Thread 719933307

He teams up with a woman called EVA also known as TATYANA also known as MATKA PLUKU also known as BIG MAMA

>>719933307 (OP)
MGS4 is so insanely schizo it becomes stupid. The codec team being the Patriots is lame as hell, and Eva being Snake's mom is lamer. Way to make your universe TINY as hell.

I think a better solution would be to have the MGS3 support team jump ship to join Big Boss. Zero becomes his top commander replacing Miller. The Philosopher remnants still exist, and they are pissed at their stolen money so they're out for revenge and to recover it. A faction then forms the Patriots.

And MGSV would have been a WAY more interesting game to bring back Eva for.

>>719933307 (OP)
>>719934143
Snake has zero connection to eva, who is just a random ass old woman from his perspective. Big Boss DOES have a connection, so adding her for MGSV would have been interesting, but he already blew his Eva load in 4.

>>719934143
>MGS4 is so insanely schizo it becomes stupid.
Nigga the plot of every single MGS is stupid, you're supposed to realize this when you turn 15 or so

>>719934143
& it’s still better than Death stranding

No man can resist my charms!

>>719935140
Nah, 4 had some heavy lifting to do and it failed spectacularly.
1 & 3 are typically praised because their stories are relatively “simple” compared to the other mainline games. People love to gas up 2, but it get very convoluted by the end. It has a couple of good ideas, but history has a funny way of trying to move past the fact that Kojima deliver the first MGS sequel as a game that doesn’t let you play as Snake and purposely rehashes the story from the first game - then tries to play it off by letting you know the game is “doing it on purpose”.

3 has been getting hate because of Delta, but the prequel thing was great at the time and playing as Big Boss had everyone hyped after Raiden. It was a good game for the time and the narrative tried to be more cohesive than 2.

But all this doesn’t matter because any of the good shit those first three games establish gets fucked by 4. Ocelot is just pretending to be people… for reasons. Any vaguely mystical about the previous games… nano machines. In fact, any lingering plot point Kojima doesn’t know how to resolve… nano machines. It fucking sucks.

Again, Kojima did the MGS2 shit was 4; he couldn’t just make a proper conclusion. The first trailers had to let us know Snake is old and everything went to shit and he put a gun in his mouth and wants to kill himself. Great way to show your hero in his return as the main character of, what was going to be, the final installment of the series. It sucked then and it sucks now.

eva coming back and being a huge big boss fan will never not be hilarious to me
it made him seem like an even bigger chad

he could care less about that thot

>>719935681
I think it would have been better to just continue the Big Boss storyline, rather than making a sequel to 2 right away. Spend the next few games telling Big Boss' rise and then explain the origin of the Patriots.

Build on the fun characters everyone loves (the MGS3 support team) and include them in Big Boss' shenanigans rather than making them the Illuminati.

>MGS4: Phantom Pain + MGSO2 (PS3)
>MGS: Portable Ops (PSP) - Side story
>MGS: Peace Walker (PSP) - mission based base building
>MGS5: The Guns of the Patriots (PS4) - Old Snake endstory

>>719936751
yeah.

>MGS1
>"Snake, you haven't aged well"
>"Blood from the East flows within your veins"
>MGS4
>His genes were tampered with to prematurely age him
>Eva the Chinese spy is his mother

Despite how it appears, I still don't think he was deliberately building up to these revelations all those years ago

>>719939936
Eva was just the surrogate mother and shares no genetic link to Snake. The old backstory is that Big Boss has Japanese ancestry in some manner, but this is either forgotten about or dropped.

The English MGS official guidebook took some of the canon plot points and then created a fan-fic biography based off of them, and actually wrote a more interesting backstory than what Kojima gave him. I bet you anything they never thought that Big Boss, who was dead, was ever going to ever appear in a sequel, so none of this mattered.

I hope MGS4 gets remade so we can get older Eva in 4K UHD detail

>>719939936
Eva is ethnically Russian, just a turncoat spy working for the Chinese.

>MGS3
>Snake's CIA contact is Ocelot
>they spend the entire game trying to kill each other

>>719940528
>Eva is ethnically Russian
She was born in Idaho

>>719940381
>The old backstory is that Big Boss has Japanese ancestry in some manner, but this is either forgotten about or dropped.
This is some weird shit Jap-Devs do over there. Pretty sure one of the Resident Evil characters was 1/20th Japanese until they forgot about it,which is often the case.

>>719935247
Why does she look like Vera Farmiga?

>>719935681
4 did exactly one thing correctly and that was the fistfight with Ocelot at the end, which was pure, crystalline kino.

>>719934143
Pretty sure that is the explanation in the timeline at the end of MGS3. The American Philosophers get the money, become a lot stronger and more influential than the rest and then later rename themselves. I have always held the reveal from 4 was literally an insult towards the fan for demanding an answer about the Patriots any deeper than that.

>>719941786
>the Philosophers collectively pooled the money to rebuild the world
>when the Americans got their hands on it exclusively they fucked everything up for most of a century
A little on the nose there Kojimbo