Thread 719902352

Rate Hollow Knight on a scale from 1 to 10

Rate Silksong on a scale from 1 to 10

>>719902352 (OP)
Hollow Knight 5/10
Silksong 3/10

>>719902352 (OP)
EXTREMELY FUCKING OVERRATED

>>719902352 (OP)
HK - 7/10
SS - 6/10

homo1: 8/10
homoSS: 6/10

HK is an 8
Haven't had time for SS yet

>>719902352 (OP)
hk
7.5/10
still above average, but isn’t even as good as dread or concerto of the midnight sun

>>719902352 (OP)
Hollow Knight - 7/10. I like the music and atmosphere but the gameplay is simply okay, and it's just getting lost constantly.
Silksong - 7/10. It's the same fucking thing but hyped to hell and back. I'm tempted to knock a few points off out of spite but that's too petty. Anyone who says this should be GOTY is entitled to their opinion but I strongly disagree.

>>719902401
>>719902756
>>719902830
Is Silksong really that bad?

>>719902352 (OP)
Idk about numbers but Silksong is bascially the same game as HK but better

>>719903224
>the same game as HK but worse*
Sorry, don't know how I screwed that up

>>719903110
It's Hollow Knight but without the novelty, so it's a little worse.

HK is a solid 8
SS is a low 4-5 hornet just sucks to play as

>>719903110
Everything wrong with HK is the same or worse in Silksong.

>>719903601
>hornet just sucks to play as
What makes you say that?

Silksong slightly edges out, but it's like a 6 to HK's 5

I like that Silksong's more linear with less backtracking, I like that it's harder, I like the throwable weapons, I like the platforming better, and it feels more responsive.

I hate Silksong's currency system and that they never fixed the shitty map system, and runbacks feel longer but hard to tell for sure

8/10 and 9/10. It's the same game on a faster, squishier character.

They're both 7/10

>>719903678
she has a worse moveset
her tools are also overall worse than the skills from the first game
she feels so much weaker than HK

>>719903110
Its the same game but 7 years later.
Its cool, but its a really safe sequel.

I kind of agree with other anons, that the retarded hype didnt help. If the game was 1:1 as it was now but came out a year after HK people would just say "hey SS is also cool!"

>>719902352 (OP)
Hollow Knight 8/10
Silksong 6/10

both of them are overrated garbage

The people pointing out how badly this game was getting bandwagoned were correct. My condolences to the people who actually played both games and now get to deal with all of the bandwagoners refusing to admit that they didn't actually play the first while continually claiming the first waay better. The situation will never end for your kind, it will only get worse from here on out. Eventually, a patch will come out that "saved the game" despite not doing anything differently, and everyone will praise it finally being fixed. But you'll have to live with knowing. Because you saw it.
>t. Bannerlord enjoyer

>>719902401
too generous

>>719902352 (OP)
Both 10/10, perfect games. Don't play them. It will ruin gaming for you by making you realise how enshittified or overpriced games have become.

>>719904731
pretty much
silksong so far is more of the same with 0 improvement but way harder
i feel that since HK a milion similar games came out that do everything better

>>719903110
Not really, but its worse than HK

>comparing games when you haven't finished one of them
Lol
Lmao
Video game board by the way

HK - 8/10
SS - 7/10
im not even filtered, have beaten the final boss of act 1 which only 3% have done so far but i still think they made silksong to hard to be enjoyable.
i'm considering dropping it since it stopped being fun after the 10 hour mark for me.

>>719903110
movement and moveset is better in SS but the introduction of roseary currency genuinely kill your motivation to do any optional bosses or keep progressing since you will barely be able to scrape jusy getting fucking save points or fast travel unlocks.
its actually quite bad how unbalanced it is compared to hollow knight imo.

>>719902352 (OP)
Hk: 9.5
SS: haven't played enough yet

>>719908575
>beat most from slop
>beat hollow knight
>beat nine souls this week

>i go into silksong
>it feels too hard

fuck me, wonder how more casual players feel
my main problem is that enemies hit too hard, you can run into a boss room waiting to see what happens and die instantly before you even get to see his move set as you get insta killed in a 2 hit combo
why even have 5 masks if enemies hit for 2 or even 3?

>>719910201
i guarantee the most players wont even get past act 1.
not to spoil it if you havent played to it yet but there are two significantly difficult bosses in succesion, one of which has a nasty platforming runback.
I've already seen a lot of people complain about the masks and 2 damage.
a patch will probably be made with a 'accessible' difficulty that makes the game easier within a month or two.

>>719910586
feels like devs were smelling their own farts in this one, after 10 years of playing their own games they are completely detached from reality on what a new player is expected to be able to do
but desu i rather they fucking increased the nail length, im literally clipping my attacks into enemy sprites and somehow i miss and get hit, it fucking makes my blood boil on how sprites are larger than hitboxes

>>719910963
they certianly didnt improve on the areas of hollow knight that got criticised and somehow regressed when it comes to unlocking save and fast travel points.
nail length and moveset is fine imo, its more the lack of motivation to fucking do anything since nearly every boss gives you fucking nothing after you beat them combined with autistic pogo spike pit runbacks.

>>719911418
its annoying since those quick 2 hit deaths teach you nothing
in nine souls there is a progress block first boss, but the entire point is so you do it until you learn to parry
i have no idea what you supposed to get out of running to a boss for 2 minutes again and again

>>719902352 (OP)
easy
10
10

>>719902352 (OP)
Both 7. Just because faggots overhype it doesn't mean it's anything more than just "good".

>>719903110
It's the worst metroidvania I ever played. And I played a lot of them.

Hollow Knight - 9/10
Silksong - 3/10

>>719915062
this makes no sense

>>719902352 (OP)
10/10
8/10

5/10
4/10

>>719902830
>>719902851
>>719903601
>>719904027
>>719906731
>>719908575
>>719915062
>>719917576
Reddit

HK - 9/10
SS - currently 7/10, probably still dropping further the farther I come

Hornet's movement set feels so smooth and polished, yet the combat sucks ass. It's just not good game design when everything hits like a truck while you hit like a wet noodle. And even when you beat them, chances are you get either shit rewards or nothing.

If you try to not engage with mechanics of the game because they suck so much, it's bad design.

>>719919572
Troon

>>719920137
the troons are the ones enjoying the troon game you retard

>hollow knight
9/10

>silksong
First 1 hour was a 5/10
First 5 hours were a 8/10. I wasnt really feeling it, though tit was weaker
But now? Im finding insane secrets, my hornet moves at fucking hyperspeed i can barely keep up, i got some super fun damage upgrades, and im not even 20% through the game. Its a fucking 15/10

>>719902352 (OP)
7
5
It's just Hollow Knight but worse.

>>719919886
>everything hits like a truck while you hit like a wet noodle. And even when you beat them, chances are you get either shit rewards or nothing.
you need to use your tools better, every boss for the first 30 hours of the game can be killed under a minute, usually 2 minutes if you just use your shit well and are good with stuff like the diagonal dive
Use the spike trap for instance, that shit is incredible. Make sure to land a few spool skills whenever possible
If you have extra tool slots you can use the drink, or the throwables for chip damage whenever you cant attack normally

silksong bosses are the oppostie of damage sponges. And trust me, the rewards get WAY better the Widow onwards, which is an extreme difficulty spike mind you, but with mostly just 1 mask of damage

>>719920324
>Use the spike trap for instance, that shit is incredible
What if I wasted my first metal ore one the magma bell ?

>>719920218
>Game designed to intentionally filter the unfaithful
Based?

>>719919886
I feel like you do a lot of damage but I agree nothing in the game feels rewarding at all. I don't know why they thought it was a good idea to make those brown shit beads needed to buy maps and save points.

>>719908815
Can’t play until tomorrow but then quadrupling down on all of the shit I didn’t like about HK is making me worried that I’m gonna hate it. At least the movement seems fun

HK 8/10
SS 8/10 so far 5 hours in, the first excels in mood while this one in gameplay, also no one itt has finished it and it's extremely early to ask that, you are just gonna get disingenuous shitposters and then even bigger subhumans like >>719906538 that believe said shitposters

Hornet doesn't feel like Mario AND you can actually run. Silksong is objectively the superior game.

>>719902352 (OP)
HK: 4/10
SS: 7/10

>>719902352 (OP)
HK - visuals 8/10, gameplay 6/10
SS - visuals 9/10, gameplay 2/10

>>719908815
>but the introduction of roseary currency genuinely kill your motivation to do any optional bosses or keep progressing since you will barely be able to scrape jusy getting fucking save points or fast travel unlocks.
This stops being a problem once you hit Greymoor btw. Rosary enemies start becoming the norm and if you run around with the magnetic charm you'll actually be overloaded with rosaries.

>jumping cost Silksong its GOTY
LMAO

>>719920324
yeah I don't really get the complaints about damage sponges, it's true that they take a lot of hits but with how many hits you can deal out that's barely a problem, I got that ant boss people were bitching about down in 30 seconds and lace + fourth orchestra took maybe a minute each, all fun as fuck mind you.

>>719920473
you can get two within the first hour, one you mine in the world and another is a reward for something iirc

>>719903110
The movement is a significant improvement and the game gives you a good bit of customization with how you want your play style to be. So far I still prefer the first crest to all the others I've found.
The anon whining about rosaries being scarce is full of shit and shows they haven't made it far past the first few maps. You'll have plenty as long as you don't keep dying twice in a row before getting back to your cocoon, which is far less of a slog than the original Hollow Knight since Hornet is a speed demon.

>>719904363
>longer range
>moves faster
>can needle bounce at an angle
>swappable special attacks that recharge quickly as long as you aren't wasting string on heals
>extra special attacks you can equip that recharge at benches
Everything about her toolset is an improvement. I'm pretty sure there are crests that get you closer to the original's moveset if you really want them.

>>719919886
>when everything hits like a truck
You heal three health for every recharge, so it balances out pretty well.

>>719908815
Sounds like they just doubled down on existing problems

>>719904556
>Its the same game but 7 years later.
Then why did it take them 7 years to finish? it looks like an asset flip from the first game.

I haven't played Hollow Knight since 2018 but Silksong is making me question if I was just retarded back then and my tastes have changed. This is so tedious and boring. Every aspect of the game feels like it was designed to waste my time.

Hollow is a 5/10
Silk is a 9/10

Unironically 95% of the hate from Silksong comes from skill issue

>>719925480
How far in are you? Once you get the dash, moving around feels significantly better, especially since it also functions like a horizontal double-jump

>>719925193
Because the first game made it already that the devs had to never work again. So they probably worked less than 10 hours a week on the game.

HK 9.5/10
SS 6~ hours in 7/10

>>719924957
Saying that needle bouncing is better attack than pogo stick invalidates your entire opinion.

>>719924957
her pogo is trash
she's also far weaker since she takes 2 damage right from the get go
damage is also dogshit
hornet is so much worse than HK
i want my ifame dash back

>>719925990
needle bouncing is immensely painful in platforming sections but it's very consistent in combat imo

>>719927135
Regardless what it is, it's not perfection like scrooge mcduck's patented pogo stick attack. Even trying to pretend some gimmicky angled jump attack could be better is pure retardation. In the time you have landed two attacks pogo stick already has made mince meat of the enemy.

>>719925990
You can switch to variants of the pogo if you want, but the diagonal gives you a far better position to fight aggressively.
>>719925998
You seem to get some iframes right as you do the dash. Saved my ass fighting the Savage Beast fly with all the other bugs he kept spawning.

>>719902352 (OP)
I should have wait till discount or pirate it, kinda regret falling for the hype. I guess the shills got to me...
6.8/10

>>719903501
>novelty
Novelty of what, its a metroidvania

>>719902352 (OP)
>HK
9/10, absolutely adored it
>Silksong
7/10, 5/10 when it's pissing me the fuck off, which is sadly often.
>Overall
Feels similar to how Dark Souls was an atmospheric adventure and eventually evolved into the nonsensical anime stupidity of Elden Ring. Silksong bosses just aren't fun. They're frustrating. I enjoyed bosses in HK even when losing but here I just fucking hate them. In fact I hate a lot of the fucking enemies. This game just fills me with hate.

I played an hour of Silksong and it's literally just Hollow Knight and then I stopped playing. I do understand why it's so successful and I'm honestly glad that such a game is so successful and it kinda proves smaller games will always have a legit change to become successful even if it's just dumb luck. Even when everything is AI some dumb little game will be really successful and bring some light into the darkness.

But the game is just Hollow Knight and I can play a novel metroidvania instead like a friend recommended Nine Sols. Don't see why I should waste my time with Silksong when I can have a more novel experience.

>HK
9/10 during early to late mid game, having a huge checklist of power ups to get and having many ways to reach them is awesome. Love speedrunning 100%.
6-7/10 end game, just boss attack memorization and usually where i just drop it
>SS
Most recently beat the dancing robots. So far, the games a 6/10. There is barely any wow factor in exploration since the games structure is linear as fuck. The few branch off paths always lead to dead ends or enemy gauntlet rooms with the "reward" being a handful of roses. The bosses would be fun if they all werent three strikes and you're out. If this game came out in 2021 I wouldnt mind so much but this really doesnt seem like it was cooking for 7+ years. The map is bloated with nothingness and tanky enemies that shred your health. Really hoping Act 3 is better than this. So far its making me want to replay HK again.

>>719928069
>Silksong bosses just aren't fun. They're frustrating
really? I thought at least lace and fourth chorus were up there

>>719902352 (OP)
I can't believe they learned almost nothing in 7 years. The level design is still a whole lor of nothing. Vast spaces of the same corridors but in different colors.

It may be a long game with a lot of "content" but it still isn't a good metroidvania. you're once again playing for 20+ hours to get back to the exact same point of dash/double jump/wall jump.

They're both 6-7 desu. Competently made but extremely bland mechanically, they look good, but are completely devoid of game design ideas, it's a big big sandwitch with only bread in it. The only part that seemed unusual was the frozen land in Silksonng from what I've seen.

And It's fascinating how popular this is.

Hollow Knight - Didn't play it/10
Silksong - Haven't played it/10

>>719922941
If I run around without the compass, roasies will be the least of my worries because I'll be FUCKING LOST. Seriously why does the compass take up the slot

>>719931334
>reddit spacing
Go back.

>>719928660
you can do a lot of skips and get stuff early in ss, something which was completely missing from the first
you just overlooked it

>>719931334
>food analogy

how the fuck people legit beat hollow knight? here I am playing with infinite hp completely lost been 8 hours still with the very first sword and taking at least a dozen tries resetting each corridor full of spikes!

Which posts were honest?

>>719931967
Are you simple?

>>719903110
games fun but it feels like they fired their balance and difficulty curve guy.

>>719932148
no, I'm actually complex

>>719902352 (OP)
8/10
6/10
I think Im 50% through and Im just running becuase combats to fucking hard in sinners path / area before the judge.

>>719928046
The Hollowknight world and level design.

HK 8/10 and SS is a 7.5/10. Difficulty makes souls games look easy. It's wierd Ive cleared a lot of the content so far and Its starting to drag on by the time I got to Blasted Steps. I feel like the game has overstayed its welcome already.

>>719924718
I'm a decent ways into the citadel section and still strapped for cash. Enemies in areas like the clockwork core and bilewater do not drop any, saying your money problem gets solved after the first act is a lie unless you're the type to grind cash.

>>719902352 (OP)
Going solely off my first 5 hours with both games:
Hollow Knight 7/10
Silksong 5/10

>>719932850
Guys delusional.

>>719903110
Hornet is more fun to control, and with different unlockables she gets some really cool combat moves/abilities. Unfortunately after about the third boss every subsequent boss encounter is like the Radahn and Miquella fight in Elden Ring. It is brutally unforgivingly difficult, and you don't have multiple heals or an iframe dodge roll like you would have in FromSoft games.

>>719933816
You can heal every 9 hits for 3 health and the dash gives you a bit of iframes right when you use it.

>>719902352 (OP)
2d metroids>HK
I didnt care enough to get SS, will probably never play it unless I hear some people i trust say so

>>719912857
9sol is way better than these games, but the puppet animation on characters makes it look cheap.

>>719933816
fromsoft games also give you tools to cheese anything if you want. Its what makes them so accessible

>>719920218
>hollow knight faggots yell how the game gets better once you get all movement options
>somehow they have forgotten to tell this themselves when it comes to silksong
lmao

>every anon thinks their path is the linear path
Hilarious watching this in real time.

>>719902352 (OP)
0 for both.

>>719903110
It’s the un-4channiest game since Xenoblade 3 and FF7 Rebirth, and that’s saying something. We had previously liked it, but then trannies liked it too, so now we hate it. Expedition 33 is our GOTY and we can’t allow any usurpers.

>>719903110
The first game was mediocre, albeit with no real flaws, making it a good normalfag game. But that doesn't work for a play-it-safe sequel that has been inexplicably hyped up to an absolutely absurd degree after a 7 year wait. In fact, that becomes incredibly disappointing, even to the normalfags.

>>719902352 (OP)
9 and 10

It's become clear that Silksong isn't going to have the gay blacksmith so 7/10 is the best I can give it. I'll give HK an 8.

>>719932016
very few.
This place is littered with shitskins who simply hate something that is popular.
or just legit normalfags preening "look at me" while whining about difficulty.

the game isn't perfect, and it certainly won't get GOTY from me, but it's still a very good game. And holds up to hollow knight.