Thread 720038634

what is taking him so long

>>720038634 (OP)
Didn't the first game take almost a decade to be made?

>>720038750
Seriously? How? This game is shallow and barren as fuck

>>720038816
Hes a lazy con artist who ditched his first game what did you expect

>>720038816
most of it was spent fixing the dogshit engine which kept breaking over the slightest tweaks

>>720038750
It was a one man studio for 6 years and only went to 20~ or so after the success of Kenshi, oddly enough the CEO Chris Hunt made Kenshi OCs for each of his employees instead of actual pictures on the company website

ITT: one autistic retard rants about how a game he undoubtedly has over 1,000 hours in sucks

>>720038980
>oddly enough the CEO Chris Hunt made Kenshi OCs for each of his employees instead of actual pictures on the company website
Soule

>>720038939
I cant imagine wanting to use your own engine as an indie, you're shooting yourself in the dick from the get-go.
99.95% of indies never sell a copy and you wanna sit down and spend half a decade making a shitty engine too?

>>720039408
i dont think he made it, it was an amateurish engine not designed for a game of such scale i believe.

>>720038634 (OP)
Beep

>>720038634 (OP)
I hope it's because they're working on simulating all the NPCs on the map at the same time
simulating them training, fighting, dying, getting stronger etc. a real economy with traders and shit
I know that's not the case but I can dream.

>>720040412
>unreal engine
Not gonna happen

I had to uninstall Kenshi because it caused problems with IRL. I put 170 hours on that game in like 3 weeks. Barely scratched the surface too.

Shit is addictive.

>>720038939
isnt he using unreal now?

It's a fun sandbox to play around in but isn't a good game. Clearly the developer didn't know what he wanted the game to be.

>>720040492
you can do all that in any engine.
no one bothers to do it though, there's not some magical performance wall stopping people.

>>720040412
>unreal
They are probably struggling to make it run as poorly as the first game.

>>720038634 (OP)
He's too busy pounding his sister pls understand

>>720040510
Same
Got giga addicted when I first played it

>>720040614
There's absolutely nothing wrong with games being heavy on simulation, rather than gameplay. A world bent on kicking your ass is fun in of itself.

Unreal Stutter Engine can't be any worse than the dogshit engine the first game runs on. I hope.

>>720039038
>don't enjoy a game
no

>>720040628
Other than Unreal engines massive overhead and scripting behavior not being as efficient as native code.

>>720040762
>being heavy on simulation
>Kenshi
You larpers are so fucking delusional
There's literally nothing being simulated in this game
Nothing meaningful is happening without player involvement

>>720038634 (OP)
Kenshi 1
>takes ages for Chris to put out demo, it is still pee pee poopoo but slowly gains traction
>people make free shit, including models, creatures were done by big name ex employee at animation studio, fully rigged and modeled
>also buildings and even icons
>fast forward after release, Chris now has a team, releases poll
>Continue in Ogre engine or make Kenshi 2
>people optimistically pick Kenshi 2 option
>Team starts working on Unreal Engine 4 (it is actually fairly decent)
>At some point team switched to 5, 2-3 screenshots gor released but nothing solid
>Chris held management position when development started on 2 but moved to dev side again(presumably because no progress was done)
>opened bluedo sky account, made some rabid cunt steam moderator
>his """sister""" is also the main writer for 2
no doom yet but shapes up to be really another decade long project

>>720041013
I haven't used unreal, but in Unity I can make burst compile classes and do maths on 100,000's of entities positions at ~1000fps, on the main thread no jobs.
I just looked it up and you can achieve hardware maximums in Unreal doing Vector maths with all the SIMD stuff like normal
there's no reason Unreal would stop you simulating your world.

>>720041340
>the game isn't fun because I actually have to decide things
Do NOT play RPGs

>>720042027
>YOU CAN KILL THAT CHARACTER? AND OTHER ONE? AND EVEN STEAL ITEMS!!!
>WOAH BAZINGERS
>GREATEST SIMULATOR EVER!!!
nigger there's no economy in this game, items just appear in store from thin air
Cats are infinite and practically useless post early game
Theres no war between factions, no city sieges, no raids on traders(because there's no economy) NOTHING
This game is as much sim as gothic 1
Retarded cultist

>>720038750
Kenshi's development began in 1998 and took 16 years to release. It's the longest development time of any video game ever.

>>720042390
How would you have any of those things in a game that has a party limit of 40? Kenshi was never going to be mountain blade.

>>720042667
>Well acshually you can't do economy in game, it's scientifically impossible
Then what the fuck is it "simulating"?
Murder hobo sim? Theft sim?
Name one complex thing in this game

>>720039408
>I cant imagine wanting to use your own engine as an indie
>spend half a decade making a shitty engine
It's not required at all anon, literally 1 week and a half ago an almost decade old project made on UE4 finally came out and it's pretty underrated, the environments are peak aesthetic the PS5 version it's worse though, you should play it on PC.

>>720042883
Everything else trying to kill you is simulated. It's just that money is of no consequence in an apocalyptic world. Cats buy you food, maybe a rusty weapon. You can sell hash and make infinite money? You think you discovered an exploit? With useless money? It is a murder hobo sim. What else would it be? Faction wars would literally just boil down to sheks and robots beating everyone in 50 days anyway since they have the best stats for combat. You think The Holy Nation is going to get anywhere when they fear prosthetics? None of that moves so the player can have time to achieve what he wants. I'm deeply sorry that your sense of fun comes from nothing but observation. Maybe you should just watch TV.

game development takes so long how do you not end up just scrapping your work halfway through to use new techniques and workflows? it seems like a never ending process.

>>720045362
People underestimate how many people had their first introduction to TES through Skyrim

>>720038634 (OP)
I wouldn't be surprised if he's struggling to make that "boats" idea work out. There's so much more logistics to think about when maneuvering boats that he wouldn't have had to think about with half a dozen troops walking on sand.

>>720038634 (OP)
bump

Are Scorchlanders white?

>>720040510
>Barely scratched the surface too.

>>720040612
>i had to spend years making own engine and it still had tons of performance issues, but eventually, and with some community mods, the game pulled through
>the sequel must be..... IN UNREAL....!!!

>>720049863
Honestly better than whatever shit he used for the original. Probably will result in more mods as well as more people are familiar with unreal than literally who: the engine.

>>720041340
You can find squads from the various factions patrolling around. Sometimes they fight each other which is always a pleasant sight when you're out for a walk. You can find tech hunters out in the absolute middle of nowhere which fits their job description. Raiders or bandits getting their asses kicked by guards. Smaller towns getting completely overrun by beak things and the like.
It could be much better but it could be worse.

Sure it's not like wars are actively being waged between the factions but there's still a solid amount of simulation. And at the very least, it makes sense lore-wise since all the factions aren't in a position to be too aggressive (Holy Nation fighting a war on all fronts, Shek Kingdom recovering from a civil war, UC suffering from food shortages) when the game takes place.