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Just bought this. What am i in for?

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and mangoes, and lots of faith

>>719787739 (OP)
Horse balls.

a solid 7/10 with some really gay moments, modern ideas being forced on the past

10/10 open world, 7/10 missions, kino/10 story.

>>719787739 (OP)
Depending on your sensibilities either a 10/10 unforgettable experience or a 7/10 game that feels like a giant waste of money and resources.

Wherever you like it or not depends if you're a normie who gets easily impressed by realism and flashy graphics, or if you prioritize gameplay and control responsiveness.

>>719787739 (OP)
The most fleshed out cowboy game that feels equal parts dynamic and equal parts restrictive. Incredible production value that most would say still hasn't been topped. The story has some good bits but it's painfully anachronistic at times, half the praise it gets is for being a convincing friend simulator. The mission design is some of the most atrocious in modern gaming, it can legitimately be summed up with
>ride with a character for 5 minutes as they dump exposition on you
>shoot guys/do the task that character told you to do
>50% of the times something goes wrong so you'll have to shoot even more guys/ do even more tasks
>return to camp
Just take your time, explore the world and be an outlaw.

>>719789079
pretty accurate, i'd add that the voice acting is amazing

the only flaw this game has is it's clunkiness and yes, i know it's supposed to make it feel "more realistic"

On rails walky talky moviegame where running a few meters away from where the script wants you to be results in an instant game over.
Heavily automated zero skill gameplay that you sleepwalk through just to gulp down the "content" without engaging with it in any meaningful way.
All of the dumbing down, railroading and automation is to prop up a generic pretentious story about a suspiciously progressive outlaw who dies at the end.
It gets endlessly glazed for no other reason than the presentation and production values.

>>719787739 (OP)
proofs? post steam receipt

>we need money
>i have a playun
>the playun went wrong Arthur
>we gotta move camp, get money
>we've moved five minutes away, let's keep our heads down
>I have a playun for a big loud score
>the playun went wrong Arthur

>>719789627
there's nothing pretentious about the story

>>719789627
Please define "pretentious" for me, swarthoid.

>>719789931
Simplistic art that uses smoke, mirrors and charlatanry to appear deeper than it is.

>>719787739 (OP)
Van der Linde was a rat from the start. He created this gang only to inflict his revenge on the world. After they found some land in Cali, he understood he couldn't keep selling the lie any longer and moved the gang east with the goal to make the world pay.

Also, it's woke propaganda hidden behind masculinity. Haha, white men die, it's funny. Minorities doubleplus good.

>>719789931
>jiggling in his seat to defend a story about saving shitskins from teh heckin racists
>"swarthoid"
ok Pablo we get it you self-identify as "white"

Am I the only one who have a problem with the raceswap?
New Orleans is 50% Chink, the deep west 40% black, the Inidan gang in the Appalachians are white hillbiliies and the gang of batshit razy Indians that will form the new gang of Van der Linde in Red red I is now multicultural.

>>719789743
also the crux of the entire story is Arthur's growing skepticism and deteriorating relationship with Dutch but he's already skeptical from the prologue and the player can already tell that Dutch is a piece of shit without higher morals from the very start of the game reading between the lines of the blackwater job conversations so there's no real progression in the story. There's 0 tragedy behind Dutch slipping further because there's no reveal to it, and it just makes Arthur seem like a retard for taking six chapters to grow a braincell.

Tahiti simulator

>>719787739 (OP)
Lots of "mission failed" screens for thinking outside the tiny box rockstar keeps you inside in an open world game.

>>719790545
>Am I the only one who have a problem with the raceswap?
no but you can't mention it because most players of RDR2 are brownoids and will take it personally

>>719788930
>modern ideas being forced on the past
if you're interested in a word for when they do that, it's called 'presentism'

>>719790691
This is what makes the main campaign unbearable for me. If you want to make a fucking movie then why did you put it in an open world game?
You can tell they thought of every "mission" like a cutscene and you get a mission failed for deviating even slightly from the script they had in their heads. RDR2 is one of the most annoyingly restrictive games I've ever played and it's supposed to be a fucking open world.
The game pisses me off so much because it has so much potential and absolutely insane production values but they waste it all with the fucking atrocious mission design.

>>719790970
This game would have been better if some kareens didn't tried to use it to make people hate whites.

>>719791121
It's made for video game journalists. Just use deadeye to kill everything that come your way and breeze it until the end.

>>719789326
This. Its the GTA formula. Try to ignore "Now we got ambushed by 50 guys", its just part of how they do the games. Characters are very convincing individuals with their own motives but can be anachronistic at times
Theres two feminists in the game: first one is "women are equal we can be girlbosses!". She gets lynched for what she does and her other accomplishes have to flee, the other is intentionally obnoxious "let me vote let me vote" spammer that Arthur lmao's at. You wouldnt get this impression from /vee/ though since we're mad at cherry-picked introduction scenes where they dont get what was coming for them for acting so at that era.

>>719787739 (OP)
Woke cowboys

>>719791856
But they aren't?

>>719791847
>She gets lynched for what she does and her other accomplishes have to flee
let's not stretch the truth and act like the game makes this out as a good thing. you are intended to feel sorry for her and want to get revenge. the point of that is to justify later massacring everyone in rhodes

>>719791847
>Girlboss ask Arthur to come kill people for fun
>Arthur tell her that revange is bad
>Arthur get badboy points, as if he just killed some guy

>Guy ask a woman to leave the men only place
>Girlboss stab him
>Everybody think it's fine

I hate cowboy girlbosses more than I hate regular girlbosses.

>>719791121
Not trying to defend the game (railroading like this is sad and bad), but thats just how Rockstar does things.
>Doing a heist at skyscraper but got ambushed FIGHT THEM OFF SO YOU CAN ESCAPE
>Shoot a window and jump off with the parachute you had from using helicopter to fly to the mission
>Mission failed: you left the area

>>719792235
How you feel about the things is on you. Its presented by one of her accomplises as panicking "they killed her you gotta help me escape". Imo thats just a normal reaction, but she had it coming, as is realistic for that age. At no point are you forced to do stuff like going to avenge her for hecking evil white men doing hecking sexist stuff, or change anything. In this world she got lynched for acting like 2000's feminist and you help the roaches around her scatter (if you want to). The game makes no further commentary on that for good or bad. Every hecking bad man gets away scot-free (except those you kill if you decide to help the roach escape her relatives trying to stop her from doing more retarded stuff if you go along with her, which paints you as easily-manipulated bad guy desu)

>>719792337
No idea which missions you are talking about, you have to be more specific.

>>719792084
Arthur is 100% woke coded

>>719787739 (OP)
Slow ass game

>>719793115
>No idea which missions you are talking about, you have to be more specific.
When you are in the last camp, she ask Arthur to come to the other side of the map to kill the guys who killed her husband. This is the last mission with her as Arthur.

The other one is in the saloon when she meet John again.

>>719789326
Forgot to mention, but also get ready for a lot of narrative dissonance. A big part of Arthur's character, as the game presents it, is that he's an enforcer and a brute that's grown doubtful of his morality. It would work if Arthur didn't murder literal towns of people in multiple mandatory story missions.

slow as balls movie game where they managed to make the open world also into a movie game

and yeah, a false vision of the old west

the first game is where it's at, not this sweet baby inc trash

>>719793115
>How you feel about the things is on you.
arthur killing everyone in rhodes, every braithwaite, and every lemoyne raider is not personal interpretation retard. the game is clearly framing all of those people as bad guys and you are bending over backwards trying to say that isn't the case

>Now hold yer horses Dutch, we may be thieves and murderers but racism’s outta line. Just because we kill folks don’t mean we can reinforce white supremacy.
>And I better not see you misgender any of them trans folks either.

>>719793115
>The game makes no further commentary on that for good or bad.
Are you dense or an activist? They learly show the sufragettes as reasonable everyday women with a noble cause and the people who oppose them are MY HEAD IS MASSIVE kind of retarded and can't form an argument. Of course they can't.

>>719793481
It remind me of when Leny explain to you what microagressions are and how bad it is for black people.
>You see Arthur, it may just be the way they look at you, but it mean that one day they will say the N word or sneak ito your home to kill you
And of course you can't tell him that you killed 100 people yesterday alone.

>>719787739 (OP)
The most impressive game, technologically

>>719791121
Amusingly, Watch Dogs 2, the cingey one with all the shit characters, had some of the best mission design in high budget open world games. You usually get a location and a general goal and you can go about it however you want.

>>719787739 (OP)
Most wasted potential. If u want criminal western story then you will get woke leftish tearjerker drama.

>>719787739 (OP)
A story that becomes more and more pretentious as you get into it.

>>719797393
Please define "pretentious" for me, swarthoid.

charles voice acting is anime tier

>>719793645
>Oh, Arthur "INSISTS" we use their preferred pronouns. Well, if you "insist," Arthur.

>>719797875
Use the internet, retardo

>>719787739 (OP)
You will never be able to like this game when you find out that night cycle lasts a one minute and daytime lasts ten times longer and this is done on purpose for snoys faggots

>>719798065
Please define "internet" for me, swarthoid.

>>719798428
and it isn't even dark, you have to install mods just to make it look like actual night time

>>719787739 (OP)
Great open world, bland story, dogshit railroaded missions that follow the usual GTA formula. The fact that Rockstar spends millions on small inconsequential details but can't design an open ended mission worth a shit will never not be funny to me

>>719787739 (OP)
the greatest most soulful game ever released. no game comes close

>>719798610
What does words even mean? What is even knowledge? Define "word".

>>719787739 (OP)
You have to take it slow. You'll miss many character interactions if you just blow through the story missions.

Also a couple of tips. Make separate manual saves in addition to the autosave. Also, stay in Chapter 2 for a good while and do a bunch of exploring. Keep a save file here before progressing onto Chapter 3 just in case. Also, when in Chapter 3 this is when to go nuts and do more optional stuff. Chapter 4 and onward camps suck.

>>719787739 (OP)
rooty tooty point-n-shooty manifesting a skibidi two more weeks plan.

Dropped it during chapter 1-2, played it again and now I cannot stop thinking about hunting, fishing and exploring.

Best open world game ever made.

Why do you make these threads?

>>719801024
Should we not be making video game threads on /v/?

>>719793645
>Arthus is a criminal, i.e. he belongs to the class of Bad People who do the Bad Things, and racism is a Bad Thing, therefore, Arthur should be a racist!
This illogic lies at the heart of many conservative misapprehensions about the world. Durch's gang are idealists who reject the values of bourgeois society. When racism is socially accepted and practiced by high society, the outlaws are going to be anti-racist. But even without a clear ideological justification they're going to be less inclined to give a shit about bourgeois affectations in favour of pragmatism. As the game in fact demonstrates, it's harder to be a racist when you rely on a black person to watch your back, and polite society despises you both.
>But it's le cowboy times when everyone was racist!
This is also a historical misconception that views the course of history as linear progress - we're enlightened and not racist, therefore people in the past were all racist! In reality, of course, the past was as complex and multifaceted as today, and minority opinions could dissent most vehemently from the mainstream.

But you probably didn't put that much thought into it and just want to say nigger in a video game

>>719802614
you just converted me to communism with this thoughtful, rational, and logical post. i disavow racism and will stand with poc to do what's right

someone post the funny green texts

>>719802780
That's what did it for me so who knows

>>719790997
wow. I learned something useful on /v/. Things you just dont expect to happen

>>719802614
>Durch's gang are idealists who reject the values of bourgeois society
Such as not punching people in the face, not sneaking in their house to steal their shit and not robbing the bank.

> When racism is socially accepted and practiced by high society,
You have not been paying attention. There is only one racist character in the game; the guy in Saint Denis who scream about the races and how we should prevent interacial marriages to save the white race. Very 1899.
Also, everybody is racist because the game sometime need one and sometime another.
So racism in this game is non existent and absolutely universal.

And you forgot that Dutch don't have any ideal. That's the story of the game: he just want to inflict violence on the world, he rat his own gang. He rat the train job you do with John, he rat himself before he go to Valentine. He is the one who ratted the gang in Blackwater.
He just want violence.

>>719788930
>>719790997
>>719803961
The real "presentism" here is modern /v/ projecting its values on the past

>>719804154
>Dutch doesn't have any ideals
>Therefore his followers also don't have any, obviously!
>Except they should still be ideologically committed to white supremacy, that just makes sense

>>719802512
Threads for threads sake are pointless, and you are playing dumb. These threads are pointless. Are you unable to enjoy a game without asking other people what you should think of it? It's one thing to ask "what do you guys think of this game, is it good?", another to ask what you are in for in a game you already spent money on and plan to play.

>>719804619
You do realise this isn't reddit right? Just because OP makes a post about something doesn't mean we have to strictly only talk about that. We can easily just segway into anything Red Dead related. Stop being weird.

>>719804779
You ARE OP most likely, and you didn't even angage with what I said.
>You do realise this isn't reddit right?
No shit?
>Stop being weird.
Stop slamming the hot pockets and maybe play the game your asking about? Or maybe, have a topic of conversation from the start?

>>719791121
Genuinely only got halfway through the 3rd act because of this. The open world and wrangling horses, hunting and sidequests are fantastic. But the story missions that fail you for stepping out of line a tiny bit got so frustrated.

>>719804263
Here's another example of ironic presentism: Ridley Scott wanted a scene in Gladiator where Maximus was asked to endorse local businesses, to underscore his popularity. Test audiences rejected it as a weird interjection of modern values. Except we know this sort of thing actually happened. Test audiences have their modern conception of the oast which is different from the modern day, but ironically ahistoric and informed by modern depictions of the past rather than historical reality.

So it is with people who think everyone in the past was super racist. The other irony is that tumblr probably thinks the same thing.

>>719805041
Sorry that was rude. I try not to be rude even on an imageboard. Offending without there being an extension of good will underlying it is to put ones self at enmity with another, and however passing and temporal it may seem the consequences extend beyond, so sorry.

>>719805128
I just downloaded a postgame save with all the open world stuff uncleared and played that. I recommend doing that and watching the story on youtube if you care that much about it.

>>719787739 (OP)
Feminism enrichment.

>>719805593
Think that'll be what I do id I reinstall it again. I have to admit that I miss the environment.

>>719808523
Just go outside.

>>719808598
I'll just pop down to my local equestrian centre and borrow a horse

>>719808598
Last time I shot a wild deer, the warden arrested me.

>>719809850
Just shoot the warden then.

>>719810031
More wardens would come and I am not going rambo over a deer.

>>719810104
Why not? It's more free meat that you don't need to track down.

>>719787739 (OP)
the best open world I've ever played in by far

I got TB.

>>719810212
I made me remember that you can shoot the bountyhnters and loot them, but you get badboy points if you kill their horses so you can run away without hurting anyone.
And you get badboy points if you kill their dogs too. But not the white men bounty hunters, those are fine.