Thread 719905939

Is it a masterpiece?

technically? yes
genre-defining, a literal game changer, influenced horror games after its release even to this day

I just wish it didn't kill resident evil's identity and the survival horror genre though

>>719905939 (OP)
Yes. Not a single other game balances arcade action and survival horror tension as well as this game.
>b-b-but the dynamic difficulty
And it still worked because there was more to the tension than just being low on ammo.

>>719905939 (OP)
the village felt more like mexico than spain

I'm replaying this game for the first time since the Wii version launched, it's still great.

>DOGSHIT tier controls
No. Fuck no.

>>719906249
>there was more to the tension than just being low on ammo
All of the tension came from the awful controls.

>>719905939 (OP)
Yes and games are still being made to this day that take inspiration from it. Modern (keyword "modern") God of War, TLOU and games like this have RE4 to thank for their existence as they are.

>>719905939 (OP)
Yes. It's absolutely one of the most important video games of the 2000s.

>>719907470
>modern") God of War, TLOU
So RE4 had a catastrophic effect on the game industry? Sounds even worse than Half Life's legacy in inspiring movie game slop.

still never ever got around to playing it.

I think I bought it on steam before but it wouldnt run and I gave up and refunded.

also I really dont like having to go into melee mode or whatever.

>>719907640
You're both being disingenuous faggots. RE4 inspired games like Gears of War and Dead Space

>>719905939 (OP)
it's a disaster that killed resident evil

only midwits worship it

>>719907824
I like nu-Ashley's face more everything else is a downgrade

>>719907320
>>719907379
Bad controls = it's not exactly like every other 3rd person OTT game made today.

>>719905939 (OP)
No, mainly because of the island.

>>719907379
"Awful controls" is just your cope for being ass.

>>719906078
RE was stale and dying before RE4. Be happy it saved the series and made more survival horror RE's possible in the future.

>>719905939 (OP)
>half the game is QTE, addictive inventory management and grinding, shitty extrinsic motivators just to settle with mediocre point & click gunplay.
Shit game.

>>719906078
That cinematic flair only is feasible with tank controls, due to the perspective shifts. If we can find a way to make tank controls intuitive, the genre could come back. We've seen traditional controls with the same ideas in Devil May Cry, and it was... what's the word... Well the illusions collapsed during transitions and it looked real janky.

>>719905939 (OP)
Yes

>>719908265
we'll never see a return to tank controls, the modern gamer literally cannot comprehend them

>>719907824
>>719907884
retards. the remake was great. it stands on its own as a fun game play along the original just like re2 and re1 remakes.

>>719908514
It was better than expected, but I still prefer the OG

>>719908514
I haven't played it yet so all I have to judge it on is how nerfed Ashley and Ada are.

>>719908514
Sure all it took was scrubbing out every bit of soul from the game

>>719907719
>gears of war

uuggghhh...that's not an accomplishment lmao

>>719908612
i agree, i thought from the trailers it was gonna be wack af, but i played the demo and was surprised by how fun it was, and it felt like re4 but different. i was very surprised by it

>>719907884
old ashley's face is just pure sex to me. I even modded nuashley back to her

I never get the crying about tank controls. It literally took me 5 minutes to adjust.

>>719909557
Aiming with my left thumb is the most difficult part.

>>719909606
You can switch it to the right stick in RE4

>>719909926
Was it like that in the original? I thought that was an addition to the HD ports.

>>719909557
I don't understand it either. There were hundreds of games prior to RE4 that didn't have tank controls, which I and everyone else played, and it didn't phase us to play a game with them. I hate to sound old but I think it's just younger gamers being completely coddled by modern game design where everything feels the same in every single game.

>>719910059
Dunno, lol. I'm a zoomie.

>>719905939 (OP)
the remake is better

>>719905939 (OP)
Yes, and it's better than all the recent DE-makes and RE-engine slop in general, combined.

>>719909606
No it's not. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>719910597
20 years of playing twin stick shooters on controller.

multi-STD.

Absolutely.

>>719907760
If every resident evil thereafter were like 4 I would be playing them still. What killed the series was 5 because they did not get or could not reproduce what makes 4 fun.

>>719911213
RE5 is kino. The thing that ruins is the retarded pre-mission menu system, instead of just giving you a merchant.

>>719910501
Was this not in the remake?

>>719908376
That's a real shame.

>>719905939 (OP)
The PS2 version is better

>>719906249
pretty sure there's no dynamic difficulty on professional

>>719911213
Except 5 is still the most sold RE game, even after all these years.
>i-it's only because of how hyped 4 was
>RE4 sold 1,600,000 on GameCube
>RE4 sold 2,300,000 on PlayStation 2
>Total on both consoles for first time release = 3,900,000
>RE5 sold 9,700,000 on both X360 and PS3, more than double of what RE4 initially sold. For fairness, I'm not counting PC and keeping it two consoles.
>RE6 sold 9,700,000 on both X360/PS3 as well, meaning if 5 was truly bad and only hyped by 4, then the numbers would have dropped for 6, but they didn't.
Total sales today:
>Resident Evil 5 - 16,811,739 (2009)
>Resident Evil 6 - 16,223,750 (2012)
>Resident Evil 4 - 15,552,463 (2005)
4 has had more years and more platforms, and is still outsold by its sequels.

>>719913704
How do you know you like a game before you buy it?

>>719905939 (OP)
It's a masterpiece
>gamecube version
oh nevermind

>>719905939 (OP)
yes and it ruined everything at the same time

>>719915732
>>gamecube version
It's the best version visually.

>>719913704
>>i-it's only because of how hyped 4 was
not only this but also more people are getting access to the internet and are buying games than ever before. there are like 1 billion more gamers today than there were when Re4 was released.

And yes normies buy hyped up thing and ignore the thing that caused hype in the first place and the devs who killed the franchise will always pat themselves on the back for doing a good job for having higher sales numbers than the last game even if all they did was ride the coattails from the fandom that was built up from before.

see Diablo 3, the best selling PC game of all time at the time, with some of the most advertising of any game of the time at the time with a fanbase who almost unanimously agreed that the previous diablo game was the best game ever made for that genre, and yet it had some of the worst reception and player retention of any blizzard game

>>719908376
Come on, it's not that difficult. If a triple AAA company had the balls to released a survival horror game with old school tank controls I'm sure zoomers would figure it out.

>>719913704
>Resident Evil 6 - 16,223,750 (2012)
I played this trash fire just recently and i don't get it.
>guns feel like peashooters
>all the limb based reactions from 5 and 6 is completely nerfed or it gets worse (those zombies that grow armor)
>enemy ai is just broken, enemies constantly run straight past you and get into a cover on the wrong side completely exposed
>levels are mostly claustrophobic linear corridors where you can barely move around despite the fact that you can dash, slide and roll
>each scenario is bloated as fuck
>story is some over-complicated conspiracy nonsense
why 16 Million people

>>719905939 (OP)
Yes, I replayed it for the first time in ages about a a month ago and couldn't put it down for a few weeks. At some point I needed to be honest with myself and acknowledge that a game I own four or five copies of is probably a favorite. I also think the idea that the village segment stands out above the rest or that there's a quality drop off past a certain point is also pretty much complete bogus, it has the most optional scenes and details etc. but from a gameplay standpoint RE4 never falters from introducing either an idea or an environment/enemy layout not seen anywhere else in pretty much every individual room.

For as famous as it is people also absolutely do not give the cinematography of RE4's cutscenes enough credit. Shit's maximally entertaining at all times. I've seen a cinegrid of it occasionally posted which is mostly just comprised of in-gameplay over the shoulder shots and it really doesn't do justice to how stylish it is.

>>719912852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSkn5S_276E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-Z03qa7zk

>>719913704
I saw a thread a couple of days ago where one anon pointed out that RE6 was either the best selling or second best selling and some other anon called him a retard and confidently said it wasn't even in the top five and I don't know where the latter got that idea from at all
I assume he didn't notice that Capcom's official sales site lists ports of certain games individually and thought the total was much lower than it really is

>>719906078
This >>719908158 is true, actually. REmake was also a masterpiece but it did garbage sales. People were getting worned out with the formula and if they didn't do something drastic the series was going to be shelved. As much as you may dislike the changes it brought, RE4 injected adrenaline into the franchise. Had Mikami stayed he would've probably made something closer to Shadows of the Damned than The Evil Within but he definitely wouldn't have made RE5.

>>719907936
how does the last of us 2 have bad controls wait that was 5 years ago

>>719905939 (OP)
It looked good, played decent for the time, and had an awesomely campy story and Ashley was hot as fuck with her mouse ears and pop star outfit. Absolutely based.

>>719905939 (OP)
pretty... pretty... pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRz8-EXlhBo

>>719916334
i like the hd modded pc version, but im a pleb

>>719907379
There's evidently a huge portion of "horror fans" who think a horror game can only be good if it plays like shit with controls and a camera that constantly fight you

>>719908514
>just like RE1 and RE2
nice bait

>>719905939 (OP)
Unless it's number 7, no.