Thread 720000808

/v/ still cannot decide if it's a low IQ or high IQ game.

>>720000808 (OP)
You have low IQ just by playing this game before beating Silksong

>get this glyph
>giant ranged attack with a big AOE splash that just one-shots literally everything
How do you fail to balance a game that has 5 enemies...

it has some tough puzzles and some braindead/stupid puzzles

The bird is smart enough to not put up with that shit.

>>720000808 (OP)
The puzzles are low IQ but the game itself is high IQ since it actually requires you pay attention and remember shit.

CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW

>>720001013
>>720001105
pretty much

>get to the Ligma Forge
>final timeloop guardian is behind a triple terror glyph rod door
>i have seen 0 terror glyph rods
>i can either a. wander around the entire game looking for them, b. check a guide, or c. don't worry abouut it now and vaguely hope i'll encounter all three by the time i forget i ever saw it or finish the game, and that i haven't already missed any of them due to option a.

Fuck this game. Fuck puzzle games.

>you killed a timeloop guardian
What the fuck is a timeloop guardian.

E33 bros..

>>720001650
Even here I'm reminded of this pain.....

>>720000808 (OP)
even with the giga greatsword you still can't perma stagger the lanky boys

yes lol

Wait a second this is just Dark Souls if it took place in Yugoslavia

>the door is locked from the other side
>the door is locked from the other side
>the door is locked from the other side
And people say this isn't a soulslike or even souls inspired lol

>get a drone upgrade that enables quick stepping
>if you enable it, quick step and disable it, cooldown is super small
>can now effectively control entire crowds with ease by zipping around

whoa spoilers bitch

>>720000808 (OP)
it's just boring and shitty. making me remember basic fucking shit isn't a triumph of game design it's a marketing spin on their gay crap

>MC is a canon sociopath
neat

>>720000808 (OP)
has anyone been able to slog through enough of the backtracking to figure out if there's actually a secret ending yet? the standard ending is so bad that it matches the quality of the rest of the game but it really veers off course from the quality of the rest of the writing.

>>720003821
It caught me off guard when he just picked the gear off that random woman's body 2 seconds after she died without batting an eyelid.

>>720004263
at least he covered her up

ooh pretty

>>720004437
I hate that i actually chuckled at the family tree joke

>>720004263
It's also why he can go through all this crazy brutal shit without a single fuck given. He barely feels anything.

The whole
>no hand-holding
approach would've been cooler if they gave me a map with no waypoints, no markers, and just let me fill it out myself with drawings or custom markers

im about to bust a cap

>>720005092
i never felt the need for a map
how fucking mad is your memory lmao

>>720005152
It's not my memory, it's that the map is grey, featureless, and unmemorable
Every road looks the same, every hallway looks the same, there's just nothing to latch onto to form mental paths

>>720005243
translation: yes I have bad memory so I'm going to be mad at the game

>>720005283
>getting lost in the concrete labyrinth means you have bad memory
kys

it didn't need a map but it desperately needed fast travel between save points and it pretty clearly did at some point in development. they're always placed right before NPCs even if the NPC has no combat involved

>>720005368
exactly. stay mad memorylet.

>>720003821
literally me

>>720004437
total zoomer death

>>720000808 (OP)
Hell is Us is IQ game because it's a québécois game, therefore French Canadians, therefore French.

>>720005092
brainlet take

>>720005551
kek

*kills you*

how fucking deep is it?

they really love this font huh

>>720006135
>being able to conveniently make your own map is worse than no map at all
Retard

>>720000808 (OP)
>hype game up as a big brain mystery open world
>have literal disclaimer saying game is for big brains and not babies
>every puzzle is fit the shape in the hole
>first puzzle in the game is literal skyrim puzzle
im glad I got my refund even after 4 hours.

>>720006769
fuck off retard

>>720006769
you want a map in this game. you are in no place to call anyone a retard.

>>720001502
Write a note for yourself nigga.

>>720006991
>im glad I got my refund even after 4 hours

proof? i've never been able to get one past the 2-2.5 hour mark..

>>720007091
Running down hallways looking for where you need to go is textbook retard behavior
This is some fucking future tech world
I have a drone
If Mr. Aiden Pearce wanted a map it wouldn't be hard to get, but instead this game wants to jerk off about how not having a map is some super cool feature for big brains

After giving up and checking walkthrough to figure out what to do in the Ligma Forge, and checking a guide for missibles before finishing Act 1, I have maybe three major complaints:

No CaC
Missables
Those fucking obnoxious pre- and post-travel cutscenes, and you have to hold X to skip as opposed to tap

Otherwise game's an okay 7/10 maybe

>>720007239
you can get a refund for basically anything at any time if you kick up a stink.
I said the marketing was misleading and that I'd only finished what content was in the demo and that the PDA was "unplayable" on controller, and it worked.

>>720007420
proof?

>>720007420
proof?

>>720007648
where does it say your playtime after you've refunded the game? I cant find it anywhere.

This game's puzzles are insulting my intelligence so much that I caved and finally bought Blue Prince as a palate cleanser

dude let me in
i'm a fairy

>>720007885
I bounced off the "rogue-like elements" of that game but I'm told by everyone I know to push through because the mystery is good.

>>720007975
>I bounced off
Is this like "miss me with"? God you fucking zoomers piss me off

>>720007885
condolences. that game has more complicated puzzles but you're only allowed to solve them when the RNG says so

>>720008279
Anon that slang has been around since the 90s

>>720008279
>fucking zoomers
I'm 32, I've been saying that for at least 15 years anon.

>>720008367
>>720008389
I have never heard it before this moment. I don't believe you at all

is there any nudity in this game
where are the fucking titties bros

>>720008468
>I've never heard it in my ESL shithole so you're lying
aight

>>720008493
>no cac
>bunch of elderly girlbosses
>kills the only attractive woman in the opening

>>720008468
I cant remember the last time I got angry at words.

>>720008562
Nah brah I'm EFL on god frfr miss me with that ESL shit

>game runs fine
>turn on DLSS
>runs like shit

i'm a tech brainlet
what does this mean?

>>720008714
it means your pc is stronk and doesn't need AI bullshit

what specs?

>>720008801
playing at 1440p/60fps

MORE
FUCKING
SYMBOL MATCHING?????
ARE THE DEVELOPERS FIVE YEARS OLD
WHY ARE THESE THE ONLY PUZZLES IN THE FUCKING GAME

>>720008920
yeah you don't need the dlss meme

>>720009142
UMM OK HOW ABOUT A RAT

i'm so lost
i went to the lake and could only find a pistol

>>720009193
good news

I really dislike puzzle games that give you little direction because I end up overthinking every little thing. I was running around and randomly hit a white pillar on the ground thinking it wouldn't do anything and was a background prop, but it started glowing and I realized it was a part of a bigger puzzle. Theres four of these pillars that you have to hit in a certain order and there are three monoliths near them pointing in different direction but also the pillars themselves each have a marking on a certain side that could be pointing in specific directions but maybe they're just a part of the pillar texture?
And then there's some text nearby the clearly relates to this puzzle but I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out how. It makes mention of a bunch of locations so maybe I have to hit the pillars in the order that the locations they point to appear in the writing? And of course since its ancient writing I would have to know what modern building is the "Amine Cast" and the "Fifth Lymbic Forge"
But do I really gotta do all that just to hit some fucking pillars in order? Maybe the order is hidden in the next itself, like every capital letter representing a direction and....
THIS IS ONE GODDAMN PUZZLE I STUMBLED ON BY ACCIDENT
And the worst part is maybe I dont have all of the information to even logic this puzzle out. There were a few puzzles in the first area that I spent an hour wandering around trying to figure out before I gave up and moved to the second area thinking that Id probably need some info/items I get later.

Please give me a fucking sudoku or a riddle or something that I at least know HOW im supposed to solve it

are these portraits of people that are supposedly photos AI generated?

>>720009880
did you not pay attention whey they discussed the map with the blue flower

>>720010481
they sure look like it

>>720010502
oh yeah

>>720000808 (OP)
high enough IQ that /v/ got filtered by it and had to run to silksong

>>720010481
>>720010560
That just looks like airbrushing and photobashing

>>720000950
>>720010667
No one is taking your bait, falseflagging Tendies

>>720010481
>>720010560
>3d models being photoshop into realistic photos is now confused with AI
I feel old

>>720011212
i know that's the case for the ones with the prez but not the girl

Just finished it. Pretty good.

>talk to the locals!
>no you retard, not any of the NPCs on this map where you were told to do this despite them all being locals, I mean 1 of 3 NPCs in completely different zones!
This game is bad.

>>720011880
you might be retarded if your first thought was to talk to the guy doing inventory in jova instead of any of the other named npcs

>>720012075
There's literally a whole camp of people on the same map who you do quests for and they're probably the first people you'll bump into, it doesn't feel like a big stretch to assume they'd know literally anything about blue flowers

Man if you're going to have a bunch of backtracking you cant have this whole no fasttravel obsession. And if you want to focus on exploration without maps and shit you cant have all this backtracking. They're incompatible. Spending 10 minutes backtracking to get this fucking sewer baby some milk from a cow halfway across the country is not good gameplay.

>>720012710
>get back from driving across the country just to pick up milk
>all the enemies respawned

They cant be this fucking stupid can they? What the fuck. Yeah people are sick of blindly following way points and shit but that doesn't mean you had to bring back every single fucking horrendous game design decision from the late 90s

>Talk to NPC
>"I haven't heard from MY DAUGHTER in days. Last I heard she went to that MYSTERIOUS RUINS UP NORTH, but when I went there all I could find was a VERY STRANGE OBJECT there that looked like SOME SORT OF KEY that I DROPPED SOMEWHERE ON MY WAY BACK. I recall she had a FRIEND in [VILLAGE] that KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT THE RUINS, but I never met her myself."
Oh I get it. It's like reading those classes in school teaching you how to read TOSs or English class on context clues.
So I can see why it's advertised as being """high IQ""" because it filters literal niggers. Even when it comes to the puzzles it's just paying attention to the environment on what symbols correspond to xyz.
I figured it wasn't as big brained as the head dev made it out to be. Dude's just selling a repackaged Dark Souls: Open World Edition.

>>720013127
He admitted that he used to be big on boxing so for his CTE-rattled brain symbol puzzles are probably as hard as they get

if your brightness setting is the way the devs intended it to be you'll have a hard time spotting the letter under the seat tee hee

>>720003183
Both the developers of this and Silent Hill f are in dential. They made Souls games.

>>720003183
This was a thing back in PS1 resident evil 1 days

>>720014430
To this degree? Not even close.

>>720005092
>>720008493
The devs read reddit threads about how morrowind is so good because its not handholdy
But they forgot to ask 4chan if the game should include a cute girl to tie the whole thing together
Literally one just ONE top tier cute waifu waiting for you at home base would have saved the game from silksong

There isn't a single puzzle in this game that's as hard or harder than this btw

>>720016750
RE puzzles are kino

>>720000808 (OP)
Putting the right pieces into these chests isn't a puzzle. It's an element of backtracking because you find the chests all over the game world and the pieces all over the game world so you're usually finding chests before you have the means to open them.

>>720004263
>>720004927
He made some quip near the start that was kind of fucked up given the situation but now that I'm posting about it I can't recall what it actually was. But it makes sense after finding out he's a sociopath.

>>720006991
Now look at these threads and look at the Steam forums and see how many brainlets are whining about it being too confusing for them.

i got this game knowing nothing about it - only that jensen voices the mc
that was enough to sell me lmao
the atmosphere is top notch and combat is serviceable

Any fun builds? Greif has a lot of cool effects for trading with hyperarmor, but the actual Grief spells seem to kind of suck.

Right now I'm using Terror runes for the set-and-trigger AoE and the charged single target laser (which doesn't work if you move?) And the Grief accessory that gives 400% lymbic spent as HP

>>720018182
Rage has this
>>720000967
which completely trivializes the game
Sadly the enemies are too simple and repetitive to find much "fun" in aside from getting it out of the way as fast as possible

>>720000967
that shit is so broken lmao

>>720018182
>the charged single target laser (which doesn't work if you move?)
It doesn't work if the target's at too great an elevation difference (read: a few centimetres) which is retarded because the non-elemental projectiles don't have that problem, don't need to charge, use less energy, and deal more damage.

>>720000967
>>720018264
>>720018306
I must be missing something because that spell was so weak as to be near useless and I stopped using it. Also,
>rage has a lasso spell that's supposed to pull enemies into melee range
>the range on it is so abysmally poor that if you can even use it on an enemy to begin with they're already in melee range anyway

>>720018396
Are you thinking of the right one? Because right now, using that glyph, I can shoot it at a tethered enemy before their orb even appears and it one-shots their orb, then I can just smack them while they're animation locked or shoot them again if I've got the energy, I'm basically not even interacting with the combat mechanics anymore with this glyph

>>720018505
the spear chucker move is OP as fuck

>>720008567
>girlbosses
another word that means nothing anymore

>>720018396
510 damage is the highest single-instance non-charged damage value runes get IIRC. The damage has a few ties, but it's in no way bad

The lasso's main draw is the stun, not the pull. I don't even know if the pull works

>>720018551
>runes
Tier 1 runes*

>this lazy-ass font on everything

it's so bad lmao

>>720018715
Lmao holy shit I didn't even notice
Looks like a school powerpoint presentation

>>720018752
it's so bad

>>720014742
>Literally one just ONE top tier cute waifu waiting for you at home base would have saved the game from silksong

yjk

>>720018715
>>720018817
I was ready to pull the trigger on this, but wtf man

>>720019004
>>720006395

>>720019004
It is NOT a $70 game. $40 sure

literally me

>>720019141
>Guys I read Blood Meridian

>>720019141
Every time he shows back up I play the Ghostbusters theme in my head

WAYNE'S WORLD
EXCELLE-ACK

>game is low iq
>half thread is still people complaining about getting lost, missing obvious things and using guides
average gamer is subhuman

>>720019408
KEK

It's like a 7.5/10, but none of the puzzles are very hard. The game puts every note that is actually a puzzle hint in a separate category than the lore text so it's basically impossible to get lost. Plus most of the puzzles are insanely easy to brute force in a few minutes since they are all passwords.

>>720019676
Yeah every time the game asks me for four symbols I just learn three of them and brute force the last one
Hell with all the running you have to do I'm probably saving time by doing this

I already settled this.

The worst thing for a game of this type, isnt strictly to "filter" normies, but also lack enough substance to attract enthusiasts.

If you want some idea of what I mean. Read this:
Reposting my response to a post from a past thread
>>719855305
>The puzzles overall are not very hard... they're just standard Resident Evil type puzzles and never go beyond that. I was expecting some big brain shit like Outer Wilds but it was just password/code puzzles over and over. It was a good game overall but, but not amazing.
Basically why I dropped my hype on the game, for once a reviewer put it perfectly. Theres like zero interactivity with any of the puzzles. Its the effective equivalent of just pressing buttons in a correct order at every turn. No depth, No substance, No developments. Additional factors cannot be added to complicate something so fundamentally mechanically simple. Hence they can only stack how much you have to remember to press or so.

Which is Ironic, because Outer Wilds itself isnt very interactive, but its enviroment is very dynamic, so the game is about understanding how to find the order in the chaos basically. How to become "one" with the environment and flow with it. Not against it. Virtually every single outer wilds puzzle can be explained by this virtue.

And it is why, despite not having direct interactivity where the player can manipulate, effect, and change things naturally, logically as a direct course of an ACTION rather than "input".

The enviroment still gets to be interactive on its own, and engage you the player, and you engage it (Quantum stuff, Photographing. Its a feedback relationship, you need it to exist as something dynamic before you can stablize it without even interacting directly)

>>720021047
retard

>essaytranny
I shan't touch these threads then, even though I have stuff to share.

>>720021876
just ignore him
what do you have to share

>>720007402
>After giving up and checking walkthrough to figure out what to do in the Ligma Forge, and checking a guide
do plebs really?

>>720000808 (OP)
skyrim tier

>>720023183
I should have seen the four keyslots, seen my key, and immediately understood. But instead I was convinced for sone readon that the key went to a tower like the one in the Forest and didn't even try it in the door. That one's on me

Permanent missables are the dumbest fucking thing games do after time limits, so I make no apologies about double checking those before I finished Ch1

>>720018854
dios mio...

>>720019224
kek that's what I was thinking too

>>720021876
bump

I really liked the town on fire. Concise exploration with lots to see and do, and lots of Good Deed rewards. Very content-dense area that wasn't a fucking maze like the Forge.

alright at this point i'm pretty sure there's no secret ending and the post-credits message is bait to make you not immediately give them a negative review after that nothing

>>720025286
I don't mind the unskipable menu animation too much, but the travel ones really piss me off

>>720025869
thankfully they'rer skippable

>>720025941
It's still meaningless obnoxious delay. And you have to hold the button to boot

>>720026041
u can also just delete the movie files - same with the intros before starting the game

how woke is it?

>>720026142
define woke

>>720026142
MC gets saved by a girlboss before she dies
Main sidekick is old no-nonsense reporter who's also witty and a l33t hacker, woman
Her contact was a cool badass hunter that was also probably a lesbian
Side antagonist leader of the shadow military company you jack the equipment from is an old woman
Leader of the not-UN that all the NPCs can't wait to tell you is so cool and ice and awesome and a total badass is a single mom
MC is a blonde haired blue eyed literal sociopath

So not really

use spoilertags you fucking newfag

>>720000808 (OP)
wait a minute, that card...

>>720026839
Are these supposed to be the Timeloop guardians?

>Go through the story
>Ethnic conflict is perpetuated by glowies fostering it to their own ends and inciting violence using false flag terrorist operations and using the media as useful idiots
Big think.
>The peacekeepers are the only group no one has anything bad to say about, at worst you get a couple NPCs that say they didn't do much
Big question mark.

>>720017893
>line them with led
>led
>instead of "lead"

>>720027343
so many games nowadays have typos lol
it's embarrassing

this made me wanna take another look at the new indiana jones game but just 2 minutes footage disgust me
hell is us is simple but it should be the minimum standard for this genre (no corridor levels, no "objective: do x" always in the corner, no floating marker, no protag voicing obvious hints)

I done'st it

>>720027343
>>720027639
>he doesn't cover his dead enemies in gay LED lights after hanging them as a humiliation ritual

>>720018174
I really like the combat. It's one of the best western souls clones in terms of game mechanics. The only issue is that the difficulty is not that high.
>pretty good central combat idea focused on crowd control where you're given tools to manage enemy aggression (stun, aoe damage, pulling enemies close, etc) in order to deal with enemies in certain order
>ki pulsing that also regenerates health so you can stand your ground instead of dodgeslopping all around
>fun as fuck drone upgrades that turn you into a small mecha
Shame you're gimping yourself by not using polearm, it's too good.

>>720028060
it plays more like original nier than souls

>>720028060
>>ki pulsing that also regenerates health so you can stand your ground instead of dodgeslopping all around
Which gets cancelled by enemies attacking you which also interrupts most anything other than charged attacks unless you're using the rage buff.
Are you not playing on hard or have you not even reached tier 2 enemies yet?

>>720001598
Artificial lengthening mechanic of a solving trauma spots called timeloops. Enemies keep spawning from them.
The catch: Timeloop guardians just look like regular enemies.
The catch 2: Timeloop guardians are strewn across the entire region. When you defeat them all, or enough of them then you can access the timeloop
The catch 3: You need to have certain items with you to solve a timeloop, otherwise the place will just kill you. And you give the item to your drone which will solve the timeloop for you

I don't think the developers have thought this one through properly. It doesn't provide a good sense of catharsis, other than scratching one thing off your very large chore list.

>>720027936
Worth the money or nah? I'm on the edge of buying it but not so sure.

>>720009142
woah a skyrim reference!

>>720028367
Imo this is the definition of a game to buy on a 50%+ discount because it has flaws coming out the ass, but also, very few modern games are doing what it does. So you have to ask yourself if that's worth it to you now

>>720028367
I liked it quite a lot and I usually don't buy games at full price.
The slow piecing together of events past and present. through exploration is what I liked the most about it.
What is holding you back? Maybe I can shed some light

>>720028647
I don't want to spend 60 dollars on a game I might not play for 60 hours.
I generally like to at least get 1 dollar per hour of playtime in my games. Of course there are slim exceptions but still.

>find the journal in Talju about the computer password being the time the clocks froze on
>only compuer in the entire town I can find is in the pharmacy
>has a five digit password

Yeah I'm not the sharpest crayon in the toolshed but this shit annoys me greatly

>>720028308
Anon is a retard.
1. You get an item that directs you towards timeloop guardians shortly after unlocking the ability to close them.
2. Entering into timeloops without the right item does not kill you, you just can't close it. The drone is used so that it doesn't kill you, as a stand-in for trained owls that were used for the process in the past, as explained to you in lore documents.
3. Closing timeloops makes enemies in their vicinity stop respawning.

>>720028746
You should probably read that note again and think about what it actually says.

>>720028730
Then you should probably not get it.
I did everything in the game in about 39 hours, with just a tiny bit of guide checking for one cosmetic and 3 missing research items.

>>720019004
>>720019030

>>720006395
>>720018715
kek dropped

>>720000808 (OP)
it's not low ( below 85) and it is not high (above 100)
it is for midtards in between.

>>720028791
Got it

A lot of these make me feel dumb, but some of these really are just straight up impossible

>>720000808 (OP)
>I need daddy internet to agree with me
hell is us but incel is you

>>720019004
I think both of those are fine because I can tell myself that in-world and in-story, those things are not made by graphic designers.

>>720006395
This one is kind of egregious though.

first crash in 23 hrs

>/v/gros have constant threads calling games with 80k ccu failures and flops
>have no problem making generals and discussing actual shit flops with 4k peak ccu
kek you niggas are playing dead games that no one cares about

>>720028367
pirate it nigger, it was cracked day 1

>>720000808 (OP)
Your example is shit OP.
It's not a puzzle, it's a set of keys you acquire either as rewards for thorough exploration of for helping people.

>>720000808 (OP)
I played this right after mafia and holy shit it runs so much better.

>>720029623
welp

>>720029696
>I must only play and discuss games that are highly popular
What sort of dysfunction causes this? Swarthiness?

>>720007217
This x100.
There's way too much stuff that can only be done later.
I had like 2 pages long list of locations and unfinished stuff in them with a short notes about them.
Game does a relatively good job cataloguing some of these for the player but there are some questionable dev choices in this regard.
Like 'secret waterfall chest' in first forge room only appearing as secret for completely different later area where you find the key.
Or the part where started good deeds are all pixelated with zero explanation so if you have a bunch of them unfinished it's hard to remember which is which without external notes.
Also it would be nice if your datapad could log the interactions with computers in some way.

>>720007217
>>720030091
Based note chads. I had a wordpad on my PC open that I jotted down any useful info worth remembering.

>>720017893
>every Polomist is same person
lel
Different area, different customs.
The game did a good job to paint each group of participants as very diverse (sorry for the dirty word:) as far as their reaction to 'enemy' is concerned.

what did they change from the demo?

>>720030304
It runs much better.

>walkthrough vids on youtube have the entire game 100%'d in <13 hours
>i spent that long in chapter 1

>>720028308
>You need to have certain items with you to solve a timeloop, otherwise the place will just kill you.
You can just walk back and exit the time loop if you don't have required type of prism.

>>720029964
mafia is a fucking mess
hangar 13 are hopeless

>>720030334
Everyone who plays with guide is basically robbing himself of the experience.
No idea why people would even bother when the exploration and puzzles are the main attraction, since combat is serviceable but mediocre compared to combat focused games.

>>720026839
>solved the rotating blocks with 4 symbols puzzle in Act 1 because I couldn't find any clues whatsoever and the code had only 256 easy to check combinations max.
I like the game allows you to brute force some of these.
The code for conspiracy theorist's message on library PC was also solvable without all post-it notes as long as you had enough to realize what 'word' was used as guiding sequence.

>>720030334
I'm 18 hours in and still in Ch. 1

>>720030606
I'm not playing with one open, but I've had to consult one a couple or three times

>>720000808 (OP)
You don't honestly believe I've played that game anon? And you accuse me of being foolish?

>>720030982
I used it for clean up after I finished the game.
Despite it took me almost 50 hours I still missed 5 relics and couldn't finish a good deed because I'm blind and ESL.

>try the demo
>protag got the cursed zoomer hair
>david lynch type shit
>game wants to be a walking sim
>but also an action game without quest markers
yeah no thank you

>>720031236
>zoomer hair
retard
>david lynch type shit
double retard
>game wants to be a walking sim
triple retard

>>720031236
Holy mother of retards

>>720031061
So far in my case it's been one puzzle one mystery and one good deed, all of which I had the solutions for but was just being retarded.
>ignored key door in ligma forge
>forgot where i saw a clover-shaped slot
>didn't think to give what'sherface the map after i used the flame sigil to open the door she was trapped beind (it's funny that /v/ will make fun of it, but because she said "i don't know where to go" and not "i sure wish had a MAP or something" i didn't even think of it)
Honorable mention for the clock puzzle I guess that I got a hint for here

>>720031236
I wish the 'zoomer hair' idiocy would die.
It's normal hairstyle you could see through 80's and 90's and the difference is pretty noticeable especially if you look at sides.
MC's hairs match with the timeline in game and all the early computers and cassette tapes tech.

>>720031564
>normal hairstyle you could see through 80's and 90's
2/3 of /v/ wasn't born yet that's why they compare it to zoomer shit

hell is sus fr fr

>>720031721
He didn't ask for that haircut...

>>720031721
Yeah, the shaved sides totally match.

>>720031564
The fact that this game is literally set in the 90s escapes zoomers.

I didn't read any dev memos or tales but I have a feeling a bunch of content was cut.
You have 8 'enemy' emotions prominently mentioned several times throughout the game.
Even the very last area has gigantic reminders for 8 of them yet there are only 4 types used.
Also like 1/3 map is empty, including some high profile cities with important history mentioned in lore.

>Defeat all 5 Hollow Walker variants
FIVE!!?!
THIS GAME HAS ONLY 5 ENEMY TYPES?

>>720032030
It's like 14gb

>>720032030
5 basic types
1 giant
12 types of 'emotion drones' always tied to one of the normal enemies
some variations of the above list

>>720031564
they were probably going for this but it didn't work out - it just doesn't suit his facial structure

>>720000808 (OP)
due to race mixing 60% of kids today have african admixture and an iq of 60 games need to be made for that target audience. this puzzle might still be too hard.

>>720031721
retard

>>720000808 (OP)
I'm not saying it's bad, but after trying the demo, I'm disappointed that a rich story and cool scenario are wasted on a fantasy souls-like game.

>>720031950
It escapes everyone and that's fair. What it shows in terms of tech and aesthetics is not 90's at all. They may as well said 'alternative 2010's' or whatever.

>>720032337
>in terms of tech
>old boxy cars everywhere
>cassette tapes and tape players everywhere
>early PCs with monochromatic display

>>720032267
why do retards keep calling this game a soulslike?

>>720032516
they're retards

>>720032429
Need I remind you that you carry a fucking future tech drone on your back?

The cars are EE specific. You can still find those the further east you go. Cassette shit is more 80's. 90's were about CD's. Same with the mono-colored PC's.

>>720032337
it's an alternate 1993 with some more advanced shit like the drone but most thinks are still very early 90s

>>720032337
>everyone
Projection out the ass with this post

>>720032516
That's what I experienced from the demo. I know you don't lose anything by dying, but the structure of the sections, moves, and stamina management are similar to a Souls game.

>>720032590
>thinks

things*

>>720032618
ahh yes the drones hurling you forward like Stinger screams Souls and having a drone which is basically the book from Nier and the same weapon types also screams Souls

>>720032618
retard

>>720032685
don't forget the Nioh heal

>>720032337
CDs weren't that big until the mid-late 90s. Tapes were still the go-to in 93.

>>720032516
Because it is, but it's barebones and the mission design has other priorities.

>>720019408
underrated kek

>>720001105
>pay attention and remember shit
Or just write shit down on a piece of paper. A high IQ game gives you all the pieces of the puzzle and asks you to solve it, and the puzzle itself is hard. A low IQ game tells you to go find 5 pieces of a puzzle and then get back to the puzzle room from 5 hours prior, and there is no actual puzzle to solve when you do, that was the "puzzle"

>>720032567
>a fucking future tech drone on your back?
It's an alternate history where we got tech from the weird anomalies you dumbass.
>Cassette shit is more 80's. 90's were about CD's. Same with the mono-colored PC's.
No those are late 90s. This game is set in the early 90s. Besides it's a fucking isolated slavic inspired shit hole so it makes perfect sense for the tech to be slightly behind everyone else.

>>720032685
I'm sorry, but I had a different experience with Nier. Even the level design is more like a Souls-like game.

>>720032772
i guess nier gestalt is a soulslike too

>>720032837
>same basic weapon types as Nier Gestalt
>same moveset and charging attack and various abilities
>drone is basically Weiss but less shooty

>>720032837
you're probably thinking of automata or the replicunt remake you filthy secondary

>>720032567
>The cars are EE specific. You can still find those the further east you go.
No you can't, unless the original owner left his Lada to rust in some barn.
Posting from EE, if I got a bit farther I'd meet angry Ivans shooting Ukrainians.
>Cassette shit is more 80's. 90's were about CD's
This is early 90's and isolationist country.
>fucking future tech drone
Irrelevant because MC stole experimental tech form shadowy cabal run by global bankers, oil magnates and industrialists.
It's shown in game it's experimental and it isn't representative of country tech level.

>>720032892
Nier is more action-oriented with a different type of level design and character and combat management. I'm sorry you were triggered, but that's how it is.

the glowy weapons just look so jarring to the game's overall theme

>>720032824
You can type out an entire brain gymnastics article for all I care but the game still wouldn't feel like it's set in the 90's.

>>720018715
>All that samey font
Ain't JJB the art director for this? Quite a step down from nuDeus Ex desu.

>>720033024
>Nier is more action-oriented

so you were thinking of Automama

>>720032917
called it

>>720019337
lel

>>720033071
it was pretty obvious because anyone who has played the original Nier agrees this is just as clunky and basic

>>720032973
>Posting from EE
t, lives in a city

>>720001245
Somehow, their cawing doesn't irritate me, while the song of other birds I find quite annoying.

>>720033110
it's just also the weapon types being basic as fuck gear you just upgrade and having a flying companion help you out
some of the enemies in this are also pretty bullet helly

>>720033039
And you can project as much as you want but it doesn't change the fact that all of this is entirely a (you) problem and not the games. Nobody else has difficulty telling that the game is set in the 90s. It's just (you).

>>720033113
Not sure if that was supposed to be some counter argument but I half of my extended family still living in boonies.
Everyone who's not a poorfags has SUV to show of to his neihgbors and even the poorer families have 2nd hand western cars, not old commie clunkers.
This is not recent trend either, it started in late 80's when we kicked the commies out.

>>720033195
You sound like a dev defending your ill-defined game

>>720033338
And you sound like a retard seething his retardation is getting called out for what it rightfully is. Seethe more you dumb, whiney faggot.

>>720033039
feels like it to me

>>720033039
retard

>>720031985
The 4 types we already got are not very distinct.
Making another 4 would be just a waste.

>>720033313
It means that when you drive out of the city and into regions that this game portrays you still see those cars driven around by people because the roads there can be real fucking rough and modern cars are not built for them, or they'd rather not use their shiny SUV to traverse muddy, asphalt-less roads after a rain has pored over.

>>720001105
not me making notes of all the things i want/need to revisit
excuse the spanglish language

Finished and plated.
Pretty good game.
If only there was a bit of replayability, but I guess that's too much to ask from story heavy games.
Wish devs get enough sales for part 2.

Spoilre questions for other anons who already finished:
Was the giant egg an alien spaceship or some god like being from outer space?
I kind of don't get the part of lore where Sethyris fought with the serpent, got hurt, left his eye (spaceship?) for his people and fucked of to Sirius.
It's sounds like there were 2 space factions waging war.
How does the whole heavy-emotions-cause-time-loops-that-spawn-demons thing work?
How comes this happened after the ancient wise men tried to extend the emotion suppression field of the Egg to cover the whole country?

finally finished with this game. took me 32 hours.
not great, not terrible
>>720031985
>You have 8 'enemy' emotions prominently mentioned several times throughout the game.
>I have a feeling a bunch of content was cut.
I second this.
last timeloop features all 8 emotions and you can close it with only 4. something isn't right.
also post credit message implies more content/DLCs

>>720011129
>no one is talking your bait
>except for me

>people actually had trouble getting into the forge

wat

>>720033158
Crows can be pretty annoying too. They have this begging call that is very grating.

man that dungeon was kino

THE SORROW

the focus on crowd control is underappreciated
I am getting tired of souls 1 v 1 arena duels so this is refreshing

pals are batshit insane
sabinians did nothing wrong

>>720032153
It's probably partly that the rendering makes it look too sleek and shiny when it should look a bit more frazzly.

>>720036040
Nah, each faction had it's own share of assholes and atrocities .
Sabs has lord Aster who broke country wide alliance because he wanted to be sole ruler of Hadea.
Murdered his own daughter's husband so he could sic his clan on enemies he framed for the murder.
Drowned the country in blood and caused 2nd calamity.
Even tried to weaponize the loops and demons.

>>720032805
when I realized this was the game I uninstalled.
it sold itself as a mystery puzzle game but it's just scouring a map to find keys to doors.

I was expecting the Ziel niggers to be the Teaar cult reborn, pitting Sabs against Pals. Guess that wasn't the case? Also no idea what the Eye of God was supposed to be, but it looked like it was made of Lymbic shit maybe.

>>720032805
>>720032824
The game has both puzzle types.
Not that it stops brainlets from uninstalling when they start assuming every single puzzle is 'use 5 keys 5 hours later' type.
For example see Jeljin cemetery puzzle or Watcher's nest coffin one.

>>720037941
I can't link for shit, the 2nd one should link this post >>720037661

>>720037691
>Guess that wasn't the case?
No it was bunch of extremely wealthy outsiders using the country as lab for experiments with limbic shit.

>>720037941
>Not that it stops brainlets from uninstalling
if the first ~4 hours of the game shows you nothing but doors and keys, what kind of psycho would assume it's different later?

>>720038250
>you don't see the whole game content in first few hours
The one that has still more than 3 brain cells alive?

>>720038250
I'd get it if you dropped it before 2 hours were up and refunded but since you didn't you could have asked here about puzzle types instead of assuming shit.

>>720038361
does the game really have more puzzles that aren't doors and keys? a lot of the complaints from later in the game I've heard are along those lines.
I'm assuming there's a handful of combination locks you have to think about and that's whats keeping you on your high horse.
>>720038538
I investigated everything in the starting area then got to the second area and investigated everything in your hometown.
the literal hardest thing in the game to that point was getting turned around a little following the kids notes to open the box in the forest, and that wasn't even a "puzzle".
I felt that was a pretty good representation of what I was in for, was it not? how much more would I have to play till the real game started?

>>720033059
>Ain't JJB the art director for this? Quite a step down from nuDeus Ex desu.
He posted 3 examples + perhaps some suspicions of AI on some of the portraits.
Graphic design overall is so good.
My disappointment is all those items and documents for the most part aren't actually important and containing critical clues you have to study and decrypt. I was disappointed the language is auto-translated too.

They made all those gorgeous parchments, maps, etc. and they're just fluff instead of conveying clues. There's that one drawing for the blue flower lake and it's ruined because NPCs still spoonfeed you too much. It can't just be you finding a clue and deciding to act on it, the game still has to have dialogues to direct you to follow up.

Actually it's kind of crazy how much effort they put into some small details, but didn't think to add more enemy variety, wrong priorities. When you remember the director is an art director rather than a game designer suddenly it makes more sense.

There are a lot of details that haven't mentioned but for example when you help the two NPCs at the chapel, after they vanish, there's one less car in the parking lot. Or when you give the UN woman a change of clothes, her uniform is left behind. Tiny background drawings in some rooms and they all seem handcrafted, the calendars say 1993 even though you can't zoom in, all the different sigils that contribute to worldbuilding and environmental storytelling, etc. So many details like that.

But then it also has baffling obvious misses like dialogue options not taking into account things you've already found. Like you can't tell the library stoner that his colleague is dead but you can keep asking him where he is instead.

So much wasted potential to make a real detail-oriented archeology/detective adventure/mystery.

About to play Hell is Us (only played the demo).
Anything I should know about (no spoilers) before starting? I tweaked the camera settings (what were they thinking) and did some basic tweaking.
Any missables / point of no return / quest line that breaks if go to far?

>>720032516
the combat in the game is soulslike combat so its easy to think that even if the structure of the rest of the game bears no resemblance to that subgenre at all.

soulslikes are entirely combat focused and all about moving from checkpoint to checkpoint, you lose your whatever when you die, it's assumed that the games are more challenging than average, there's a good amount of boss fights, etc. none of which describes this game.

>>720041072
>quest line that breaks if go to far
yes
by advancing main story you can fail unfinished good deeds

>>720041072
Some side quests(called good deeds) can fail if you progress the main story too mcuh so general rule is try and do all the side stuff before doign any main story if you care about doing everything. Think that's about it. I don't think anything else is missable.

>>720031950
>>720032337
There're literally 1993 calendars on the walls

This is what Hadean women dream of

Why do the silicon men have rock candy in them?