Thread 719861697

Okay they're cooking with these designs

>>719861697 (OP)
Deadlock tongue my anus

>>719861697 (OP)
Only Mina, Doorman, Victor and Drifter is good

not playing unless there's a character that plays like magik from rivals

why aren't there any melee characters in this game

Found out from a voiceline today that Dynamo is Pocket's godfather.
Neat.

>>719861865
Because lasthitting creeps

>>719861865
There are, but it's a shooter with high movement so everyone needs ranged attacks. It's like asking why there's no melee in counter strike. Yes you can knife or zeus, but shotgun is more appropriate for what you want
(hence why abrams and drifter have shotgun primaries more or less)

>>719861776
Billy is my favorite of the bunch. I've seen complaints that he's not more goatlike but it just being the head, implying that whatever devil deal he tried to make he got screwed on, really displays in the design alone that this guy is an ineffectual fuckup.

>>719861697 (OP)
Where is it my deadlock invitate? Please, give it to me now. I demand to give to me.

I finally found a match up that fucking destroys Victor: Fucking every burst damage hero at once. Sustain through 6 separate instances of 500+ damage you walking corpse.

>>719862417
Bloody benchod show to the invite to me

>>719862314
His outfit and voicelines are the problem

>>719862551
I love the voice lines. He's not as good as Vyper but I love the shittalk and rants

>>719861697 (OP)
finally a titty monster

>>719861697 (OP)
notice that they are all white

>>719862736
>gingers
>white

>trump wins an election
>suddenly they go from gay niggers in space pozzed designs to big titted cuties and attractive white dudes

Every woman in deadlock should have bigger tits

>>719862636
>>719862887
I'm not seeing these big titties you speak of

>>719862815
the purest of the whites
nigger

>>719861697 (OP)
Coming up, no updates for another 3 months

>>719862917
>Very pronounced chest even with a large coat on
>No big titties
ok bro

>>719862917
theyre right there

>>719862887
Valve pivoted from Neon Prime to Deadlock before 2024.

>>719862429
Any gun build standing over 8 meters away beats Victor

>>719862924
Based ginger enjoyer detected. Next you’re gonna tell me albinos are the final tier of whiteness and start rating people by sunlight retention.

>>719862887
>zionniggers want credit for anything
release the epstein files or fuck off

>>719863039
nahhhh albino's are an anomaly
they are not welcome in agartha

Flopping tranny deadcock.

>>719863026
Outside of Vindicta he can catch any gun build so staying 8 meters from him is not an option

Were there any positives from that leak at all, or did it cause only harm?

>>719863391
Which leak

>>719862551
Yeah I mean why is he punk and not 'rockabilly'? It'd fit more if he was a greaser for the timeline, but it's still out of place

>>719863684
The one anons mention in tf2 threads whenever someone mentions uncle dane.

>>719863391
Harm, game was clearly not ready. If leak happened after they deleted 4th lane it would go much better

>>719862887
anon these are literally just tumblr designs circa like 2014

Holy shit I really hate MOBAs what the hell is the appeal of these games?

>>719864210
When the stars align and your shitpost build works, it shoots dopamine so quickly.

>>719863987
I think it was an overall positive, because it got people to play the game and signaled to Valve to keep going, whereas it was in a rough spot during that leak. That said, that period of time focusing more on matchmaking and minor balance changes was pretty bad, I like more the major map updates and model stuff.

>>719861776
Paige is fucking great, she insta-wins any teamfight.

How is Gunbop these days? I've had my fill of the new heroes (Victor is everything I want in a tank hero).

>>719863042
why werent you demanding the epstein files during Biden's presidency?

>>719863873
search punkgoat in wikipedia

>>719864518
need to replace "i am nerdy dorky cutey" oversized glasses

Deadlock is Artifact 2 all along!

https://youtu.be/Ruj42i-lIc8?si=fbtp8rGHkMIkTASl

>>719864652
he still would have been on the list. lock them all up.

>>719864916
>Artifact schizo might have his tournament after all.

>>719862887
He also rapes children so that probably has something to do with it too.

>>719862429
maybe it's because they nerfed him bigly like 10 hours ago

>>719861697 (OP)
Game is shit though

>>719864916
What the fuck is that

Progression system

>>719864652
But we were, and you should stand on principle and DEMAND Trump do the same, the only one who changed here was your FAGAtard

>>719861697 (OP)
I can't tell it's objectively well executed.
But from my subjective pov, it's unappealing.
It's drenched in furry and feminist influence.

>>719867089
Separate gamemode.

>>719867229
>feminist influence
uhh

Anyone else have an irrational hatred of massive glasses like these and anyone who wears them
Immediately makes me assume the person must be an insufferable conceited shit

>>719864916
>sorry we forgot to delete artifact codes from source 2

>>719862314
>implying that whatever devil deal he tried to make he got screwed on
Actually he has a voice line where says people were trying to kill him since he was in the womb. Probably implying he was born with the goat head.
The little doll was something he either made or was gifted as a little kid too. So he's been goat headed for his entire existence. No wonder he has such a seething hatred for everything.

Hell Yeah I reinstalled cuz of these

Mina

>>719868104
That's pretty different then, poor guy. Maybe one of his parents sold their firstborn son to a devil or patron etc., but the entity wasn't really interested and just forgot about him, or some eldritch politicking distracted/killed the entity before Billy was fully transformed

>>719866250
and the people you'd vote for dont lol

>>719861697 (OP)
Ivy, my beloved wivy

>>719868316
yeah everyone seems to think he's just pretenious ledditor analogue but in reality, he's more of a neglected kid, ignored and treated with disdain by the world around him.
>The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth

Priestbros, soon.

>load into game
>circuit goes out on the very first frame
>banned from the game for a day and banished to low priority matchmaking
Fucking nigger

mina my beloved

You can tell Valve really pivoted from the wokeshit. All the characters that are old assets from Neon Prime are ugly wokeshit (black woman amputees, Shiv with his retarded wooden arm, strong womyn feminist)

>>719868174
Vampirebat.

New patchnotes rework Doorman's ult so you can't escape through gaps tanking/counterspelling damage. You just teleport to the beginning of the hotel now.

>>719861697 (OP)
>game is still the mosr unbalanced mibs I've ever played

>>719871176
>cant counterspell damage
I thought they only stopped early escapes

>>719871176
you can use invuln or counterspell at the end of the duration, but if you aren't fast enough to reach the exit it's a guaranteed 6 seconds out of the fight

>>719871276
>>719871342
Well yes, but with counterspell you are still better to just escape early through the gap to fuck up whatever the fuck enemy setup on the other end. Plus it fucked up key animation.

>>719871402
they removed escaping early through the gap and it teleports you back to the start if you try

>>719861697 (OP)
Im so goddamnejuxysd bad at this game.

They’re cooking fraud.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

>>719872156
Thoughts about this, Artifact schizo? >>719864916

>>719868174
sex

>>719868174
I would let this woman ruin my life.

>>719872275
Doesn’t expand on Dota 2’s lore, doesn’t continue the story of the Vhoul Rebellion and Battle of Roseleaf. Not interested.

>>719861697 (OP)
t*mblr tranny tier

>>719864518
Give her split shot, rescue beam and echo shard to let them know how caked up you are.

>>719868174
What a terrible excuse for a vampire. She sucks both blood and cum? That's awfully embarrassing

>>719868174
Drifter is better

>>719872473
>battle of random jungle creeps and treants is a selling point for artifact schizo
Actual legitimate autism, lost respect all of a sudden

Damn Doorman is savage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck6qTx0gS5M

>>719861776
Billy is the Goat

>>719864606
I dunno how he is statistically or objectively or whatever, but I think he's strong because I got my ass kicked by one the other day
Yes that's my whole reason for thinking so, no I'm not ashamed

>>719872449
t. Pocket

>>719861697 (OP)
Since i've come back to the game i've only been losing.
Everyine knows exactly what they're doing and i can't even farm anymore for some reason.

>>719871176
based biased dev.
the horrors of the baroness must be enjoyed by all.

>>719872156
holy shit. we found the one artifact player. youre him!!

>>719861776
I don't get Victor, isnt he just Abrams but higher risk?

>>719868454
IVY LOOK OUT!!!!

>>719867916
i can see mina's thighs you know

>>719874852
His weapon and spirit damage is better.

>>719868454
She really isnt

>>719875163
>sdimb o?k
What the FUCK did she mean by this

>>719864606
dunno. do you like jazz?
>>719861797
thats just billy

I enjoy playing Viscous.
It's somewhat weak and I lose quite often but it's still fun.

>melee counter is now +30% all damage instead of just +50% melee damage
Is there any actual point in doing melee builds now if counter is so bad?

>>719875184
>slide dick in my butt, ok?

>>719875401
He's not really weak
He's more of a all rounder. Does everything decent but not really exceptional at anything.

>>719875450
yeah, wigging your enemies out so they parry early and then using your melee
the melee exclusive items have a cooldown and other items that melee characters buy like point blank work on your gun.

Objectively? No
Why bother putting all that effort in wasting souls and playing mindgames with parries when you can just invest in normal gun builds that will let you shoot from range and won't insta lose you the fight just because the enemy pressed f

>>719874918
>*presses 3 before duration ends*
I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT

Viscous can punch all enemy team at once with 4 charges and 10 seconds cooldown.
He is the ultimate melee character if you think about it.

>>719875874
I always miss my punches though

>>719875746
why was this retarded wc3 gargoyle got nerfed 100 times despite never being good?

>>719875919
You'll get better eventually if you keep trying.
Also expanded AoE helps.

Would you guys rather they
>Fix/Finish old characters stuck with neon prime designs
or
>Focus on making new characters.
Yamato looks so fun but I'm not playing a character with a lighthouse shaped forehead

anyone miss solo lanes?

>>719875007
Imagine if she'd wrapped them around your neck and squeezed haha

>>719876052
no
I always had to go solo lanes because my pussy teammates didn't want to 1v1 the shiv and then for holding him off 7 minutes I was rewarded with a rape squad from the duo lane

>>719876009
They objectively need to do new models sooner or later.

>>719876226
That they do. My hope is that they put out priest in the next 2 weeks - month and then start gradually making lore appropiate designs. Shiv, Yamato, Grey Talon, Bebop... probably more but I can't think of the others.

>>719861776
Victor and Drifter are by far the weakest concepts in the entire roster, what are you talking about

>>719876423
They aren't putting out a new hero by itself in one month when all the other big updates have been three months apart.

>>719876052
absolutely not, the game is miles better now

>>719876009
I am literally the only person that will miss Neon Prime Yamato model when they finally rework her
>>719876052
What I don't miss is niggers from dual lanes coming to my solo to double dip on shared souls and sending devs into a spiral of changes ultimately ending in removal of solos. Fuck tryhards, why must you ruin everything

>>719876472
Usually I would agree but Priest was meant to be in this patch and was cut at the last minute, so there's hope?

>>719861697 (OP)
>cooking
How about I cook you alive wigger

>>719875184
>start digging in your butt, twin
-spongebob squarepants

>>719876423
Bebop is fine but 3 other need new models. But the new model they work on is Viscous

>>719876180
>>719876538
>>719876539
>t. dota reject got outskilled in lane by fps chads

>>719876052
I do. It's a shooter. Let me click orbs and duel enemy fairly. I will take team fights when I am ready.

>>719876460
Write a book about a contrarian guy with a goat head or a bookworm girl. Reply your sales in your next post.

>>719877916
What does double dipping on exp has to do with being outplayed in a lane? What does griefing exp gain because you showed up in my lane has to do with being outplayed in a lane? You're not making any sense.

the designs are incredibly mediocre

>>719876849
Soon bro

>>719878370
I can see the inspiration, bazz was one of the most influential character designs of the decade

>>719878419
Please god let them rethink this one
please god do not let this one go live

>>719878419
Good to know Valve is finally putting those blob physics to good use.

>>719878419
I hate this.

t. Viscous enjoyer

>>719878370
Don't almost all of those characters look different now

>>719878370
they need to fix Holiday's face imo, and turn the black girl into Cleopatra

>>719879165
Ehh, I kinda like her off face honestly. I think it really captures the dead inside look of someone desperate for revenge.

>>719862887
Trump was reelected because the shift already happened, he literally never caused anything positive. How much can someone love old demented cock?

Shame they REFUSE to address the dogshit matchmaking

>>719878370
>release 4 heroes with a blogpost admitting that they have a much higher degree of placeholder art than usual as an experiment
>get feedback that people hated them
>spend 6 months on the next set of characters and polish up some proper designs before releasing them
what's the issue here?

>>719876002
no one argues she was never good, she just used to have more equally viable builds

>>719861697 (OP)
I dont like moba shit games but yeah they got some pretty good style
Vampire bitch, Velma in green, Bellboy
I really like those

>>719861697 (OP)
>Okay they're cooking with these designs
A little too much. The old cast feels bland and boring. I struggle to find 3 additional characters to pick. Legit none of them are fun anymore.

Don't forget to respect Pocket's pronouns.

>>719862887
The funniest thing is that the lead art designer for both Neon Prime and Deadlock is Russian who hates US and wants return to Russia to raise children

>>719881094
What's stopping him?

>>719881306
Money. It is currently impossible to work for big studios and live in Russia.

>>719881421
damn so the US is such a shithole it employs him at a good rate?

>>719876564
no he wasnt, dude wasnt finished and neither was boho

>>719881460
I won't argue with you and just list everything he complains about in the interview
>Lots of homeless people
>Terrible smell
>Crime
>Terrible food
>Everything is expensive
>Awful healthcare
>A lot of nonsensical bureaucracy
>High taxes
>Boring architecture
>Unending work

>>719882163
... America or Russia?

>>719882323
America

>>719882323
kek

eh
wake me up when the priest arrives

>>719881094
I'll correct myself: he's not a lead art designer, he's a character art designer

>>719878419
This is awful
Just ass
He goes from a silly little guy to a pedo looking motherfucker, edit a loli beside him and you’ll see what I mean

>>719880537
The new cast is so strong I actively forget Lash is a genuine threat until someone competent is playing him

>>719878419
>>719882784
I think he looks like the fat guy with the ice cream from lilo and stitch

>>719882860
>I actively forget Lash is a genuine threat until someone competent is playing him
Bottom elo if lash isn't the only actual threat in any game

>>719861865
>t. has 30 minutes total playtime

>>719882753
>>719881094
Who was it that designed these six new heroes? Especially Mina?

In all my years I have never seen Valve design a hero like Mina in any of their games until now.

>>719882323
>Terrible food
>Everything is expensive
America.

>>719883040
Usually end up with 3-4 of the enemy team being the new characters and the others being so outshined by them it surprises me when a legacy character comes out swinging harder than anyone else, watched a Vindicta execute a Doorman, parried him then quickscoped his downed ass, motherfucker ragdolled a good 10 feet

>>719879437
>he literally never caused anything positive
Space Force.

>>719861697 (OP)
The Nameless One?

>>719883502
Vasili Zorin but we don't know for sure who designed each character
>In all my years I have never seen Valve design a hero like Mina
Before Valve he worked on Overwatch and Sunset Overdrive. Citadel/Neon Prime/Deadlock is his first project with Valve

>>719884527
>Overwatch
Which heroes?

>>719885021
He worked on concept art for the environment but also mentioned in some concept art for D.Va (probably also environments)

>>719885021
Zarya, obviously

>>719876052
Nobody misses getting Dynamo/Ivy and having to 1v1 Mirage or Infernus
Solo lane was shit.

>>719878370
Vyper personality mog all of the new characters still, calico is just some sweet baby inc abortion

>>719886563
>Zarya
She was designed by some chink like most of Overwatch

>>719886618
nothing's stopping support cucks from switching to duo lane

>>719887463
Guess solofags just don't matter, huh?

>>719881094
He wants to star in a drone video so his kids can get a bag of Doritos each? I will never understand what drives the Russian

>>719887936
At least he can leave his country and don't have to run away from the kidnappers party buses lol

>>719887936
Living near the people that look like you isn't something that unusual. sorry for your retardness.

>>719888287
I take it he looks like a stunted Nork gook or an Uzbek then

Are they overpowered?

>>719889882
They’re underpowered if anything

>>719889882
>Mo and Krill out of NOWHERE

>>719861697 (OP)
I haven't played since September last year, I noticed that there's little aggressiveness during the laning phase compared to older gameplay. I mean, I could push up to tower and get a kill or two over the 7 minutes but now everybody stays behind and I get anally raped and the entire game shifts to their side permanently.
Did the meta change to severely punish early PvP?
What other meta changes are there? >Minions are 200% more valuable than jungling?
>Sinners Sacrifice is crap now?
>real PvP happens after laning phase at 15k-ish souls?
Warden main btw. Feel really useless until 20k or so.

>>719890419
if anything the opposite happened, before playing safe and securing last hits would let you get ahead in the laning phase, but now both sides end up getting around the same souls since you only need to stay in the radius, so winning relies on getting kills or the guardian

>moba
why can't it just be a normal team based shooter

>>719890419
Laning phase is more about BROOLING now and zoning out the enemy.

>>719891661
Because there are a billion of hero shooters and practically no new mobas. There are just dota, league, smite and all of those are old as fuck. The new shit either looks like carbon copies of league or is dead on arrival uninspired shit (March of Giants)
Deadlock looks actually good, let us have this one.

Goatbros I really like Billy but I'm sure all the fanarts are probably just furry homo shit

>>719891661
Because both are oversaturated genres and Valve wants to try and see if combining the two is interesting

>>719891661
Because MOBAs were supposed to be a unique offshoot of RTS that got stale and stayed stale for 20 fucking years now, let them try something with it

>>719890419
>I noticed that there's little aggressiveness during the laning phase compared to older gameplay
blatantly wrong, the securing game is so automatic that you are mostly just brooling in lane, at most farming out-of-lane quickly
>Minions are 200% more valuable than jungling?
true, they always have been more important than jungle anyways
>Sinners Sacrifice is crap now?
no they are so good that not getting them on cooldown is essentially throwing
>real PvP happens after laning phase at 15k-ish souls?
no

>>719891895
this is good though

They need to depict clearly sinners sacrifice on the map

Thank you for feeding 20 / 0 Doorman, Kelvin

>>719895509
they have their own icon wdym

>>719878370
Calico looks kino as fuck in her ingame portrait.

>>719861697 (OP)
I have played 6 games and I have lost all of them. Everyone has too much health by the end and I am doing 0 dps

>>719898317
That's nice. I lost 10 games in a row due to feeding russians. I'm queued up for another right now.

>>719861697 (OP)
I HAVE BEEN SICK A FUCKING WEEK AND I AM STILL SICK!!! IT IS MAKING ME PLAY WORSE!!! I FUCKING HATE BEING SICK !!!!

>>719861797
literally billy but billy's kit is farm more creative

>>719898317
you are building wrong then, or playing supp?

>>719861776
4/6 is still pretty good retard

>>719861776
Billy is extremely fun. You are just upset because he makes fun of your culture, amerigroid.

>>719889882
They can be pretty fucking annoying if your team plays solo.

>>719878419
All you had to do was to open the damn door, CJ!

>>719861697 (OP)
>Okay they're cooking with these designs
Yeah, if you're the kind of faggot that's into Redfall or Concord.

>>719899770
>pictured: zero blacks
bot post

>>719891661
>normal team based shooter
do we really need another one?

I could not for the life of me tell you what Vyper is meant to be doing in this game
>skillshot is a mediocre slow and nonexistent dot
>venom requires you to stand directly on top of enemies as a squishy character
>slither feels terrible but is mandatory to not die immediately
>bola is a skillshot with venom's range, stuns but this is like making mccree's flashbang his utl
>gun feels like shit but thats every character at this point
>not a support
>does not snowball with items
>most of her abilities dont function with effects like poison, lifesteal, etc

>>719900354
Does Valve really need another moba?

>>719900393
stop playing the undercooked character friend

>>719900506
But it is not a normal moba either so your argument falls apart

>>719864652
We were, retard.
That's why I voted Trump, he campaigned on releasing the files.

>>719900921
What argument

>>719866250
So why isn't there any child beauty pageant hero yet?

>>719900506
It doesn't even play like any existing moba.

>>719901187
Hear me out

>>719900393
>gun feels like shit but thats every character at this point
They do that to make doing a gun build not be overpowered right away, apparently Doorman’s gun is disgusting when built around but his abilities are too fun to not build around those instead.
I’ve seen Vypers do really well once their gun is uplifted from dogshit tier

Its fun but there are way too many items and some have really stupid gimmicks.

someone post the swastika Doorman please, I wanna show it to my gf

>>719903590
Thank you
She smiled

>>719861697 (OP)
theres something about Abrams being voiced by Samoa Joe that scratches a niche itch in my brain, like Tim Curry in Red Alert

>>719903771
I miss his old gun sound. His current one sounds generic.

>>719903771
This except it sounds like shit and horribly out of place. If you are going to make a 1920's gumshoe he probably shouldnt sound like a fat nepo hire in a dying industry. But then most voice acting in this game is really fucking bad.

Sam & Max feels like it would fit into Deadlock

There are already too many heroes where their passive from shooting enemies is 90% of their gameplay.

Its so funny playing in low MMR and a single guy who has figured out the movement, and is basically a god for the whole match because nobody can ever escape or chase him.
Especially when its a Viscous.

Rat Ivy still continues to be one of my favourite builds.

>>719903771
>Got a Lash on my team
>he kills Abrams
>turns full Steiner on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI6jZeHc3ZI
And that's how I learn Samoa Joe is Abrams VA. Both Lash and Viscous players get so in the role its the best.

>fire SBI
>make 10/10 character designs
Why they even bothered partnering with SBI to begin with will forever be a mystery.

>>719902065
Sure but it feels like it comes with all the exact same points of contention that plague the genre

>>719862887
Why do all woke black characters look like this?

How many heroes of the original cast do you think are pretty damn close to a final design?
Seven is just perfect to me, I can't see his design changing much.
Maybe higher quality textures or a slight change to the face at most.

>>719900921
true, it's FPS; hobby-grade coop campaign; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic Deadlock Heroes!

>>719902065
It's Smite adjacent, for sure.

>>719904568
>Why they even bothered partnering with SBI to begin with will forever be a mystery.
rumors have it SBI would just blackmail notable members of studios by threatening their PR, basically bulling their way into the industry.
SBI getting dragged under a bus in full view awhile back broke some of their leverage on people.
Valve on the other hand probably just did what they usually do and snagged the 2 people that had on staff of worth before telling them to kick rocks

>>719904712
Ivy, Vindicta, Dynamo, and Geist seem complete since they got updates. Most of them seem to have a look locked in and just need to be polished.

>>719904568
I doubt they were seriously planning to release Neon Prime. Basically every Valve game has gone through several different designs. Even when we talk about Deadlock it originally started out as a Half Life game.
Unlike other companies it's nothing unusual for Valve to simply change the style and even the essence of a game in the middle of development.
Well and what the other anon said. The only difference is that this is fairly reliable information, not just rumours. Blackmail by various niggers and women is real

>>719904712
Viscous is a pretty good final look to me, REALLY hope they dont go with >>719878419 , just touch up whats already there and he'd be perfect

>>719889882
They are a mid character but their mains tend to be crack

>>719904712
Seven is one of the questionable ones because his design is just a slightly modified version of Neon Prime one

>>719868174
I need to draw more vampire brat, give me ideas for the weekends.
https://files.catbox.moe/ckkkk5.png

>>719905145
Maybe, but they translated the design so well to the new art style that I can't think of him as anything but a burn victim criminal with a tesla hat.

>>719905145
This is proof that a concept can be made good or bad by aesthetic intention. Seven looks amazing and tells you so much just by his design. This looks like a level 45 trash NPC in a factory level of a MMORPG.

>>719861697 (OP)
drifter needs to be removed from the game

>>719905049
>Viscous is a pretty good final look to me
>just touch up whats already there and he'd be perfect
His current model is just green astronaut from Neon Prime.
There's no chance he won't get a completely new model

>>719905145
his Neon Prime design was probably one of the few that wasnt hot ass, have you seen Ivy? holy shit

>>719905428
Ivy was Tengu, wasn't she?
The real shame was Dynamo, he used to be a fat sumo that used to bang drums for singularity.

>>719905421
they already changed the portrait to a different concept after people didn't like the tourist one that leaked

>>719905421
Shitty.
As long is it isnt that child molester fatty fat look people keep posting, I'll stay optimistic.
its well known Valve employees shitpost (note; Shitpost, not shill) here anyway

>>719868454
>Love monstergirls
>Been loving Ivy as a character for a year
>Get back into Deadlock
>Finally try to play her
>She's fun as fuck to play

>>719904712
Seven will get the Abrams treatment. Aka overall increase in quality and fidelity without significant design changes.

>>719905428
It looks awful but let's be honest these are literally unfinished rejected models. Shitting on them is pretty pointless considering that they are now just part of history.

>>719905723
how did this disgusting thing end up becoming my wife

>>719878626
That's not the first scrapped datamined Viscous model. Before, it was pic related. I actually really like the coral gun, but he character model's vibe doesn't match the character dialog's vibe at all. Same with this one >>719878419. Dude looks like Dynamo.

>>719904476
Doorman, Lash, Viscous and sometimes Billy players get really into their characters
>stop selling drugs behind the Hotel Drifter, Yes we know its you

>>719878653
The final version of Viscous better splatter into goo on death. Valve used their portal tech for Doorman, so they might as well use them gel tech for Viscous.

>>719861697 (OP)
>ASSFAGGOTS
miss me with that shit

I hope with Bebop's redesign they don't change much of him, maybe tone down the japanese stuff. I liked his appearance in the Geist VN.

>>719905537
wtf? ppl didn't like the tourist remake? i like it and it makes sense thematically and is just funny

>>719905929
I actually dont mind this one, it makes sense a little guy trying to save the world from unseen horror from the deep would make himself a giants body. although I really do like the base one theyre using now, hope they just touch it up a bit

>>719906085
He's a fucking robot right now. He is one of the characters who is guaranteed to undergo many changes, on par with Yamato

>>719906095
there was one autist who sent in a 40 page essay because they didn't like how it removed his cute eyes

>>719861697 (OP)
>Moba
Doesn't matter what they're cooking with when the main ingredient is diarrhea.

>>719875163
>Slap her ass
>Break your hand because it's solid stone

>>719906197
He is canonically a scrap golem, and other magitech automata already exist in the game (troopers and objectives), so I don't see this as an issue. They'll probably just make him look more scrappy.

>>719906095
I also like the idea of tourist Viscous, it makes sense for his character (being from the deep ocean and this is his first time on land) but the actual execution of it looks like shit. To me, I feel like Viscous shouldn't be fat, his voice does not fit a fat body at all. I feel that he needs to have a round fishbowl head, just like how he does now. I also don't like how Valve seems to have scrapped the idea of viscous being a small sea creature piloting a goo body like in this picture >>719905929 instead of him just being sentient goo.

>>719907049
I think it's because the one they showed us looks way too modern. I dunno what a tourist from the 50s would look like, but I don't think it would have looked like how they showed it.

>>719906197
Bitch please, they've settled on him being a scrap Robot and that's fine for a magitech setting. Besides, I love the relationship he has with Ms. Shelly.

>>719907503
Ms. Shelly is black, by the way.

Speaking of Bebop, fucking love this voice line
https://youtu.be/vK8FfpYGJmw?t=163
For those not in the know, Bebop's voice actor is Anglo-French.

>>719905191
draw her with large breasts and body hair and as an adult

Viscous has friends :D

>>719909563
No, Viskoos.

>>719864728
She actually had those teardrop shaped ones that were trendy in like the 40s nd 50s at first and they looked really bad on her. Like not even bad like less attractive, there was something about them that just looked off.

>>719909725
She was also way older.

Slork my beloved, I hope one day you return.

>>719910158
He's the only hero labs hero that got Doorman ult lines. Him and Raven's model/voice have the best chances at coming back I'd say.

>>719910158
For me its The Boss

>>719910252
Corn pop Aka Shiv better watch himself.

>Hey, what should our doorman character be?
>Oh, an elder god that got bored torturing humanity and wanted to try out serving them and seeing how that goes
Whoever came up with this was genius.

>>719911086
>so quirky and random xD
Reeks of Sweet Baby writing. Valve obviously rescued it by good design and a good voice actor, and played his serving role straight rather than full of sarcasm and lampshading.

>>719861776
>Drifter better than billy
Lol drifters kit is the most cookie cutter dota shit ive seen in this game so far

>>719911682
Yeah, he's just the archetype that Bloodseeker and Nightstalker falls into.

I really hope this game will be successful because I can see myself enjoying it for a long time and looking forward to updates. I'm excited about the new characters because even the most basic and straightforward ones feel much more unique and interesting than 99% of stuff from other MOBAs and hero shooters

>>719912005
Knowing Valve, they'll abandon it after a few years, regardless of its success.

>>719912293
Valve's got a decent track record for game support though? Underlords and Artifact flopped despite their efforts. TF2 may be on life support, but they still at least bother keep the servers running (Because mann co. store makes them a shit load of money), L4D still has its' servers running with excellent community tools and DOTA/CS is well... DOTA/CS.

>>719905191
could be scissoring with paige?

>>719882163
What interview? Link etc.?

>>719913696
https://youtu.be/wHTA-fTou_I?si=hvhoVp39LQ1Bf1TN

>>719904568
who/what is SBI?

>>719914682
Sweet Baby Inc. That consultancy group that made everything lame and gay for a lot of games.

>>719915097
I thought that was blackrock

>>719900393
You just slide forever and abuse infinite ammo and firerate-based bullshit to stack poison on people.

>>719915231
Blackrock was the investment side, SBI was a consultancy group that made sure that it fits what Blackrock was pushing.

>>719911682
even if he's similar to a dota hero, the fact that deadlock is a fully 3D cityscape instead of a flat RTS map with ramps makes his stuff a lot more engaging, literally chasing someone through alleys and teleporting behind them from 2 blocks away doesn't feel the same as it does in dota even if the function is very similar

>>719915309
This, basically Blackrock demanded ESG and DEI to get continued funding. One way to show Blackrock that you're doing that is to hire one of the myriad of grifter DEI groups, and SBI just happens to be one of the bigger ones.

>>719911331
That’s how concepts work you mouthbreather

>>719882163
Oh right, Valve is in Seattle. There's your problem.

>>719906095
It’s too fat, maybe if he was still slim it wouldn’t be as bad but he’s definitely too large for his voice, a big bulbous guy sounding like that doesn’t sit well, that and they’ve left him sit for too long, a massive overwork like that isn’t going to be well received at all by anyone that’s grown attached, maybe if they kept changing him every couple months his players could settle but it’s a “Beauty & The Beast” situation now

>>719917137
He worked at Blizzard and other companies before that.

>>719917354
>California
Same difference

>>719882163
>>Unending work
Isnt he working for Valve?
The studio notorious for laziness and hands off upper management? Did Gabe shove his boot up his Russki ass when he thought a MOBA/ThirdPersonShooter was a cool idea?

>>719911331
Are you brain damaged?

>>719917428
He is referring to the overall lifestyle, not working in a specific studio. To be precise he describes it as ‘a hamster wheel where you can't stop for a second’
>he thought a MOBA/ThirdPersonShooter was a cool idea
He is an artist.

With some of the slapdash Neon Prime models, how would you imagine they would update them? Kelvin has the right direction but needs something to make him fit the explorer and dead guy thing more.

>>719911331
>this idea was bad until it was good
woah
It’s like that’s how presentation works and all ideas are very bland when written in short form posts meant to summarize things on a forum

You retarded fuck knuckle.

>>719917729
vindicta got a pretty good 'ghost' glowup, she looks ethereal and has a delayed frame of movement with her hair or something, didn't pay close attention to it. either way yeah he needs his own ghostly glowup but what they did to vindicta was good so i assume it's on the way

you guys are getting baited by the artifact shitzo again
how fucking mad is he gonna be when he realises they readded artifact to deadlock and there's a full card game you play between games otw

>>719917729
Grey Talon needs an update but I'm afraid they'll make him too grizzled. Him being an old normal looking Native is great. The one that someone posted a while back with him being bald and with a beard didn't fit at all.

>>719917947
But her feet sucks now. Valve needs to fix that.

>>719911086
I like he did it as a bit and just ended up enjoying it, probably had some nefarious bullshit planned and being called a retard by a rich guest for not picking up their bags in 0.3 seconds probably left him took aback for the first time in centuries, ended up liking the sensation of wanting to rend some guys skull into powder but couldn’t and just had to grit his teeth.
Guys probably a masochist when I write it out, God-like being that hadn’t felt being put down his entire existence
>hey dipshit bellboy, grab my stuff
>this is great actually

>>719918215
Grey Talon grew on me. I hope they don't change him too much.

>>719918215
I enjoy all the Grandma CoCo art he gets

>>719861697 (OP)
When will there be more heroes/reworks? I'm tired of alien head Miku Guinness.

You think they are going to do Halloween skins or the Winter skins again? I'm looking forward to what type of outfit doorman gets.

>>719918750
Soon™.

>>719905723
I do wish we got to see the concept art for this, doubt the finished model would look that great but there has to be something there that convinced them to go ahead
>3 inch toenails
Get the fuck outta here

>>719918575
this
if the grandma coco meme dies with the rework because he doesn't looks like grandma coco anymore, he's dead to me

>>719918810
this design is so peak i really hope they go with it

>>719882163
Sounds like he's complaining about Seattle, and not the US as a whole, which is a sentiment many Valve employees share.

Gee whiz, a major city full of crime and homeless? That's what you get for voting democrat...

>>719904170
>in low MMR
>enemy Mina has figured out how to use her escape options
>watch 5 people fail to chase her
Low MMR is a magical place, Im slowly leaving it with every match and that playful innocence is draining away.
Laning against a Haze and a Wraith pretending they knew movement was adorable, they’d spend all their stamina doing weird movement trick shots that did 20 damage then die

>>719919129
He lived in several cities including some rather small ones.

>>719918810
I will really miss the penis head look

>>719862551
>voicelines are the problem
I thought Valve didn't implement the cringe lines

>>719918810
Found this while scrolling through Yamato art. Some of these fan skins people have made are fun.

>>719918810
I unironically prefer the conehead over this pling plong nip nong shit like dial it back at least a little bit especially when the gooks are just white people for some reason

>>719883883
I've never in my life heard about anyone say anything about Russian food.

>>719861697 (OP)
Doorman my bf

>another moba
What were they thinking?

>>719876052
Solo Lanes were never a permanent thing. You can even see in the Neon Prime trailer it was 3 lanes to begin with

>>719920002
>TF2 and Dota were money printers
>Let us merge them and print more money

Dynamo, Seven and Victor would such pains in the ass if there was a control points or King of the Hill game mode.

>>719920002
Valve has obsession with dota for some reason. It's not like its democracy or anything. Valve will just make another game that they will abandon and get carried by their steam bucks as usual.

>>719861697 (OP)
so what is the reason for not making the game F2P? fomo? if everyone sees how dogshit it is it'll die like artifact even after updates come out?

I haven't played in a year. Why do the patrons sound lame now?

>>719920246
retard
It's f2p

>>719920246
It is F2P though? You just need to get the beta invite.

>>719920246
The game is and will be f2p.
They never wanted a public release this early. If it wasnt leaked by Uncle Fat last year, nobody would know Deadlock even exists besides data-miners.

>>719920125
let's combine the fun of a nonsense shooter with autistic minmaxing moba gameplay and random teammmates who ruin your games
so it's for sure dead on arrival? that's why it's limited to key invites?

>>719900354
It works for gachas.

>3.5 million people have played at least one game of deadlock
>only 50k ccu after big update, less than 20k for 6 months before that
>retards are somehow convinced this game will be a huge success
What is it about Deadlock that inspires such retardation? The same retards will tell you how innovative it is when it's just DOTA2 with guns or how it's icefrog's passion project when it's been in development hell for 8 years and the theme and aesthetic of the game has been overhauled 3 times.

>>719920364
There is a part of me that is glad that Groomer Dane leaked it, because a lot of feedback has been given by the community and course corrected certain decisions.

>>719920380
It's because the game is still heavily in progress.

>>719920416
ironic valve fanboys who clap for cosmetics and knife unboxings and dont know what half life even is and think valve made garrys mod

>>719920002
Nobody has made an actual moba in eons other than a few indie league clones.

>>719920447
At least his butthurt came to push the game into a more live enviroment giving it a better chance of support from the community

>>719920416
It´s actually different from both ASSFAGGOTS and hero shooters where tanks are just a role and no a winning factor

>>719920416
>knows everything about the game, even the tiniest of details that the average player has no idea of
you love to hate it succeed, and you'll seethe when it actually releases and takes over

>>719920416
games not out yet man

>>719920380
You know anyone can get an invite right? Also knowing Valve they will add custom maps, servers and all that shit like they have for every other game. That's why it is in development phase you moron, this is them feeling out the core gameplay.

>>719920416
Deadlock threads are echo chambers for a bunch of retards who don't even play their shitty game.

>>719921153
>Also knowing Valve they will add custom maps, servers and all that shit like they have for every other game.
literally the deathrattle of TF2 is them ignoring servers and adding matchmaking trash
the delusional modern valve fanboy

>>719920934
>noooo it's going to be a big success
>y-y-you'll see
Everything points to it being a big flop, it's following the exact same release path as DOTA2 with a fraction of the success

>>719920990
>games not out yet man
3.5 million people have access right now

>>719900393
I think the incentive is to slide around and do damage with your infinite ammo, but one small mishap and your entire mag is gone because the character has no fucking ammo.
The gun damage is honestly not that good and they feel more like Slark or Weaver who are just great escape characters more than anything.

>>719920990
why lock it behind easy obtainable keys? what's the point?
it's just fomo, if the masses had instant 1 click access without any key gatekeeping it would die harder than artifact once everyone realizes it's not TF2 or Dota but a retarded bastard child of both with slightly higher quality concord designs

>>719921391
>it's just fomo
It’s not out yet man

>>719920002
>moba but different from all others and also a shooter and great movement
Leave and never come into my thread again

>>719921284
>The deathrattle of TF2 was a function no one used 15 years after the game was released
Custom servers still exist and there isn't a fucking valve game that doesn't have developer tools, custom servers and a community around that.

>>719921391
Because we saw the result if the masses got their hands on it: Valve started to focus on BULLSHIT rather than finishing the game and polishing everything. The period of time focusing on the e-sports matchmaking and dumb crap like that instead of the maps and models was horrible. The only people who should be playing right now are the ones willing to give feedback on the game.

>>719921391
of course it's fomo
they are trying to boost player counts rn for some reason
hence the recent 6 hero getting unlocked with votes
they certainly don't want game to stay unpopular for a long amount of time no matter how many times delusional echo chamber dwellers spam "it's beta bro" in these threads

the game is effectively out, cope and sneed

>>719921528
>The only people who should be playing right now are the ones willing to give feedback on the game
so bootlickers and esports faggots who are never happy if their main isnt s tier? glazers of this slop should just go back to fapbaiting with the gargoyle, game literally has nothing else going for it

>>719921391
because it's a playtest retard-kun
it's not ready to be presented to the general public and it doesn't have anything to charge money for
they still have like 30 hero art passes left to go

>>719921649
>so bootlickers and esports faggots who are never happy if their main isnt s tier?
You fucking niggerfaggot, I was obviously talking about the people that are willing to dish actual criticism of the game and the direction it was heading in, hence why the massive overhaul in lanes, souls, map design, items, art style etc. etc. etc.
Betas don't exist to be full fucking games I would wish people would stop treating them this way.

>>719921659
then why does everyone say it's easier to get a key than fucking your mom?
fomo faggot
nice beast x hellboy design btw, valve is really utterly bankrupt on original designs today arent they

>>719921353
>big flop
nah, people that play suck its dick and praise it endlessly and for good reason, game is sick
>3.5mil have access
no download button on the store page, word of mouth exposure, access by friend inv only
it's going to be fuck huge because it's a good base, being built up by a good dev. whether or not it's the paradigm shift in mobas/hero shooters some people expect remains to be seen but it's definitely going to be huge

>>719921749
because it's a game you're supposed to play with your friends, so they let you invite your friends

>>719921739
>I was obviously talking about the people that are willing to dish actual criticism of the game and the direction it was heading in
I was too, bootlickers and esports faggots are the only ones not criticizing the actual design of the game being a dogshit moba
how about you tell valve to take a hint from marvel rivals design or they'll join artifact in it's grave with this kinda gay slop in the game >>719921659

>>719921849
What's wrong with a demon detective? Based on other posts, you hate the base idea and that's fine, but I want to know what is offensive about it. I still think the model needs some more passes to meet the level of the new heroes, but I don't find anything wrong with the base concept, especially with the setting being "1950's new york with magitech and occultism".

>>719921849
>see large bearded man
>immediately think of homosexuality

>>719919883
stroganoff fucking owns

>>719861697 (OP)
a turd lasagna is still a turd lasagna, if you're gonna play an unoptimized mess, play marvel rivals because at least it has sex appeal

>>719921764
>nah it's good because retards suck its dick
great argument
>no download button on the store page, word of mouth exposure, access by friend inv only
DOTA2 was exactly the same but the playerbase grew instead of declining.

Any wishes for future updates to the hideout? I hope we get more trophy stuff like the winter snowglobe.

What should I rebind dash and crouch to if I want to be a fast boy?

>>719922252
A proper 1v1/skirmish gymnasium that you can access through the elevator would be cool, the practice room is a bit small for that.

>>719922252
movement course of some kind, artifact card table to challenge friends with inbetween matches already been leaked in some capacity, having the current matches projection screen actually show matches without loading into the game (probably not possible). a radio dj going over recent news/patches/lore in a sultry suggestive voice, deb of the night style

>>719922006
it's easy to spot faggots, it's like looking at maggots

>>719922298
caps lock is a good underused key

>>719922251
>playerbase grew when they decided to open the flood gates
wowee what a fucking brainiac you are, you got me it's just like dota 2! Except it's still INVITE ONLY

>>719922675
>Except it's still INVITE ONLY
so was DOTA2 and it didn't lose 90% of it's players you dumb fucking retard, it had 400k daily players while it was still invite only, it was invite only for 2 years and grew the entire time.

>>719922252
theres entire sections of empty bookshelves and that top right area ghost Drifter was hanging out at, maybe they use it to tease future characters again

>>719923210
are you comparing a game based on a pioneer in the genre to a generic hero shooter with assfaggots elements?
it's a literal mutant bastard child with the worst qualities of a team game and the autism of mobas requiring full adderal comms in your circlejerk discord call or suffering

>>719861697 (OP)
Still gay.

>>719921849
embarrassing post

Are Drifter players really like this?

>>719923676
that drifter isnt dead after attempting a 3v1 so no

>>719923210
>huge established ip vs. passion project
>the same old thing everyone's used to vs. new genre defining thing
>salivating hungry (and dejected) playerbase wanting more finally gets it vs. starting from scratch with NDA'd playtesters
we didn't know dota 2 closed playtest numbers, but even I.. a complete dota noob at the time was getting put into games with pros and streamers so i highly doubt it was 300k. also, yeah how could those numbers be so different, i wonder... what a disaster, what are they thinking.. oh wait basically the entire steam userbase or internet has little to no idea this thing exists yet and it's early release was because of leaks and not hype. nigger the "hype" hasn't even happened yet.

I wouldn't put it past Valve to sporadically throw their hands up and radically change the game to not be a moba anymore sometime before launch. Kinda hoping that happens.

>>719924031
it's already been leaked that multiple modes will exist, including a card game, a vn, a cart push and potentially a RoR2-like

>>719924031
I don't see that happening.
What I do hope are shorter matches.

Any advice on farming efficiently? I do well in laning but once team fights start I feel I start to drop behind everyone unless my team is rolling.

>>719861697 (OP)
>cut ties with SBI
>game improves

well what do ya know

>>719924031
they have infinite time&money they could just ouright cancel the entire thing if Gabe gets bored, Hope not but Valve is weird

>>719924031
>icefrog game
>suddenly not being a moba

>>719924089
Woah, that's badass. Hey maybe this game becomes a big deal after all.
>a card game, a vn
What the hell, I'm invested now.

>>719905929
Wish this was the one they went with. Reminds me of Reuniclus

>>719924020
>huge established ip
???
>the same old thing everyone's used to vs. new genre defining thing
???
>salivating hungry (and dejected) playerbase wanting more finally gets it vs. starting from scratch with NDA'd playtesters
???

>we didn't know dota 2 closed playtest numbers, but even I.. a complete dota noob at the time was getting put into games with pros and streamers so i highly doubt it was 300k.
we have the data retard, notice how line go up not straight down?
>oh wait basically the entire steam userbase or internet has little to no idea this thing exists yet
3.5 million people have played deadlock, 1% of those are playing right now, lmao

>>719899468
He has a fucking goat head

>>719924089
>RoR2-like
does that rumor exist just because they hired the Risk Of Rain devs?

>>719924552
>playercount obsessed tranny
ofc, i should have known from your first post you were mentally ill, also your graph is showing less than 100k for dota 2 until 2012.. which is when they opened it, so nice argument sis

I have underestimated how fun Sinclair is, I kneel.

>>719924758
>w-w-which is why they opened it
The same way they opened deadflop a year ago
>also your graph is showing less than 100k for dota 2 until 2012
deadflop had less than 20k for most of it's lifetime, lmao

>>719861697 (OP)
Trash

>>719925162
>didnt deny being a playercount obsessed tranny
LOL

Valve please have some introspection. You are Seattle söyböys, your taste is abhorrent to everyone by default. Recognize this and second guess all your wokeshit, ugly worship designs before implementation.

>>719924552
>steam charts
dont do this to yourself, its not healthy

>>719925274
>I just can't even
concession accepted

>>719924675
there's some weight to the rumor when you realise the items fit in really well with the concept

>>719925338
The only designs I find boring/offensively shit are Yamato (Placeholder) and Callico (Fucking shit). The rest range from "Obviously in progress" (Shiv, Vyper etc.) to "actually well designed" (Seven, Ivy, Geist, Dynamo etc.)

>>719925552
yeah, but so would nearly every MOBAs

>>719924089
Seems like the game will be bloated as fuck. I wonder how Valve would maintain such a game with so many features in it.

how do i get a vyper gf to stab me in my sleep

>>719864652
Migatards are literally brain damaged holy shit

>>719926891
Just be Lash