Thread 720031634

Give me one (1) reason why you chose to play Runescape over Ragnarok Online growing up

Ragnarok Online didn't exist back then

>>720031634 (OP)
friend showed me runescape on miniclip which meant we could play it in the public library
if i wasn't a poorfag i'd have been a wowfag, eventually got around to playing wow and i can see why it was the big cheese of the era

>>720032302
We had the best of it back then. WoW, Runescape, Ragnarok Online, FFXI, Maplestory. Why did we throw it all away? What went horribly wrong?

>>720032353
social element sort of melted away with social media
unironically normies are having a blast on discord or whatever the latest social app is

Because Runescape was more fun

>>720032353
I didn't. The devs did.
Fucking Grand Exchange.

>>720031634 (OP)
I didn't play either.

>>720032415
The Grand Exchange wasn't bad and I'm tired of pretending it is

>>720032415
Friendly reminder that the Grand Exchange was added in late 2007, and the game's peak was between then and ~2010.
And then OldSchool came out without the GE, people quickly realized that it was fucking shit having to spend several hours offloading loot and buying potions, and the players overwhelmingly voted for a "trade post" system to be added (list trades, then you'd hop to worlds to trade that player). That was still shit, so again players overwhelmingly voted for the GE to be added.

We got to experience in real time the "muh GE ruined the game" fags be proven completely wrong, but it's been long enough that they've all forgotten and have come back out to be obnoxious fags again.

>>720032560
Now we should try the same experiment but with dungeon queuing in WoW because there are players who honestly believe having to walk to each dungeon is better

>>720031634 (OP)
Does Ragnarok even get new content any more? I've never played it, genuinely know nothing about the game.
To me it feels like a game that relies strongly on nostalgia, I can't imagine it has many new players. Unlike OSRS which proved it doesn't need nostalgia, with its playerbase only growing as new content was added.

they should re-invent the magic armor from twilight princess and have it slurp the gold straight out of players

>>720032513
>let's take half the players in this social MMO and pack them into one area because tradeniggers want to turn their game into a chore that should be played as efficiently as possible
I started playing a lot less after it and soon stopped entirely.
>inb4 people did the same in the Varrock bank
Not to near the same extent, there were a lot more people looking to offload their items wherever was convenient to the skill they were training. There was no benefit to staying in Varrock beyond more potential buyers.

>>720031634 (OP)
The kids in my neighborhood were all obsessed with Runescape and I never heard of Ragnarok.

>>720032825
It gets new maps every few months

>>720031634 (OP)
The music

>>720032408
Pisscord really did ruin socialization. No one wants to talk to strangers in-game anymore. Everyone already has a friend that they either met in the game and took their friendship to discord chat or they met from a discord server centered around the game and only socialize with the community in the server. Remember when back being in an MMO guild felt like you were an Akatsuki member? Good times...

>>720033205
While I agree for the most part, I think we also have to consider that interactions online have become a lot less relaxed because the internet as a whole lost that early sense of community where we all felt like we were at least part of the same thing. We didn't need harsh punishment for flaming back then because there was a feeling it was among peers who were in on that culture. I'm not saying it was all candy, there were still plenty of lowlives around, but overall, when you talked to a stranger, chances were good that they would have a friendly disposition and be willing to socialize if you clicked. Nowadays, everything's so fucking charged by politics and belief and a thousand other things that people see strangers more as potential conflict than anything else.

Also, games have made it harder to talk to each other in this way. P2P matchmaking, for example, often doesn't let you talk to anyone but your team, whereas on dedicated servers, you could just talk in general chat.

>>720031634 (OP)
because i'm white, not jungle asian

>>720033205
>too much of a boomer to use Discord
>but still really enjoy the MMO format
>forced to spend my time playing in soulless, lonely worlds
Being an aging MMO enjoyer is suffering.

>>720034889
runescape integrated twitch chat so now you can talk to imaginary players who are watching you instead of playing the multiplayer game :^)

>>720034976
Oh cool, now I just need to figure out streaming and get an audience and I won't be so lonely haha..

>>720035126
it might not be quite so sad had /rsg/ survived

>>720035393
I quit RS3 in like 2014, and /rsg/ about the same time, but it is still a pity it's gone.
Because all that's left is /osg/, and that's a genuine hellhole of 24/7 circlejerking and unironic Discord raids.

>>720035590
who knows maybe we're not so old that we wont live to see a revived RS4

run escape

>>720031634 (OP)
Bump

>>720032901
absolutely no one except (You)r autistic ass enjoyed having to sit for minutes spamming the login button just to get into world 1 or 2, then sitting for potentially hours autotyping, or, god forbid, manually typing trade messages in a sea of retards doing the same exact thing at varrock west or fally park
you nostalgianiggers are ridiculous

>>720036195
I heard that the Necromancy update really, really fucked the balance of RS3 up (it's a fourth combat style, not just a bonus thing like summoning or thralls), so who knows, maybe
And Jagex were talking about how dedicated they are to un-fucking RS3 (though mostly just the mtx aspect)

>>720031634 (OP)
Nobody I knew at the time had ever even heard of ragnarok online. Is it much older than runescape?

>>720039035
As I implied, I'm not a trade ape so I didn't waste my time with that.

>>720031634 (OP)
Because me and several kids were playing RS1 in the computer lab at school back in 2002 because it was a browser game we could play together and talk about. It was something that united a lot of different groups for a while.
Then the school blocked the site cause it was destroying their bandwidth.

>>720031634 (OP)
Ragnarok Online is not playable on miniclip in 2004

>>720031634 (OP)
I didn't
Mostly because I didn't even know Runescape existed, but even if I did Ragnarok looks much nicer

Runescape has actual quests

>>720039096
Surprisingly Ragnarok is newer if you count RS Classic. It was released in August 2002, RS was January 2001.
But it sure looks older.

>>720032825
I found it to be the exact opposite. I had played runescape as a kid in ~2005, and coming back to OSRS I found it boring with very little differentiation between content, next to no socialization or cooperation outside of the very endgame content, and full of daily/hourly chores that sucked the fun out of the game and made me quit. The only thing that kept me playing for so long was artstyle and nostalgia.
I played Ragnarok Online for the first time about 5 years ago on a private server, and it quickly became my favorite mmo. Huge breadth of content both solo and cooperative, distinct differences in classes with massive strengths and weaknesses and niches in gameplay, large variation in how the game is played between areas accounting for different enemy combinations, behaviors, weaknesses, and immunities, the impetus to engage in the majority of content because of the card system making most everything relevant in some form, and actual socialization between players in towns and out in the world. As far as I know there's no "classic" RO being hosted officially with new content, it's all either a newer version or private servers with or without fan adjustments.

>>720031634 (OP)
Played both, but I preferred Runescape because I only played high rates RO servers because young me thought bigger number = better and those servers were soulless.

>>720031634 (OP)
I found Runescape through some flash game site as a kid and got addicted. Played it for years but then I started to hate MMOs. Now that I'm older I appreciate the mindless grind while listening to audio books or podcasts. I'm fucking shit at the game though I still haven't got a fire cape

>>720039502
Makes sense. I didn't know about rs until around rs2, so I definitely just completely missed ragnarok.

>>720039613
>no firecape
ngmi brother

Need 2007scape server with G.E please

>>720039680
>G.E.
How bout no

was looking into BDO at one point
supposedly the fishing and sailing are peak comfy for MMO

>/v/scape still up
wtf

>>720039613
post stats. fire capes are actually trivial if you take 2 minutes to learn jad attacks and familiarize yourself with switching tabs with F keys

>>720035590
The LESS power abusing/authoritarian people split off from osg to form 4clan, consider guesting if you'd like. Its probably the main reason Im still playing osrs at this point.

>>720039563
That's very interesting actually, to hear about it from the other perspective.
I think there was an announcement for RO3 a month or so back, which as far as I can tell is basically the same thing with slightly fancier graphics, might be worth a try then.

I am still certain that it is nearly entirely older players however

>>720039035

Nta, but when I started the game seeing people constantly trading and talking made the game feel alive. If a player started now, it'd probably take them awhile to see a player chat

>>720039672
I know, to make it worse I have a blowpipe and still haven't made it to Jad. I always fuck up running and get melee'd while trying to position enemies. If the caves didn't take so long I'd probably keep trying but it's such a pain in rhe ass

>>720039727
I should be able to play the game without ever having to interact with trannies

If you weren't around for the days of active f2p pking you aren't a real gamer

>>720039035
>or, god forbid, manually typing trade messages
Now I understand why I'm so good at typing

>>720040187
>spend weeks grinding giants and burying big bones to get protection prayers
>go back to wildy
>everyone calls me a cheater
Those were the times...

>>720040084
>google Ragnarok Online 3
>"Ragnarok Online 3 is already confirmed to have P2W"
>auto farming
>pet gacha
>a gacha inside of another gacha system
>the good old "chance to upgrade gear, but breaks if you fail... unless you buy this item from the in game store!!" mechanic
Wew this is looking to be a big old turd.

>>720031634 (OP)
I was a poorfag and also I had never heard of that shit when I was a kid

>>720032415
Anyone complaining about the Grand Exchange never spent hours trying to sell their shit or advertise on the forums.

>>720032935
This. It's not like people played MMOs because they were actually good.

>>720040435
That's the most backwards statement imaginable. The ONLY people who resent the Grand Exchange are those old enough to remember what the game was like before it. HDbabbies have no frame of reference.

>>720040435
It was pretty easy to sell shit if you had something that was actually in demand and not 2 grapes

>>720040253
For me, it's habbo hotel

>>720040046
I know I got the stats. Mainly me fucking up, just need to practice but I hate how long it takes.
> familiarize yourself with switching tabs with F keys
Yeah I actually started doing this for sort of practice but I thought I could get away with mouse only until I kept fucking up. I know it's me I just gotta man up and do it. SotF final boss took me like 20 tries but at least that wasn't too long to get back and try again

>>720040435
>anyone complaining about the Grand Exchange isn't the target audience for the Grand Exchange
What a bold and daring statement

>>720040546
Anon, I started playing in 2002. I came back 20 years later and the GE was a massive improvement. You have no idea what you're fucking talking about.

>>720031634 (OP)
2D MMOs are shit

>>720040808
GE was the 1st step of sweatscape / efficiency obsession

>>720040763
Use the plugin which shows you were the next wave spawns are going to be in your Fight Caves rotation (or check the wiki's rotations if you're one of those puritan fags), and the Fight Caves is ez pz
Nothing to worry about really, and I say that as a massive shitter.

I remembered there being a PK option you could only toggle on/off 3 times per character with a 15-20 minute cooldown, and you could create a character with it on or off. I started questioning if it actually existed because almost no one ever mentioned it.
Also apparently it meant I started playing RS back in 2001.... getting old sucks.

>>720041074
>those black armor chads

>>720040435
I only moved high volume items when I needed gp, so I sold Lobsters and Coal and even though it was fast it was just a chore, I can't imagine trying to merch rarer items, sounds fucking boring, the GE was absolutely the right move.

>>720040896
Ragnarok is a 3D world with pixel sprites.

>>720032408
TeamSpeak and Vent existed back then has well. The problem is that companies became bban happy and no one wants their money stolen.

>>720041038
>if you're one of those puritan fags
Kek I am but I'll probably try the plug in. Thanks anon I'll give it a shot tomorrow, got discouraged but I'll get it

>>720041716
>TeamSpeak and Vent existed back then has well.
yes that was sort of the beginning of the end, even having msn wasn't quite the death knell because not enough people were using it to the point where the culture of using it was normal so people would not want to use mic or webcam and it was essentially just faster texting but by the time skype came around things were noticeably shifting to less ingame chat and more oh im talking to my friends on skype

>>720041716
Felt like earlier on, microphones and webcams weren't commonplace for computers, and pretty much everyone had single monitor systems given the sheer size of them. So even though you could communicate through msn messenger, once you were in game with your friends it was just easier to use the game chat. That or you'd just tell your friend "fuck off I'm playing runescape" or set your status to busy and focus on one thing.
Also had overly protective parents and followed the golden rule to never put yourself on the internet.

>>720033205
Anon, online games stopped being social long before Discord was a thing. It was the rise of social media in general, plus the over-policing of ingame communication, that made people less likely to socialize.

>>720032753
Unironically yes, having to travel to dungeons is better. Being able to just insta-teleport to any dungeon from anywhere makes the game feel less like an MMO and more like a lobby game.

You can literally go level 15 to max without ever leaving a city. It's shit. RDF is fine but the teleporting isn't.

alright new idea
a new mmo that only runs on dedicated hardware so you have to communicate ingame
it could be hosted in like fuckin internet cafes if those still exist

>>720040061
You mean the clan formed by terminally online people who are paranoid about "cc reporters"? The clan ran by a power hungry retard that was exposed to be a cc reporter himself literally a week after he made his "no reporters" clan? Yeah, no thanks. I think I'll pass on the clan that will doxx people with low level accounts because they could be part of the ""osg cabal"" that is ironically kicking fewer players than the ranks in your newfriend clan.

>>720039928
Is anyone else working on a 2007 revision server but with G.E and without trannies cause I don't like that about vscape

>>720032353
Most people were having sex, making real memories and career moves. But yeah, you had it good because of a shitty pc game, evidenced by the fact you obsess over it 30 years later

>>720046965
Have you ever run into a tranny on OSRS? Question for the thread as well because I've played OSRS off and on for the past few years and if I ran into a tranny I didn't know it but everyone says it's full of it. The only time I can remember any sort of politics coming up at all was when I was cutting yew trees and people were arguing about Trump. And even then it was a shitposty argument.

>>720039085
Negromancy got Jagex to finally get off their fat asses and implement the impossible feature of having "This ability deals 100%-150% damage" tooltips actually tell you how much damage that is based on your gear.
Also it rebalanced all other combat styles so that accuracy is another damage modifier instead of actual accuracy(50% accuracy means you deal 50% of your maximum damage at all times, but on the flipside you never miss)

>>720047307
Only during the pride event stuff and when I tried entering into random clan chats but aside from that never in OSRS

>>720031634 (OP)
runescape was a good game until jagex started adding hardcore pvp combat to quests. runescape was never meant to be mechanically hard and i think the game lost its soul

>>720048234
>adding hardcore pvp combat to quests
What
I'm very far removed from RS3, but I only remember an extremely few amount of quests that went into the wildy there (mainly the one related to Corp)

>was never meant to be mechanically hard
OSRS' change from having "pray and wait" for every single encounter was sorely needed, and I think it's paid off great
Desert Treasure 2 is inarguably the greatest quest in any MMO.

>>720048509
meant pvm, not pvp

>>720048013
Yeah there I would expect it. And I get people being mad about that or the pronoun stuff. But I don't even think the silent majority of players even like that shit. But people bitch about trannies in OSRS all the time and I don't know where they're finding them, I would've expected to run into one by now

>>720048234
having learned the basic fact that copper and tin make bronze from runescape i always considered it low-grade edutainment with the skills serving as education on basic skills and technology from human history and the quests serving as comedic entertainment