Thread 720046691

>"indie game"
>100+ people in the credits

>AAA game
>5 people in the credits

>>720046691 (OP)
those are backers

>>720046785
If you take money from others, then you're not indie (independent).

>>720046691 (OP)
>Western studio but 70% of credits have "Patel" as their last name.

team cherry has the gall to call themselves a 3 man team and the actual credits are several minutes of QA coordinators, sound engineers and musicians, background artists, voice actors, marketing, etc etc, unironically pisses me off

>>720047438
you do know there's companies that dedicate themselves entirely to QA and nothing else? likely they contracted some and are crediting them

>>720046901
That’s not how it works

>>720046691 (OP)
I think you misunderstood what 'indie' means.
>>720046901
So I have to starve or beg daily in front of a supermarket before I finish my game to count as indie?
Sounds like /v/tardation to me.

>>720047543
Then I guess Half-Life 3 with it's ~80 person dev team is also "indie" too then huh?

>>720047526
Ok so I built my house ( I contracted every single tradesmen that I needed and I just paid for it)

>>720047438
Contractors are not a part of the team. They're dispensable goons responsible for a specific task with no control beyond the scope of what they're asked for.

>>720047581
>So I have to starve or beg daily in front of a supermarket before I finish my game to count as indie?

>>720046901
I guess my independent shop isnt independent, because other people buy my stuff

>>720047601
Indie just means you're free from publishers not that you're poor.

>>720047628
More like you built your house (but you had an inspector come and inspect it and a landscaper to come do the lawn)
Retard

>>720046901
It really depends how much money you receive and under what conditions

>>720046691 (OP)
>>720047526
>>720046785
indie = independently published.
it doesn't really matter how large your team is, as long as you aren't beholden to some third party.
I'd argue kickstarted games are no longer indie depending on their pledges, they've just crowdsourced a publisher.

>>720047628
That's literally how Nick Rochefort operates. Sam always gives people who smoke weed shit unless it's his friend Nick because he "built his own house" and the fat fuck just bitches about contractors and wood workers on every episode of PGL>>720047641

>>720047819
>indie = independently published.
So Stardew Valley wasn't an indie game by that logic despite being made by one guy entirely, nice logic there.

>>720047438
Hollow Knight is fine, but Hades 2 has 200 CORE MEMBERS on their team and they still call themselves indie.

>>720046774
>AAAAA game
>no people in the credits

>>720048087
Stardew Valley is an indie game since the developer didn't use a publisher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardew_Valley

>RPG
>its just an action game with numbers

>>720048226
That is because that studio is the original sin of fake indie games. Bastion was good but it was not indie. It's a fucking Warner Brothers funded and published game.
They paved the way to make indie just mean 2d by a not established IP.

>>720048465
>since the developer didn't use a publisher

>>720048465
underage

>>720048521
>its just an action game with numbers
>people still insist that it is infact an RPG because they made up all kinds of details and backstories for their character and pretend things that never could happen in the game happened and this fanfiction means the game is something you can roleplay in
God how is it possible that these people are the ones in charge of deciding what games die and what games succeed.

>>720048632
>>720048790
It wasn't an indie game but now it is since they no longer have a publisher.

>>720048521
I hate this so fucking much
I swear, every modern "RPG" is like this
Hell, some other games fit in RPG genre better than them despite not being labeled as such

>>720049821
but you said they didn't use a publisher

>>720048087
That's what the word fucking means you retard.
It doesn't mean small or low budget.

>>720047601
Yes.
"Indie" just means that you don't have a publisher and/or are a small dev team. It's the opposite of "AAA" which is made by huge corporations.

....of course, I wish that "indie" still meant "individual", but we're kind of past the point where a single person can make a videogame more complex than simple flash games, in a reasonable amount of time.

Praised as an Indie Studio.
Dev is the son of a billionaire.

>>720046691 (OP)
and npcs rush to support "indies" or at least that's what their pr thinks
I am still confused by both sides

>>720050451
they are AA, nobody ever said indie.
also I'm sorry your parents were lazy parasite and couldn't give you a future, Rasheet.

>>720046691 (OP)
>indie game
>the dev works with Nintendo

>>720050807
>nobody ever said indie
And so the revisionism begins.

>"uhm actually it's not Indie because someone bought the distribution rights after the product was finished"
Hate this cope

>>720046901
>Did not built his own computer and programs and created electricity for his game
Pfff do you even indie, bro??

>>720050427
Cyberpunk 2077 is an indie game, going by that definition. CD Projekt self published the game

>coded by one guy in assembly
>2 people did the art and music
>additional bug testing and qa by some hasbro people

Let me guess... You need more?

>>720047767
If you depend on people to fund your project (thereby making them stakeholders in your product), you are not independent.