Thread 719784287

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>Added more mechanics and complexity
>Made it even harder
>Added more loot
Bad news. They did the exact opposite of what we wanted. Nioh 2 went so overboard with the unnecessary bloat, we fans asked TN to streamline it for Nioh 3 but the devs double down on it. Nioh 3 might be dead on arrival because of arrogant developers and their """"""vision""""". More is not always better.

Easy skip. I was fed up with the shitty diablo loot. Stopping every 5 minutes to do inventory management is NOT fun. They also removed the much beloved PvP of the first game so they can go fuck themselves.

>>719784287 (OP)
nah, nioh 2 wasn't bloated we just wanted the same game but with new enemies, bosses, weapons and maybe a few new skills. The open world completely ruined what many people enjoyed about the first 2 games

>>719784763
What did it ruin? Combat? Certaintly not level design because that was never good in other nioh games.

>>719784287 (OP)
>More loot
That's the only bad thing. And it's not that bad.

>>719784373
>>719784763
yea I feel you bros. whats a good nioh alternative you would recommend?

>>719784287 (OP)
I don't like the excessive loot but my friend who is as big of a Nioh fan as i am likes it, so it has an appeal, it seems. No issue with more mechanics though, i enjoyed every gameplay change in 2 so i trust team ninja.

>>719784287 (OP)
did they remove the stances? or is the ui hiding it

>/v/ now wants casualized games
>not only that they want masocore but casualized

>>719785045
nvm swapping ui

>have tons of skills that all sound good in their own right
>tons of graces that have interesting effects to consider
>95% of it's useless in the true endgame due to the bosses self healing and forcing you to play damage builds only

So many types of damage skills, and yet only a couple matter like %damage to zero ki enemies. It's insane. I still love Nioh 2, but the gearing is fucking retarded. If you're going to make so many different skills, just let people temper anything to anything directly. Waste of time.

>>719784967
This game is unironically better than Nioh because it focuses more on the most important aspect. The boss fights.

>>719785149
>If you're going to make so many different skills, just let people temper anything to anything directly
They did this for Wo Long. I'm expecting that and the auto-transmog to return in Nioh 3.

>>719785241
Yeah, Wo Long had it's issues but when I realized I could temper whatever I wanted at the start, I was happy. Great change, and Stranger of Paradise was nearly that way with how easy it was to combine pieces together and copy them if need be.

>>719784967
Sekiro is 1billion times better than gayoh but lack manly pvp so i would say eldenring

>>719784287 (OP)
The alpha was legitimately great though.

>>719784373
Did you know... you can filter wich loot will show? Like, if you only want "legendaries", it will only show those drops?

>>719784287 (OP)
>They did the exact opposite of what we wanted
Speak for yourself.

>>719784287 (OP)
Swear I saw this when i saw the thread thumbnail

>>719785469
Strangers of Paradise just had an auto dismantler, I don't see why it wouldn't be in Nioh 3

>>719785469
I want the dismantle material though. It needs auto dismantle or sell.

>>719785931
as did the first two Niohs and Wo Long and Ronin. those who complain about loot system in team ninja games are filthy secondary casuals unable to grasp how the system team ninja uses is actually really well crafted.

>Added more mechanics and complexity
>Made it even harder
>Added more loot

Issues for thee, not for me.

>>719785170
Nioh needs to copy Khazans loot system. Almost all the gear is tied to bosses so you just farm the boss. Set bonuses completely change how moves work and you can easily reroll bad individual stats to create the perfect gear

Nioh has a bloated loot system but the worst part is that loot is almost completely pointless because youre just getting .1% damage increases or completely worthless stats

>>719785906
>It starts with loot
>I don’t know why
>They stacked systems till my brain fried
>Keep that in mind, the devs designed
>With a vision they swear is divine
>
>All this grind
>Time slips away
>I clicked through menus for half the day
>Watch the skill tree split ten ways
>And still I die in the same cliché
>
>They tried so hard
>And added so much
>But in the end
>It’s just cluttered fluff
>I played so long
>To feel the same
>And in the end
>It’s just more pain
>
>One more stance
>One more gauge
>One more boss with a thousand blades
>They heard our cries, but turned the page
>“Streamline?” Nah, they doubled the maze
>
>I had to crawl
>Through endless stats
>A spreadsheet war in a demon’s trap
>They call it depth, I call it bloat
>A vision sinking the fanbase boat
>
>They tried so hard
>And added so much
>But in the end
>It’s just cluttered fluff
>I played so long
>To feel the same
>And in the end
>It’s just more pain

>>719784287 (OP)
>They did the exact opposite of what we wanted.
If by 'we' you mean gaming journalists then maybe. Looks kino. Inb4 more faggots crying about game mechanics and diablo loot

>>719785170
Bosses are so trivial once you figure out your best combos and reflection by 3rd boss. It's fun but doesn't hold a candle to nioh

>>719784287 (OP)
You're not a fan. You're secondary trash. I thought they were going to appease you retards but fortunately I was wrong.

>>719785319
>same filename
Do you just repost this in every nioh thread? Buckbroken.

>>719784912
That's a good thing honestly. The only issue with loot I had in Nioh 2 was that it took to long to sort in the end game. Besides that it's hilariously basic, just equip the highest level/rarity equipment and scrap the rest.

>>719785170
The boss fights in this game are so overhyped (the greatsword is too). The game is the definition of mid.

>>719786398
>you can easily reroll bad individual stats to create the perfect gear
You can do this in Nioh my nigga

>>719784287 (OP)
Diablo loot is total dogshit in these games.

>>719786398
Lmao nioh has everything you just mentioned. Play the game next time fag

>>719784287 (OP)
>More game
I'm happy.
Does it still have NG+ cycles?

Nioh loot is fine. Just check it after you finish a mission. You usually get rid of anything you're not using in like 2 clicks. I don't get how you people get filtered by something that you barely interact with on the first run of a save.

>>719784287 (OP)
>more stuff
I'm not one to ask for simplification, but I do think 2 went overboard. I much prefer how 1 played in general, even if there were improvements
Also, really, simplify at least the loot. Nobody wants to reroll equipment to skip "+0.7% damage on forward attacks"
Even if you think the loot is a good idea, at least make a smaller pool of equipment traits and likely lock sets with permanent ones.
The late stage grind is after one weapon with one trait is unbearable

>>719786706
Set bonuses in nioh are shit like do 6% more damage when an enemy is on fire. They do nothing to change how you actually play the game

>>719787064
Or shit like versatility, or infinite shurikens for animation cancels or specific effects like partying projectiles back at enemy with a perfect block, again play the game

>>719786436
>>719786502
>being this defensive over dogshit game mechanics like random loot
>thinks that wasting your time sorting through trash makes you hardcore
This is why Nioh games will never rise above being mid

sounds like a (you) problem

>>719787303
You're the one seething about it. It was never an issue for me. Keep crying I guess.

>>719784287 (OP)
Wo Long and Ronin were streamlined version of Nioh and fans hated them. I thought you wanted more bloat

>>719784287 (OP)
I haven't even played 1 or 2 and I really want to but can't be bothered

>>719787579
I feel like this about at least a dozen games but it's because I have less and less time for video games and they are such a time consuming hobby

I really hated the ki-monster tranformstion meme-mechanic from 2. I just wanna be a samurai fighting demons and Robin and ninjas and shit

Are any of the TN games released between Nioh 2 and 3 worth playing?

>>719788340
that depends your concept of "worth playing", I had fun with Wo Long although I have no desire to go back to it

>>719788340
Stranger of paradise is great, wo long is hit or miss with a bunch of people. Ronin feels like them trying to go for mass appeal so combat is a bit basic but still fun. Ninja gaiden 2 black is inferior to other versions since it's just sigma 2 in ue5

>>719784287 (OP)
I like a company who doesn't listen to the gamers.

>>719784287 (OP)
>>Added more mechanics and complexity
>>Made it even harder
>>Added more loot
Based based based

>>719787064
good lord you are a fucking retard. I want you to play an endgame onmyo build and say that again.

Living weapons > Yokai shit.

>>719788340
I liked SoP

>>719784287 (OP)
Its funny both I and many on /v/ kept telling retards that both styles can use almost all the weapons and Fists etc were found in out of bounds areas. Now the collective of /v/ is ignoring they were blatantly wrong about weapon removal and are pivoting to saying the game is bloated because of jumping and style swap. Who the fuck am I kidding half this thread is fucking bots.

>>719789051
Is this better than GayLong?

>>719789051
>Jack's anger fuelled monologue during that fight

>>719784287 (OP)
>leaving the tracker querystring in the uri

No kusa stances no buy

>>719789051
Cinema