Thread 720005687

Where can we take Batman games from here? What would your dream batman game be after Arkham Knight?

>>720005687 (OP)
Batfamily tactical turn based game. Literally just do Midnight Suns but Bat.

>>720005687 (OP)
I hate that they took the word "goon" from us.
I don't want to be a henchman, I don't want to be a thug, I don't want to be a crook.
I wanna be a goon dammit. But they've changed how the world sees that word.

>>720005687 (OP)
Hopefully nowhere. Just let the franchise die already. The trilogy is complete no need to fuck it up with more trash games.

>>720006431
>henchman
Henchperson

>>720005687 (OP)
Early Batman story that takes place over a whole year with different weather and calendar based missable events and such. Bonus for utilizing something like the nemesis system to grow the goons

>>720005687 (OP)
I always thought they should have done a Catwoman game. Her sections were always fun.

>>720005687 (OP)
A direct follow-up to knight? Just go straight to batman beyond. As an entirely stand alone title trying to do something different? Cassandra Cain kung fu focused street level game.

>>720006431
hench4life brother…

>>720005687 (OP)
I always saw Co-op batman as the next step for the series. Then they decided to do that but without fucking batman. A game all about batman and robin fighting together just makes sense, some of the best parts of Arkham Knight was when you were doing just that

>>720007408
Imagine all the sex countermoves we'd get

>>720005687 (OP)
The new Lego Batman game looks to be Arkham 5 in all but name, so instead I'd like something arcadey. Either something in the vein of the Sunsoft platformer or a beat-em-up.

>>720006431
yeah, it's been completely dumbed down

>>720006431
is this post ironic? goon meant thug decades before it had anything to do with jerking off

>>720005687 (OP)
I've been thinking of playign the man games again but I've already played them :/

>>720006431
the turkey man? i like it.

>>720005687 (OP)
Full on detective game where you solve murder mystery like obra din without knowing if the answer is 100% correct pr not with combat that of team ninja

Lego Batman will fix

>>720005687 (OP)
>Batman Beyond
>Map about the size of Insomniac's Spiderman
>Actual bossfights
>Story written by Scott Synder and Paul Dini
You can keep most of the stuff from Knight.

>>720011389
You are very autistic.

>>720007408
Eh, I think the reason why it ever worked was because there weren't a lot
Catwoman herself is really boring so I'm not sure if she could legit hold a full game herself

>>720011389
Are you literally brain damaged? Reread that post

>>720005687 (OP)
Arkham Beyond with Terry
And all the characters, especially the chicks, keep their proportions from the tv show

>>720006104
its the only way. Mixed with Paul Pope's Year 100.
Batman, on his 100th anniversary in 2039, is revived by Lazarus Pit or whatever and tasked with saving the world from a coterie of costumed villains
Planet Arkham

>>720005687 (OP)
Can we have fun, campy Batman again?

>>720011660
>>720011739
please be nice...

>>720012128
hmmmm
nyo!

>>720007408
>>720011704
I hate zoomers so much it's insane.

>>720005687 (OP)
I don't know who drew that, but I need them to know I appreciate the LEGO henchman face.

>>720005687 (OP)
>Where can we take Batman games from here?
Kevin Conroy is dead. As far as I'm concerned, DC should just retire the character altogether.

>>720011246
>new Lego Batman game looks to be Arkham 5 in all but name
Except it's fucking Lego. Which completely ruins it.

>>720012696
I care more about the gameplay than the presentation.

>>720006431
there is another

>>720006210
Batfamily fans don’t like or understand Batman

>>720011964
>Paul Pope's Year 100
My fucking nigger.

>>720012118
Just do a game where the bat multiverse gets bat fractured and different areas of the batmap are different eras of Batam along with the playable Batman getting changed with the area

>>720014160
>multiverse
ew no thanks

>>720014231
thats bat multiverse you uneducated ruffian

>>720006431
What's the deal bat guy I'm just goonin here!

>>720012503
Do you think Batman didn’t exist before TAS, dipshit?

>>720005687 (OP)
I want a Batman game with a real Batcave. The giant penny, the T-rex, all the trophies along with a batcomputer you can use. Change costumes in the armory, and actually speed out of the cave in the batmobile

>>720014773
You can do all of that in Lego Batman 2 but, you know. Lego game

>>720014773
Wasn't the batcave in arkham knight

>>720014889
Origins had a Batcave. But it was more for show

>>720014889
No, there’s only a gay watchtower. Arkham City had the batcave as a challenge map. I think it had the T-Rex. And the VR game had a full batcave but no one cares about VR games

>>720014889
>>720014926
And Origins Batcave was like year 2 Batman with no cool shit in it. Car wasn't finished, neither was the cave.

People really want that "Batman Experience" just to look around the cave, and then speed out of it in your car with the Batman theme blaring. That's the good stuff.
>Press X to pet Ace

>Arkham Beyond
It would be a hard sell. Beyond isn't so popular it could sell to normies who know next to nothing about Batman besides the names of his big villains. Especially not now there's no Conroy to do Old Bruce and Will Friedle has retired from Terry McGinis without Conroy to act alongside.

>>720005687 (OP)
The lego game unironically looks like a better arkham sequel than the two studio killing flops

>>720006431
You can still use Crony

>>720012118
You had it, but people complained it wasn't gritty and dark like BTAS.

>>720005687 (OP)
Make an isometric Batman game.

>>720015869
>invent an OC Donut Steel nemesis for Batman
>it's some Cosmic DC tier bullshit
Props on them for keeping Joker out of it as long as they did but wow, they had no idea what to actually do with the concept in the end

really hope the new lego batman game has tight controls
there are so many fun looking lego games but holy shit their kbnm controls ass and has been for two decades

>>720015552
>It would be a hard sell
I mean that was basically the initial reaction to AA when it first got announced.

>>720016073
What the fuck are you talking about? Mite Fall is one if the most well regarded animated batman things out there. Literally a perfectly ending to a show like tBatB

>>720016073
This is bait right?

>>720012503
Not the character altogether, but definitely the Arkham series. If they HAVE to make more like it, then just name it something else. Let the series rest with Kevin.

>>720016546
>Literally a perfectly ending to a show like tBatB
It's literally the showrunners bitching the show got cancelled when they had plans for another full season at least.

>>720017052
And? Every show ends eventually, having your silver age batman show end with an actual going away party was a perfect choice. Also do you seriously not know who batmite is?

>>720006431
>I don't want to be a henchman
speak for yourself

>>720005687 (OP)
>Joker
>Bane
>Penguin
>Riddler
>Mad Hatter
>Falcone
>Maroni
>Two Face
If you had to work for one, who's the ideal villain to work for?

>>720017394
Bane, by a lot. I mean it depends on the interpretation of course but on average he's going to the mist "fair" and level headed of that bunch.

I want a mega autistic super difficult detective game that's set in Gotham

>>720017394
Mr. Freeze

Just throwing it out there in the future, but what about an Absolute universe Batman game?

>>720012863
I'd rather not throw all my standards in the trash but you do you

>>720016452
At least the regular Joe could sort of understand who Joker, Bane, Poison Ivy and Scarecrow were even if they'd never watched the animated series. Beyond is limited almost entirely to itself and comic spinoffs only read by people who cared about the show.

>>720018251
Not him but one could argue these lesser knowns in Beyond mean less likelihood of the general audience having hangups about execution. For the most part it would be fresh and new to them

>>720017052
Being able to have an entire episode devoted to calmly wrapping up your own show is the most any of these projects can ask for. Case in point, the only thing anyone remembers about BtB is that is was teased there.

>>720018251
If you smack BATMAN on it and market it correctly people will come. The real challenge would be finding a studio that could actually do it justice.

>>720007007
The man in henchman stands for human.
The term would be exclusively masculine if it were instead "henchmale", "henchwoman" and "henchperson are therefore redundant terms.

>>720012503
Man, his voice was cool as fuck and all but it was also consistently flat. Every single fucking line was delivered the same way. Batman isn't the most expressive character in all comics maybe and Arkhamverse Bamham is experienced and a badass but still, he's still a fucking human

>>720017394
Ignoring all the meta shit, Falcone because he's really just a regular business-like human mobster. He's destined to lose and/or die really early, way before most of the other characters in that list even debut so that kinda hampers things.
Pingwin is also Falcone but a bit more over the top in most iterations, I guess he would be the most ideal realistically.

>>720017394
The regular mobsters are ironically probably the least likely to kill you and/or send you to your death just because.

>>720005687 (OP)
WB is so fucked that they aren't doing shit.

>>720018973
They're more likely to do that than Bane.

>>720006431
goon has been a degen term since somethingawful though.

>>720005687 (OP)
60s batman game

>>720017394
Honestly Riddler, he's got his stupid OCD shit but he's not likely to kill you over a fuck up. The Bat isn't likely to crack your skull either, since you're usually doing low level crime, and by the time the riddle gets solved its usually the boss vs the bat.

>>720019069
Bane only had three cronies he ever cared about, any regular thug is disposable to him

Honestly, I'm just not too fond of the Bat.
He gets to beat and injure a person and gets called a hero for it, but if I do it they call it assault to the third degree.

>>720005687 (OP)
The only reason these games were good at all was because it was Rocksteady who made them. I have no hopes for any other titles.

>>720018973
Sounds good until the Penguin makes a move on their turf and you get shot in a drive by

>>720019454
Falcone/Maroni will hit you with an "Eyyyy, gabagool!" and shoot you or throw you under the bus because they're stereotypical Mafia guys. Penguin will do the same because he's insecure and thinks you looked at him funny.
Bane just won't give enough a fuck about you to do that because he's on his own grind for his own mission with schemes inside of schemes.

>>720006431
also those stupid movies ruined calling goons minions

>>720018835
Minor detail but I hate how all the Rocksteady games got rid of his grunts of effort/exertion after Asylum. It was a minor detail but it emphasized even as a peak human this shit wasn't easy for him. Only Origins brought the grunts back.

>>720019384
Yeah but you got to hide all the stupid puzzles around town just so the bat wacks you and you tell him where they are anyway
Not worth it

>>720019916
Well he's gonna beat you up regardless of your faction

>>720019384
>he's not likely to kill you over a fuck up
He killed Kite Man's son that one time

>>720019916
Bat doesnt need to whack me, ill tell him where it is with a really easy riddle

>>720021006
We dont talk about King batman

>>720021463
They just rebooted to Batman #1 and Alfred's still dead. His legacy endures whether we like it or not.

>>720019459
Are you SAVING people anon?

>>720021917
Saving them from boredom unlike that caped freak.

>>720021006
That was attempted character assassination from a gruntled writer and you know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEge8e0qBNE

Whatever they do, hire the dialogue writers from City lmao

>>720005687 (OP)
the new lego batman looks unironically good

>>720012118
How about a Batman that isn't a psychopath ninja and goes back to his super intelligent quasi vampire hunter roots?

MOM SAID IT*S MY TURN TO BE JOKER NOW!

>>720018747
>The man in henchman stands for human.
No, it most certainly does not. The plural of henchman is henchmen.

gonna post some underrated, underdiscussed batkino

The arkham games are too good, I don’t know how they could follow them up today

>>720015869
Just started rewatching this show and it’s fucking kino.

>>720022685
Yes? Plural of human is humen
Or are you one of thoze guys who went to "college"?

>>720022502
Stupid storyline but Catwoman Beyond can get it in all nine of her clones

>>720006431
damn SA for taking it from us...
oh you're talking about your cock aren't you

>>720022971
Bruce fantasized about this at some point

I LIEK CHOCOLATE MILK

Did you guys know that Gotham is cursed?

>>720023942
Multiple curses even!

>>720023942
By an ancient lovecraftian evil... (Arkham.... geddit??!!)
And if I remember correctly the Council of Owls storyline ended up as some kind of cosmic shit too.

>>720023968
Really? i just found out this little piece of lore.

What about instead of fighting the crooks, Batman just kisses their bellies until they surrender. And right before he kisses a belly he goes "Bat-kiss!" and little hearts show floating on the screen.

>>720024146
>By an ancient lovecraftian evil... (Arkham.... geddit??!!)
It's all adding up now lol Also yeah Court of Owls had some supernatural elements iirc

>>720024146
>"The Parliament of Owls in and of itself was founded by people descended from the Tribe of Judas, who worshipped the Bat God Barbatos. Its true mission was to infect the blood of a son of the House of Wayne who had been prophesied to take on the persona of a bat, with five metals originating in the Dark Multiverse."
>"Whoops it wasn't secret organisation but Gods and Dark Multiverses"
Good thing I realised a long time ago I am not in the target audience anymore.

>>720006431
I just call the generic henchmen in my setting "soldiers".
The more advanced and powerful henchmen who actually pose a meaningful threat to the protagonist are " warriors", "assassins" and such.

>>720024648
That's a nice caste system but "soldato" is a pretty high rank in organised crime if that is what you are going for.

>>720019384
>Wants you to go get something from the store for him
>Instead of telling you he gives you a riddle
Fucking Supermarket Sweep over here

>>720025770
>taking advice from what is basically the worst Batman

>>720005687 (OP)
That's not how the Fear Multi-Takedown works.

>>720015869
People don't know what they missed until its gone.

take him out of Gotham City. That's the problem with those Arkham games. They all look the same past a certain point.

>>720026359
The aesthetic is part of the appeal.

>>720011008
Nauseating. Imagine all the herpes shes collecting.

>>720026664
they've made like four or five of those games at this point though. Batman can go other places.

>>720017274
What do you think i means

>>720018025

The 90's called, they want their edgy tryhard comic back

I just watched the Penguin. What did I think of it?

>>720012118
a campy batman game would be so kino, fund it

>>720017394
>Joker
You're more than expendable, you're an inevitable punchline, you're gonna have to do some fucked up shit and it's not even clear if you're gonna get paid. If you're ex circus you may get better treatment
>Bane
If he's in his default state, great guy. Cares for his henchmen, smart enough not to get you caught. If he's been juicing he's a meathead that may use you as a melee weapon
>Penguin
Actual businessman, can probably keep your goon job quiet for a while under him. He may freeze you to death in the iceberg lounge if he thinks you're mocking him.
>Riddler
You will be tasked with painting questions marks all over city hall. He will call you stupid. Still better than most other options
>mad hatter
You don't want those allegations on your record
>Falcone
Old style monster, bit of class to the gig. Hemorrhaging guys to the gimmicky villains due to changing times. Best linguini you ever had.
>Maroni
Same as falcone but tagliatelle
>two face
If you survive the interview coin flip he's surprisingly competent. Expect plans to pull constant 180s though

>>720026359
Gotham in kight was fine, but it suffered form the same kind of empty feeling other big open world games have. asylum has a much smaller map but it was way denser and felt more alive because of it. the gameplay really shines in tight spaces and you can tell the devs knew it because any time you had to actually do something in knight it would switch to those smaller arenas.

i think a map the size of city with way more density and one that isn't empty like knight would be best. Gotham works because its just a theme, nobody gives a shit about the layout, not like how spiderman needs to be in a city that resembles new york

>>720021401
>It's okay, if I run into bats 'll just tell him immediately without any strugg- ACK!
>TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW!
>IT'S THERE! THAT'S ALL I KNOW! I SWEAR!
>good choice
>*WHACK*
The house always wins.

>>720033703
I wonder how many people Batman has accidentally killed by punching them in the head.

give cat milkers

What I don't get is why the goons always act so eager and cocky and keep up the "it's the bat, kick his fucking ass" attitude in a brawl even when Bat is just flying all over the place knocking people out and breaking limbs but in stealth sections they start getting scared real quick

>>720034059
they're in the heat of the moment fired up and fighting in the brawl and can see the guy to try to punch him
when it's stealth, they're just getting picked off one by one and don't even see the Bat doing it

>>720005687 (OP)
I want a game based on the comics where batman dies/disappears and nightwing becomes Batman and Damian his Robin.

>>720033824
You joke, but at this point people are so far removed from reality they think you can't kill someone punching them arbitrarily hard unless you flip a conscious switch which lets you do so

I unironically think a live-service/episodic/whatever game with Batman would work, as you could have supervillain of the week type events, batcave customization, management minigame with brucecorp, regular criminal events for grinding, and all sorts of shit happening in gotham like gacha games or I guess GTA Online do it?
WB really really wants their live service slop game, but somehow instead of doing it the way it would work they tried with a SUICIDE SQUAD LOOTER SHOOTER
I swear WB is the most incompetent IP holder on Earth

>>720022502
>joker with norwood 5
grim

>>720017394
>If you had to work for one, who's the ideal villain to work for?
Depends on the iteration of Batman. Like for example, Penguin, sometimes he's the most "reasonable" of Batman villains and a guy who you can mostly work for normally. In others, he's a schizo who'll torture you until you commit suicide because he heard you snicker while talking to someone else and instantly assumed it was about him.

>>720035562
>I swear WB is the most incompetent IP holder on Earth
Yep, they're even worse than Disney. They're managing to speedrun bankruptcy while holding many of the best IPs on Earth.

>>720035342
I blame movies and media in general. And all the fake fights kids watch on tiktok and instagram, nothing more than pack versus one humiliation rituals.

>>720025770
Fuck I read it in his voice

>>720005687 (OP)
Arkham series still has a solid fanbase. Just make a new one that isn't 50% tank battles and have actual boss fights. Story isn't an issue since you could just set it after AS.

>>720012118
Isn't that what the Lego Batmans are for?

>>720017274
Anthill bros we're running this board.

>>720005687 (OP)
Adam West 60s Batman game

>>720006431
How's "mook" work for you?

I am sad how unfun all the villains were in these games
>Jonkler
Only one real gadget he can reuse. The others are single use or just a function batman has without a gadet but worse
>Catwoman
Janky ass movement, supposed to be fast but has BY FAR the slowest takedowns in the series, lackluster gadgets again
>Harley
So lacking in actual abilities one of her tasks is to just cartwheel 3 times. No stealth take downs (except over ledge, which is both still stealth and completely rboken). Enemies just become immune to her main gadget if you use it a few times. Can inexplicably jump 50 foot in the air for no apparent reason; didn't even try to give a fitting movement tool

Even batwoman was better and she's just batman - a few tools

>>720023909
Based

I was obsessed with batman as a kid but only played some of the pretty shitty games at the time and watched the tim burton movies.I was planning on watching some of the 60s batman but what animated show should I add on top of that?

>>720005687 (OP)
Batman Beyond, but as a prestige hand drawn 2D Metroidvania with RPG elements. Cyberpunk SOTN, basically. Also, Old Bruce Wayne would basically be Adam from Metroid Dread/Fusion.

>>720042646
Sounds neat but it would be dog shit somehow.

>>720042401
Something keeping you from watching BTAS?

>>720043338
No I just never watched any of the animated shows so I know almost nothing about them.

>>720043413
Go ahead and watch BTAS, then. It's pretty good.

>>720006431
Yeah

why are faggorts so obsessed with batman beyond? was terry your gay crush? modern batman is already 'futuristic' compared to the 90s, and they can just keep rebooting batman in the modern day, making modern batman more and more futuristic. there's no need for a next get future batman.

>frogposter
>retarded
It's okay buddy. We know.

>>720043413
Watch this too

https://youtu.be/kjFx8qqa8_8

>>720042646
Old Bruce being Batdaddy and providing all the tech would also make the Other M idea of abilities being already installed but just locked until he gets permission actually make sense

>>720022793
>>720024109
Looks cool, but where can I read them online?

>>720044293
Or you could start with Terry seeking his father's killer and unlock more abilities as he becomes a better Batman. I.e. start by discovering Batarangs, the wings are a double jump, the jet boots are like Space Jump, the cloaking device works like the one in Metroid Dread, etc.

>>720044565
https://readcomiconline.li/

>>720005687 (OP)
>What would your dream batman game be after Arkham Knight?
A greater emphasis on mysteries and detective work instead of freeflow combat and boss fights. A greater challenge to the foundation of Batman's moral beliefs over not killing criminals, and whether or not a supercriminal ever can or will be redeemed.

I doubt we'll see it.

>>720008519
This, just rewrite it so that Bruce went into hiding after Knight and did stuff from the shadows until he got too old. (Finance wise he just had many investments and bank accounts under false names etc)
Then Terry stumbles onto the Batcave or something and Bruce makes him the new Batman.

Sigh, the Arkham Knight ending really made it difficult to adapt the Batman Beyond story.

>>720043960
I never watched it but from the few snippets I saw online I thought the way the new generation of villains was written alongside the geriatric characters was pretty cool. Kinda like how Ace Attorney is now post apollo justice

>>720043960
I thought it was shit before I actually watched it. It's a lot better than it makes itself look at a glance. Soulful even.

>>720042646
I wish we could get a game that looks authentically Bruce Timm.

>>720005687 (OP)
Just let it stay dead forever.
Even the new upcoming lego arkham game that looks really promising is already trying to push a woke kike narrative. Do I have to mention the games that came afters Knight like Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad?
It is literally impossible for a good non-comprised batman game to be released in the current era.

>>720043960
I'm not one of those but the suit's pretty cool + him beating up the joker by fighting dirty was memorable enough for me.
I should rewatch it someday though to see if the show actually holds up today.

>>720048749
>I thought it was shit before I actually watched it

It's been so long since Arkham Knight they could just make another by the numbers Arkham game with some incremental upgrades and I'd gobble it the fuck up.

>>720017394
In canon Bane takes care of his henchmen well. Riddler too.

>>720014160
>Just do a game where the bat multiverse gets bat fractured
Someone should fracture your ass for even suggesting that holy shit.

HAHA GOONING GOONER GOON JACKING OFF LMAO SO FUCKING FUNNY

>>720050115
>>720017394
Kinda makes me wonder if among the giant catalogue of villains, they thought of one who abides to the same retarded no-kill rule Batman has, and avoids as much as possible putting his goons in danger

>>720017394
I'm not much of a batbuff but surely there must exist some hot women baddies to simp and work for.

>>720005687 (OP)
Wayne Enterprises business management game.
>Change funding and projects based on criminal and hero activity.
>Employ former goons to unlock tech and info based on thier former employer(s)
>Provide disaster clean up and resue services

If you're over the age of 16 and still into capeshit you are possibly a tasteless retard.

>>720028423
We're keepin it

>>720050341
Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn (solo), and maybe R'as Al Guls' daughter.

>>720050484
I'd rather have fun than taste.

>>720050484
Says the frogposter....?

We need a Thomas Wayne game in the style of Max Payne. That would be so fucking sick.

>>720050571
Ivy doesn't have henchmen, just thugs and cops she's drugged on a temporary basis
Talia has no need for henchmen because she's got the entire League of Assassins
Harley actually had her own thugs after Joker died

>>720050571
>>720051064
Alright thanks, batbros. I'll goon for Harley.

>>720051064
Then I guess we just gotta go with some Wonder Woman villians since Batman usually deals with them more than anyone else.

>>720050031
Maybe going smaller instead of bigger is the way. Maybe even return to the asylum.