Thread 720019261

After many ages, I am finally looking to replace my 1060.
I know next to nothing about graphics cards, but my impression from looking it up was that the 3060 12gb is gonna be the best bang for my buck if I really only care about medium settings 30-60 fps.
What says /v/? And what graphics card is/isn’t getting the job done for you?

>>720019261 (OP)
I want to replace mine too, but I want something cheap that can maintain at least 60 fps on low for another decade.

I wish I could just boost my GTX1080's VRAM or whatever so I could run local LLMs/ image generators. None of this new, poorly optimized, slop is actually worth upgrading graphically for.

>>720019261 (OP)
9060 XT 16GB, or B580 if you want to go cheaper and test the waters with intel's new gpus.

>>720019261 (OP)
>ebin spongebob maymay

I wish millenials would fuck off already.

>>720019261 (OP)
>UPGRADING to a 3060
>a fucking 3060
poorfag ni mo hodo ga aru

>>720019896
Season 1, 2 + the movie were good, and arguably the peak for western cartoons, but people who post maymays from the show on this site are cancer. It feels even more alien than frogposters somehow.

>>720019261 (OP)
Consider AMD since you're already not using DLSS or framegen on a 1060, it'll feel about the same. 3060 is kind of a waste of time at this point, the dollar ratio isn't what it used to be so you should really be bracing to spend an extra hundred or two.

Do not get a 50-model anything from nvidia, get a 4080 or 4090 if you can.

>>720019261 (OP)
Don't. Market is shit. Just keep the 1060.

>>720019261 (OP)
>I really only care about medium settings 30-60 fps
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the 3060 in this case. Its main drawback is that it doesn't load the 12gbs of ram as fast as 70/80/90 serials load their 8gbs, but again, this isn't a concern on middling settings and lower framerates. Anybody telling you that its bad are assuming you want to play games at 4k rendered resolution on maximum settings at 120 fps minimum. It should last you a clear decade, though it really depends on what you intend to play on it.

>>720019824
>b580
nta but is it worth to wait a month or two for b7 series?

>>720020412
I say it's not worth it because it's too weak to handle 1080p in all titles not just games that also run on a ps4 and that it'll get obsoleted in new titles in record time with the ps6 coming out. A decade at 1080p? People said the exact same thing word for word about the 2060 in 2020 and they got buttfucked.

>>720020752
>it's too weak to handle 1080p in all titles
It isn't

>>720020784
360p upscaled to 1080p is NOT 1080p. Hope that helps.

>>720020553
if it has 16GB like last gen then sure. they should be released in Q4 of this year anyhow, and I'm waiting on that too.

>>720019261 (OP)
you wanna get as much vram as possible in order to generate anime girls
the more vram you get the more anime girls you can generate at a time

>>720020876
*at least 16GB

>>720020828
Why do you insist on lying about cards? The 3060 runs fine on modern titles at 1080p. Turn off the fucking bells and whistles, huge difference in performance on a 3060. As OP already said, he only cares about average settings and lower framerates, he doesn't need the extra juice.

>>720019261 (OP)
I'm literally in your shoes, after 9 years I will finally replace my 1060 6GB, but I will go with the 5060 8GB, I know the whole meme about muh low VRAM, muh future proof but I don't care, I want a cheap card that runs everything even on low if need be, I play old games anyway and have a 1080p monitor.

>>720021213
you will 100% regret this

>>720019261 (OP)
mine's still working fi

>>720021213
>6gb to 8gb
:|

>>720021360
The 5060 runs the vram it has faster at 2280 MHz over the 1060's 1544 MHz. That's a substantial improvement on top of 2 extra GBs of vram.

>>720020397
The market will never get better.

>>720020919
Why do you? 30 fps at 1080p medium is not in any way "fine". It has no legs and will stop handling even that once the ps6 launches. It is a complete waste of money that will barely do the minimum of what OP asks for 2-3 years before needing to be replaced. Doesn't need the extra juice? A guy that held onto his 1060 for decade doesn't need a card that'll last just as long? Fuck off.

>>720021608
you will barely notice a difference and new games will run like shit
don't be retarded

>>720019261 (OP)
You have to go in chronological order, so you first upgrade to a 1080, and then a 2060 and so on. It's the only way to go, really.

>>720021730
I wonder if anyone did that thinking it would be an upgrade. Surely there is one retardgod out there.

I feel like the 3060 at 300 dollars is too expensive for what it is. A 5070 is over double the performance for less than double the price. Future-proofing is retarded, but if you're going to go so long without upgrading again then the extra 250 spread out over 8 years is giving pretty good returns.

For the record, I went from a 970 to a 4700 super last year.

>>720021804
The 5070 is like the 970 in that it's a no-brainer upgrade if you're in the market for a new card. Everything above and below it is a total scam.

>>720021652
Graphics in gaming has stagnated massively, most of the performance drain is from bad optimization. In ten years, they will barely look any different and we'll be two or three more generations of cards ahead with no substantial performance improvement. There are still games coming out that run on dinosaur tech.
>30 fps at 1080p medium is not in any way "fine".
Did you even read OP's post? He doesn't care about high end graphics settings. Personally, I think he should aim for a 70 or 80 of any series 30 or above or AMD equivalent, but he said cost is an issue, but his graphics settings aren't. Like I said in my first post, it really depends on what he's playing on the card.

>>720019261 (OP)
I got an AMD card. I need to install it and install Arch, which I'll use BTW in the coming month with Windows 10 dying, but I gotta do something on BF6 first before I do that.

Once that happens, it's RX time because Nvidia has lost their damn minds and don't deserve your money until the AI bubble bursts and funny Leather Jacket Man finally has to beg you to buy his overpriced trash fire cards again after fucking up the market post-10XX by inflating the fucking prices.

>>720021804
Depends on where you live, if you're not in the US, tariffs and shipping fuck hard. It takes years for cards to filter out and drop in price.

>>720021868
Graphics have stagnated but AI is going to skyrocket fidelity in a few years. In 10 years we'll have hit the plateau probably, and games will look 50x better than they do today.

>>720021307
RIP

>>720019824
>and test the waters with intel's new gpus.
I would, if they supported Linux. Unforuntately it's AMD or bust on that front.

>>720022015
>AI techbro
Of fucking course you are

>>720019824
I would wait for next gen arc to see if they're fixing the software bottleneck.

if you ever want to play around with AI, stick with NVIDIA. It is total hell trying to do it with an AMD card in comparison. It is no contest. Njudea has that on lock.

>>720022045
>retard with no argument

>>720021868
OP is saying he is okay with less than fine. He isn't the decider of what fine is. And he says he wants 30 fps, but with the knowledge that he kept his previous card for a decade then it needs to handle 30 fps for a decade. The 3060 ain't it because it is too weak for 1080p now and won't do shit once the ps6 comes out. Graphics stagnating has nothing to do with how poorly shit will run things get harder to run regardless of quality improvements so hardware purchases need to be made with that in mind.

>>720022118
>He buys the Snake Oil
Funny Leather Jacket Man is happy you give him $1,000+ for a dogshit card so you can make a ten titted woman and a 8 fingered man having sex, Retard-kun.

>>720022202
The PS6 isn't coming out anytime soon, and the games that use it as a minimum hardware benchmark are movies not worth playing. Only other alternative I can think of is he sticks with the 1060 and waits for the 60 series to come out so the 40s drop a little more in price as they flood the aftermarket from people upgrading. A few hundred bucks for an okay card that'll run what he's got in the meantime is nothing.

>>720021213
>but I will go with the 5060
NO
ANON STOP
ANYTHING BUT THAT, EVEN AMD

>>720022345
Ask anyone with an AMD card how awful it is to generate anything. It's like 20x more complicated and slower to boot.

>>720022345
its fun and new games are shit, sue me bruddah

>>720022409
7900 owner here
It's a little slower at 12 seconds for an un-upscaled gen (40s total for 1.5x upscale) but it's not difficult by any means.
I haven't tried to make any of those meme videos locally but I hear it takes forever for most people anyway.

>>720022409
plus it is also so poorly documented and you pretty much NEED to use linux and even then it probably still won't even be simple or work. I had a 9070XT and returned it just because of that reason.

ok but why would i want yo generate aisloppa

>>720019824
What's a good CPU for 9060 XT 16GB?

>>720019709
it's not over yet for us!
>1070 in comfyui rendered in 7 minutes.
I'm surprised 8gb of vram can do that.

>>720022713
>ask
>get answer
>"didn't ask"
ok

>>720022713
why else would you upgrade your gpu?

>>720022713
it is entertaining to see what you can make, especially if you have literally zero talent with creating crap.

>>720022768
Can you share your workflow? I didn't know you could generate vids with that little vram.

>>720022713
pp hard

>>720022771
i'm not that anon
>>720022824
errrr.....to play games.....?

>>720019261 (OP)
what do you mean replace? youre going to need a whole new rig

>>720022898
The only games worth playing still run decently on a 1060, everything else is streamerslop or cash grabs.

>>720023097
I made this thread because I wanted to play MGS Delta :p

>>720023269
Emulate the original instead.

>>720022898
>playing games on new gpus instead of generating anime girls

>>720023436
This. I played Delta and can confirm emulating the game is the better way to play it.

>>720022374
Pissing away a few hundred bucks to go from a horrific runny shit performance to explosive diarrhea is not sound advice and it sounds like you're crab in a bucketing OP since that's the awful GPU you have. You can get significantly more value with like 50 dollars more buying a piece of shit 8gb card like the 9060 xt 8gb. Just stop.

>>720023436
I tried to but I don’t have pressure sensitive buttons and I was getting a lot of camera issues

>>720022881
I'm too dumb to figure out how to share the actual json but this is what I've got. To get this to work you have to use a more compact wan model but honestly this is much faster than anything else I've tried. Like I normally take 20+ minutes to generate a couple second video that has a shit ton of flaws. This method with smaller models and a refiner seems to make it work decent for us 8gb card owners and brings it down to as fast as 6 minutes.

>>720022713
You dont, its a massive waste of time sice you are literally creating slop, i tried it for 1 week and i dont know how people do this garbage for years

>>720022374
You're a nefarious little shill man, either that or you're fucking retarded, there are literally cheaper cards than a 3060 which is end of its life that are far faster. Hell the 9060 xt 8gb is literally 50+% faster and it's the same fucking price. How on earth you could recommend a 3060 in 2025 is insane.

>>720023951
They're creative.

>>720022734
What's your current one?

>>720019261 (OP)
I've been on the same rig for almost a decade and I dread the day I need to upgrade because I'm pretty sure I'll be stuck paying twice the money for hardware that's half as good. When my current rig kicks the bucket I'll probably just kill myse

What’s the word on the intel b580? Looks like a good budget option at a glance

>>720022768
>>720023630
That's pretty neat yo.

>>720024449
why would you want israel to detonate your pc

>>720024197
i5 4460

>>720019261 (OP)
only non-retarded-expensive upgrade would logically be 2060

4090 thinktop lappy is 2k right now heh.

>>720024638
9600x or 7600x, anything on AM5

>>720024845
5600 and am4 is too outdated?

>>720024876
It's a dead platform now, you go am5 so you can upgrade in the future when it's still supported into 2028. Plus better ram(cheaper now too)

>>720019261 (OP)
Upgrade to a RX580. It's good enough for Linux Torovisnky, the Russian spy, so it's good enough for you, chuddie. :3

>>720025023
There is no future.

>>720024071
I'm assuming OP is dirt fucking poor and literally does not give a fuck about performance past a point, as per his post. But you know what? Fuck it. He should spend a clear thousand or something on a 4080 Ti, that's the one I have and that's about what I got mine for. He can always pay it off in installments, pretty sure paypal or afterpay has him covered there.

>>720025072
hmmrrhhgh im not a chuddie >:c

>>720019261 (OP)
if you want budget then yeah the 3060 is a decent pick
with dlss4+ you'll be able to coast for probably a decade

>3060 12gb is le good
>but 4060/5060 8gb are le bad despite costing the same (or like 10 burgers extra)
yes 4060/5060 are still trash because nvidia is a vram jew but still better for 90% of the stuff you will run unless all you care is genning/skyrim with extra mods

pc master race

brownoids on decade old hardware

>>720026026
The worst performance issues are vram issues because they can come out of nowhere and drop you when it was fine a minute ago rather than just consistently slower that you can deal with. I don't recommend getting a 3060 because it costs too much money for what it is, but it's objectively a better card than a 4060 or 5060.

>>720026386
If you look at any sector of society it's mostly brown because most of the entire human race is brown. Saying this doesn't mean anything.

>>720025648
Not poor, just don’t like spending. Especially since I don’t really play video games all that often

>>720026762
What sorts of games do you play?

>>720026458
>objectively
Guess all those comparison videos that show the 8gb cards winning in 1080/1440 during gaming tests by a good amount outside of some indeed notable situations are nvidia shills?

>>720021804
if the budget is 300
get a used rx6800

>>720026859
This. The amount of vram the card has available is not the only metric you need to look at, the clock speed is just as important. Anything above 2k MHz at this point is critical for the latest AAA unoptimised memeslop, but nice to have in anything else.

>>720022045
He's right. Ten years those 'world generation models' that are SOTA right now will both be more advanced, and efficient, as well as what is enterprise becoming consumer on the same schedule.
Your games will be 90% AI in ten years.

>>720026859
Selectively avoiding scenes where they run into issues to show the 4060 and 5060 in a better light sure qualifies, yes.

>>720027093
A game that is >20% slop is not a game I want to play

>>720026505
nta but that's a dumb ass thing to see when scrolling.
That would only be true if there was an equal distribution of brown people across all groups.

>>720020919
Anon my 4060 could not run silent hill 2 remake on medium without huge dips going below 30fps. A 3060 would probably average about 35fps the whole time. UE5 games are insanely unoptomised. No 60 series card cuts it anymore.

>>720027697
Did you drop the settings to low and turn off dumb shit like depth of field, motion blur, chromoatic abberation, film grain, etc, etc?

>>720027207
do you use any amount of resolution scaling?

>>720027824
Going past 1080p is a meme, what do you even get out of resolutions higher than that?

>>720027904
>anon doesn't know what resolution scaling is

>>720026795
Mostly older co-op with my friends. Stuff like Left for Dead. Every once in a while I get interested in playing a newer game too though so I’d like to at least have the ability to play them at medium settings. Seems like most games now have the 2060 as the minimum requirement, so I thought I’d get something a bit better than that

>>720019261 (OP)
>3060
no. too old
>>720019709
>I wish I could just boost my GTX1080's VRAM or whatever so I could run local LLMs/ image generators.
BAD GOY, BAD. YOU WILL PAY THE VRAM AND MEMETRACING TAX

>>720031151
>Mostly older co-op with my friends. Stuff like Left for Dead.
3060 will clear that no problem, for newer titles however you shouldn't settle for anything less than a 70 suffix, 30 and 40 series cards are relatively cheap compared to the 50 series. Since spending is a thing for you, I'd go with a 3070, but really you should consider future proofing with a 4070 at minimum, higher short term cost, but lower in the long term, and you get decent performance out of it for games. AMD equivalent of these is also suitable, and usually cheaper because it helps them stay competitive with Nvidia cards. I think Intel is planning on dropping out of the GPU race, so theirs aren't going to be worth it long term, but the prices should dump on stock clearance once that goes through.

>>720020397
NTA, but my issue is my 1060 is 9 years and running. I'm going to eventually need a replacement card.

Kinda holding out to see how the 5000 Super line-up looks, otherwise I'm a wait for Intel's 3rd-gen cards since they seem to understand what sane pricing is.