Thread 720007749

What was it about the cast of this game that made people go completely feral over them? I've seen more people selfship over this game's cast than I ever did for the original game.

First.
I broke this thread's hymen.

silksong is beating it with how many people want to fuck hornet

>>720007749 (OP)
pretty generic furry characters compared to the real game

>>720007879
People have always wanted to fuck Hornet, that's nothing new, I'm talking about people who have become completely and utterly obsessed over the characters.

>>720007749 (OP)
because it was AU autism despite trying to place it
AUfags are some of the most ravenously autistic retards on the interbutts because they get to twist the original even further to include their donut steel OCs

>>720008112
it is only AU because the devs fucked with flowey's timeframe

>>720007749 (OP)
The mandatory bad endings made people desperately want to save the characters, the bad writing made the writing conscious desperately want to fix the writing, and of course people always want to sex the cute furry girls. Combine those elements and you have a perfect storm for self insert OCs.

>>720008304
Flowey being present in the game doesn't make it an AU, there's nothing contradictory about Flowey's presence or character in UTY.

>>720008338
I'd say the only real instance of bad writing is the fact that Ceroba was the one who injected Kanako with the serum, mostly everything else is kinda just fridge problems.

>>720008695
>3 adults are fine with a child killing himself and let him do it

>>720008753
>implying this is anything new for the UT universe
Alright, they could've handled that a bit better, but the idea itself isn't out of place for UT or it's world. Self-sacrifice is a much more common thing in fantasy worlds, so people in those worlds really aren't going to see it the same way we do. It's like how people don't see Goku hitting Gohan as part of their training the same way people see a father hitting their son in real life, the tonal difference of the two worlds makes the act itself different.

>>720008596
the contradition is flowey existing at all and having interacted with another human before frisk

>>720009245
And why is that contradictory?

>>720008894
it's just so jarring and antithetical to what it feels like those characters would do

>>720009507
A bit, yeah, I agree. I think the mod Shades of Justice handled the ending better, with the main cast deciding to stay by Clover's side until they die, but there are probably other ways of handling it better too.

>>720007749 (OP)
Having finally played it I honestly don't know. What I assumed to be a major character has a single scene and then fucks off until the end credits. The rest of the cast is like that. A lot is a implied but little is shown. Except for Martlet who you can straight out removed from the story and nothing would change despite her having the most screentime.

>>720010110
it still feels like the game is rushed despite it taking 7 years to release

>>720010110
>What I assumed to be a major character has a single scene and then fucks off until the end credits.
Are you talking about Toriel? Why would she have been a major character in this if we already know from the first game that she didn't have a lot of time with the fallen children?

>>720010432
I don't blame you for forgetting Dalv, but damn.

>>720010631
Oh, him? He has multiple scenes in the dark ruins, and I've heard you can actually go back and talk to him later on if you head back to snowdin, but I've yet to actually see this for myself.

>>720007749 (OP)
reminder that roba is fat

>>720007749 (OP)
>I've heard you can actually go back and talk to him later on if you head back to snowdin, but I've yet to actually see this for myself.
you can if you go back to snowdin after the dunes, but all you get is some flavor text

I got around to doing two out of the four drawing requests I took on the 18th of last month. I've been fairly busy since then, so I haven't all the time in the world to sit down and draw, but I'll try and get to the remaining two before too long.
Here's DRY Martlet passed out after a long day's work: https://files.catbox.moe/saj71x.png

And here's DRY1 Cole posed in the style of the RDR2 cover: https://files.catbox.moe/byci6j.png

It's my first time doing anything like this for this place, so go easy on me, but criticism is welcomed.
I will return with the remaining two ideally before the month is out.

>>720011807
nice

>>720011807
Hey these are pretty good.

>>720007749 (OP)
What does selfship mean
Is that like a friendship but it's just you involved? Because I think that's just called wanking

>>720012332
People online who aggressively "ship" themselves with fictional characters, to the point of being weirdly possessive of them.

>>720007749 (OP)
Legit thought you were talking about nuDUUM with that post, nodded in agreement, and was confused as to what the doodles were about.
Apparently it's that fukken' homestuck or whatever bullshit so I've lost interest in this thread

>>720011807
was honestly expecting martlet to have fallen asleep on the couch, but that works.

>>720012421
that's just waifu/husbandofagging
fucking hate how reddit took over these threads

>>720007749 (OP)
>selfship
Your head should be caved in with a brick.

>>720012567
Ah, sorry about that. I actually did think about doing something like that at one point, but I opted for a bed instead out of simplicity.

>>720012332
Relationship. They draw themselves fucking the depressed fox widow.

DRYanon2 here.
long story short:
silksong

for the same reason, i will not be doing greens this week.

>>720012587
Hey, not saying I do that, I'm just making observations.

>>720011807
that's pretty good!

>>720012526
Who was self shipping doom characters?

>>720012526
Once again my dumb in-joke claims another victim.
I am neither proud nor sorry.

>>720012580
I'm not even talking about reddit, I've seen people on twitter get really aggressive over this shit, to the point that they label themselves "non-sharing" selfshippers and get into fights with anyone else who happens to like the same fictional character as them, and I've seen this happen a ton with Ceroba and UTY characters specifically. I swear, something about these characters just messes with people's heads.

>>720012728
DRY2 is cancelled forever, you heard it here folks.

>>720013478
you jest but at this point i think it'll nag at my mind forever unless i at least get a ch1 release out.

>>720013420
>twitter
same shit and you're still just describing waifufagging with retarded terms

>>720011807
cool, if you have a gamejolt account you could post your DRY1 RDR fanart there, just change the "DRY1 anon presents" part to avoid confusion
>I will return with the remaining two ideally before the month is out.
Which were those two?

>>720012728
At least you have an excuse. I'm just a serial procrastinator, who turns an afternoon long task into a weeks long one. I suppose I could blame it on JoJo brainrot, but half the time I wasn't even doing anythin JoJo related.

As a side not, I've been playing Seventh Stand User, and now I'm wondering if Toby got the item shop vending machine idea from that.

>>720013904
>I'm just a serial procrastinator
oh no im that as well, realistically if i just focused i could've had the battle system in a month and that basic tech demo would've been out ages ago.

>>720012728
Is Silksong worth checking out for someone who likes Metroid but hasn't played Hollow Knight?

Naranjanon here, I have no updates this weak either, for the same reason DRYanon2 gave >>720012728

>>720013729
>cool, if you have a gamejolt account you could post your DRY1 RDR fanart there, just change the "DRY1 anon presents" part to avoid confusion
I do not have a gamejolt account, nor do I have any sfw art account of any kind where I can/will post these to, though that second part may change depending on how I feel.
>Which were those two?
A request for "Susie and Roba solving difficult puzzles", and a recreation of the scene from DBZ where kid Trunks punches Mr.Satan, but with Shu being punched in the face by the protagonist of Undertale Naranja.
I hope to have these finished soon, but I'd like to get better at drawing furry heads before I draw Ceroba for that first one, and I'd like to make at least a small image of Goku before I make that second one, because I absolutely refuse to let my first piece of what is ostensibly DBZ fanart include fucking Shu of all things.
I should have a decent bit of downtime over the coming week, so I hope to have one or both of these finished before the next thread arrives, but we'll see what happens.

>>720014048
>Is Silksong worth checking out for someone who likes Metroid but hasn't played Hollow Knight?
I'd recomend you play HK first, Silksong is way harder and the early game is going to kick your ass if you didn't play the first game

>>720013420
this degree of waifuism is nothing new on the internet, things have been diluted for a while but that level of possessiveness has been on 4chan for literal decades. I've got my own level of obsessiveness with the characters in the game but there have always been people like that chick that walks around with ENA dolls in public saying she's married to ENA, or the likes, and many more that have that adamant "shes mine not yours" type of autism. Personally I just love the bird a lot and am glad there are people still wanting to talk about the game and characters since I didn't play the game at release.

>>720013982
> i could've had the battle system in a month and that basic tech demo would've been out ages ago
Same

>>720014152
> I'd like to make at least a small image of Goku before I make that second one, because I absolutely refuse to let my first piece of what is ostensibly DBZ fanart include fucking Shu of all things.
You should draw kid Goku, because he's best Goku.

>>720012728
yeah been playing it this weekend instead of working on DRY1

I guess I somehow am magically the only dev here to get any work done this week, despite being a lazy bastard. I have my first set of actual sprites made for the game.

Fox girls are penultimate furry appeal.
>Dog but more graceful and elegant
>Cat but I dunno nigga longer muzzle, fluffier tail

>>720016676
Foxes are just more feminine dogs, with an added element of exocitism, physically. However, their personalities are vastly different. Foxes are little gremlins.

>>720016676
>penultimate furry appeal.
So what's the ultimate then, wolf girls?

>>720017329
sparkledog

>>720017329
Dragons, tied with wolves as ''holy shit why does every important corner of ancient human history and religion has something to do with dragons and wolf girls?"

>>720017879
What are they from?

sparkledogs are the niggers of furries.

>>720017971
Yugioh, respectively
-Saffira, Queen of Dragons
-Buster whelp of the Destruction Swordsman

>>720017879
Hm. Well, UT has a dragon girl, but I actually can think of any wolf girls in UT or DR.

>>720018109
>Well, UT has a dragon girl,
Who? Alphys is a lizard.
>but I actually can think of any wolf girls in UT or DR

>>720009302
Because no matter how you cut it, flowey wouldve caught that human's soul and become god, only way uty's plot works is if you lobotomize flowey to the point where he cant even do something as simple as killing martlet before clover can get to the mtt resort's roof, he has many ways to easily get clover to the human souls' room, and even if not, he could simply absorb clover's soul and win, because flowey wouldnt suddenly just give up on the souls even if you're going by uty's logic, he has enough patience to do everything that the world has to offer, so him suddenly going "oopsie i got bored trying to get clover to give up and let me get control teehee teehee!!! Time to reset!" makes no sense and its only there because the devs dont want to break canon, flowey's existence before the 6th human's fall IS enough to break canon because flowey would never canonically give up on that sort of power and freedom from his monotomy.

>>720018324
>Who
Isn't bratty a dragon or something? She always reminded me of those chinese noodle dragons, but maybe I'm mistaken.
>pic
Isn't that the DR equivalent of the Ice Wolf guy in UT? More specifically, isn't that a guy?

>>720017329
Quadruped Fox girls

>>720018562
>Isn't bratty a dragon or something?
Alligator
>Isn't that the DR equivalent of the Ice Wolf guy in UT? More specifically, isn't that a guy?
Ice Wolf's gender is never actually specified in either game. However, it is seen wearing feminine clothes, has feminine eye lashes, and has feminine name (Faw Faw) in Deltarune.

>>720018527
>flowey wouldve caught that human's soul and become god
Ignoring the fact that Flowey tries to do the same exact thing in UT and fails miserably, yeah, sure.
>he has many ways to easily get clover to the human souls' room
Flowey's problem isn't getting into the room, it's getting the souls at all. In UT we see that he's only ever able to get his hands on the human souls once you've already taken care of Asgore for him, but never in any other context, except for when he's absorbing everyone else in the true pacifist run.
>because flowey wouldnt suddenly just give up on the souls
Did you play UT? Flowey literally gives up on using the six human souls against Frisk after the first time you fight him like that because he knows they'll rebel against him again, that's literally in the game.
Flowey isn't some cunning mastermind, he's just a guy with all the time in the world on his hands and a willingness to do trial and error for god knows how long, but he isn't omniscient or omnipotent. Literally one of the first things we see in UT is him being bitch smacked by Toriel.
Completely ignoring UTY for a sec, Flowey almost never succeeds in any of his plans in-game, and he *never* succeeds in any actual direct conflicts we see him in. He gets bitch smacked by Toriel, he loses against Frisk with the six souls, and he loses against Frisk as Asriel. Nothing Flowey tries to do against the player ever actually works out, and we know from various other official sources (like the official UT tumblr account, other shit Toby's posted, etc) that Flowey isn't even always successful against other monsters either.
Flowey being in UTY and not getting his hands on the souls, or Clover's soul specifically, makes perfect sense when you consider what Flowey's *actually* capabilities are, and don't just pretend he's completely unstoppable.

Need feedback on something: how big of a deal is a hard 30 FPS lock for a UT fangame (which is how it is in the original)? I originally planned to add variable framerate via motion interpolation, but software rendering is a bottleneck that effectively makes this useless. Vid related sort of demonstrates what I mean if you read the logs.

>>720016341
Guess again, bucko! My game is """"""playable"""""!
In all seriousness, I'd say your progress is more noteworthy than mine.

>>720018761
>Alligator
Ah, my mistake.
>However, it is seen wearing feminine clothes, has feminine eye lashes, and has feminine name (Faw Faw) in Deltarune.
Hm, maybe you're right on that one. I do find it a little interesting that the UT version of the character doesn't have any clothing, but the DR version does.
Also, it feels weird that I haven't seen too many people thirst over what is, by your account, a completely jacked wolf girl who can lift what's gotta be over a ton of ice.

>>720018996
>Guess again, bucko! My game is """"""playable"""""!
Jokes on you, I did that two weeks ago.

>how big of a deal is a hard 30 FPS lock
I don't care what the FPS is set to as long as it doesn't mess with my monitor's refresh rate.

>>720018527
>he has many ways to easily get clover to the human souls' room
According to this logic, he would've had his hands on the souls well before Clover fell down anyway, because nothing about Clover's presence in the underground changes the state of the already present human souls.
If that's the case, why doesn't Flowey have the human souls by the time Frisk falls into the underground in UT? Because your logic is bullshit, that's why.

>>720019056
I think I may be the only person to put 2 and 2 together here. I could be wrong about it, but this does feel like a prank Toby would pull on people. Putting a jacked anthro wolf girl who walks around naked 24/7 in his game, but then never saying or implying she's a girl until ten years later. Plus we know jacked tomboy furries are Toby's type.

>>720016676
Foxes seem like that until you find out about the smell

I really hate C++

>>720019458
Then they become the ultimate furry appeal

>>720019458
Ah, this again.
I mean, you could always just bathe them.

>>720019481
It still giving you trouble?

>>720019576
Aliasing std::vector with a using statement causes all the iterators on foreach loops to break, and the only workaround is to directly include the vector header for it, no clue why this is the case.

>>720019503
No, I mean foxes (real ones) have a musk gland like skunks, they exude a smell you can't just bathe to get rid of. Maybe it's possible to remove the gland; there is a breed of domesticated foxes created by Russian breeding experiments, complete with physical characteristics, and to my understanding they also stink, but maybe they wouldn't if you de-glanded them like you can with skunks

>>720019256
Because flowey couldnt get asgore to show him the souls, meanwhile, asgore has no problem with showing the souls off to the humans before his fight happens, as seen in undertale, so all flowey has to do is to get clover to fight asgore on the barrier room and flowey can access the souls after asgore proudly shows em off to clover. YOUR logic is bullshit given that explanation hasnt even crossed your mind.

>>720019721
Skunks only stink when they spray something.

>>720019887
And foxes mark their territory instinctively

>>720019752
No, it crossed my mind, but what about this-
Why the fuck does Flowey even wait for you to fight Asgore instead of just swooping in and stealing them as soon as Asgore pulls them out?
Also, we know that Asgore doesn't just keep the souls locked down 24/7, because the DT used in Alphys' experiments came from one of the human souls, according to the true lab data entries. So, clearly Asgore is willing to pull out the souls in contexts other than for harvesting another soul, so why doesn't Flowey just wait for one of those occasions to come up and try then?

>>720019923
And primates instinctively pick fleas out of each other's backs and eat them, yet you don't see people doing that.

>>720020619
But what if?

>>720018929
>Ignoring the fact that Flowey tries to do the same exact thing in UT and fails miserably, yeah, sure.
It fails because frisk can reset and reload, clover cant, so flowey has infinite attempts to get clover to give up from despair, unlike with frisk.
>Flowey literally gives up on using the six human souls against Frisk after the first time you fight him like that because he knows they'll rebel against him again, that's literally in the game.
Yeah, because theyll remember what happened during the fight after the reset happens and theyll rebel when flowey tries absorbing the souls, thats why he gives up after losing despite being able to oneshot frisk a million times and even save over frisk's death on the omega flowey fight, he simply cant start the fight again.
>He gets bitch smacked by Toriel
And he wouldve tried to kill us again if we didnt have the ability to reload, which is why he doesnt try to kill us again after that til the game's end, he knows it would be futile and that we'd be able to predict his attacks eventually.
>he loses against Frisk with the six souls
He missed his chance by getting cocky enough to get the souls to rebel.
>he loses against Frisk as Asriel.
And the power of friendship and talk no jutsu got him to give up, plus him thinking that we're chara.

None of these issues wouldve happened if he had control over the timeline and resets, in which case, he doesnt have any excuses for giving up like a pussy. Flowey's capabilities are way bigger when he has control, so if he wanted to torture clover until they give up, he would win, if he wanted to get clover to asgore's location, he had more than enough ways to get clover there, you dont need any brainpower to think up of something as simple as "kill martlet before clover gets to her so clover can reach the castle."

>>720020672
>we used to get greens like this on a daily basis
so why isn't nu-/v/ going out to make unhinged greentexts right now?

>>720020904
Eh, I could probably write something on similar levels of unhinged as that, but I'm not actually into piss, so it'd be disingenuous of me to try and write something like that.

>>720020024
>Why the fuck does Flowey even wait for you to fight Asgore instead of just swooping in and stealing them as soon as Asgore pulls them out?
Well, Asgore has fire magic, and because you STILL have power over the timeline, it'd mean that flowey cant afford to get burnt alive because, for all he knows, he would be forever unable to come back to life if you successfully escape the underground and never look back, it was easier for him to wait for you to win than to risk his own life for an early victory.
As for the alphys' experiments... didnt they happen BEFORE flowey first woke up?

>>720020870
>so if he wanted to torture clover until they give up, he would win
UTY explains that away by showing that Clover simply doesn't give in when Flowey tries to absorb him, and given what we know about how souls work in UT, that's a perfectly viable explanation. Even ignoring Frisk's (or more accurately, the player's) determination, we know that Flowey can lose control over the souls even when he has perfect control of them just moments prior, so the idea of him being unable to absorb a single soul isn't unfeasible in the least, it fits perfectly with UT's established lore.
>And he wouldve tried to kill us again if we didnt have the ability to reload
Cool, so why doesn't he just try and jump Frisk once Toriel leaves them alone for a bit in the ruins? Matter of fact, why does Flowey take his sweet time gloating before actually trying to kill you when you first meet him if he wants your soul so badly?
If Flowey actually meant business he would've just skewered Frisk the second they woke up after falling, but instead he sits around talking his ass off doing a fake tutorial bit instead of doing the thing he supposedly wants to do more than anything else in the whole world.
Gee, it's almost like Flowey isn't actually infallible and actually makes constant mistakes that fuck him over all the time, whaddya know?

I'm still toying around with that UT Purple idea I had a while ago. Since it has two party members, I figured it would only make sense to add another one to round it out to three. One character fights like a JoJo character (with lots of strategy and tricks), and the other character is a massive JoJo reference, so I figured why not go the whole distance and make the third guy literally monster Speedwagon.

So now I'm thinking this character is Monster Kid's grandfather, and his role in the party is mainly as a healer and to cast support spells, since the other two party members are a human and a boss monster (and both have arms).

Made this shitty sprite edit in ms paint to get the idea across. I wish could think of some decent colors to palette swap him with though.

>>720020904
be the change you want to see

>>720021123
>Asgore has fire magic
Yeah, so does Toriel, and Flowey survived a direct hit from one of her fireballs in the opening.
Not buying it.
>As for the alphys' experiments... didnt they happen BEFORE flowey first woke up?
Yes, but that was just an example of the fact that Flowey doesn't necessarily *need* Asgore to show him the souls in the barrier room, since there's a historical precedent for Asgore bringing out the souls in other contexts, meaning Flowey could potentially have the chance to steal them even without a living human active in the underground. Hey, we know Flowey can imitate voices pretty well, why not just use Alphys' phone to call Asgore and ask to take another DT sample from one of the souls? That'd probably be a pretty good way of having one of the souls hand delivered straight to him, but as far as we know, he's never tried it.

Wonder if the pregnancy anon's gonna show up in this thread too.
If you're reading this, hope you've been doing well for yourself.

return to form this week?

>>720021270
>UTY explains that away by showing that Clover simply doesn't give in when Flowey tries to absorb him, and given what we know about how souls work in UT, that's a perfectly viable explanation.
Everybody's will breaks if you torture them enough, it doesnt matter how many times clover refuses to give in, theyre bound to give up at some point. Plus, this next part might be a bit headcanony, but i would say it makes a lot of sense, even if it wasnt directly mentioned in-game, i feel like the amount of control over the host's body depends on the souls' will, like, IF clover was tortured to the point of giving up, whats to say theyll have the strength to continue fighting back after theyre absorbed by flowey? Chara and asriel obviously had a lot of will in them to retain control over azzy's body, and it takes frisk begging for help to get the souls to rebel against flowey, basically regaining their will to fight back. Its not unfeasible to think that flowey could make clover cave in with enough effort.
>>720021270
He doesnt try to jump frisk when theyre alone because he already figured out by then that you have control over the timeline??? He knows it wouldve been pointless to try to kill you again because you wouldve reloaded and wouldve learnt how to predict his attacks, its not rocket science, i already said that he knew it would be futile.
Flowey takes his sweet time trying to kill you at the start of the game because the game makes it clear that flowey is sadistic and has been mentioned to fuck around a lot when he had control over the timeline, so of course he was messing with frisk before killing them, he thought that everything would be fine and that if he failed then he could just reload, he didnt know you had control over the timeline when you appeared, so he couldve killed you frame one, but he didnt, because thats how his personality is, he would rather torture you than kill you right away.
He's not Mr. Efficiency, sure, but that doesnt mean he-

>>720023921
-would be a tarded jobber who would let a human soul slip by because "hurr why didnt he do everything perfectly!?", flowey is just stumped by the fact you can reload and doesnt get many chances to shine, you really dont need to think so much to figure out why flowey would not let clover's soul go instead of breaking clover into giving up

>>720023921
>i already said that he knew it would be futile.
Having control over the timeline only makes these efforts futile for as long as you're willing to get back up and try again, but we know for a fact that there are certain situations someone with that power can end up in that are still unwinnable, such as attempting to spare Sans in a genocide route.
If Flowey just kept attacking you with no one else around to help, he'd effectively have you in a softlock, at which point the only way for you to get out is to simply give up, and let him have your soul. Flowey even mentions this possibility in-game, saying that once you give up, control of the timeline will return to him. So, with that said, why doesn't he do this? It clearly wouldn't be completely futile, because we know that the world continues on without you once you're dead if you give up, as evidenced by certain characters in-game continuing to speak to you after you're dead.
So no, your argument doesn't work here, there's a valid way for Flowey to have gotten what he wanted even without control of the timeline, one he alludes to in-game, and he never tries to do it.
If he didn't try and get Frisk's soul with the method I just outlined above, it's not unrealistic for him to have cut his losses with Clover after a certain number of attempts.

Ah, 3 am.
Hopefully the thread survives the night, it's been going pretty well so far.

Look, all I'm saying is that Karl Pilkington's theme has a bit of Undyne leitmotif in it, alright?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlSKbMqw0D0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApWpYmO7G28

>>720025832
I guess, but only part of it.

>>720021450
Didn't Flowey mention in UT that no matter what he did he could never get Asgore to show him the souls and that he was too weak to take them by force?

>>720027296
I was arguing that Flowey isn't actually as capable or cunning as people (namely the guy I was arguing against) seem to think he is.
Yes, he says that, and that's my part of my point. Flowey's existence in UTY isn't a problem because Flowey himself isn't actually a threat in most direct conflicts, and even when he's being sneaky and manipulative his plans still tend to blow up in his face, so him being in UTY doesn't contradict UT because it's not necessarily the case that Flowey would actually be able to get what he wants then either.

>>720027378
But I mean Flowey is competent he is just very weak. He know the outcome of every possible action. I do agree with you though. His existence in UTY is not a contradiction and is outright necessary for the story to make sense.

Martlet is just tall Alphys. Sad but true.

>>720028132
Martlet is an nonentity and is devoid of any personality apart from being nice and clumsy. Alphys is a fully formed character in contrast.

>>720028114
>He know the outcome of every possible action.
Not really, he just knows the outcome of every possible action *he's* ever taken. He's inherently prevented from knowing certain things, and given that some events in UT are literally only able to occur based on effectively random chance (the FUN events), that means certain circumstances in-universe can only ever come to be based on random chance, as opposed to the intentional actions of a person's own will.
Anyway, I appreciate you agreeing with me though, just had to get that out of the way.

every undertale game sucks except for undertale green
ya just gotta love the codester baby, ya just gotta!

Mhm. Good thread.

I am sorry for ever doubting you Flowey

>>720030602
I remember someone once made a comic about Clover waiting for Martlet to come back before heading into the steamworks because they didn't trust Ceroba because in old fairytales foxes are always sneaky, and Flowey was just like, "Yeah, fair enough."

>>720030820
she's just so dumb that Clover had every right to ditch her

>>720031168
She's not dumb, she's just not experienced or knowledgeable with technical stuff, which is fair for someone who's spent their entire life out in the underground's middle-of-nowhere.

it's shitting on ceroba hour i see

>>720031268
Well, she's not tech-savvy, and she never noticed that her husband's big science award is made out of cardboard and macaroni, and kids can talk her into letting them commit suicide, but it only happens OCCASIONALLY, it's not like she makes a habit out of it, there's still plenty of unkilled kids in the Underground, so she's not THAT dumb.

>>720031743
>she never noticed that her husband's big science award is made out of cardboard and macaroni
It's been a minute since I've played the game, and I can't tell if that's a joke or not. Help me out here.
>kids can talk her into letting them commit suicide
See Goku analogy somewhere earlier in this thread.
She's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

>>720031743
>there's still plenty of unkilled kids in the Underground
if toriel wasn't a coward those kids would be as dead as all of the human ones that fell under her care and all just to make asgore look like an idiot

How old are you guys?
I’m 23 and I really can’t will myself to enjoy undertale adjacent games anymore

>>720032036
Okay, so if I'm reading this right, you're saying that if Toriel wasn't a coward, every child in the underground would be dead?
Alright, interesting point of view, didn't see that one coming.

>>720032068
Age has nothing to do with it, you just got jaded on it, it happens.

>>720032068
23 as well, love them and im making my own fanproject.
sucks to suck i guess.

>>720032125
most of them yes

>>720032278
...Is that what you want?

>>720032068
i'm 25 and i think you're a fag

>>720032332
i'm just saying that toriel is far worse than ceroba

>>720032640
Yeah, I basically agree with you, I just think you got it across in a really weird way.
I think what you meant is that if Toriel wasn't a coward there'd be *less* dead children in the underground, right? Unless you mean for her to have done what Asgore was doing by herself, which is a very different thing from what I'm thinking.

>>720031268
>husband manages to keep an entire lab under the dinning room table a secret
>Ed discovers said lab within minutes of cleaning
>lets husband work himself to death
>fails to purify the blue SOUL serum
>goes against her late husbands wishes and is convinced by a child to test the serum on her
>kills said child
>'You Tried' plaque

Her entire family has the collective IQ of my shoe size

>>720032735
Alright, not to defend Chujin or anything, but some of what he did requires at least some amount of technical intelligence. For as shitty and malfunctioning as Axis is, he's still got some pretty good mechanical and software engineering behind him, even if he apparently doesn't have a functioning IFF system.
As for Ceroba, like I said, she just doesn't have any technical experience with that sort of thing, and Chujin was actively keeping secrets from her, so you can't expect her to go all Sherlock Holmes on her own husband, can you?
As for Kanako, she's a child, she gets a pass.

>>720032705
i meant that if she hadn't been hiding in the ruins all of those years but had still split off from asgore she would most likely find a way to get an even higher bodycount of dead children than she already has

>>720033030
...How?
I mean, she was already pretty hands-off with the various fallen children, I don't know how you expect her to get even worse by not being there, seems like you can really only go up at this point.

>>720032991
Chujin has all the resources in the underground and he still fucks up. So many time that even Asgore can't tolerate it anymore. Even still he uses Axis behind his back and unsurprisingly it malfunctions killing a human.

You don't need to be a Sherlock to notice there is a massive underground bunker under you dinning room table and that the person you are living with is pretending to have a job.

But sure Kanako gets a pass for being a child.

kanako was actually the smartest of the fox family because she realized that ceroba, in her vast retardedness, would somehow kill her in the most painful way possible.
so she she tricked ceroba into giving her a painless death, the plan's only flaw is that ceroba managed to fuck that up too and turn her perfect death into eternal torture.

>>720033832
b-based?

>>720033641
>Chujin has all the resources in the underground and he still fucks up. So many time that even Asgore can't tolerate it anymore. Even still he uses Axis behind his back and unsurprisingly it malfunctions killing a human.
Oh yeah, bad decision making 100%, but you can't make a robot without at least something going on behind your eyes, even a malfunctioning one.
>You don't need to be a Sherlock to notice there is a massive underground bunker under you dinning room table and that the person you are living with is pretending to have a job.
Eh, depending on what their job actually constitutes, you'd be surprised how easy it is to keep a secret like that. As long as the person who would be questioning them doesn't actually know much of anything about what the details of that job actually are, it's not hard to make up a convincing lie. Ceroba doesn't know much of anything about the technical stuff Chujin worked with, so I doubt she'd really be able to tell if he was lying about any of it, because what basis for comparison would she have had?
Also, hiding a bunker in your house is way easier than it sounds, as long as the rest of the house isn't obviously warped or uneven where the room is, and the entrance to it is covered most of the time, it can be hard to notice. Also, even if they do notice the room, most people wouldn't guess that it's a super secret science lab hidden in their house for whatever reason.

>>720033832
>perfect death
If only Clover used their soul blast on her...

>>720034060
>brings Kanako back from the dead
>soul blasts her because muh justice

UTY was so close to being peak

>>720034557
>blasting Kanako into smithereens for no reason
"I hope you come back good next time!"

>>720032068
28...

Still love the games.

Touhou fangame anon here:

1: Anybody tried this: https://kristal.cc/
2: Anybody a huge Touhou fan here?

Besides Kanako did the story leave any plot points unresolved?

>>720035495
Did they ever reveal what happens to Kanako after true pacifist?

>>720035775
What happens to Kanako is just that she stays in the true lab until she gets sent home like all the other amalgamates after the true pacifist ending in UT.
Ceroba herself says she's given up on Kanako recovering unless a miracle happens in the lab, and that's more or less what this is referring to.
Kanako stopped being relevant after she was injected, her character was meant to serve as an incendiary reason for why other characters act the way they do, she isn't an important character or plot element by herself, so she's not really unresolved, because there isn't anything to resolve in the first place.

>>720035775
Nope. There is a bunch of fanart depicting that stickman that tucks Frisk in bed as Kanako but that's not canon.

Kill foxes.

let me guess you want more

>>720038062
I want to go back and finish them off as Frisk.

Man I have to wonder how bad Clover has to be for Flowey to just accept his death in the pacifist route as the best possible outcome

ENTER

what if clover got aids

>>720041336
he'd be locked out the pacifist ending because his soul wouldn't be pure