Thread 719943276

Did this game fully expose Oblivion as being a mediocre game?

No. It exposed the Bethesda formula as timeless, though.

>>719943276 (OP)
Everyone already knew that.

Are any of the Elder Scrolls games just good? Without needing caveats of "you had to grow up with it" or "install a dozens mods". Failing that are there any good action WRPGs?

>>719943584
Yes. Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are all good. You're a rape victim if you think otherwise.

>>719943584
>Failing that are there any good action WRPGs?
Who makes RPGs better than the west? Serious question. Don't tell me it's that embarrassing weeb slop.

>>719943584
Yeah, I'd say most are pretty good, and they scratch an itch that no other genre do. Mods are really great but the games do well on their own, most people that say otherwise haven't played vanilla in such a long time their memory is likely skewed. Never played modded morrowind or modded oblivion, I do mod skyrim but had a lot of fun recently in vanilla too playing a cool character idea.

>>719943584
They're all good. Flawless games don't exist and every TES game is enjoyable. Skyrim is the best of them all and I say that having played all of them and having started with Morrowind.

>>719943584
Morrowind is good and bad. The rest are all bad.

>>719943584
Morrowind, oblivion and skyrim are all excellent games

>>719943276 (OP)
Essentially. There's a reason both Morrowind and Skyrim are more liked, more played and more talked about.

>>719943276 (OP)
Always has been.

>>719943681
i was circumcised as an infant so yes

oblivion wasn't mediocre, it was utter trash and barely playable

>>719943276 (OP)
It reminded me never to trust the French

I got 80 hours of playtime in one week when oblivion released. I had fun with it

It exposed Oblivion for having intense soul but also being kinda boring.

It also exposed a FUCK ton of zoomers for not giving a god damn about games older than 2009. So many www.x.com niggas saying shit like "oh my god its like a brand NEW ES GAME! ! !"

>>719944957
Todd, stop.

>>719943276 (OP)
Not really, it just made people reevaluate what they actually liked about Oblivion. The memes, the jank, the weird charm of it all. People forget that at the time it blew everyone’s mind-even with the potato faces and psychic guards. Modern games might be bigger and shinier, but few capture that same bizarre magic. Oblivion’s not mediocre, it’s just aged like milk and wine simultaneously depending on the day.

>>719945256
>nobody can tell what the left dude is from
Grim

>>719943584
No and morrowind is shit too

>>719946568
They're flawed. But there's basically no other games like it. I love that I can just pick a direction and avoid the story if I want.
I love poking my nose into a random corner of the map and finding a little dopamine nugget. I like the way the NPCs react to me. It all adds up. Add in the mods, you got a stew goin

it's supposed to be played on weed

not really? oblivion's only real flaws are the floaty sword swinging, the ugly bloom visuals and the tedium of trying to min-max stats, and the remake fixes all of that from what I understand?

its a genuinely great game with a tonne of good content

>>719943276 (OP)
Aren't most people complaining about the god awful optimization, as well as a lack for mod support?

>>719943276 (OP)
can't wait for the Morrowind remake to expose it for being overrated garbage

>>719943276 (OP)
I don't think so, It just exposed how zoomers are unable to enjoy slow games because of their fucked attention spans.

>>719943584
They are all technically horrible games, the trick is that nobody tried to replicate their formula in a competent way, it's a GTA situation, Daggerfall is the real soul of the series.

>>719943584
i like to split it into gameplay and story
gameplay wise, morrowind sucks, oblivion sucks so hard you don't want to level and skyrim is serviceable
story wise, skyrim is atrocious, oblivion is shit and morrowind is okay, the lore gets dragged down by the absolute mundanity of quests

>>719951138
Have you ever thought that others are not ABLE to replicate and do the BGS/Rockstar formula better than them? How many GTA clones have been released? And how many were successful? Exactly. There are no competent GTA like games, because nobody can create games as technically advanced as Rockstar. There's not a single game out there that is even close to RDR2, and that was released 7 years ago. Same thing goes for Bethesda games.

>>719943276 (OP)
Yes

>>719951563
>Have you ever thought
He doesn't think, no

>>719950069
Not gonna happen. Nobody played or cared for Oblivion before the demaster, meanwhile Morrowind has never stopped being played. Regardless of Skywind or a possible future official demaster, OG Morrowind with Tamriel Rebuilt will never not be enjoyed like it's been for almost 25 years.

>>719943276 (OP)
Well Oblivion is kind of mediocre in terms of gameplay. The thing people still like about it is the atmoshpere, soul and general vibe of the game, which the remake completely murdered, so it’s pointless to play it.

>>719943276 (OP)
I stopped playing this when I noticed that all the player characters were the same height regardless of race. I just checked the patch notes and they finally fixed it but it took them 3 months to do so after release. I feel like that’s pretty emblematic of the level of effort and care that went into this project.

>>719951924
What makes Cyrodiil different from the generic medieval fantasy setting? Cyrodiil looks generic as fuck. Even Skyrim has more uniqueness to it, no?

>>719952103
>all the player characters were the same height regardless of race.
This was the case in Skyrim as well, but luckily someone made a great mod to fix that.

>>719946953
>it’s just aged like milk and wine simultaneously depending on the day.
Oblivion is the vidya equivalent of the double slit experiment... kino

>>719945256
Gothic 3 tried to be a Oblivion copy and shat the bed hard.

>>719952454
exatctly
Gothic 3 tried to copy a shit game (Oblivion) and as a result it ended being a shit game
then Risen 1 went back to the old formula that made Gothic games good and it was amazing