Thread 720012707

It's way too hard for it's own good.

i have silksong fatigue

>>720012707 (OP)
A month from now the changelog is going to read about fine tuning the game's balance, and all the faggots on /v/ are going to backtrack.

Wish we were able to equip two crests at once. This way you can switch on the fly for different encounters/ platforming

>>720012707 (OP)
skill issue

>>720013413
they probably are going to tune it down. Don't know how though.
they've made adjustments to HK in the past.

>>720013616
>No DMC style switching with crests
These assholes took 6 years to make this and they didn’t think of that?

as it turns out, game's CAN be too hard
let's not do that again

>>720013708
I hope they just add a easy mode and leave the difficulty as it is

>>720012707 (OP)
It's easy as piss, anon.

>>720013413
i think act 2 and onwards is totally fine.
they just need to lower the hp for fodder in the first two areas or something

>>720013708
They'll adjust the obvious things like giving some enemies less hits to take down, touching boss doesnt hit you for two masks, bosses drop rosaries

>>720013918

i swear if its one thing they should change its those fucking birds crazy high health pools, with respect to their movement and attacks

the game isn't that hard, I just beat the bell beast on my 5th attempt. Margit was way harder.

>>720014108
the savage beastfly is the margit of this game

why can't i reload this

>Anons have to retry boss fights instead of getting it in one go
>Game is considered too hard
I thought this board hated casuals

Do you guys feel like the camera is a bit too close in Skong? I think zooming out a bit would be better.

>>720013708
Just make the regular enemies a little less tanky, especially the high mobility ones.
The little red ant dudes should go down in 4 hits of the base needle

>>720014061
Shakra literally tells you not to go over there when you meet her, it's your fault for going to an optional area early and it being too much for you.

>>720014365
kinda agree. find myself needing to look up/down to watch where i'm going a lot more often than i did in the first game.

>>720013616
Honestly. Only being able to change at bench and the fact that memory upgrades only apply to that crest basically means you choose one early and stick with it.

I'm still using my starting one and probably will the whole game outside of maybe a couple bosses

>>720012931
This
>dozen threads up at all times because faggots need to have xheir extra special fotm gayme bread instead of posting in an already active one
Worst type of posters. Maybe games should cost a gorillion dollars to play just so retarded thirdies won't spam the internet with circlejerk bait

>>720014232
it's actually widow

the traversal is the enemy more than any of the bosses. exploration is an endurance test of bouncy spike traps.

>>720014314
no one actually likes difficulty
we moved past the no continues from the 90s, now people are waking up to how stupid difficult bosses are

>>720013918
>>720014376
That sounds fucking terrible. I hope they don't change anything because of you retards. Learn to avoid things.

>>720014376
They do, the guards are meant to be tough regular enemies.

>>720014434
on my playthrough i died a bazillion times to the boss on the west side, gave up, ran around for a bit doing sidequests, and only then did i come back to the swamp city and go east
i thought shakra was talking about the boss for some reason so i ignored her and did all of the east content anyway, and only then (and after getting reaper) did i kill the boss on the west

Is this all /v/ is going to be for the next three years? Endless shitpost threads made by shitter trannies seething about how games are too hard? It's Elden Ring all over again

>>720014061
>NPC tells you area up ahead is hard because the enemies are annoying
>Get to area up ahead
>The enemies are annoying
WOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOW How was I supposed to know???!!

here's how to avoid a good chuck of damage
the parry window is a lot more generous in this game than in hollow knight. I could count on one hand the number of accidental parries in a hollow knight playthrough, but in silksong it happens constantly
a lot of the 2-mask damage enemies to is in a series of quick hits, I think you see where I'm going with this
if you spam attack if you're about to get hit by a whirlwind of blades you always just parry several times in a row and take no damage
you're welcome

>>720012707 (OP)
I'm having more trouble than I thought I would, but it's mostly been me getting used to the horizontal pogo and being too overconfident.
having big fights after pogo platforming is pretty annoying though.

Are you guys dash attacking? It's really good on lots of enemies and you can dash away to remain safe. I feel like the combat system is actually really well thought out but people are just trying to walk up and face tank which is obviously having poor results. The fact that Steam reviews have dropped to 80% positive almost entirely due to shitters unable to cope with a decently hard game is really depressing. No wonder every new action platformer game launches with piss easy baby mode experiences designed to make you feel "epic" and "badass" like Shinobi and NG:Ragebound

>>720012707 (OP)
I installed the mod to disable double damage. One hit = one mask. Game is much better now.

>>720015213
When do you install the mod that removes your penis?

>>720015267
Cope and seethe

>bird gauntlet? not hard
>Savage Beastfly? 3rd try
>Sinister? 1st try
>Judge and Widow? 3rd try
>new Path of Pain? 45 minutes
You people have no fucking idea what hard actually means. This bitch is raping me and I lost count of the attempts.

>>720012707 (OP)
it's actually hard? I was gonna wait for the 6 DLCs, but I may have to pirate it now before they nerf the difficulty

>>720015402
Lace is not that hard, definitely easier than Judge and Widow
you can bait out her attacks and punish her with a head bounce every time, just gtfo if you proc the parry
hell some of her attacks dont even do 2 masks

Its a good fight tho

already backed up the files for the inevitable patch

>>720013918
that would make the game shit, anon.
They might tune down the health, but should not reduce dmg taken.

>>720014254
how the fuck does anyone play this game without controller. It's so fucking aids.

Most who are complaining about difficulty are people who got old and now dont have reflexes like they used to. like me

>>720016681
Cope

>>720016908
Pretty much. I am 40 so my reflexes suck, plus I wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed when I was younger. It is fucking over for me.

>>720012707 (OP)
thats what she said

>>720012707 (OP)
Its Act 1 just spiking the difficulty up to mid-end game HK near the mid point thats the issue.
Act 2s difficulty settles down fast.

>>720012707 (OP)
It's the Elden Ring of this generation.

Always heal when you can regardless of how many masks you're missing, even if it's just one. If you're at full health use your skill skills. Attacking enemies when you have a full silk bar is just a waste.

overcooked

What the fuck do I do with this "magma cube"??

Why in the hell are tools binded to the magic button with a direction input? Are they fucking stupid?

Savage beastfly in Far Fields is easily the hardest boss in the game. Such bullshit

Is Bilewater optional?

>lets make the metroidvania into kaizu level mario volgar the viking levels of bullshit instead of an actual metroidvania
wow bravo
hollowknight fans suckin this shit down pretending to like it is probably the funniest part.

>>720019514
It's an easy input anon, don't say you're struggling with it.

>>720019560
once you get it in your mind it's an rng boss (not even kidding) it's not too bad but it also doesn't make the boring run back and rng rolling any less annoying

>>720019629
>he didnt finish Act 1

It's not too hard
I just think Contact damage is a tired mechanic and games are better without it.

>>720019630
I am NOT STRUGGLING with it, I just hate how uncomfy it is and would rather have a button separate for each tool

>>720014061
The only egregious one is the triple knife thrower, and you fight maybe one or two of them before you get silk storm which eviscerates the entire area.

Just join the 41% and then you don't have to worry about beating your pleb FOTM slop anymore. Works 100% sisters

>>720014552
this game took 7 years to make
sekiro came out in 2019
these retards spent so much time workin on this that they didn't have the foresight to know that gamers would get tired of this tedious LE HARD nonsense

>>720013616
That would have been fun, and with all the design choices and enemies it feels like Cherry is against that.

>>720015402
we get it you played hollowknight dlc end game hard mode for 7 years and you are so good at the niche series anon
how did the transition go?

>>720019645
i did. theres even more bullshit after with buzzsaws everywhere takin 2 masks and enemies with multi hitting moves where invuln frames dont matter

>>720012707 (OP)
Yes, but it gets better after act 1. I wish someone had told me that. I almost dropped it after judge run / sinners path / mist / beast addslop boss. Saved the absolute worst for last.

>>720019874
git gud.
the game opens wide up right after beating the dancers, you can get a lot of tools and upgrades from exploring and doing side quests, game becomes pretty easy when you get 7hp

>>720014254
You play this on your keyboard?

I really don't like how so many enemies are dealing double damage two hours into the game

>>720019694
Why not just bind something to LS and RS?

Any solution to this hallway puzzle?
I get landing on them does 1 bar
walking on them does 2 bars
and running on them does 4 bars
is it some schizo code to put in or come back with the right ability?

>>720016747
i started playing with steam deck first but after i got constantly shit on by the game i switched to keyboard. best decision i made in my entire life. just gotta find the correct key bindings for you because the default one is shit

>>720020045
>give criticism
>give a flaw
>LE GET GUD
>it gets better x amount hours in
shut the fuck up. i wanted a metroidvania game not this dogshit prepare to die trash

>>720015213
Im sorry pissed im playing this on consol. This or 2x hit is just what I need.
Just beat phantom, those 3 act bosses are the worst as you master and get bored of the first 2 stages just to bang your head against the third.

>>720020134
literally just sprint from the far left to the far right

>>720016747
how does anyone play a 2d action platformer with anything BUT a controller?

>>720016908
This scares me. Just turned 40, I think you are right. The game is blatantly harder than HK though.

>>720013413
>he didn't beat the Last Judge before the patch

>>720020256
there are guys 50+ livestreamung platformer speedruns on youtube

No excuse. Half the people I played battlefield with have kids of their own

>>720020223
>all my previous attempts of doing what you said had the first few pedestals light up to 2/3 bars
>try it with the intention of knowing all can be 4 barred
>solves the puzzle
fucking gay

>>720013895
a lot of the mobs in latter act 2 can fuck off

>>720020353
I doubt they are actually 50 but thats cool. The inspiration I need. If they can speedrun I should be able to crawl.

>>720016747
>>720020048
yeah, what about it

>>720020392
>and its an actual useful tool too
why

>>720020392
Wait till you fight the boss. Though afterwards like a koan I got the game and whooped 3 other bosses after.

>>720020468
I could not imagine. Did you beat Sekiro on a keyboard?

>>720020196
>consol
yeah...

Nine Sols was 3x harder than this

>>720012707 (OP)
GIT GU

Where the fuck am I supposed to go? I keep trying to do The Mist but there's no fucking way they expect me to navigate this shit when the ghosts instantly kill me.

>>720012707 (OP)
Gitgud

They should patch it to make it even harder. I still don't get why you fags say it's too hard; this place has gone too fucking soft. Also, never played Hollow Knight.

>>720012707 (OP)
It's a bit unpredictable really
Several bosses are only made difficult because of random fuckoff minions (Savage Beast Fly is the obvious one but there are others)
Second Lace fight was really good but I might just be saying that because I got her pattern down so well it because a sort of endurance dance and I entered flow state
The clockwork dancers were absolute kino, fourth chorus was absolute kino
Widow was fucking bullshit but after a night's sleep I cleared it first try
Final Judge was kind of obnoxious but it wasn't impossible
It's a really mixed bag, honestly

Fucking dropped

>>720020582
i play everything with a keyboard, every soulslike, hk is way easier on keyboard as well

>>720016908
I'm 35 and an alcoholic and my reflexes are shit now but I'm still getting through the game fairly well, had a couple roadblocks but it's really not that bad. Most of my annoyance is coming from how scarce rosaries are

>>720015212
It's bullshit "hard" not decent hard.

Uhh guys? I just got the alternate ending, was.. was that it? The fight isn't different, just the ending?
Was that really it?

>>720020825
so she does have a pussy

>>720020894
>Check save file
WAIT

WHAT!?

HOLY SHIT

>>720015551
>DLC

I hope it's more along the lines of secret unlockable characters like bringing back the knight or maybe some new type of bug

>>720020886
Literally, not figuratively, LITERALLY get good

>>720020959
Game's bullshit, anon.

>>720020948
Hollow Knight:
Silksong:
Return to Hallownest

>>720020912
That's actually what makes her unique among the Pale King's children.
She's the only one with a defined voice, mind, and gender, being the child of Herrah the Beast, rather than the White Lady who birthed the other vessels like the Ghost and Hollow Knight.

>>720020825
She's literally the daughter of a god with near eternal life.
For all we know, Silksong could take place countless years after the first game.
Maybe she even did try finding a husband at some point, but the pain of immortality drove her to close herself off.

>Keep hearing people bitch about Widow
>Who's that?
>Look it up
>Oh the kooky harmonica person I enjoyed fighting and beat 3rd try
I liked that fight. But the game is starting to become a drag with all the wandering around looking for shit to do. I got a wanderer crest and the ability to sing songs to spider doors but I can't find any doors to sing songs to.

>>720020825
Immortal bug wife that can blow your mind and penis, even with her modest size.

>>720020825
I wonder if Hornet ate any of her mates. She is half-spider after all.

Just beat Moorwing. So far it’s not THAT hard, it’s fairly difficult but I mean, what did you expect? Harder than most of Hollow Knight but still not ridiculous or anything. The Beastfly was the hardest part and definitely felt like a spike but when I won after several tries, I beat it hitless. Of course I expect the game to get harder after this, which is good. It’s fun so far, it’s just a 6/10 on the difficulty scale.

What's the Needolin used for?

It was used once when I first got it, but then I've never found another place that reacts to it.

The fact that it uses Silk tells me that it has to have some sort of combat application.
It uses the same button as the Dream Nail, so it probably has some major story function, like how the dream nail activates dream fights, and dream plants.

>>720013708
>skull tyrant's health has been doubled

The rigged bench and the Last Judge's explosion feel like they were created with the sole purpose of baiting reactions out of streamers.

>>720021262
In a certain situation it just keep playing the game anon

My new favorite image. Game is amazing

YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENS ONCE YOU 100% THE QUESTS IN THIS GAME AND BEAT THE FINAL BOSS

IM LOSING MY SHIT

>>720012707 (OP)
I'm just glad to see fomo fags jumping on whatever was popular on twitch suffering.

>>720020983
>"Though I knew your purpose was fulfilled, I had always held out hope that you could somehow break free from destiny to live a life that you could make your own"
>"But not like this. I am so sorry friend. It's good to see you again, Little Ghost"
And then we have to fight the Knight, twisted and grown from the pieces of his broken mask.

>accidentaly bump into the stunned beastfly
>take 2 whole damage
NIGGA WHAT

>>720020582
>>720020235
its the fact that you can have buttons assigned to each of your keyboard. its more precise to have four fingers assigned to each of the directions for movement instead of just a finger on a joystick. the same with having a finger for each of the action buttons instead of one finger for ABXY

>>720021359
What I mean is what should I be looking out for?

The Dream Nail had these obvious plants to look out for, and corpses/dreamers with clear particles flowing off of them.
You could also use it on enemies to gain Soul quicker, or on regular NPCs to hear their inner thoughts.

Is there anything like that I should be using the Needolin for, or do I just wait for it to say "Hold X" for that button to be useful?

is this the main thread?

is there a secret ending if you leave these lands later when able to?

>>720019820
Mad cuz bad.

bells
bells
bells
bells

they should call this bellsong

LIE LIE LIE LIE

>>720012707 (OP)
I think the game actually has good bosses and fun combat unlike the original

Where the fuck is map lady in bilewater?

>>720021580
>how not to talk to short people

>>720021410
Holy fucking shit that's incredible

>>720021512
Weaver Doors

So I just got the upgrade for the Hunter crest, are there upgrades for the other crests or is this just meant to bring Hunter up to snuff alongside the rest?

so, where's the balance patch?

hate how hardslop games cannot be ever criticized

>>720021803
>uses the word slop
>wonders why nobody will take him seriously

Man is it just me or does the citadel fucking drag

>>720021803
calling the game hardslop instead of making a coherent sentence isn't criticism.

>no idea where to go
>find the mist, get to exhaust organ
>kill phantom
>friend tells me I was supposed to go to blasted steps which is by shellwood
I am so fucking retarded goddamn

>>720021091
TTTToTTTT

>>720021803
Maybe because whiny faggots like you just need to except the game is not for you. People who like challenging games rarely get what they want nowadays, so people who piss and shit their pants like you are especially obnoxious

>the mist changes layout
Holy kino

>>720021909
accept, dammit

Any invincibility exploits discovered yet? That was the only way I could beat the first game

Yo guys is there a conclusion to daddy grub eating all the grubs from the first game?

do i need double jump to get this or is there some trick
surely the single lone fly is there for a reason

What the...

I'm so excited for all of you to lose your shit once the pin drops
I've not been so fucking floored by a twist in years and years

I was struggling with Widow's second phase and resorted to poison tools, did I beat her or was I cheating? It bothers me a little, because when you apply poison to your knives etc the damage procs like 3 times which seems OP as hell.

I unlocked the tinkerer in the underworks and have the ability but I'm stuck, can't go back to whiteward
is left really the only path? it's so fucking far away

>>720021909
>>720021803
Hollow Knight fans are such fucking fags. What happened to all of their hardcore gamer posturing?

>>720021903
Unless you want to be hard-core you did it right.

>>720021871
>>720021836
>>720021909
case in point, instant deflection with the "gitgud" nonse

took 2 tries, just spammed knifes and boomerang with poison and he died

Damn this guy actually showed up randomly just to talk about nothing

>>720022041
double jump doesn't exist until the very very late endgame, so either wait to get that or pray to God you get the jump tech right

>>720022163
chatgpt post

>>720022159
Blasted Steps comes well before you ever do anything in Exhaust Organ.

>>720021512
butterflies

>>720022163
You offered nothing to talk about, you fucking idiot. If you want a conversation, try having one

how do i do this, do i just kill mobs with tools and it drops randomly?

>>720020825
damn used good

>>720013413
>there's a timelimit to beat the game before you're forced into easy mode
Hate this shit

>>720022163
I feel like "gitgud" only really applies to fucking dogshit games like Cuphead that have literally nothing else going for them

So the beast crest is just shit?

>>720022096
Her and Phantom are the worst fights. Anything not to do that boring first stage again.

>>720022173
This guy was such a fucking waste of a key

>>720022212
Guarantee drop, no random to it

The Longpin from early on can do Skewered. Grenade and something else can do Seared. Sawblade or Beast Claws can do Shredded

>>720022236
Yes

>>720022195
Not for me and not for buddy.

>>720021410
based

>>720022249
None of the things you get from using a key are worthwhile. The fire tool and the crest you get suck ass, and the Green Prince is a useless retard.

Okay is reaper crest ez mode? Should I try something else?

>>720022297
Wanderer is also ez mode.

>>720021410
could have dodged left and used iframes to get out and you were close to a heal

Nobody is going to get this. Forget it.
They'll have to tone down the difficulty.

>>720022339
nigga do you ever shut up

>>720022358
It's true though.

>>720022268
ok, thanks

>>720022339
You can quit out to avoid dying. It's how I got that achievement in HK.

>three phases
>starts steaming after death
>trust my gut and run away
>he explodes
YOU CAN'T FOOL ME FOR THE 4TH TIME YOU CBT ENTHUSIASTS

>>720012707 (OP)
I wish they took the time to add visible damage to the bosses as their life goes down. In binding of isaac every one of the gazillion bosses has an HP bar except for 2 bosses, so for those 2 bosses only they added visible damage over time so you can tell how you are actually doing.

>>720022271
I’m hoping the other crests offer something more than this.
>standard attack has less range
>up attack is horrible with a weird angle and also less range
>dash attack JUMPS
>pogo sucks
>fury mode sucks it’s just like 5 seconds where you can hopefully tank and trade I guess?
Don’t know man it just seems like it’s annoying with no satisfaction to be had. Do I ever need to have certain crests equipped to open stuff or something?

Probably, I am playing Rondo of blood and I fucking suck, first 2D castlevania I play...anyway there's an easy mode in the form of maria, she actually has less health but she can move faster by sliding, she can double jump and her attacks have huge hitboxes, that game is 30 years old so silksong should have known better to be honestic

>>720022163
I didn't say "git gud" you fucking faggot. I said the game is not for you, and people hardly make hard games nowadays so your whiny ass is especially retarded. Let people with different tastes from you get their fucking bone every now and then.

>>720022173
I was really expecting him to be a cool npc, I'd saved my key for hours before letting him out
and then he's just sad about a boss I kill hours later
what a waste

>>720022339
some autist will get it in the next 2 months

>>720022447
>I wish they took the time to add visible damage to the bosses as their life goes down
They roar every 25% hp, pay attention bro

>the average Silksong boss has 2-4 heavily telegraphed moves
>this is too much for /v/ to handle
I guess at this point it's pretty much tradition for at least half of /v/ to cry about the difficulty when a new game releases, no matter how easy it really is.

>>720022293
The fire place key at least gave you a new area that has new enemies and a spool fragment

>>720012707 (OP)
Thats why I dont play it or HK.
And why it's not a metroidvania but a fake souls like that fell into the "le hard" meme when souls isn't hard

Waiting for the new bloodstained a real 'vania adventure

crazy how much better she looks as a human

>hornet makes feral noises when using the beast crest
that's hot

>songclave supplies
>go from bellhart to songclave, on foot, and don’t take more than 5 damage
>for 160 rosaries
The fuck am I missing here? There’s no way that’s the only reward, right? Am I allowed to use the citadel elevators at least?

>>720014108
If it took you more than 2 tries for any boss in Elden Ring (as it didn't for me but I suck at HK) then I don't see how you can play these slops

Do you guys use the d-pad or joystick for movement? I mostly use the d-pad on the switch pro controller but it starts to hurt after a while and I'm not accurate enough with the joystick especially for bouncing puzzles.
Are there any good decently priced controllers on the market? I don't enjoy playing these types of games on the keyboard so I'd either have to bum a 360 controller from a friend or ps4 from my dad.

>the secret sections where you do platforming for a flea
actual mario odessy moon tier
what a fucking joke holy shit
I've run into at least 4 of these now and they PISS ME OFF

>>720022041
Yes and you are in the area that gives double jump

>>720012707 (OP)
>it's own good
its

If you're using a keyboard to play, you didn't beat the game.

>>720022686
I've been using my dualsense and yeah, the dpad is rought on my thumb. I play mostly MKB though so in general my hand is getting kind of sore using a controller this much. Oldfuck problems.
I have a Victrix controller I could try out to see if the dpad is nicer, but I like the shape of playstation controllers and the victrix body is xbox shaped. Also been considering just playing on keyboard but I don't think it will go well.

>>720022641
>The fuck am I missing here? There’s no way that’s the only reward, right?
LMAO
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>720022582
>Couldn't just do a full sized mask
>HAS to show off her face in some way

I am tired of whores.

>>720022795
What am I looking at here

>>720022686
I play on PS5 and I use the joystick. I remember the switch pro controller feeling a bit worse but it should be fine for platforming, just switch to Reaper or Wanderer for pogo jumping to make it 10 times easier.

last judge?
easy man aint quitting there
citadel bullshit
nah
MOUNTAIN OF CANCER
im out
fuck this game

>>720022814
here's your reward bro enjoy
yes that text is the reward
are you mad?
are you seething?

>>720022813
pretty sure it's based on a drawing of a humanized hornet with the same wig and everything

>>720022686
People will laugh, but I play joy cons with grip. I guess I'm a weirdo, but I find I have far more control with dedicated dpad buttons over most modern regular dpads.

>>720022686
I don't use a d-pad unless I'm playing my SNES.
Is it harder?
Sure.
Do I care?
Sure.
Am I stupid?
I'm too stupid to know if I'm stupid.

Joystick 4 Lyfe

>Silksong has hidden self-serving anti-deleuzian loops
Yikes! Mork is not gonna like this!

heres your playtesters, dev included.

How do we feel about the animeslop tier fanservice scenes?
>Hornet undressing when the seamstress upgrades her dress
>old flea pervert creeping on her while she's bathing
Was this really necessary?

>>720016747
keyboard is fantastic for hollow knight
i beat p5 all bindings on it

>>720022990
Yes. Next question.

>>720022990
>Was this really necessary?
Yes.

>get nail upgrade
>it does nothing
>get health upgrade
>it does nothing
end of act 1 btw

How do I get the dice charm?

>>720022686
Switch Pro has a pretty low stick resolution hence the inaccuracies.

>Are there any good decently priced controllers on the market?
8bitdo 2C has METAL hall effect sticks and very low latency over the dongle for only $25, one of the best controllers on the market right now

>>720023096
Bankrupt the pilgrim in Blasted Steps with his dice game.

>>720021467
This game would be better without contact damage. I keep thinking that every time i barely bounce off an enemy and Hornet's toe grazes then, killing me instantly.

How do I start the witch crest quest

>>720012707 (OP)
She filtered millions...

>>720023180
yeah would have helped if they had more than 8 playtesters over 7 years to do something about that

Phantom was a cool boss.

>>720023139
Is it any decent for stick games like Monster Hunter or more d-pad focused? The pro controller I've got has some minor stick drift so would be nice if I could get two birds in one stone here.

>100% everything
>Weird ending
>Nothing happens
>Disappointed
>Credits Roll
>"Thank you for playing, we hope to see you on the next road."
>More disappointment
HUGE SPOILERS
>Savefile pitch black
>Select
>ACT 3


HOLY FUCK
I GOT CHILLS

For anyone whose had the skull tyrant (second) encounter in the settlement, did you build and destroy the bridge prior to that?

I want to know if it's triggered by "giving the enemy a way in" or it happens to everyone.

>>720023239
I use a ps5 controller and it works really well

Yep, it's gaming time

>>720023324
based, use infinite geo and use no double damage mod, fun time

>>720013413
All they have to do is make most tools (esp early game ones) not garbage and fix the crests since most are meh

I get to the top and there's no heat sources
did I miss it? I freeze to death before I can finish the platforming gauntlet
do I just need to maintain full health on the way up

>>720023239
8bitdo 2c has the best sticks on the market right now, the d-pad is okay, nothing special, watch some YT reviews I guess if you're picky

>>720023141
I got it. My timing had been off.

>>720012707 (OP)
The path to the Judge is way more fucking annoying than losing to the fight.

>>720021475
>instead of just a finger on a joystick
You play 2D games with a d-pad, retard, not a stick.
That's probably why you have this misconception that keyboard is better.

>Explored the entire area of greymoor
>STILL can't find moorwing
WHERE THE FUCK IS HE

>>720023324
I envy people who can enjoy games with cheats, I always feel like "what is even the point of playing any more if I can just oneshot everything etc".

>>720023485
left side, if you didnt find him, you probably skipped him by accident by completing a quest.

>>720023281
I destroyed it. Saw Nuu at the old tyrant's corpse beforehand so could be that too. He's a sussy little character.

>>720023485
Where the flea stamp is

>>720023485
down from the leftmost screen, or through the sewers and to the left. or yeah you did flea quest I rode with them

>>720022861
What? You get a silk heart for the unraveled reward, it isn't just lore.

>>720012707 (OP)
just got to splinter sister. was really enjoying everything up to this point but I might have to drop it now. what an insanely bullshit fight. the minions she spawns are 1000x more annoying and dangerous then the actual boss. Im fucking tilted.

Why are the fleas Russian?
>accents
>ESL grammar typical of slavs
>literally Russian words like mushka or vosh

>pay 25 roseries to get told to get back to work
Repeat after me, Pale Hitler did nothing wrong.

>>720023519
>>720023571
>>720023578
>Combed through the area again for the last area trying to find the boss
>I fucking SKIPPED a whole ass boss
why the fuck would they do this.

>>720023617
because epic subversion of what are clearly gypsies.

>>720023698
last hour*
kill me bros

>>720023468
that changes nothing about what he said you stupid double nigger, you still have a single thumb for all 4 directions while a keyboard you have a finger for each

>>720023698
He's pretty easy anyways. Anons just suck at the game
https://files.catbox.moe/offsb7.mp4

>>720023649
>Pale King, should we make over half the benches of our kingdom cost Geo to sit on?
>What? No. Stop being fucking stupid. Just make it a few.

NGL, this game feels harder than Cuphead and possibly harder than Sekiro. I wish the bosses didn't 3 shot you and healing didn't require a full silk bar.

he is laughing at you

>>720023834
>old jewish man is already in act 2
am i really that bad at bideo gays

>>720016747
how the fuck does anyone play this with the default controls.
diagonal slash should be on LB
map should be on LS or just have it be part of the pause menu only.
up+RB to use a secondary special is fucking stupid unless that special aims upward.
you could use LT as a modifier that changes the function of other buttons giving you all the extra inputs for specials you would need.

Also why the fuck does this game have a taunt on RS that costs 1 silk and is completely useless?

>>720023815
>possibly harder than Sekiro.
Anon, that doesn't take much. Sekiro isn't a hard game

>>720023932
How many hours do you have?
I'm also in act 2 at 20 hours and I spent a lot of time exploring and running in circles

>>720024001
Retarded mentality. If Sekiro isn't hard, then nothing is.

Does Act 3 actually exist or am I being trolled?
I swear to god I've done everything at this point aside from two fleas and all I can do is get an unsatisfying fuckup ending.
If I have to take the Seeker's Soul somewhere, where in god's name do I take it to? I've done like ten laps around the whole map at this point.

>>720012707 (OP)
Its not hard just tedious. Once you get good it starts to get somewhat trivial which will then start to piss you off more because you start to notice the artificial inconveniences they added to make it seem hard

>>720024034
14 hours, just beat Widow and upgraded my needle, gonna goof around and do all the quest board quests, then I can go to that windy area or sinner's road, so I'm assuming there's still a lot eft to do in act 1

>>720024063
if you're good then why are you struggling?? just beat the game???

Can somebody give me a hint as what the deal is with the silver bells quest? I don't see any down-access into tunnels below Bellhart that I assume connect to that bell-filled room in the Marrow below Bellhart that I haven't been able to open up from inside the room, so I figure there's a one-way wall within the tunnels. The upper tunnels don't have any silver bells so I'm at a loss.

I never heard of this game until about a week ago. This has to be the most artificial gaming "hype" in history. Luckily no one is going to be talking about it by next week

>>720014434
Shakra is a little bitch they aren't hard and throwing knives and thrusting guy are fun to fight but the small birds suck they always stay just out of your reach so you have to jump and but due to how jumping works in this game you either make a small useless jump and slitghtly under hit or a large one and lose a mask due to body hit. They also stay just out of range making it annoying and drawn out since you have to wait for them to attack or get lower to deal with them

>>720024001
>>720024042
Sekiro's difficulty is misleading, the only people who think its hard don't realize you can just spam parry and beat 90% of bosses

I don't know if too difficult is the right term. Just poorly done. Moorwing for example is a large boss that moves a lot, deals 2 masks of damage and the period you are immune to damage is very short.
You can contact the boss dealing 2 damage and while you are falling the boss can follow you down and deal another 2 damage. Going from 4 health to zero after just touching the boss seems really fucking stupid.

Am I missing a shortcut to last judge or do you really have to get past all that shit every time?

>>720023486
It's easy anon, videogames are already a waste of time. I simply don't let them become a _frustrating_ waste of time :)

>>720024250
Welcome to purgatory, enjoy your stay
I hesitate to call it hell, because Bilewater is worse

>>720024170
I take it you haven't spent a lot of time in the Bellhart fast travel room

>>720024182
Don't be dumb anon, it's literally a sequel to an much beloved game that's been in dev hell for seven years m8

>>720021909
>People who like challenging games rarely get what they want nowadays
????
u blind?

>>720023815
I beat sekiro a couple months ago and I feel like this game is worse. sekiro bosses are easily cheesable with hit and run strats.

>>720024291
Speaking of bilewater, do you need double jump to get to shakra there? The only place I saw her chakrams was a place I couldn't reach.

>>720024001
the reason it's "harder" than sekiro is because it's no where near as well designed.
-Sekiro enemies have smooth, intuitive attack animations
-SS enemies have jank ass jerky animations sometime without any defined telegraphing like the red bug that will RNG jump at you even if you're too close for there to be room to walk under him.
-Often the mix of enemies and platforming creates frame traps that the devs did not bother to consider
-Wolf has a lot more combat abilities than hornet and a powerful guard
-hornet is incredibly weak and has a more crappy toolkit

I can't understate how much worse SS jank 10 FPS animations are to combat vs smooth intuitive 60FPS animations in sekiro

>>720021942
literally ripping off Ori and the Blind Forest elMAO

>>720024182
Not really. There used to be a lot of Hollow Knight threads several years ago. There's been practically weekly, if not daily, threads for Silksong for fucking years, dude. You must've quite literally found out about 4chan last week if you haven't heard of Hollow Knight or Silksong since last week.

>>720024418
>literally ripping off Ori
Why didn't they rip off the combat from the second one?

>>720024170
they're random and respawn when you rest at a bench. just go through the area, rest, repeat. yeah, it's retarded. i assume you're talking about the two side paths, pretty sure there's no hidden wall around to hit for them
>>720021942
the puzzle maze area has been a staple since literally forever

>>720024042
How is it a retarded mentality? It wasn't hard. The only difficult bosses were both version of Isshin. Outside of that, it wasn't all that difficult.

>>720024476
DMC combat requires more animation and programing skill than they have.

someone please help me with a strat for splinter sister. these fucking ads are raping me to death every time

so far best boss fight imo

>"hahaha it cant get worse"
>it gets worse...

>>720024170
>he doesn't know
L M A O

>>720024540
line them up for a silk spear attack and they die instantly
her attacks are very easy to dodge if you clear out the adds right away, just don't miss

notice how the only difficult bosses are the ones with fly ads? im nooticing.

>>720024540
silkstorm + spike traps + jump attacking as fast as physically possible. Treat her like a DPS race. Abuse reapers bind passive and get tons of silk and heal whenever you get hit.

>courier's rasher
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
A MILLION ROSARY BEADS IN MY ASS

>>720024540
The adds die to one silkstorm. I just tried to always bunch them up and kill them with that.

https://files.catbox.moe/lldgkk.MP4

I'm on my first playthrough and thought this was neat

hmmm it feels like alot of these challenges rooms even in act 1 to act 2 just feel like something meant for actual optional challenges with good permanent rewards and not some shit like a useless yellow equippable.

the severe lack of mask shards as a reward is quite very un metroidvania like. the fuck? im just finding these in the most unrewarding piss easy areas in comparison

theres just no rhyme to any of it. A platform puzzle either has 20 rosario stones or sometimes a bone shard pouch. sometimes it is a shard, sometimes its just fuckin lore

just finished the final boss of act 3, hardest fight in the game and its NOT CLOSE. act 3 as a whole was pure kino

>>720024783
>>720024709
>>720024663
thanks anon didnt think to use my silk abilities

>>720023834
damn he must have got the correct version

>>720024240
>>720024393
sekiro and silksong have that feeling of tedium where i am glad something is over when i beat it, and not the feeling of accomplishment.

>>720024548
WHAT THE FUCK I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EDIT

>>720024052
do all of the board quests in the game and move the flea caravan to the pale lake. you will get a quest in the bell town after that which allows you to do something different in the boss fight to start act 3[/spoiler[

7 years.

8 playtesters over 7 years.

what the fuck were they playtesting? why did they think the final product here was good for the public masses?

I lost a bunch of the rosaries that are strung up. I just got the upgrade that lets you float but I have no money. I'm really thinking about restarting and just being better? i've missed a few benches because of no geo.

>>720024303
thanks

>>720012707 (OP)
It seems that this game was made with some autistic speedrunner troons who have played exclusively played HK for 8 years in mind as their baseline demographic. Apparently, it was important to impress those. It is given that anyone who isn't an autistic troon that played one game for 8 years won't be comfortable with it. Now if you were, it would have been concerning.

>>720024376
You can only do the lower half of Bilewater until the double jump

>>720025119
>I'm really thinking about restarting and just being better?
There's no need. There's an ant you can farm pretty fast and easy for 25 rosaries a pop

>>720025107
holy shit, all you've done is complain about the difficulty all thread. have you even touched the game at all?

>>720025119
Farming rosaries is piss easy anon, stop listening to retards on /v/ who insist they are somehow in low supply. If you're thinking of restarting and being better(?) you should either just keep playing or drop the game entirely.

>>720022330
literally how? its no different than the hunter crest aside from the pogo attack. it even has the worse dash attack which propels you backward instead

>>720024702
it's actually incredibly easy to realize what it is that makes the game so fucked up: you have no way to get through walls of hitboxes. a dodge like shade dash would solve every bullshit checkmate situation through the entire game, but instead you have absolutely zero invincible moves. add to that that you don't have vertical mobility to get over shit, or a way to correct positioning and dodge the second enemy after you've jumped and dodged the first, until late game

literally every problem is the game just smothering you in hitboxes without giving you the tool to deal with them

>>720024965
I'm excited. The beginning of act 3 has been so fucking good so far. I felt like the game was about to exhaust all its content then BAM. The equivalent to hollow knights void ascent was absolute kino.

>>720025206
where at?

>>720025216
i'm feeling the inflation first hand

>>720025258
buckle up anon, if you thought acts 1 and 2 were hard the bosses in act 3 are on another level

>>720025251
>muh i-frames
lol. learn to use your tools. this isn't dark souls.

>>720025251
>you don't have vertical mobility to get over shit
Bro has forgotten what the jump button is.

>>720025251
>he didn't unlock the parry

>>720025209
holy shit man do you want me to make some silksong memes about the shit lore?
want me to post r34 of the bug lady too?

hahah how about some videogame humor like haha look bug lady doing the bug thing xD

im totally the only anon pointing out the glaring issue!

>>720025345
>anything but talk about his game progress
so, you haven't touched the game. got it.

>>720025230
It's like reaper but not slow as shit. And also it crits. That pogo was stupid good in HK and it's still stupid good here.

>>720024702
>>720025251
mention an anon pointing out how much bigger a hitbox hornets is compared to knights.

then you mix in the flyin enemies and body hits doing almost 2 hits of damage, combine that with the lower invuln frames, shit stacks up fast

then you add on top of the low mask upgrades. the game is too punishing. they didn't playtest it well.

>>720025076
Afraid not

you're supposed to get the ability to sprint run at the same time as dash? does the game tell you this?

>>720025385
im in act 2 go fuck yourself retard

>>720025101
I feel like a imbecile
It turns out I missed something pretty fucking important in whiteward

>>720025294
oh kys you disingenuous faggot. it's no wonder i-frames are used as a design crutch in every other game now -- it gives you an out that's always available. silksong is what it looks like when you take that away without modifying encounter design -- you get into situations where you really can't get away from an attack without running into another.
>>720025295
have you fought the forum arena? it illustrates this extremely clearly. the fly over the lava, too, but to a lesser degree.
>>720025330
no, i haven't. where?

>>720012707 (OP)
https://www.nexusmods.com/games/hollowknightsilksong
To all the whiners you're welcome, now please shut the fuck up

>>720014497
Widow is a difficult fight, but it's also well telegraphed, fair and rewards paying attention. Beastfly is bullshit but thankfully it's at least optional (if you don't want to unlock one of the best movesets in the game)

>Widow last phase
>you can just hug the right wall and wait for her to come to you and just keep bouncing attacks off her to take her out
wew lad

Why does everyone keep saying the best crest moveset is bad? You do realize that the pogo has a 360 degree hitbox and you can just ram into things with it?

>>720025457
I'm pretty sure it explains it at the same time it tells you what button it is.

>>720025487
there's a secret area and boss to the left of the bilewater bell station

>>720025487
>--
ma'am kindly i ask to not wasting tokens for 4chan sentences i'm need them all ma'am please do not making me wait

>>720025487
>it's no wonder i-frames are used as a design crutch in every other game now
yea, im glad you're aware.

>>720025534
what are you saying here

>>720025514
Widow is actually an add for the true boss; screen shake.

>>720025524
damn, guess i wasnt paying attention. dont have the game open now, but you sprint by pressing what? keeping the right trigger pressed down?

>>720025487
>it illustrates this extremely clearly. the fly over the lava, too, but to a lesser degree.
Guess I'm in for an unhappy surprise then haha...

>>720025580
Yep, just hold right trigger.

>>720015402
>new Path of Pain? 45 minutes
What are people even referring to with this?
The mountain? Or the REAL one in the endgame?
Both are far too easy.

>>720025638
cheers

so when you reach the slab can you do the left mountain path immediately after getting your gear back and finding the fast travel station?

did i just pay 500 rosaries for a key to enter an area from the left that i could i have entered for free from the right? deep docks into far fields area.

>>720025586
oh yeah. tip for when you get there: equip the spell that does damage in a circle around you and nuke the adds the second they spawn. never jump when the fly is to your side.

>>720025772
no
all the areas behind keys are impossible to access without the key

>>720024965
How did you get the herald achievement?
I beat the quest (the task is marked as completed)... was there something else I needed to do or did I get fucked?

>>720025831
if you completed the quest, you get the achievement after credits roll

>>720025708
Yeah, and its worth it to do it. The reward is god tier.

Man, the moss mothers were crazy.
Maybe it's because I did it with no health or nail upgrade, but I just found that shit overwhelming as fuck. Thank Christ for mid air healing, that fight is basically one big pogo match.

Wonder how much easier it would have been with the nail upgrade, because those two have ridiculous levels of health without it.
But they're dead, I beat em, and it's always a good feeling.

>>720025871
That's on you for not exploring bellrest properly after beating widow.

>>720025862
based thanks. thought some special puffy clothes might have been needed for that spot. i found a thing that increases sprint speed so it might be worth going back there now

has a third pale oil been discovered yet? the weapon upgrade bug says that if we find any more bring it to him, but i only ever found 2

can you get to the far fields and get drifting cloak before doing lace?

>>720012707 (OP)
This game is proving to be the great filter for retards, I can't believe people actually find enemies with 2-5 attacks hard.

>>720022785
>>720022819
>>720022906
>>720022908
>>720023139
And here I am, trying to play with my keyboard.

>>720025985
It might be possible by going wormways - shadewood - bellrest - graymoor - far fields.

>>720014552
I like difficulty. If a game is easy why even play it? Seriously. Give me a reason. The story? Laughable.

Games are about learning and then mastering. Easy games offer literally nothing because you don't need to learn anything and there is nothing to master.

bugfuckers

i just started this game on switch 2
when does it get good

nigga i'm LOST

>>720026178
Act 4

>>720026195
wya

>>720026147
So it's fun because it's hard because that's unfun to people who don't like it hard so you can feel proud?
Why don't you just learn to play the violin...

Hornet is kind of a lolimancer / shotamancer
Lace is way younger than hornet, Nuu is an actual child. The knight and Sherma are little boys. (yes I know the vessels are genderless, whatever)
She's ourgirl

>>720026195
dude just open your map
you saved for a map, a quill and a compass, right?

>>720012707 (OP)
it really isn't that hard

there's nothing unfair, you might die a few times on each boss while you're see its attacks the first time, but you can learn everything pretty quickly and straightforwardly

I don't know what the fuck everyone is talking about frankly. Is it all people who are used to playing games where 90% of the time they're just watching cutscenes?

>>720026025
Yeah, it's crazy. Especially when you can do stuff like a dash attack into a pogo and then hit them in the back before you even touch the ground for 3 hits in a literal second. You can attack so god damn fast in this game I kill most bosses first try. I knew /v/ was bad at videogames but this is crazy.

What does he mean by this?

what do u need for these? diags just send me downwards

>>720026274
im pretty baffled by the difficulty complaints too. i dont think i ever died more than 1 times to any single boss

>single use paid benches
sasuga team cherry

>>720026274
I like difficult games but early game you can die against a boss in just three seconds if they land you 2 hits in a row and also hit you while you try to heal. From full health to dead in just a moment.
That's rough, man.

>>720026319
ten times***

I need help

How do you get the music from cog's core, I don't get how to solve the puzzle. Also, I still haven't found the map for Slab and I haven't found the Heretic Key

>you have to beat the game before Team Cherry nerfs half the shit in the game
guess I know what I'm doing sunday...

>>720026342
You are in wageslave hell.

This fuckin PERVERT!! Keep your peepers to yourself...

Contact damage and low hitstun make the combat feel like shit. I also hate collecting currencies, that's nugen Zoomer dogshit game design in a nutshell. I'm still pretty addicted to it for some reason and I'm glad it's somewhat challenging. I want to beat it before they nerf anything.

>>720026364
just line the music notes up top to bottom. make them align vertically.
you get the slab map after you get the apostate key from the tippity top of bilewater

Genuine question: how tough is Silksong compared to the Dark Soulses? Never played the latter.

>>720021410
Intentionally take damage on the small fly, use iframes to wall July and get out of there, you're just not creative enough.

>>720026403
Did they get the pale king to build this place?

>>720026450
It's about the same, IMO. Both games are actually really easy, but since you die in 3 hits it takes a while to get good at it at first.

>>720026450
dark souls is easier
>no platforming
>almost can never die exploring
>bosses can be 1-2 tried while silksong has mechanics that you need to see 1-2 times to get used to so will usually take 3+ tries

>>720026450
Too different to properly compare. I'd still say that silksong is harder since it doesn't have ways to trivialize the game, like most 3d soulslikes do.

>>720026450
about the same, you might die a few times but you should be able to breeze through

>>720012707 (OP)
Because it started as a DLC of the first game that should be tackled by the end of the game, that's why it feels like the first few zones are already harder than anything in the previous game.
They forgot to tune the starter zones to the fact that it's not a DLC anymore, but since they've been developing this game 7 years they have replayed it so much they probably thought it was well balanced and easy for most people lol.

i had to troon out for 3 minutes to turn into a no-hit speedrunner

OH NONONONO

>>720026627
>since it doesn't have ways to trivialize the game, like most 3d soulslikes do.
I've been spamming venom spike traps, and those can be pretty cheesy in the second phases of most bosses.

>>720026628
>>720026569
delusional. the souls games are mostly trivial, even longsword only with no spells or summons or items or anything (like i played them). ss is ten times more difficult, actually incomparable

where the hell is the prison sequence? did I miss it?

Bros how the fuck do I do the final jump at mount fay???
>>720026251
kek true

>>720025930
As soon as I got the wall climb I wanted to explore. I wound up stumbling into widow, then had to focus on her to get my rosaries back, and went back to the beginning to explore the areas I could now get to.

>>720026676
Name a 3d soulslike that doesn't have tools that are at least 3 times more effective than that.

This shit is too stressful. How are you supposed to know where to go without a wiki. Why did they even separate it into acts I'm here shivering with my wife's boyfriend and hoping every boss I fight is optional and not part of the main quest.

>>720012707 (OP)
So is the difficulty in the game fun, or is it just another instance of soulslop pattern memorization?

>>720026819
i thought it was pretty fun. never raged

>>720026716
they're both piss easy

beat the game and got what I assume is the default ending.

the game's difficulty is not overturned, people are just bad and unwilling to engage with a game's mechanics beyond the bare minimum.

have any big dick anons figured out some endgame secrets? I was pretty thorough this first playthrough, but am bound to have missed some things here and there.

>>720026674
>chinks koreans and japs
>40-71% range
>all rest
>89%+

>>720026863
there's still a whole nother act for you to do anon

>>720026868
apparently they botched the chinese translation.

>>720026819
There is some bullshit (savage beastfly). But it's mostly fun.

4chan X stopped working on chrome today

What do I do?

>>720013708
>they probably are going to tune it down
It is not possible to tune down the worst parts of this game.
I cannot complain about fights. Fights are actually pretty fair. Maybe some normal mobs have too much hp, but that's not a major issue, you can live with it.
But how will you tune down the ass cancer waste of time that is runback to basically every challenging enconuter? The last judge shit for example, how would you turn it down? It is not possible to alter some values, it is baked into level design. What to do, give them 6 more years to make less time wasting levels?

>>720026819
The latter. The patterns are pretty simple but you do zero damage so you're whacking a dummy for half an hour.

Why in the fuck did the put a fake out bench before the boss in bile water thats turbo fucking aids

>>720026932
use 4chan XT

roughly 96% of players didnt get to act 2 yet
holy LMAO

>>720026964
kek spoiler that shit

>>720026848
have you beat it yet?

>>720026450
Any souls game won't make you run through 3 zones under a timer and almost hitless to deliver a package for a weapon upgrade

>>720015402
how do you boast about being "good" and cry about being bad in the same post you drooling retard

>>720026997
No fuck you, genuinely the first actual bad design choice. I get wanting the game to be harder but the run back doesnt need to be THE ENTIRE FUCKING LEVEL

I COULDN'T SAVE HIM
>>720026994
I'm just about to head to Act 2 but I just remembered I got the Needolin technique and just unlocked Hunter

>>720027040
yeah i cant lie climbing back up past those big fucking flying cockroaches was aids

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
THE ENTIRE WORLD MAP IS FUCKED
IT'S FUCKING VOID EVERYWHERE

Silksong from the game Hollow Knight: Silksong

does the knight actually show up in this game or am i being trolled

>>720026994
yeah no shit nobody fucking says anything here so you assume that going to the big glowing citadel thing hidden behind a shitton of maps that's practically screaming act 2 is going to lock you out of quests.

>>720026886
holy shit
>>720027040
bilewater is the best zone at the game

>>720027079
yeah, in act 5

>The fucking Biggie & Smalls in Deep Docks.
Why is the boss design in this game like this? I can practically count one or two bosses that i genuinely enjoyed and the rest just feel like you're constantly fighting a war of attrition.

>>720027079
get the true ending and find out :^)

>>720012707 (OP)
Meanwhile, I'm playing on hard mode kek

>>720027127
>Biggie & Smalls
what?

>>720026994
last judge is not the only path to act 2

>>720026994
Did it this morning. Was a fun fight.

>>720027151
bas-
>Can equip tools anywhere
unbased

>>720027163
pardon? is there an alternate route to the citadel?

>>720027163
That one has even less people who've done it lol

>>720027074
ayo bruh thats fire

>>720027196
through the mist yes
you are trading cancer boss runbacks for a cancer level instead

What the fuck is this nigger doing here.

>>720027286
thats pretty fucking epic. i didnt even know you could get to that side of the map before hitting citadel

>>720026994
It's 85.4% now.

>>720027156
These two. Basically it's a lava wreathed arena (can't use walls) where the first phase is Gron spamming ads and throwing the staff and doing a three hit combo with it, then after a while of that Signis joins in and now you're contending with two projectile throwing cunts with the other's projectile having an explosive payload timer that punishes you for lingering too close in one spot. It's just exhausting. Luckily atleast the Gron is grounded so you can just make him step on legos 24/7 (Tacks)

>>720027314
It requires doing a pogo jump off an enemy's head to substitute a double jump, but from that point on it's perfectly viable

Do I miss anything by being taken to prison?
Does it skip bosses like taking the caravan skips Moorwing?

Holy fuck bilewater sucks ass what in gods name were they thinking

>>720027339
I basically stay away from them and spammed spears until the one on the ground was dead. Then the other one alone was a joke.

now that i beat the true ending should i got for a steel soul run bros

no fucking way.

>>720012707 (OP)
WHY IS THE RUN BACK TO EVERY TOUGH ENCOUNTER THE ENTIRE ZONE
Seriously, this game has too many benches in nothing locations and never one where it needs to be.

>>720027514
wat happens if you turn in

>>720027429
It's not really a problem if you have ample pouch upgrades and shards available, it becomes a problem when you're learning the fight, using ample tools and the game chugs another 300+ shards for your tools in the span of 1-3 tries and learning the fight.

>>720026313
you need a skill that you unlock at the weaver in underworks its on the right side of the area

>>720027557
you get a beast shard another quest that goes for 200 if my experience with this cbt taught me anything.

>Me playing the game
>Getting frustrated and seething, pure suffering
>Stop playing the game for a few minutes
>Suddenly get the urge to keep playing
Bros, I think I'm addicted to suffering.

The runback to Last Judge is starting to filter me.
I've been handling the game pretty well up to this point, but this is starting to get to me.
I've been trying for about an hour now.
The fight itself is pretty fun, but having to go through the path of pain's one-armed meth baby each and every try makes it a lot less fun.

How to fix the game:
- put iframes on dash
- remove all currencies
- move everything from vendors to behind bosses or in secret areas
- compass as default

>>720012707 (OP)
Nigger its a 15 hour game what do you mean hard

what does it mean when styx tells you to come back later? what do you actually need to do before you can come back to him?

>>720027745
he just creates those little worms that you can break to get your souls back when you die without having to break the cocoon

>>720027745
Timer based Silkeater spawn. It can add up over time if you move through the zone often in Act 2. Initially the Silkeaters are rare, but they're more common in the mid-to-late game, so if you get stuck on bosses or your cocoon drops somewhere shitty, you can easily use a Silkeater to move on.

>can charge heavy attack without using a light attack if you go into menu and hold the attack button
extremely autistic but it could have its uses kek

I'm pretty sure most of the translations in certain languages were AI generated, the localization of this game is rock bottom.

>>720025324
thx anon

>>720027972
not giving journos copies of the game really bit them in their ass

>>720027720
true ending took me 33 hours

>>720027705
The runback actually gets fun when you're fast enough I swear.
The trick is if you're sprinting you can get past stalactite bugs just before they get a hitbox.

>>720027127
Splinter Sister and Four Chords were the best ones, so far. Still in Act I, just entered Sinner's Road.

FUCKING ROACHES

so how do you time for the 5 hour speedrun achievement?
1.5-2 hours for act 1?
is act 2 doable in 3 hours?

>>720028086
aww, it's smiling :)

uhh bros, my additional silk stuff is gone, the icon is showing a cracked, broken off end... wtf is going on, how do I fix this?

>>720027720
nobody tell this poor fool about act 3

>>720028135
At least you can activate that one eventually
they do it again on an infinitly more annoying zone so the runback to the boss is legit 5 fucking minutes

I just want my double jump man why do I have to on another adventure to bumfuck somewhere. Rape shouldn't feel this bad.

>>720028086
Sinner's is practically an Act 2 zone you can enter early, as enemies have trillion HP with Act 1 upgrades. There are some really amazing upgrades you can get from there for certain bosses. Namely tacks, which are a godsend on grounded bosses.

The only way to get ta seared organ is with that fire tool locked behind a door isnt it... fucking dammit team cherry, where is a simple key in act 2

>>720012707 (OP)
>game difficulty threads
The absolute most boring dogshit threads imaginable, yet they always hit bump limit

>>720028256
merchant at first shrine sells one i think

I don't think they intended for people to enter the citadel through the mist. The grand gate is both open and close

>>720028295
now if only you could read

>go to unlock the bench in Sinner's Rise
>it's stuck
HAHAHAHAHA

>>720024549
That not properly connecting is really pissing me off.

>>720028392
The fact that you actually get something for your efforts supports your theory.

>>720027715
>make it dark souls 3
no thank you, we're good on that.

>>720027151
>Set Game Speed 1.2
DMC turbo?

Does this game have platform cancer like White Palace that has item for alternate endings?

>>720028561
You know it :)

I dont get the broodfeast quest. It says to kill enemies with tools to drop organs and im doing that but nothing happens

>>720028571
Hopefully, yes.

>>720012707 (OP)
Just wait for a mod to fix it or use cheat engine

>>720027705
You only have to get past two drill faces and pogo on like 5 bells. I used the wanderer's crest and just dunked the drillfags into the centipedes as soon as they spawned.

Minion builds are back on the table...

>>720028295
Reminds me of a Dark Souls comic I can't seem to find anymore where one character Capra Demon is the hardest boss then another character says that's easy, what's really hard is this other boss. Then you see this entire line of people waiting in line to say how another boss is the real challenge.

The hard part are fine. The things that need fixing are

> No rosary benches ever. That's stupid .
> Hard boss MUST require a close bench
> Way lower cost of fast travel
> Widow contact damage is 1, normal attack 2. That should apply to all bosses.
>

That's it.

There is something wrong about this game's general balance.
The base damage of the needle is very low, was this only playtested by "pro" Hollow Knight tryhards?
Normal enemies taking 5 to 8 hits to kill, some even take more, is fucking absurd.

>>720028882
TC didn't give a fuck about feedback for 8 years, they're not going to change or fix anything.

>>720028892
upgrade your needle anon

>>720021410
Fuck this nigger add spawning boss so goddamn much

>>720028952
Wheere?

>>720028989
bell town is the first upgrade, then you can get 2 more in act 2

>>720021410
>fire defense charm instead of silk one
>trap on flying enemy instead of throwing weapon
it is a bit ironic because it precisely shows why so many people have problems with this game - they don't even choose tools for the job
Probably the same people who only used nail upgrading stones in HK 1

>>720028913

They nerfed several overly difficult bosses in the Pantheon (including the jellyfish enemy), and added more benches and fast travel points.

>beat the game without much issue
>everyone is complaining about hard it is on /v/, Reddit, etc.
I hope they don't reduce the difficulty. It's perfect atm.

>>720029018
That trap rules though

Favorite zone so far?

>>720029018
That boss is cancer even when you gear up specifically for it. And the trap isn't even a bad choice for that fight.

>>720028892
Even after upgrading the needle, enemies still take the same amount of hits to kill.

>>720029086
The Citadel environs as a whole. From Act 1 zones and many adjacent areas, likely Shellwood

Chinese review :

The protagonist is fragile, the monsters are damage sponges, the traps are relentless, the benches cost money, the prayer beads keep rolling, the stations are expensive, the shards are useless, the charms are insufficient, the coins are scarce, the doors cost 30 to open, the map traversal is long, the side quests are torturous, the corpse retrieval is endless, the bosses deal high damage, the small enemies are tenacious, anti-air options are lacking, invincibility is brief, two masks of health is dangerous, the builds are monotonous, the players are hostile to each other, the translation is trash, the font is ugly, the music is bland, and the difficulty is insane.

Do you like it when I give no hints but deduct 80 and only give 60?
Do you like my nuclear-powered prayer beads?
Do you like that you have to beat up the cart before riding it?
Do you like that after paying 30 to open a door, if you step outside for a moment and come back, it still charges another 30?

Too much malice. After playing for over ten hours, there’s absolutely no positive feedback. You’re either already tilted or on the way to tilting. Sometimes in the middle of playing, you start questioning life itself, wondering if things have been going too smoothly in reality and that’s why you came here to suffer.

You deserve a negative review. If I don’t give you one, who should I give it to? Killing monsters drops no money, I feel like a beggar. The road is full of masters: one strike gives me tetanus, two strikes send me to my ancestors. And it’s not even like I’m going to the Citadel—just some random enemy by the roadside already sends me to the afterlife. After barely dodging those masters, bam! A door slams shut and I’m forced straight into a dogfight. Finally managed to open the door and find a bench, and it costs 80. I check my pockets, and they’re emptier than my face.

Should I use my second simple key that I got in Sinner's Rise on the nigga trapped in a cage or the Wormway door?

>>720029086
The citadel. And Bilewater is the worst

>>720029086
Deep Docks. It had the coolest aesthetic, the best gimmicks, and a really fun boss.
t. just got to Act 2. hasn't had the chance to do much else.

>>720029086
bilewater

>>720029192
>one strike gives me tetanus, two strikes send me to my ancestors
kek

>>720029138
Nearly all adds in this fight fly, also boss does too, why would you take trap for it?

>>720029086
I only just got to act two, but probably greymoor. I actually liked the balloon pogo'ing and both the scissor dudes and the fencer birds are fun to fight. I didn't get to fight moorwing, though. So I don't know how that would affect my opinion.

>>720027972
In what language are you playing?

>>720028952
You missed the "the base" damage. They should have had it be slightly higher. Arguably a level higher. Level 0 being level 1, level 1 being level 2, etc.
They goofed with the game balance.

>>720029245
How do you kill the fuckers that jump from the ground and throw darts at you? I don't know their name cause I haven't killed one

>>720029342
Charge attack and throwing daggers

>>720029249
I've never had an issue getting it to hit flying enemies. And when you get a good hit, it hits a bunch of times.

>>720023062
>get nail upgrade
>it does nothing
it only does nothing for small mobs that are already 3 hits, check the big birds in greymoor, difference is really noticeable or it is partly focus from starting crest upgrade, no way to tell desu

>>720029342
be either above or directly below them, and get hits in while they're midair. pretty annoying to fight them overall tho

Am I supposed to have (I presume to be in the game) double jump to progress out of Sinner's Road? I did my usual cheeky thing of luring an enemy over to reach a walljump shaft and that lead to the other side of the locked door I expected would be on the other side, but there's no way to climb up through this room without something like a double jump.

>>720029471
>it only does nothing for small mobs that are already 3 hits
It shouldn't be like this.

Do I rescue my nigga or open the door in Wormways?

>>720029471
Focus is another tier of damage up, with that and the sharpen the hits required to kill enemies is halved. I got that barbed charm which I imagine will add another damage up, but having to take double damage isn't even worth considering because of how fucked up enemies are in this game. Taking an additional damage, maybe, but turning 2 masks of damage into 4 is a joke.

>>720029526
I don't have double jump and I traversed the entire thing

>>720029394
I'm maining wanderer crest so the charge attack kinda sucks ass.
>>720029484
especially considering they are usually in narrow tunnels

>>720029586
I just cut him loose and I hope he Lautrecs me, I'll be disappointed otherwise. Wormways is an important door to open, though. So far I've only laid my hands on two simple keys so it'll be a while until I can open that door in the docks I guess.

>>720029637
How do you get up this without a pogo then?

>>720029651
>>720029586
I found 3 keys so far
>starting shop
>slave pen mob drop
>town in citadel, act 2\
so I believe you will get key for everything anyway

>>720029651
The docks one is practically useless, as of right now anyways for me.
>>720029703
Can you show on the map exactly where that's at?

>>720029086
bilgewater

>>720029703
Can't. you need the double jump

>>720029086
music- citadel chorus
overall- underworks, really cool they made mobs there looks like workers, attacking with cleaning tools etc

>>720029775
Guess I'll go back to checking out the Blasted Steps then, it's the only other path of progress I can see. I wanted to make a point to check everywhere I could after getting the needolin and the walljump and I guess I've reached all I can.
>>720029751
It's this room, I guess it's marked on your map and mine despite neither of us being in the upper area.

>>720029949
Oh, yeah. I haven't actually been up there yet. I've gone everywhere else but that spot

just finished the game, where is this bilewater people are talking about?
also the double jump is in a secret area right?
I think I missed a lot of stuff so I'll keep wondering around but I most likely will have to do another run for the 100% completion (there is this one beetle right from the shop that you need to pay that I didn't kill before opening the door and I can't find him anywhere else so rip beastiary)

>>720029949
If you want the double jump you have to go to the ice mountain next to the slab

What's behind the Wormways door?

>>720012707 (OP)
Find another hobby.
And if you happen to be a socialist of some kind, I would ask you nicely to go fuck yourself and never come back - but something tells me you need this game to fail so as to keep a certain proverbial gravy train going. That's not going to happen and whatever industry that was serving as an industrial middle-class serving UBI scheme, is over. But either way, I want this game to succeed and filter people both inside and outside the industry as hard as it can.

>>720030220
https://hollowknightsilksong.wiki.fextralife.com/Sharpdart
you don't miss much. there are better

>>720029049
NEVERMIND
FUCK SINNERS ROAD

>>720030932
It gets worse.

First time I'm doing decent damage to this boss, and it decides to fuck off and not return.

The fact that everything does double damage feels a lot like forced difficulty

I guarantee the playtester looked like this thing