Thread 719846940

Why does no one talk about MGS Peace Walker?

Tiny corridor levels that take no effort to run through. Silent suit + Holding your gun out = Basically stunning every enemy who has their back turned without ever needing to stop moving.
Rocket sponge bosses. Spam 100 missiles and grenades at the giant dumb APCs and metal gears.
Dumb plot that rehashes MGS3.
Otacon clone. Hot Coldman. Zadornov escaping.

It's just lousy all around.

>>719847421
Go fuck yourself dipshit

Huey did nothing wrong.

>>719846940 (OP)
Phantom Pain kinda shits all over it. Funny too, since Peace Walker was shitting all over Portable Ops.

>>719847891
This but unironically. Strangelove deserved death

>>719847421
The bosses were the only weak point desu

>>719846940 (OP)
easily in the top 3 best MGS game
i have fond fucking memories of playing online with randoms on ps3 when i was a teenager.
i remember this one badass motherfucker called Bigboss82. these nigga carried me through fucking boss fights like the monster hunter one and ZEKE this guy knew all the boss mecanics and never would get hit once.
shoutout to you Bigboss82 where ever you are you crazy son of a bitch

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>>719848391
I wish I couldve experienced the multiplayer. I dont even know if the servers are still up for the hd collection port

>>719846940 (OP)
Because it's unmitigated trash

>>719846940 (OP)
I love piss walker, waiting for volume 2

>>719848439
I need amanda

>>719848439
I pick nameless rank & file MSF soldier (female)

>>719848464
I believe they are but I don't think you'll find anyone, i'd look for discord servers dedicated to PW, there's got to be one

>>719847421
>Tiny corridor levels that take no effort to run through.
I hated the VR missions in MGS1 and I hate Peace Walker.

>>719846940 (OP)
now that Delta release are we finally getting collection Vol 2? you think they are going to censor your picrel?

>>719848791
Inb4 they censor laughing octopus's "It's so fucking hysterical" line in mgs4

>>719848791
>>719848885
Reminder that Rocket Studios recently hired The Man, the myth, the Legend: Keiji Inafune.

>>719846940 (OP)
Ain't nobody played PW, people just wached a youtube summary to get up to speed the day before buying MGSV. Such is what happens when you release your game on a meme platform.

Portable Ops and Peace Walker are very good ESPECIALLY for being PSP games. With Analog control they play quite nicely. Portable Ops is the most snake eater-ish and plays like an expansion pack. It's nice to get mroe with the "Gang", but the story feels a bit cobbled together and "everyone went to high school together". But the story does bridge the gap and eplain how Big Boss got into his own units and builting teams rather than running missions for the CIA.

It has only a handful fo boss fights, and they're kinda easy. But as I said, it feels like a nice little expansion pack.

PW is even more ambitious, with a lot of "boss" fights, especially against APCs and helicopters. I for one didn't mind, since I love more grounded fights (Even if these things take insane amount of damage and we know from the Ukraine war that BTRs get shredded by anything that's nto small arms).

>>719849318
shut up child

One day we'll get our Peace Walker remake bros

>>719848607
Kek

>>719850071
I just want it on pc with multiplayer I don't need unreal slop

>>719850071
>implying cucknami has ball to remake this scene
nope john it's dead

>>719850225
they will never do muiltiplayer again, it failed every single time, mgsV's multiplayer flopped hard and their scam "survive" also did.

>>719850234
I just hope they keep doing the trigger warning thing of "this game is offensive, but we are not changing it" and not censor it

>>719850071
Now? I'td be Unreal jank.

If Konami didn't disband Kojima Studios, it would have been perfect follow up to The Phantom Pain to remake Portable Ops and Peace Walker in the Fox Engine. But if remade NOW it's going to be Unreal Jank with terrible performance.

Unreal being the "industry standard" is the worst god damn idea ever. Publishers love the idea of outsourcing to Chinese or Indians, and the idea that individual devs are replaceable, but the trade offs are performance, quality, and a shittier game.

Snake Eater in Fox would have looked gorgeous. Thye already had the Pachinko models and levels already done!

>>719850279
you are retarded and have never played peace walker

>>719847421
>at the giant dumb APCs
You don't have to do that. The APC, tank and helicopter bosses can be defeated with stealth

>>719847421
Kinda retarded that choppers are entire boss fightsnin PW when BB downs one in seconds in Ground Zeroes

>>719846940 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO_5R_DMCJA
KINO

>>719848439
i claim the cunny

>>719850640
They are given unrealistic health and armor in PW like they did in MGS1- and MGS2. Helis and Jets are fragile and a simple rocket will down them.

>>719851180
Kojima is heavily sentimental. Why is Paz treated like some innocent waif who was the vicitm of circumstance, when she was a turn coat double agent who literally piloted a giant mech to fight you? Why are all the fights meant to be "Tragic"? And for all the whining Kojima did that they made a MG game without him, he did rip off the "cute girl pilots a mech and dies tragically" trope from PO and expands upon it.

She's 26, she had her chance, and she made her bed. Let her sit in it. But Kojima is a Japanese man from an era of prosperity and wealth, and hasn't seen real comflict, so he has this overly sentimental and romantizied version of things.

>>719851357
Shes like 30 years old

>>719851429
>Shes like 30 years old

Yeah, Paz is satire. The Kawaii moe waif is actually a cigar smoking psycho 26 year old double agent. The team's cheerleader is their greatest turncoat.

>>719851429
nuh uh
>>719851618
that's stupud

>>719846940 (OP)
It's not very good but it could've been, was hugely held back by being on PSP. Stupid idea to put that there. I love Paz.

>>719851762
He wanted his cake and eat it too. He wanted a kawaii uguu moe anime girl, but also excused it by subverting expectations by making her the final boss. This renders all the previous scenes with her hilarious, since Kojima is having a laugh at your expense.

>>719848439
Whatever did happened to bird girl?

>>719851375
Wasn't she kidnapped as an orphan and forced to serve cipher. this is what the wiki tells me about this game I didn't like and don't remember much about.

I legit thought that Peace Walker was a Vita game. Had no clue it was base model PSP. Crazy how they made a game that good looking on a PSP.

>>719846940 (OP)
Her pussy da bomb

>>719851910
that's not funny
that's doing something retarded, pointing at you, and laughing as if you are the retard

>>719846940 (OP)
it's a shit game. Was a fucken waste. We should have had a real mgs

>>719851913
She went back to France to never be seen or heard from again.

>>719852053
good for her, don't get involved in these stupid ass stories

>>719851945
>Wasn't she kidnapped as an orphan and forced to serve cipher. this is what the wiki tells me about this game I didn't like and don't remember much about.

Yes, but that gets to the silly shit about making Zero the ultimate bad guy and head of some spooky group out to get Big Boss. I think they should have made Zero Big Boss' second in command instead of Miller. The Philospher Remnants would then be "Cipher" and out to get Big Boss.

I met my best friend playing PW in the open

>>719849723
>Portable Ops was so fun. Shame about peace walker shit

>>719846940 (OP)
it'll be the next remake

>>719846940 (OP)
In my opinion it was kinda meh. MGS5 is logical step up on the formula.

>When Big Boss refused, however, Pacifica decided to do the other aspect of her orders: Pacifica had set the coordinates of ZEKE's launch strike towards the East Coast of the United States in an attempt to frame Big Boss and the Militaires Sans Frontières in being an extremist cult,

Reminder that kawaii uguu dindu nuffin was fine hitting a major american city with a nuclear missile, killing millions in the process. I swear to god, she's written like in GZ and PW like the betrayal never happened and sentimental BB is guilty she died.

If she never betrayed them and manned Zeke? Sure, everything in GZ and TPP makes total sense. She was a pure innocent waif, and she was tortured and died. But holy shit she's no better than Liquid Snake or Solidus.

>>719851375
japs love melodrama, they just love it

>>719852625
Solidus unironically wasnt even that bad

>>719852625
Is that how she's written? Seems like Miller and Boss are fine with just killing her if they can't get any information in GZ, they don't seem to care about her much. Otherwise she's just getting tortured and raped all the time.

>>719846940 (OP)
>Why does no one talk about MGS Peace Walker?

Probably just because it was a smaller handheld only release instead of on a major console.

>>719846940 (OP)
Because it's an awful, awful game. I remember playing it on the HD collection a little before Phantom Pain came out as it was one I missed and I was doing a replay of the series. It was such an insane tonal, gameplay and mobile gaming tier decline from the others I couldn't believe people praised it. I remember thinking, "well at least MGSV can't be this bad" only for it to turn out to be fucking Peace Walker 2: Incoherent Boogaloo. What disaster this series became. PW had some nice music though.

>>719850335
>I just hope they keep doing the trigger warning thing of "this game is offensive, but we are not changing it" and not censor it
Didn't they put this warning out and still censor and change things in the game to be more of the times?

>>719852823
>Solidus unironically wasnt even that bad

Do you not remember? His plan isn't far off from Fight Club, but WAY worse. His plan is to hit New York City with a nuclear bomb, which will wipe out Wall Street AND hit any remaining computer system with an intense EMP blast. Thus by destroying the financial hub of The Patriots, he will severely cripple them. He was planning a 9/11 x a million.

>>719852873
Venom is so guilt ridden he has these hallucinations about Paz for the entire game. She is portrayed very sympathetically in GZ and TPP, and we as the audience are clearly meant to feel sorry for her.

Whether Big Boss or Miller care about her is another issue?

>>719852873
BB did show that he cared somewhat reaching out for Paz as she jumped out of the helicopter despite his first instinct at the beginning of GZ being to off her

>>719853107
I saw that as more about Venom rather than her. The last tape of that even says that the Paz ghost is just what Venom thinks and wants her to be. But then I don't think it's that bad to ask the audience to feel bad for her considering her overall life is pretty shitty and no one but Venom cares, and even he only cares about the fake identity she pretended to be.

>>719853425
All she needed to do was NOt get into the giant mech. Not hard to do bitch.

>>719846940 (OP)
Because Kojima fans hate good games.

>>719846940 (OP)
A thought I had that I thought was too stupid to ever voice was that the way a Spanish speaker pronounces "Paz" is somewhat similar to the way an English speaker pronounces "Boss" (the Spanish "a" sounds like an English short "o," the Spanish "z" sounds like an "s", and Spanish "p" is unaspirated like a "b").
Do the two of them have anything in common thematically? Would their names sounding similar tie in with MGSV's language theme at all?

>Dude what if we made monster hunter but with mgs instead!?
It was tolerable for 1 playthrough but im never touching it again.

Peace Walker and V are both awful. Just full of pointless boring tedium. 1,2 and 3 are the only good Metal Gear games. I would say Portable Ops is even better than Peace Walker and V as its not as boring and tedious and has actual human boss fights and its only like 4 or 5 hours long.

KOI NO YOKUSHIRYOKU
HORA GEEMU WA HAJIMARU

>>719854249
>Peace Walker and V are both awful. J

nah they kino

>>719846940 (OP)
cuz it's shit

>>719854249
>>719856053
>PW
>Kino story, shit gameplay
>V
>Shit story, kino gameplay
It's like pottery

>>719846940 (OP)
isn't it a PSP game?

I'm convinced people who like PW and V are lobotomy victims. They're way too easy.

>>719850413
>Publishers love the idea of outsourcing to Chinese or Indians, and the idea that individual devs are replaceable, but the trade offs are performance, quality, and a shittier game.
They love this up until they can't make new games because their 'replaceable' engineer turned out to be the only person who got how movement worked in the game.

The death of the auteur has been a disaster for video games and AI + outsourcing is just accelerating it. We're making no new auteurs who have names for themselves with big ideas and are just hoping to plug n play jeets until all problems solve themselves. The industry can't collapse soon enough.

>>719857546
You can see a parallel trend with movies and TV, where companies like Disney created an assembly line to produce films and sidelined creatives. But the result is slop and eventually audiences figured out and tuned out. Corpos want 100% control top to bottom, and to treat entertainment like it's mining copper or uranium, but this kills the creative process. Passionless slop is easy to spot and it doesn't excite anyone.

>>719856786
Nearly all the games are easy. Only 2 is hard

>>719858560
>If you say all the games are easy
A cheap excuse. The decline in difficulty from 1-4 to PW and V is massive. If the games were already easy what would justify the removal of extreme and ee?

>>719848464
>servers are still up
>>719848571
It is not server based it is P2P so you can always find people and play with them, if you can find people.
Back in the day there was a way to link your PSP to the PS3 and play online via the PS3. I never used it myself though i did 1st play PW on PSP.
I played it mainly on 360 though. That is where I played online.
The HD collection is just reusing the raw PSP game and the online is just like using ad how local on PSP.

>>719856786
>>719858741
WTF are you talking about.
PW was a bitesized mission structure that had a certain power creep. That was the difficulty.
You couldnt just S rank the AIs from the get go you needed to S rank other missions, build you base and improve weapons.
Eventually you get to a point you have shit like the fulton gustav and can just run around snatching up vehicles and soldiers and S ranking it all but the whole idea was an endless grind.
Its like you misunderstand the game.

2 and 4 are the only hard MGS games but S ranking all MGSV missions is a challenge too.
3 is a fucking cake walk and 1 is basic.

>>719859078
Grinding is not difficulty. I'm sorry you got lobotomized.

>>719858741
>what would justify the removal of extreme and ee?
For multiplayer reason and they likely didn't want to bother adjusting the difficulty for every single mission. V has a difficulty mode in the form of the revenge system anyways

>>719859338
You are literally retarded and dont understand the game.
If you cant S rank the missions because you get killed or cant damage the enemies quick enough, that is the difficulty barrier you retard.

>>719859728
Strawman. Nobody playing extreme/ee in 1-4 is having difficulty whatsoever getting S ranks in your baby games. They're just getting bored instead.

>>719846940 (OP)
A reminder that Boss sexually assaulted this child

Best sneaking suit

>>719860329
I prefer the Russian Sneaking Suit

>>719852971
Only change seems to be Eva's jiggle physics, and that can be excused in-universe with real life fake tits from the 60s not being very jiggly at all.

>>719846940 (OP)
Locked in a console no one bought.

>>719860687
It was ported to PS3

>>719851910
>by making her the final boss
In her underwear. Wanting to have his cake and eat it too is exactly right.

>>719860960
>hey I'm not a weeb anime otaku pervert... I'm doing it IRONICALLY

So like us more or less.

>>719859889
*sexually liberated

>>719846940 (OP)
>grind materials to get the true ending
It's shit.

I liked the aesthetics of everything in it far better than any other kojima game.

>>719853107
Ohh nooo not Jew York Shitty

>>719850071
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>>719861115
no

TWO bomb in bagina

>>719861115
A snook in her snizz

dnt forget frens. best way to play peace walker is with the superior hd edition. https://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=29020

>>719861360
Or you can just play Peace Walker HD on RPCS3, with proper dual analog aiming, improved controls and fully working online.

>>719861481
the issue with peace walker hd is that they made everything easier due to it not being a portable game anymore. they stripped all the psp features and removes a lot of the extra content. the psp version is still the best and most authentic way to experience and play peace walker. and that hd pack transfers over every single thing from the official hd edition of pw. but also fixes everything they messed up and missed out on. ppsspp also has working online as well. along with right analog and fps patches.

>>719861739
>they stripped all the psp features
Yeah, because you can't carry PS3 or 360 around to find wifi networks as you walk around.
>and removes a lot of the extra content.
Vocaloid service was active for like 1 year and almost no one used that

>>719846940 (OP)
Great story, gameplay is a little underwhelming, episodic made it a pain, and it felt way more comical than mgsv, this game almost feels like it was made for kids, almost

>>719856224
MGSV gameplay is just watered down Peace Walker

>>719863043
enhanced in others, watered down in others. PW is the "full" potential of enemies, bosses, vehicles, etc. But V has better controls and motion.