Thread 719835767

>age: 35
???

How does he even age if he's dead the whole time?

japs are retarded what else is new?

>>719835767 (OP)
This would be me in 5 more years ;)

>>719835767 (OP)
Same age as Tingle, Homer Simpson and me.

A few streaks of gray, otherwise completely fit, muscular, but jaded and worldly
Seems about 35-45 to me

>>719835767 (OP)
He's kinda a walking corpse.

>>719835923
He's not that unrealistic. He's still fit but also a drunk, and lived a rough life.

>>719836149
>otherwise completely fit, muscular
You can be those at 50 zoomie

>>719836268
But can (You)?

>>719835767 (OP)
Here is the rough formula I came up with for JRPG aging. Up 7 years old everything is the same as real life, but after that, each year adds an additional year, so 8 becomes 9, 9 becomes 11, 9 becomes 12, 10 becomes 14, and so on.

>>719836268
Ok....? And? Auron's 35, and looks about right for his age. For a mutilated drunk with a fucked up face he looks good for 35.

>You see, Tidus, I can easily answer all your questions and tell you what's going on... but I'm not going to
I hate this crap so much

>>719836454
he has massive wrinkles idiot

>>719835859
So he was 35 when he was Braska's guardian 10 years ago, or he was 25 back then and his unsent ghost is 35 now?

>>719836567
what the fuck are you talking about, he immediately tells Tidus that Sin is Jecht.

>>719836268
the average person(let alone the average poster in this shithole) can't even achieve that in the peak of their life

>>719836847
>elite bodyguard
>average
retard

>>719835767 (OP)
>smoker

>>719835767 (OP)
If you think he looks like shit, you should see people who smoke.

>>719836847
You have outliers like Carmack or Scott Adams who were pencil necked dweebs in their YA years and got /fit/ late

>>719837202
You can get decently fit at almost any age. You just need the time and the willpower, it's not even expensive.

doomstacks are not fun or appropriate for the spirit of the game

>>719836712
>Sin is Jecht
>what the FUCK does that actually MEAN?!
>heh. no. not telling you.

He doesn't tell him Yuna's pilgrimage is meant to end with her own death and the death of her closest guardian. He doesn't tell Yuna or the others that the Final Aeon is a dual sacrifice. He cryptically alludes that the guy's missing father is now a giant world destroying monster and refuses to elaborate.

>>719835767 (OP)
There are lots of people at 35 who look a lot younger than that but also lots of them who look about like that or worse. People here underestimate pretty badly how much there's variability in how people age.

>>719835767 (OP)
>age 35 virgin

>>719836650
He's aged as an Unsent

>>719835767 (OP)
literally ancient old busted man with 1 foot in the grave

>>719835767 (OP)
2/3 of Japanese media is centered around high school age kids,a 35 year old is like an ancient boomer to them

>>719840769
What the FUCK is the difference between being alive and unsent then?

>>719841323
The Unsent are on the clock

>Tidus: Uh, what’s a “sending”? Are we going somewhere?
>Lulu: (huff!) You truly are clueless. Are you sure it’s just your memory that’s the problem?
>Lulu: The dead need guidance. Filled with grief over their own death, they refuse to face their fate. They yearn to live on, and resent those still alive. You see, they envy the living. And in time, that envy turns to anger, even hate. Should these souls remain in Spira, they become fiends that prey on the living. Sad, isn’t it?

This is the fulcrum of Seymour's motivation. If it's jealousy for the living the turns Unsent into Fiends then just remove the living room the equation. If everyone is Unsent, then what's the difference? Everyone can just hang out on Spira with no fear of dying again. And if you're sick of Spira, you can just fuck off to the Farplane

>>719839494
To be fair EVERYONE was being a dick to Tidus by not telling him. You’d think Wakka or especially Lulu would’ve put it bluntly for him.

>>719841629
Unsent and Fiends are different. You only become Unsent if you die with intense motivation to continue on and see your death coming. Fiends are people who died violent deaths and seethe at how unfair it is.

The Unsent aren't truly immortal because they're bound to the world of the living by desire to do something specific. Auron to see Tidus find a way to kill Jecht and Sin for good, Grand Maester Mika to perpetuate the Church of Yevon as the only hope for defeating Sin, Yunalesca to keep the Final Summoning available until Sin eventually wipes humanity away completely. When Mika learns the only way to kill Sin has been destroyed he straight up sends himself on the spot and it's left ambiguous to if he willingly gave up on life or if the death of his reason for existing forced him to move on.

>>719835859
spoiler

>>719841798
Tidus does actually bring that up

>Tidus: Was I the only one who didn’t know? (Starts shaking her) Tell me why! Why were you hiding it? Why didn’t I know?
>Wakka: We weren’t hiding it…
>Lulu: It was just…too hard to say.
>Tidus: Lulu! How could you? How could you? Isn’t she like a sister to you? I thought you were family! Why don’t you do something, Wakka?
>Lulu: Don’t you think we tried to stop her? She follows…her heart.
>Wakka: Yuna, she knew what she was doing when she chose to become a summoner. To face Sin, ya? Yuna knew!

There are also numerous scenes where Tidus will excitedly mention things to do after defeating Sin and the party will just stand silently, refusing to acknowledge what Tidus just said. Although Yuna does imply why they're like this

>Yuna: It’s embarrassing to say this myself… But summoners and their guardians are kind of like Spira’s ray of light. A lot of people in Spira depend on us. I learned to practice smiling when I’m feeling sad, you know?
>Yuna: I know it’s hard.
>Tidus: Yeah… I understand. I think.

And then everyone proceeded to ignore everything Yuna just said because of HA HA HA

>>719835767 (OP)
what he went through stressed him the fuck out

>>719841980
How can you argue that when Auron himself also died a violent and unfair death? Not all Unsent turn into Fiends but all Fiends used to be Unsent. You don't want to just be an Unsent because you remaining so is entirely dependent on how long you can choose not to give in to the anger at your circumstance. No one wants to think about the fact Sin nuked them from orbit on an otherwise normal day. But how many people have the wherewithal to just chalk that up to bad luck or unfortunate circumstance on their own? If people could do that, there wouldn't be any Unsent. Because they'd immediately pass on to the Farplane. Meaning every Unsent has something keeping then on Spira and that something will inevitably become a poison that will turn them into monsters given enough time.

Your life ends after high school in nippon

>>719842373
Also everywhere else

>>719835767 (OP)
I would've laughed a few years ago when I was just turning 30, but somewhere between there and 37 I hit the fucking wall and turned into an old man.

I'm 34 and I'm graying like him

>>719839494
Him holding back information about the Final Aeon is apparently part of his plan. The scene that plays as he encourages the party to defy Yunalesca is the most emotion and energy he shows in the entire game, seemingly the moment he has been preparing for. He is apparently of the opinion that the shock of the revelation will be helpful in persuading them to act.
If we go with this explanation, then he also can't tell Tidus the full truth about his father because it would require revealing the truth about the Final Aeon. It's also not clear that Auron himself fully understands what happened to Jecht. As I recall, Jecht and Braska go off to fight Sin alone, and exactly what happens to the Final Aeon after defeating Sin is not fully explained (e.g. why does it take Yu Yevon so many years to assert control and re-establish Sin?).
An alternative explanation is that Auron is ashamed of his past, especially in admitting it to Jecht's son, and his decision to not inform the party should be interpreted as a personal failing.

>>719842370
Auron lived long enough to crawl down Mount Gagazet and get Kimahri to promise to go to Besaid and protect Yuna. He knew the entire time he had to carry on beyond his death to right this massive injustice to himself, his friends and all of Spira. He wasn't just upset his short life came to a meaningless end, he had true righteous indignation that the world was broken and he'd thrown away a chance at trying to fix it.

People that are just killed by Sin or by fiends or random happenstance don't have any of that. There's no period where they get up again as themselves and degenerate into fiends over time. It just happens while their body is rotting in the sun.

>>719836642
Thats normal for 35. Do you think Auron is the kind of guy to have a skincare routine and moisturise every day? He's gonna have wrinkles.

>>719835767 (OP)
I literally look EXACTLY like this and I'm only 30
Even the hair on my chin is completely white

>>719835767 (OP)
something that always stuck with me when discussing FFX back then was someone once said "just add 5-10 years to most of the cast and it makes more sense"

>>719843042
originally it was set in a world where people died at 17 so it makes sense that being old in spira is a luxury very few have

>>719842818
>t's also not clear that Auron himself fully understands what happened to Jecht.
Yunalesca tells the party that the Final Aeon will eventually become Sin. Auron must have known because the collective plan to have Auron go to Zanarkand to look after Tidus relies on him knowing Jecht will be able to take him and then bring him back a decade later.

I'm gonna be honest I wasn't expecting to still be playing and talking about final fantasy like 25 years later

>>719835767 (OP)
Withered ancient by JRPG standards. Hell, Quistis was considered washed up at 18, only fit to train the 16 year olds to become the 17 year olds who would save the world (Tidus and Yuna are also both 17 when they save the world too).

FFX definitely has the type of plot you should not try to think about after it's all said and done.

>>719836847
He knows that his word alone won't sway anyone but Tidus. He had to get Yuna to Yunalesca so she could see and hear the truth for herself, and he needed Tidus to stay with the group to add his outsider skepticism that would shake Yuna's faith just enough that she would question Yunalesca instead of just obediently doing what she was told.

>>719844013
>Wakka and Lulu are still willing to go along with it until Yunalesca basically laughs in their faces at the Yevonite teaching of "if everyone atones for their wrongdoing Sin will go away by itself"
A lot riding on one woman being a smug bitch

35 year old dead geriatric here, it's accurate

>>719835767 (OP)
There's 35 year olds IRL that look worse

>>719844238
Yeah, me.

>>719835767 (OP)
I'm 35 and look just like him; grey hairs included.

>>719835767 (OP)
I'm 38 and I look much worse.

>>719844401
proof please

>>719835767 (OP)
Auron's had a hard life.

>secret location
>one of the most dangerous and creepy areas in the entire game
>has silly cheerful music playing whilst you run around
uhh... what?

>>719845328
>there was a guy who hated Yevon so much he became a huge monster
>also his name was unironically Omega
Theme fits the premise

>>719845328
FUCK FUCK FUCK
OPening this shit gave me flashbacks to that fucking Malboro
Aaaaaa
I still remember the hours lost because of that bullshit.

Sephiroth is 20

>>719843357
Good lore and a good story will do that. I don't think you'll really see the same levels of discussion and reminiscence for anything past XII though.

>>719844136
Luckily that's something you can always count on

>>719844136
>Yunalesca: Sin is an inevitable part of Spira’s destiny. It is neverending.
>Wakka: Neverending? But…but…if we atone for our crimes, Sin will stop coming back, ya? Someday, it’ll be gone, ya?
>Yunalesca: Will humanity ever attain such purity?

Fucking bitch

Ages and birthdays don't really mean anything in videogames, after all Mai was born in 1974.

>>719835767 (OP)
I'm gonna be older than this guy next year. Fuck this gay earth, man

>>719835859
your next line is: "how can they breathe for so long underwater?"

>>719835767 (OP)
Age 35 is when growth stops and aging starts to set in, and you have to step up to the plate because you get all sorts of strange thoughts in your mind like Tingle wanting a harem like Link, but decided on the Great Fairies of Hyrule, and you become aware of all your relationships(specifically, how not to be a creep) and you try to defeat sin to slow down or reverse your aging process.

>>719848367
Wait, is that something weird?
I thought that on their planet, humans could just do that as if it was normal for them

>>719835767 (OP)
they meant 55 but it's ok he's still a cool character.

>>719837202
>Scott Adams
Prime of his life

>>719836642
you must be 18 to post here

>>719847214
I want to learn more about what real Zanarkand was like, correct me if my memory is wrong but wasn't Dream Zanarkand like a utopic paradise version of the real country? True Zanarkand was a warlike nation like Bevelle just focused on magic and summoning rather than technology.

Auron looks a bit older than 35 in his art but in-game he looks better imo. Either way he's the best character in the game for me, and one of the best FF characters ever in general. I really enjoyed his story and his role. I actually enjoyed Tidus quite a bit too, people gave him too much shit because the internet made a meme out of the HAHAAHA scene but he's actually a good character.

>>719848864
Zanarkand was the city of summoners, Bevelle was the ones with the machina war machines. Zanarkand had Yu Yevon to create the Dream Zanarkand Fayth and Sin, Bevelle created Vegnagun. Both cities were apparently idiots since both their ultimate weapons were unstoppable/uncontrollable and would've destroyed Spira eventually.

>>719836085
Based TingleCHAD

>>719848976
the laughing scene is fine, sure its fun as an in-joke sort of way but then people started treating it as a THIS IS WHY JAPANESE GAMES ARE TERRIBLE thing and then it got real annoying fast

>>719835767 (OP)
Yeah that's why a 35 year old looks like.

>>719835767 (OP)
Fairly reasonable for 35. It's hitting the 40 midlife wall, he has the "dad" look which is a look men in their 30's have. Your hair does start changing past 30 to what it'll be when you're an old man. Grey streaks are preferred because they are easy to hide when they initially start and look cooler when they become unhideable.
The other option is to have a receding hairline.

>>719836642
He's also gone through extreme stress (and is fucking dead as well). Real stress not millennial tier stress of being nervous to answer the door for delivery.

>>719848595
>party is thrown into the dungeons
>only the three who have been shown to survive underwater get thrown into the flooded dungeon with no air
Not everyone can do it

>>719849485
i think its more silly that the death dungeon with no escape has an exit

Actually, this is Auron at age 35 when he died. Him appearing old is an entirely performative plothole

>>719848684
He look better a few years ago, jesus

>>719849797
The exit is deliberate. If you survive you get to go free and your crimes are forgiven. It's just also designed to kill the vast majority of people put in because religious hypocrisy.

>>719850003
it doesn't become a plothole just because you say so

>>719836642
you would have them too if you went outside

>>719835767 (OP)
I genuinely have some mid 35 year old asian buddies that have the salt and pepper thing going on since their late 20s.
It's all genetics.

>>719850097
he has terminal cancer

>>719849485
Gonna be completely honest, I thought that was because the rest of them couldn't swim, not because humans on Spira can't just breathe water like a fish

I just embrace the silver fox look

>>719835767 (OP)
The confusing part that even the devs and writers can't explain is that he shouldn't have aged at all since he isn't alive

>>719849797
As the other guy said. It's probably there so that they can execute people that didn't do harsh enough crimes to deserve straight up execution. Kind of like how banishment was just a long twisted way of getting someone killed.

>>719853739
I thought the reason was because he consciously chose to, unless that was just fanon

>>719853739
>>719853963
undeath works differently in spira. its a very spiritual setting. i mean tidus is a fake dream person but he still ages

>>719850003
that is auron at 25
he aged as an unsent

>>719849214
Or you can get lucky, my grandpa died at 80 with a full head of brown hair

>>719853739
All of Dream Zanarkand (wherre Auron lived) ages and has babies like normal. It isn't at all strange or unrxplained.

>>719854067
>a fake dream person
He's an aeon.

Auron looks much younger in Kingdom Hearts II, where he’s directly pulled out of Hades’ hellhole of souls. This is what he probably looked like closer to his real death.
>Kingdom Hearts II isn’t ca-
Everything Nomura works on is canon. That’s the retarded beauty of his storytelling. The shit that goes on between Cloud and Sephiroth even alluded to the Remakes.

>>719854349
Auron's "This is my story" in KH2 was kino

>>719835767 (OP)
I started looking like that at 28. Stress and and alcohol will age the fuck out of you

What if Auron pumped seed into a woman? Or Tidus? What does that make the baby?

>>719835767 (OP)
They just made a mistake. He's actually 45.

>>719854153
>he aged as an unsent
do some unsents age but not others?

>>719854734
>What does that make the baby?
Unborn

>>719854786
I imagine most age but if you are particularly magically gifted you can halt the process or look like whatever you want really. Yunalesca's an unsent pretty sure

>>719854786
Seemingly. Mika is Unsent but no one seems to pick up that he's been "alive" for a very long time

>>719843120
and then that french faggot game stole that idea

>>719854901
She's the daughter of Yu Yevon himself

>>719853739
his been in the land of the dead that ages for 10 years

>>719841323
you are real flesh and blood when you're alive, and when you are unsent your soul is literally reanimated by pyreflies. whether or not you demon out has everything to do with how determined your resolve was to accomplish your unfinished business.

>>719836642
have you reached 35 years old yet?

you will. let me know how your face looks then

>>719854901
I doubt it's the official explanation but my thought bubble was that Auron was intentionally making himself appear aged to mask the fact that he was unsent. That's why his appearance is comically disheveled and battleworn, it's a disguise.

It is a dumb explanation but is in line with Square's tropes.

>>719855010
Yu Yevon was human before turning into Sin's core

Lulu was the exact opposite. She felt like she should've been older than 22

>32 in a couple weeks
>not a single white hair
Man, this sucks. White hairs fucking rule.
At least I'm not balding YET

>>719855543
I thought she was in her late 20s since they made it sound like her and Chapu were together for a long time

>>719835767 (OP)
I'm 34 and I look like this

>>719841629
Did the bazonags called Tidus an idiot?

>>719855543
>has been on pilgrimage twice
>both made it to the Calm Lands
>still thinks that's an acceptable way to dress for such an arduous and intense journey

>>719857415
If she made it to the Calm Lands she clearly didn't have a problem with what she's wearing

>>719836567
This type of character is a JRPG staple

>>719839494
Jecht was all about show but not tell, he clearly wanted Tidus to make his own decisions and knew if just lore dumped the whole worlds situation on him without experiencing and seeing any of it firsthand himself he'd immediately jump to the wrong conclusions about things, he basically let him learn it piecemeal and got a kick out of Tidus going "this shit is fucking dumb" every time the religious laws of the land got brought up

>>719835767 (OP)
it do be that way

>>719857942
*if he just lore dumped

>>719836567
>>719857898
Classic. It's almost always the same archetype "older" guy too.

>>719849797
The exit is so they can claim they gave the executed victims a "fair shot" to anyone that cares.

>>719857113
Yes. Early into FFX Lulu doesn't 100% buy the story that Tidus is suffering from Sin's Toxin. Then again Tidus's story about being from Zanarkand is even more unbelievable. And with Wakka clearly ignoring all of this so he can project Chappu onto Tidus, Lulu finds Tidus very vexing early on. Then again, Lulu eventually warms up to him

>Lulu: Sin is the punishment for, and the incarnation of, crimes we have committed.
>Tidus: Hmm. So, no one really knows what it is?
>Lulu: There’s no need to know, so no one asks. You run or you fight. That is really all you can do. There’s no sense brooding over it.
>Tidus: What, that’s all? I mean, you don’t even wonder?
>Lulu: (Chuckles) You really do come from a world where there is no Sin, like you say.

>>719837086
>loose the color of their hair
And this is an education graphic? Holy fuck

>>719848595
Iirc theres some off line about how they undergo training to hold their breath for extreme periods of time.

>>719858669
yuna trains to be able to breathe longer underwater, but also the water of spira is just weird, likely due to pyreflies. I mean, water doesn't just collapse into a sphere normally.

>thats a japanese 35
i was born 01/04/1988, work outside, and drink constantly and idont look that bad jesus

>>719858794
Lol the Blitzball Stadium Water Spheres were engineered by the Al Bhed. Its like the one piece of Al Bhed tech they tolerate. Spira loves its football

>>719835767 (OP)
I'm 34 and have some gray hair too.

>>719855650
>No white hair still (thank god imo)
>Thinning hair
I used to get so many compliments on how nice and thick my hair was all my life
Hit 30, and that ended. Feels bad. I'm hanging on by prayers here hoping it stops at just thinning. But its not.

Why is he so fucking cool, bros?

>>719859057
finesteride :)

member when jrpgs had sick male characters
nowadays its only fem boys and memes

>>719854787
アンヴァース...

>>719859194
Considered fin/min, admittedly. Just haven't done it.

>>719854787
lol

>>719858952
You think Wakka knows this?

>>719836454
He looks like he's pushing 50.

>>719835767 (OP)
Hello... My name is Auron and drinking has ruined my life... I'M 35 YEARS OLD

>FFVII
>Everyone treats Cid like he some old ass geezer who's basically a fossil
>He's 32, being 3 years younger than Barret
Ages in FF games have always been weird.

For me? The Japanese eager 16-year-old boy

>>719835767 (OP)
When I was a kid I thought he was in his 50s but now that I'm much closer to Auron's age, I think he looks like a hyper fit 70 year old.

>>719858110
In FF7 it was Tifa to be fair.

>>719863974
That was more of a woman moment than anything else even if you are indeed right.
Cait Sith is probably more up to speed, or Vincent if you want to push it.
Honestly a lot of people in your party were unhelpfully aware of shit.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>17
>Quistis is 18
Fuck off with this shit, FF

>>719854734
Auron did, his daughter is in some FFX-2 audio drama.

>>719864790
Imagine being fucked and impregnated by Auron...
He just does one singular big thrust and cums instantly.

>>719839494
He knew that Tidus would have a meltdown and potentially quit and/or try to stop the pilgrimage if he found out, so it was better to wait until he was more invested/committed first.

>>719864960
>Enough.
>Farewell...

>>719855543
That's a man with magic tits