Thread 719984729

>Every game after it turned into an outdoors crawling simulator
>Utterly destroyed the pre-existing lore by making the Patriots just the codec people, making the universe feel way smaller and less of a conspiracy

>>719984729 (OP)
>Utterly destroyed the pre-existing lore by making the Patriots just the codec people
that was mgs4

>>719984729 (OP)
You go outside numerous times in 2.

>>719984998
This, dishonest-ass OP trying to pass off MGS4 retcons as something MGS3 did

>>719985201
no, 90% of the game in the big shell, 9% in the tanker and 1% on a rooftop

>>719984729 (OP)
I would agree that MGS 3 is the best in the series and that the games after it worse than any of 1-3 but I'm not sure if I should blame MGS3 or Kojima for that
MGR would break that rule but lets say it doesn't count because it was made by Platinum

>>719984729 (OP)
>Utterly destroyed the pre-existing lore by making the Patriots just the codec people
That was not MGS3,
but Portable Ops, which Kojima did not work on.

>>719985291
Once again, Kojima TRIED to make the PO's retcon shit work in the canon, but since most Westoids never played the PSP game, they instead ended up blaming him and #4 for the silly lore-rape.

>>719984729 (OP)
> it hurt the series overall
WAY less than MGS2 did, as that trash almost turned the series into First Person Tranquilizer slop.

>>719984729 (OP)
>outdoors crawling simulator
I bet you are the kinda guy that sits in a corner or under the brush waiting for the CAUTION timer to run out too. Kojima was right when he said americans are to stupid to enjoy his games.

>>719985860
Not him but that what you're implying has literally nothing of the "tactical espionage" the first two games provided

>Every game after it turned into an outdoors crawling simulator

You mean the first MGS that wasnt radarslop. 3 getting rid of the radar and making it so you actually look at the damn game while playing is when the gameplay finally got good

>>719984729 (OP)
MGS2 is the best