Thread 719864861

>>719864861 (OP)
Too bad Silksong isn't a good game design in any way

>>719864861 (OP)
you can open game in unity and change health values

>>719864947
I played it for an hour
It's pretty good.

>>719864861 (OP)
You have to be mentally ill to play video games this way.

Anything under 30 hours is Flash-tier and irrelevant as a videogame.

>>719864861 (OP)
I bet $20 he's been speedrunning it to the most available non-canon ending he could get just to show off on twatter how "short" this game is.

>>719864995
why did u think he brought it?

>>719864861 (OP)
>play the game all the way to the end
>never touch it again

slopvania players unironically love this?

>>719864861 (OP)
True end?

I spend all day playing games, even while working, and this is some real loser shit lol.

>>719864975
it feels AI generated-ish

>>719864861 (OP)
>7 years in development

>>719865013
I might be wrong but I'm 90 percent t sure he's done this exact thing for other games.

>>719865013
he does it to pump out boss videos for youtube

>>719865054
On the contrary. He's probably speedtrannying it as we speak.

>>719865237
It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o12rR9eF4-U

>>719864861 (OP)
how the fuck did they need 7 years for a 16 hour game.

>>719864861 (OP)
dude played 16 hours straight? get a life man

>>719865287
>>719865237
How does he do it for so many games?
Does he just cheat or is the guy just that good and autistic?

>>719865013
He already 100%'d it and has a video with all endings up on Youtube.

Disgusting

Imagine the smell

>>719865343
if there's no stream, assume cheating. goes for people like ONGBAL too

>>719865356
>>719865287
This is not the real final boss btw

>>719864861 (OP)
>walksim: indie edition

>>719865013
16h is extremely short. Stop coping fanatic.

>>719865287
even ff16 combat looks more fun than this

>>719865469
It's 16 if you are rushing it like a moron to pump out a video.

>>719865457
You are a retard.

A game really shouldn't longer than 6 hours anyway unless you pad it with "random encounters" or walking between places. I imagine this one is mostly backtracking.

>>719865469
hopefully it gets a remake by a more competent studio who can make it longer

anything under 50 hours doesn't deserve to be called a video game

>>719864861 (OP)
>68% completed

>>719865693
Where does it say that you coping tranny retard hahahaha

>>719864861 (OP)
>16 hours
>one sitting
holy shit touch grass, assuming you don't faint on the way to the door

Sitting on your ass for 16 hours straight is extremely unhealthy. I hope you guys aren't doing that.

>>719865770
>>719865853
unc

>>719865287
>rushing to finish a videogame as soon as you can so you can be the first to post a video about it
You are not enjoying it anymore then...... if you do it with this anxiety on your back.
I can understand when a game really takes you, but I doubt is the case here.
>>719865569
So you don't like RPGs,WRPGs,JRPGsCRPGs,RTS,grand strategy,4X ,management, simulation,Sandbox games,Tower defense, MMORPGs and a lot of the best platformers and FPS games?

>>719865874
hemorrhoid andy

>>719865907
I forgot to include Adventure games and point and click games.

>>719864861 (OP)
"completed" looool

yeah right

>>719866003
most adventure games and point and click games are short as fuck, you can probably clear the entire Quest for Glory series in an afternoon

>>719865853
I usually get up to steal opioid painkillers from my parents cabinet when they go to sleep

>>719865287
Nigga this is literally just rehashed Radiance, what the fuck? I am glad I refunded this garbage.

thank you for the twitter update

>>719864861 (OP)
This Genre is Backwards as fuck

>>719864861 (OP)
i’ve been getting farmed by every single boss / group fight at least 5 times
its been like 9 hours and i dont even have double jump yet

>>719865096
Only if you’re a retard

>>719866384
It’s not the final boss lol

>>719865874
Shut the fuck up nigger.

>>719865427
he streamed the run.

>>719865321
> I've never made anything of worth in my life, ever

Please continue with your unneeded opinions.

>>719865012
30 hours is the perfect length, I don't want games filled with unnecessary padding

>>719864861 (OP)
I didn't even bother to finish the first game.

>>719865683
> I'm a NEET with no other hobbies or interests

>>719864861 (OP)
>7 years of waiting for 16 hours of gaymeplay
Lmao based. Hollowtrannies btfo.

>>719867331
Was it the true end then?

>>719865343
Might be more than 1 person
Or he's just very dedicated to his job, his videos always get tons of views because he's always among the first to finish games

>>719867296
the game ends after this thing dies so it's a final boss

>>719865343
It is literally his job. You can play a lot of video games when its the only thing you do the whole day. And he does not waste his time shitposting on /v/ either.

>>719864861 (OP)
Game is disappointing, expected more so I refunded this shit.

>>719867635
No this is the normal ending. Like beating the hollow knight in hollow knight.

>>719865356
The endings are video files. You can just extract and upload them.

>>719865343
>being this bad at games
>you have to ask how it's possible others beat games when you don't

>>719867364
go back to red.dit shovelware fanatic. Games are shitty entertainment and arent worth anything.

>>719865321
Laziness?

>>719865321
Handcrafted background and design made by 3 people.
Takes up a lot of time

>>719866384
The whole game is just rehashed first game

>>719864861 (OP)
So people weren't wrong calling this a glorified DLC.

>>719864861 (OP)
>20 bucks for 16 hours of Good game design seems like a good deal
Nope.

Even with the rampant inflation, the bar is still at $1 for 10 hours.

>>719865013
It being $20 downplays that narrative and there's no actual hardcore speedrunner yet that can craft a >4 hour game
one (yet)

>>719868395
The first game(vanilla) was like the same length

>>719868331
It’s not

>>719868897
What's new in it, then?

>>719868918
you play as a girl
which is poetic because you transitioned since hk came out

>>719864861 (OP)
I'd rather pay $90 for 5 hours of mid!
https://youtu.be/x6ZG6d74gA8?si=CtGzJvB6B6JSPGwY

>16 hours
>one sitting

>>719868918
Gameplay, characters, story

>he never played a game for 16 hours straight
so this is what /v/ has become

>>719869089
Gameplay is literally the same. Even pacing is same. Story and characters don't count as "new".

>>719869476
>Gameplay is literally the same.
Nope

>Story and characters don't count as "new".
You are a retard.

>>719869513
What is new about the gameplay then? The diagonal attack? 7 years in development, lmao.

>>719864861 (OP)
>so much hype for a shitty mario clone
kek

>>719864861 (OP)
Less than a dollar an hour isn't a good value.

>>719864861 (OP)
>good game design

It's one of the worse modern metroidvanias. Metroidvanias that have been released since HK are running laps around both HK and Silksong.

>>719869550
Like, her whole movement pool is different to that of HK's MC

>>719869682
Like what

>>719869732
>fast attack
>long forward attack
>dash
>wall jump
Yeah, completely now movement in a completely original non-rehashed game developed for 7 years.

>>719864861 (OP)
And dropped
Hk1 was 100hr long

>>719865012
This
Under 30hr game don't deserve to sold imo

so is this a new game or just bloated dlc?

>>719865064
Not the same thing, this game makes bank off his YouTube channel and playthroughs

>>719864861 (OP)
Sounds like the bad kind of autism and NEETness.

>>719869863
Ender Magnolia, Blasphemous 2, Bloodstained and Nine Sols spring to mind. But there are way more. It's been 7 years so there are tons.

>>719869936
He cheated, i already played 70 hours and didnt reach the end. Please support Team Cherry so we can get even more gems like Hollow Knight Silksong.

>>719869872
that's twice as many attacks as the first game

>>719870015
Nice try shill

>>719865012
Max payne 1-3
Dishonored
Sekiro
System shock
MGS3

are all less than 30 hours and still kino

>>719864861 (OP)
Retarded modern gamers don't care about replayability. Just dollar per "new" "content" value.

>>719869863
Nine Sols

>>719865013
Cope

>7 years for a 16 hour campaign
Ahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahah

>>719870140
Modern games have little replayability

>>719868963
>you transitioned since hk came out
I am not a hk target audience tho

>>719870220
And whose fault is that?
https://www.derekyu.com/makegames/risk.html

>>719864861 (OP)
I'd actually play this game if it was only 16 hours. I fucking wish the first game was that long.

>>719870140
>Retarded modern gamers don't care about replayability
The game must be at least one of those - RPG, sandbox or competitive.
Otherwise, 99% of people won't replay it.

>>719870212
sir, we just had tens of millions of dollars, not billions like rockstar.

>>719865012
Depends on the game. 25 hours is the sweetspot usually though

>>719870140
People work hard to earn money
You must be one of those neet fag who still live with their parents

>>719870212
Not only 7 years. 7 years + already developed basis for the game. They were flipping assets for 7 years.

>>719870006
>>719870171
Spotted the furfags. Fuck off

>>719870957
Nine sols is Kino, shut up

>>719864861 (OP)
The original Hollow Knight took me 25 hours and I felt it was too long and was ready to be done with it.

>she (male) waited seven years for just 16 hours
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>719870534
>earn money
Games today are extremely cheap(constant discounts, bundles, subscription services), available(no need for physical media) and easy to get for free(internet in general). They "compete" over players' time and disk space, not money.
>>719870373
They'll "re"play plenty of gacha and other grindy shit.

>>719865096
Your arguments feel AI generated

>>719865158
>>719865321
>>719867616
>>719869550
>>719869872
>>719870212
>>719870951

I don't know how 7 years is relevant.
It's a $20 game t
hat's all that should matter.
Who cares if the devs spent 20 years making a 2 hour game, as long as it's good for its price point.

>>719870957
>throws shade at people for a game with some anthros
>defends a game featuring literal bugmen

>>719864861 (OP)
>20 bucks
>16 hours

>>719871245
>if the piece of crap is not expensive, it's fine to eat it

>>719871245
>Who cares if the devs spent 20 years making a 2 hour game, as long as it's good for its price point.

Price isn't relevant, quality is.
I can easily afford to buy a bag of shit for 5 bucks, but it's still a bag of shit.
A game should feel like the time you spent on it was well spent and enjoyable. I'd rather pay 40$ for a great 20h game than a 20$ 40h game that was mediocre and felt padded.

>>719871387
Good price for a game like this.

>>719871389
>>719871416
You guys are making an entirely different argument.
I'm just curious about the people who are arguing that the development time should correlate with the length of the game
and in terms of quality it's a 8/10 from what i played so far.

>>719869863
For platfvorming petty much everything else beats it fairly easy.

>>719871667
The 7 year dev time is more damning in terms of the lack of improvements to the core game from HK to Silksong. 7 years and all the same countless problems remain, while introducing new ones.
Then you look at other games like Ender Lilies to Magnolia and Blasphemous 1 to 2 and see the big improvements from each, while each taking much less time to develop.

It makes you question what they did for all those 7 years. It wasn't spent on making a big game or making relevant improvements. So did they just twiddle their thumbs, fuck around and then slap something together these last 2 years.

>>719871878
Did you even play the game?

>>719864861 (OP)
16 hrs probably rushing stuff
most people are probably 20 odd

>>719871667
For every day between the start of development till the release date, development team must offer 1 minute of fully gameplay dense play time. I'm sorry, it's just how it is on this bitch of an Earth.

>>719871878
They waited for the audience to advertise their game for free at every videogames event for 8 years to maximize income

>>719871878
Try developing a game like that yourself with 3 people

>>719871878
twiddling your thumbs and fucking around are perfectly reasonable things to do as a millionaire game developer

>>719864861 (OP)
So what you are saying is that it is awfully priced?
Should it be like 5$?

>>719865153
That one's not even that bad

>>719872164
0$

>>719864861 (OP)

Silksong is designed wrong though. It's unfun torture with sponge enemies and endless backtracking.

>>719872105
The team was not 3 people. Same way Disco Elysium and Darkest Dungeon dev teams weren't just 2 people.
These were just the core non-contractors.
You most definately wouldn't need 7 years to make Silksong either when it's so similar to HK, so you could re-use tons of assets, code and save time on not needing to prototype and test designs.

It's way more likely they either barely worked on Silksong during that time or fucked around trying different stuff that didn't work and they fell back on just copypasting HK instead just to get the game out.

Even if it was 16h if you were not rushing everything, it feels fair for 20€

>>719871878
Magnolia is better sure.

But they fucking fired their best artist in Blasphemous because he was RUSSIAN.

>>719872547
>But they fucking fired their best artist in Blasphemous because he was RUSSIAN.

I would frankly not want to have a russian on my staff for the simple reason for how volatile it is living and working in russia right now. having my artist suddenly get sent to the frontlines or prison isn't something I want to worry about.

>>719872547
I think it was a woman but yeah they fired her.

>>719865012
Speedrunners clear Elden Ring in nearly half an hour, does that make ER a flash-tier irrelevant videogame?

>>719872934
Your casual first run isn't though

the map seems tiny but there are way more map items for the achievement. something doesnt add up

>>719865096
this post feels mumbai-ish

why does every room in silksong look the same?

>>719873887
A tradition established in the first game

>>719864861 (OP)
No.

>>719864861 (OP)
Denounce Vishnu

>>719871245
Now, I want to read your take on Star Citizen.

>>719870006
I can agree with Magnolia and Blasohemous and Nine sols, but Blodstained is cluncky as fuck

>>719873887
Ai generative

>>719871245
Imagine if people continued to accept long dev times, the goal posts keep moving further away what we will tolerate. People like you accepting almost a decade to make a game like this, makes me counting down the days AI gets good enough to replace the whole system.

I swear more people accept more shit every year. Longer time to release, more bugs on release, worse than early games. It's like people memory holed the 360 era and earlier. It's so bad now the gaming population calls DLC new games.

I feel like gaming fans have been brainwashed over the years. Oh well in 7 years, 2032 Silksong releasing a new game will be fine. Who cares it's 10 hours and ranks worst in the series!

with the 7 year wait i was expecting some crazy big game like elden ring or a surprise second half map like sotn. but no. no. its just that same game again. same size and all. i guess since it was made by them 3 people. these retards really did sit around for 7 years adding all these scrolling layers to every room by themselves instead of hiring a few chinks or pajeets to expedite the process

>>719874653
we've been cooked years ago...
for example: The Resident Evil 3 remake had sold 9.9 million copies... It takes from 4 to 9 hours to finish. Some people paid from $40 to $60 for that slop, others speedrun the game just so they'd get a steam refund... At least in this case it's a AA game which costs $20 and surely it'd go lower..

>>719864861 (OP)
The achievement for speedrunning 100% completion is for doing it in under 40 hours, so realistically that’s probably closer to the average for a normal person taking their time and doing most of the content in the game.

>>719864861 (OP)
Anyone who didn't expect this to be Hollow Knight 1.5 is an absolute fool

Anybody can point me to a comprehensive lore recap of hollow knight?
Im usually a gameplay first so i only got bits of it when i played it, would like a recap before i try silksong.
I know i could as easily google it but im wondering if any anon actually can vouch for an specific video or whatever
Ty~

>>719865013
This. Motherfuckers will blast through a game as fast as humanely possible just so their playthrough can be the first on YouTube to farm cash

>>719875467
there was a bug kingdom and it fell to a plague and they contained the plague in a chosen hollow knight but the plague is leaking out but you know none of it you just run around and kill shit and eventually kill the glowie that made the plague and turn into a black void shadow nigger

>>719875467
bugs mostly mindless. they believe in higher beings here and there.
big worms like to make bugs worship them and build societies.
big worm dies and leaves behind egg which spawns Pale King.
Pale King OP, gives bugs intelligence. One forgotten Moth deity mad cause forgotten. Moth spreads infection to bugs via dreams.
King tries to find a way to contain Moth. Finds area that contain Void (entity). Finds bimbo Queen with high libido and spawns countless of vessels imbued with void.
One of them becomes the Hollow Knight, taken by the King and trained to become Moth's vessel the other one is you. HK wasn't succesful and infection starts leaking.
Sometime PK dies to pressumably to Void.
World in chaos.

>>719874857
>like elden ring
bloat ring with empty fields and recolored dragons

>>719876019
Won game of the century
Cry more

>>719876098
I'm crying over good game (demon's souls) getting flanderized to this sorry state. Now while I cry you can go back on your horsie and auto run to another dungeon for 30 minutes, maybe you'll find some copy pasted angry statue boss there.

>>719864861 (OP)
only thing that matters is if those 16 hours were actually enjoyable.
MGR was like 8 hours IIRC and I still remember it fondly.

>>719864861 (OP)
>one sitting
>16 hours and half

I beat metroid dread in 8 hours

>>719876728
If you cut down the shitty loading times, that would probably be 7 hours then

>>719864861 (OP)
I love this game so much

>>719865012
anything under 10 hours is not a video game but an advertisement

>>719864861 (OP)
16 hours is one sitting? Fat niggers

>>719865012
Anything over 10 is bloatmaxxed faggotry. Quantity is anti quality. The best games of all time can be beaten in under 2 hours by normal skillful play. Most shitty long games are just disrespectful to the player's time. I can count on one hand the number of games that deserve to be played for longer than 30 hours.

>>719878890
There are so many games you can finish in under 6 hours but if a game has a very nice atmosphere and that it doesn't feel like a chore to play, I'm gonna take more than 6 hours to finish it. The important part is how fun the game is throughout these hours, anyone would take a 500 hour game if it was fun from start to finish.
The problem is that games are made with super long tedious tasks in mind, extra side quests to make you feel like the game is larger than it should be.
Look chuddy, you've got 120 hours of game for $70! You would be DUMB to not take advantage of such a deal! Then you realize it's a hostage situation and you're never getting your money back.

>>719876591
It's his job, google sends him cash for getting views on his videos. Except it's a very competitive job cause thousands of other channels want their Silksong FINALE video to be seen first.

These bait threads are getting increasingly more pathetic

>>719869863
Luna Nights easily

>>719870373
I don't wanna replay one and done games, at least for years. Silksong feels 1:1 like HK, literally more of the same and I've already beaten HK so why should I keep playing

>>719865158
>well, it took 7 years to make, I thought it'd take 7 years to beat

10 hours of running into dead ends and backtracking.