

RetroArch can get close to input lag of original hardware, but run-ahead just introduces greater input latency variance as well as uneven frame-pacing. There's genuinely no reason to ever use it outside of extremely rare edge cases as highlighted above.

RetroArch also has much higher audio latency than original hardware.

Meanwhile MiSTer is completely identical to original hardware in every way down to the exact nanosecond for video/audio latency and timing. Cope with that however you see fit.
Anonymous No.719775229 >>719775296
>>719774994
It just seems odd that the exact same phrase is used by a lot of people shilling the pariahs of the gaming industry with no qualification.
Considering OP is shilling these underpowered emulation boxes, it fits.
I'm not saying the phrase isn't valid, but it's really trendy for faggots.
>>719775114
>inaccurate timing on real hardware
>FPGA fixes it somehow
I bet. Parappa 1 was a broken release. You had to train yourself to play off timing to play it well.
Anonymous No.719775272 >>719775410
>>719775162
MiSTer is already that with the update_all script

>>719775030
>I am le high IQ gigachad, which is why I use shitty hacky placebo garbage just because it's cheaper, and refuse to actually test it myself for fear that I would shatter my delusions
The copium is off the charts
Anonymous No.719775295
>>719764901
what old games are you playing that require that level of precision nigga
Anonymous No.719775296 >>719775436
>>719775229
>I am bad at the game so the game is wrong
That’s a compelling point you got there my nigga. Care to source me? Can’t? Damn
Anonymous No.719775338 >>719775379 >>719775680
>>719762709 (OP)
why the fuck would I want this when I have a retrotink and flashcarts
Anonymous No.719775351 >>719775385
>>719775197
>BFI increases input lag
Which 120Hz compensates.
You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed huh
Anonymous No.719775379 >>719775447
>>719775338
>retrotink
even mister is more respectable than that
Anonymous No.719775385 >>719775451
>>719775351
You can output at 120Hz without BFI, retard.
Anonymous No.719775410 >>719775639
>>719775272
>shitty hacky placebo garbage
You talking about your mister garbage? cuz it sure sounds like that lol

Gigachads use actual original hardware.
You are literally the TRANNY equivalent for retro gaming.
You will never be a real console.
Anonymous No.719775436 >>719775753
>>719775296
lol
lmao even
also rofl
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.719775447 >>719775532 >>719775602
>>719775379
no it's just people who are dumb enough to pay for emulation because they get tricked into thinking it's better then just doing it on a PC
Anonymous No.719775451 >>719775549 >>719775563
>>719775385
Why would I do that you retard? you're gonna blur the screen even more than it already does on an LCD display.
Anonymous No.719775501 >>719775746
>Im a real console! just like the original!
Anonymous No.719775532 >>719775602
>>719775447
It's more accurate and I can play at subhuman resolutions. You people playing at 4k don't know the SOVL you're missing when everything's a blurry shimmery smear on a CRT hooked up via composite so everything bleeds red.
Anonymous No.719775549 >>719775613
>>719775451
Why are you fucking retarded? All it does is draw the frame faster.
Anonymous No.719775563
>>719775451
>He isn't blurmaxxing
Anonymous No.719775602 >>719775649
>>719775447
>>719775532
So why not just use some other device instead of paying hundreds for upscaling?
Anonymous No.719775613 >>719775689
>>719775549
>Double the video output
Do you even know what blur is? You're such a fucking retard. Don't discuss topics you clearly know nothing about.
Anonymous No.719775639 >>719775668
>>719775410
MiSTer IS originally hardware, you fucking numbskull, that's what you don't seem to understand.

It is completely and utterly identical to original hardware in every possible way. Your MiSTer causes your CRT TV and your 4k TV both think and act exactly identical to the original hardware with an OEM controller connected

That's the whole fucking appeal. Maybe you understand now.
Anonymous No.719775649 >>719777606
>>719775602
Because the few hundred I spend on this makes me rich compared to you poorfags with $2000 GPUs, chuddie. :3
Anonymous No.719775668 >>719775746
>>719775639
>MiSTer IS originally hardware
and trannies ARE real women!
Anonymous No.719775680
>>719775338
If you bought flashcarts then there isn’t a point to get a mister unless you want to get into retro pcs like speccy, c64 and apple II whatever. Retrotink supports mister direct video, though, which makes my setup very small and simple. My big gripe with Mister is that OEM controller setup is a mess. Just lots of cables and adapters. It
Anonymous No.719775689 >>719775715
>>719775613
You are fucking retarded. The blur doesn't improve or worsen, all it does is draw the frame twice as fast and duplicate it.
Anonymous No.719775715 >>719775814
>>719775689
>all it does is draw the frame twice as fast and duplicate it.
Which causes blur.
Anonymous No.719775716
raspberry pi 5 can do everything mister can plus gamecube dreamcast and wii
Anonymous No.719775746 >>719775790
>>719775501
>>719775668
Poorfags seething so hard right now.

Imagine trying to shill your software emu garbage on one side of your mouth while trying to call MiSTer not original hardware on the other side.
Anonymous No.719775753 >>719775913
>>719775436
>he’s never even seen cool mode
It’s ok to admit you’ve been playing the game wrong anon. No one is judging you. Except me, of course.
https://youtu.be/wl2vhMK9Q7c?feature=shared
Anonymous No.719775790 >>719775894
>>719775746
>le poorfag
OH, now NOW you admit you were shilling your garbage product here huh?
Looks like I won :)
Thanks for letting everyone know your true intentions here you stupid shill.
Anonymous No.719775814 >>719775889
>>719775715
You are absolutely fucking retarded. No, it fucking doesn't. The frame is being held for the exact same fucking amount of time, the only difference is whether it's drawn in 16.7ms or 8.3ms

How are you this fucking dense? Even if you literally never go above 60fps, you would still much rather have that 60fps in a 120fps or 240fps container.
Anonymous No.719775889 >>719775938
>>719775814
Do you know why 30 fps feels "choppy"
Do I really need to explain this concept to you like you're 5 y/o?
Anonymous No.719775894 >>719775930
>>719775790
Yes, 99% of MiSTer hate originates from poorfaggotry. If MiSTer was free, you can damn sure bet these people would be all over it, but they have to make every excuse in the book to cope with their sour grapes over not having enough spare income to be able to throw at an enthusiast piece of tech.
Anonymous No.719775913 >>719776003
>>719775753
All you have to do to hit Cool is to double up your taps for every press, and then hit the last one a bunch of times as the line extends to the end.
It's not something you mastered that nobody else has. The timing is still off, but people learned how to play it well in spite of it.
Play 2 and you'll see how much tighter the timing is.
Anonymous No.719775930 >>719775972
>>719775894
Mister Trannies ARE the poorfags who cannot afford original hardware though.
Anonymous No.719775938 >>719776010
>>719775889
I can't tell if you're trolling or just retarded, but I'm not doing this with you. Go play in traffic or something.

Literally just five seconds of research and you would understand, but you keep acting fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.719775972
>>719775930
It's valid and stunning original hardware, bigot.
Anonymous No.719776003
>>719775913
You just ASSUME I haven’t played parappa 2? I bet everything you try to eat turns into noodles baka.
Anonymous No.719776010 >>719776149
>>719775938
>Try to explain simple video concept to retard
>NOOOO YOU ARE TROLLING >:(

This is what I get for being patient with retards
Anonymous No.719776023 >>719776210
Being able to switch outputs instantly for VGA 31khz, RGB, and composite is a dream. It just werks.
Anonymous No.719776149 >>719776259
>>719776010
You're not even on the right planet right now, you're just full blown braindead. Whatever, eat shit, don't care.
Anonymous No.719776150
>>719762709 (OP)
Why shouldn't I just play on MAME in my computer instead of wasting like 500 bucks on this?
Anonymous No.719776151 >>719776201 >>719776202
To summarize this thread:
>OP is poor
>OP is a faggot
>OP is retarded
>$430 for this junk that doesn't even play games rendered at 4k
>CRT from a junkyard for the entry fee
>I'm poor because I choose to play this on my $2000 GPU and $2500 monitor with a $600 CPU and $600 memory and $1000+ worth of drives on a $300 motherboard so I can crank it beyond original specifications because consoles were always for the poors
Anonymous No.719776191
It looks ugleh, try could have made a nice looking casing for what they're charging
Anonymous No.719776201 >>719776278
>>719776151
>>CRT from a junkyard for the entry fee
>>I'm poor because I choose to play this on my $2000 GPU and $2500 monitor with a $600 CPU and $600 memory and $1000+ worth of drives on a $300 motherboard so I can crank it beyond original specifications because consoles were always for the poors
And yet it's still less accurate and with more video latency and more audio latency. LOL!
Anonymous No.719776202 >>719776278
>>719776151
bit disingenuous not to use the clone price
Anonymous No.719776210
>>719776023
Sorry you’re in the wrong thread. We aren’t discussing practical applications. The thread is just being spammed by a guy who thinks the most accurate way to play retro is on a rpie with run ahead frames connected to a 720p hdmi to composite converter on a crt with a usb controller.
If you lose a few brain cells we might consider letting you party with us.
Anonymous No.719776259
>>719776149
>A bloo bloo simple concept scary :(
Good riddance faggot.
Go back to high school.
Anonymous No.719776278 >>719776343 >>719776405 >>719776517
>>719776202
I don't keep up with this faggotry. I just know they're underpowered and meant for poors to stay in the poor age playing poor systems at poor settings like the poor poors they are.
>>719776201
>accurate
Nobody cares.
>latency
You're not a pro gamer, and no console game gets latency via emulation that you have to adjust for. Not a single one.
>LOL!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GONNA SEND THIS TO MY GRANDKIDS ON THE FACE PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MISS AOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.719776343
>>719776278
Damn bro you sound upset. Totally not an inferiority complex
Anonymous No.719776405 >>719776621
>>719776278
>It's better, but it just... le doesn't matter
Not beating the poorfag allegations here. You have an inferior piece of tech and must cope with it
Anonymous No.719776517 >>719776621
>>719776278
>this is a shill thread for a $200 open source project!!
>actually I could buy one if I wanted to but I won’t because they suck!
>my pc build cost $3500 and I use it to play NES on retroarch with run ahead frames set to auto! With a bluetooth controller that adds back 8 frames of input delay!
I’m not the guy you’ve been arguing with, but man I think you gotta accept you are crashing out pretty hard right now guy. Maybe leave the thread alone and enjoy some input delay free NES on your epic pc build for a bit.
Might I suggest Kunio-Kun? Many say its a bad game, but the combat has a nice feel and its perhaps the first true beat-em up.
Anonymous No.719776621 >>719776680 >>719777508
>>719776405
>it's better
>I just can't quantify it
Show me your MiSTer (if you even have one, Poory McPoorenstein) running a PS2 game like this.
>>719776517
>bluetooth
Imagine using wireless anything gaming. This is proof you're poor.
Anonymous No.719776680 >>719776832
>>719776621
I wasn’t even the guy you were talking to. You a schizo ass.
Anonymous No.719776832 >>719776969
>>719776680
A schizo ahh, you mean.
Anonymous No.719776969 >>719777081
>>719776832
I don’t use social media, sorry. IRL in the day and lurking and vidya at night takes up all my time.
But I sure do love playing Street Fighter EX Plus a on the good old mister. It’s a blast!™
Anonymous No.719777081 >>719777302
>>719776969
>playing a port
Why? Are all FPGAfags that stupid in addition to being poor?
Anonymous No.719777302
>>719777081
>the sony ZN arcade board is almost the exact same as a playstation
>arcade version doesn’t have cd audio
>mister can enable fast disc read and remove load times
..you were saying?
Anonymous No.719777508
>>719776621
PS2 should be played on a slotmask CRT over composite, the way god intended
Anonymous No.719777606
>>719775649
>being autistic enough to stick to original hardware but then having to throw it on an HD screen
As I said, more assbackwards than mister.
Anonymous No.719777761
>>719764382
I have fond memories of zsnes. I finished Chrono Trigger on New Year's Eve many years ago, unable to go to any parties because we were snowed in, while drunk on copious amounts of wine. Good times.
Anonymous No.719779595
Another mister shill thread
Anonymous No.719780140
>>719762709 (OP)
isn't wii better for that?