Thread 719856156

Listen well, ye sword-worshippers and axe-apologists, for the truth is this: the halberd is not merely a weapon, it is the apex of melee combat, the perfection of human ingenuity on the battlefield. To deny it is to brand yourself a fool.

A sword? A sidearm. A lump of steel for duels and posturing nobles. An axe? Fine for splitting firewood, but hardly for the armored knight bearing down upon you. A spear? It has reach, yes, but little else, press too close and it’s as useful as a broomstick. But the halberd, ah! The halberd is a trinity of destruction.

Its spear point pierces armor.
Its axe blade cleaves through mail and bone alike.
Its hook drags knights from saddles, tears shields away, and leaves the proud wallowing in the mud.

Do you see? It was not simply a tool but a doctrine, a philosophy of war. Swiss pikemen and German infantry wielded it to humble knights, to turn the battlefield from aristocratic theater into the age of disciplined formations. Kings feared it. Empires armed their guards with it. Even stripped of blood, the halberd remains today a ceremonial symbol of authority.

And yet, some mutter, “But what about swords?” Fools! The sword was never the main act, it was the last resort, the fallback when your halberd broke or your line collapsed. If you marched with only a sword, you marched prepared for death. The halberd was for those who intended to win.

So cast aside your fantasies of dragon-carved daggers and sacred katanas. Embrace truth. Embrace glory. Embrace the halberd.

For in the hands of the worthy, the halberd is not a weapon.
It is the end of arguments

Me like big sword haha
*bisects you cleanly with one overhead swing*

S C H Y T E

>>719856156 (OP)
Swordfags seething

I don’t like the spin R2
In Elden Ring. Only in Elden Ring.
But Elden Ring has ones with better R2s so idc.
Gargoyle Halberd better.
Ooh, ooh! Lucerne! That’s a good one.

>>719856156 (OP)
swag axe is the most mechanically satisfying and generally sickest weapon i've found in all of video games

>>719856414
>>719856598
You cant make me like halberds
ILL NEVER LIKE HALBERDS

For me? It's the biggest and most comically sized sword I can get.
And if it's paired with a comically big shield, better

>>719856156 (OP)
I feel like replaying DS3
What are some weapons that have a superior move set in that game over elden ring
Fucking ER has less soul but goddamn it has good animations

>>719856978
At least DS3 is actually replayable. ER takes fucking 100 hours just to get a build going.

>>719857023
I just cheat engine the weapons I want to use at the start now
Also modelswap if I want to use something that has good moveset but looks like shit

>>719856978
twin weapons, so drang hammers, drang twinspears, onikiri ubadachi whatever its called, gotthards, twindaggers, twinaxes
corvian scythe is cool you can headshot with the weaponart
farron ugs
the dlc weapons so crow quills, talons, frayed blade, gaels gs, aquamarine dagger, crucifix, friedes scythe
any of the greatswords with stance since that's not in elden ring anymore. the stock rapier is actually pretty nifty because it has its own stance weaponart.
parrying with katana is fun too.
valorheart using jump attacks a lot if you are good at executing that or you can set up a keybind for it
any of the weapons with charge in ds3 because ds3 charge is way better. so great lance, lothric spear, halberd
demon scar, heysel pick, so basically any of the weapon catalysts
ringed knight weapons
onyx blade, twin prince gs
old wolf cgs, harald cgs
demon greataxe
black knight weapons, especially the r2s on the ugs and greataxe
spiked hammer
demon fist
whips i guess

theres 0 games where a halberd functions as a halberd.

I love games where I can use the bow as a melee weapon with combos and stuff. Too bad I can only think of like two games that does it

>>719856810
Stop resisting

>>719857298
Wdm?

>>719858960
>opens with a jumping attack
nobody used a halberd like that in history except for lu bu but it wasn’t a halberd it was some other shit

red hilt halberd best halberd. love me perseverance

>>719856156 (OP)
anything from monster hunter

>>719856810
surely you like the crucifix? it's literally a roulette machine stuck onto a halberd

>>719856532
I love it but it was pretty lame pre world because you only use sword mode most of the time but it really get a huge glowup in rise

>>719856156 (OP)
But I wanna pancake people.
I can't pancake people with your stupid pointy stick.
But I can pancake people with the big sword.
So I'm gonna use the big sword.

>>719856156 (OP)
I just think swords are the coolest weapon.
Especially big swords.

>>719856532
I never liked axe mode on Swaxe. I never liked charge blade until the pizza cutter was added. Yeah I just placed Lance I’m not even gonna hide it.

The switch axe is my wife, and I love her dearly

>>719856156 (OP)
AEK is better. Who can argue with 900rpm?

The rapier, perfect for styling on fags without resorting to weebshit, a true gentleman's weapon

>>719856156 (OP)
luv me claymore
simple as

>>719856156 (OP)
Fists, I want to punch the fuck out of everything.

>>719860635
Rapiers have been utterly replaced by katanas as the pop culture sword for nobility and weaponmasters, frankly. Stabbing motions just don't look that cool.

>spear weapon
>expect to poke everything to death
>main attack combo includes retarded sweeps
I PICK THE POINTY FUCKING STICK TO POKE, NOT TO SWING IT LIKE A FUCKING SWORD!

>>719856156 (OP)
Big hammer cronch puny Halberdier!
Blades are obsolete when you can OBLITERATE yur target into a mangled heap.

>>719862845
Based.
Lucerne > Halberd

>>719863059
>Can parry
>Can spear
>Can hook
>But can also CRONCH with the force of a semi truck!!!

>>719856156 (OP)
Fiction for this feel?

why is there input lag with elden ring?

>>719863436
It's the developers way of adding "commitment"
It sucks

>>719861258
there is literally no weapon more boring than a spear that only has pokes.
it should have sweeps, overheads, spinning and even vaulting attacks.
FUCK hema-fags and FUCK realism

>>719861258
How would you even make a spear badass? I want to include them in my fantasy setting because of their historical significance, but really the only moveset I can come up with is "Stab > Stab > Stronger high stab", "charge forward with the spear" and "jump above an enemy and plunge the spear into him". That's a pretty meager moveset for a weapon type.
Come to think of it, the entire point of the spear is that it is so easy to use that every random peasant can just pick one up and use it effectively so building a large army of decent spearmen was super cheap and before stuff like tanks and explosives quantity beat quality in warfare.

>>719864774
The spear is a HEMA weapon though. When going after rule of cool, there is no reason to use a spear over a glaive, naginata or halberd or poleaxe. Spears only exist to please HEMA enthusiasts.

>>719856156 (OP)
>Its hook drags knights from saddles, tears shields away, and leaves the proud wallowing in the mud.
name one video game which lets you do this

>>719865715
>When going after rule of cool, there is no reason to use a spear
unless, of course, it looks cool
they're slimmer than other weapons but still have the option to pierce unlike a staff

>>719866069
Half Sword and Exanima if you are really good at them.
But I think those are the only ones. Maybe Blade and Sorcery and Gorn too?

>>719866069
Also CDDA has "Fior Di Battaglia", a martial art based on using hooking weapons.
However, CDDA is an autist game with no real combat animations and not-so-great combat gameplay, sooo...

>>719856156 (OP)
yes that sounds very cool now give me a game where all those aspects of the halberd are in it's move pool

>>719865715
>When going after rule of cool, there is no reason to use a spear over...
I want a high speed spear action, let me go Cú Chulainn on my enemies

Nothing beats an impractically large slab of steel if you got the power to wield it

>>719867640
Why not go the full wqay then and place 20 metric tons of steel on the end of a very long pole for maximum carnage and obliteration?

>>719867903
Ai that woks too

>>719859529
based...

tentacles.

>game has shields
>blocking is always worse than dodging
>can't bash, push or punch with the shield
>can't defend while attacking
>can't protect your allies
Why don't they ever get justice

>>719864774
That's why Nioh 2 has the best implementation of the spear
>high/low/multi stabs
>sweeps and spins
>leg sweeps that knock over humanoids
>charge attacks
>throw attacks
>vaults and flips
>grabs and pins

>>719869882
SHields do not really make sense in video games because combat works fundamentally different in games than in real life.
In real life, it's usually one attack and you are dead or at least downed and lose the fight so a shield to parry and deflect attacks is absolutey vital if you do not have full plate mail (which only 1400 - 1600 rich noble knights had).
In video games, you can tank 10 strikes from a weapon and be fine, so having more powerful two handed or dual wield weapons to kill the enemy faster is more important than shields.

>>719865715
depends on how "fantasy" your setting is. Dynasty Warriors has amazing spear movesets, but they're completely over the top. For more grounded fantasy, I guess try and get the feel of "300" but ramp it up as far as you can go with it while keeping it within the grounds of reality.

Something that I don't think any 1st/3rd person does is making spears interesting by combining it good shield play. Dragon's Dogma 2 has really fun shield play as a fighter, but he can only use a sword with it.

>>719870395
Nah, there are games where they do some kind of conjunction move in which you attack while simultaneously dodging/parrying.
That should be the foundation for a weapon&shield style. Charging your way in to poke them at the same time you block a hit.
Games have devolved into just parry-riposte slop with no more nuance to the counter-offensive styles.

>>719856156 (OP)
What if you put it on the end of a rifle like a bayonet

>>719856598
>2 pixels hp left
Very nice.

>>719861258
>spear moveset is almost entirely swings
>there's literally only one attack in the entire moveset where you use the fucking thing properly and stab with it
Fucking Nioh

>>719859931
I hate what wilds did to it so much.

*ahem*

>>719861258
>It's somehow shorter range than the shortsword too
>It can only be wielded two-handed

>>719869882
>Why don't they ever get justice
??? Elden ring has the opposite of points 2 to 5.

>>719869882
shields were retarded op in 1 and for most of 2 and then good again in elden ring

>>719871118
Valorheart and Dueling shield my beloved

For me, it's pick related.

>>719877141
>pick related
>pick
More like "pig related" and the "pig" is you, dumb ESL!
Oink oink, motherfucker!

>>719878382
I just woke up. 4chan has really harmed my ability to quickly choose the right homophone.

>quick R1 attacks during untricked modes
>tricked mode gives your attacks some safe distance
>charged R2 knocks down/interrupt most enemies during trick mode
>tricked regular R2 is a overhead attack
>tricked L2 is a deliciously fast swipe
>tricked L2+R2 will trivialize most humanoid enemies
>amazing rally potential
They give you the best weapon in the entire game for free and in the first minutes of gameplay, lol.

>>719856156 (OP)
longsword always and forever. So iconic it embodies human history. The main weapon of god.

>>719878882
>tfw beat the entire game + dlc as a kid not knowing how to use lock on and spamming fully charged r2s
spin2win

For me it's the funblade, the best of both worlds

>>719856156 (OP)
For when the night, and the dream are long.