Thread 720056457

Wait, Silk Song being $20 is "controversial"?

no, stop believeing jurno slop

>>720056457 (OP)
Writing hit pieces isn't going to cause team cherry to up the lrice

>>720056457 (OP)
Twenty bucks is pretty standard. Journoshills are literally losing their minds.

Devs should set the price that they would pay for their game if they went out and bought it at a store themselves. Team Cherry likes inexpensive games and that's unfathomably based.

>>720056457 (OP)
Wasnt Hollow Knight $15?

is this the indie equivalent of when AAA devs were mad at Elden Rings success

>>720056457 (OP)
Controversial to the 5 people on Twitter? Yes

>>720056457 (OP)
TWENTY dollaradoos for indieslop??? Yeah no, that's gunna be a "yikes" from me, pal.

>>720057776
This. It's just indies being salty as fuck over another games success

>>720058225
Most indie devs don't have an ego the size of a blimp and think they can get away with charging people 30+ dollars.
Anyone in the space knows that 20 is already pushing it. 10 for midsized, and 5 for small arcade games.
Scale and scope matters to get units sold.

I feel people have gone backwards in thinking. The price of goods is determined by what the developer believes it is worth and what they think they can get the most sales out of it. There is no thing as a set price. Variable pricing has existed as long as gaming has. Why are people trying to extract per entertainment value of what a game cost should be?

>>720056457 (OP)
Obviously. Other devs want their lesser products at a much higher price. Silksong is lowering the bar.

>>720056457 (OP)
$20 is a pretty good price point for an indie game. It's low enough that you could get away without ever going on sale, similar to how Factorio used to be.

>>720058907
This dude knows what's up.

>>720056457 (OP)
Fuck it I'll say it since nobody else here will.

I'm a dev. And I've been working with 4 others to make a game.

Our price point was $25. Now think for a second why $20 silksong just absolutely nullified our hard work.

This means 1. Nobody will buy our game now if it's over $20.

2. We need to lower our price.

Basically team cherry fucked us all and even good indie games with this stupid pricing they just did. The fuck is wrong with them.

>>720056457 (OP)
Just clickbait, they need to write something about the current popular thing

>>720059979
You gotta be more realistic with your bait if you want anons to bite.

>>720056457 (OP)
>checks peak
>checks repo
Why the fuck weren't they saying anything about those 2 games?

>>720059979
lol get fucked loser. Nobody owes you $25 and whining about it will never change that. If you want more money sell more copies at a consumer-friendly rate.

>>720056457 (OP)
No. It's a fake controversy. Exactly one person said such a thing, and only after the media ran these stories. The reality is, it's shitting on big devs. Borderlands 4 releases in a few days, and it's $130 for the full release.

Basically, AAA devs are pissed that people aren't sucking their dicks to make them look good.

>>720056457 (OP)
Should be cheaper

>>720059979
No you aren't.

>>720060163
Borderlands 4 didn't release the same week as those two games. Gearbox is notorious for shitposting around game releases, because 100% of their releases have been drowned out by other, much better, much more successful games.

>>720058225
Many of the journalists have friends who make shit indie games and they are unironically shilling against Hollow Knight for them because they want their friend to make it big and then they can get nepo-hired as a manager when they expand.

>>720059979
Im also a dev and don't think it matters

>>720056457 (OP)
>Don't send copies to the juornos
>they mad
>its racket time
>but nobody cares anymore, its not 2015

>>720060419
>70 for base
>130 for a handful of skins, legendary gear (what for considering the game is about the loot), more missions and whatever
That's a hell of a price for a lite expansion

>>720059979
I know you're not a real dev but if you were, this wouldn't be a problem if you'd made a better game. A game is worth what people will pay for it and if your game isn't worth $25, don't complain that the smarter dev accurately priced their own game and sold buttloads.
500k (active players at once) times $20 is a fat fucking payday for an indie dev.

>>720059979
>What is a free market?
Picrel you

>>720059979
>Our price point was $25. Now think for a second why $20 silksong just absolutely nullified our hard work.
if your game is good then any price wont be an issue.

I never buy new games so I was under the impression that most Indie games were $20 to $30 on release. What's the normal price these days? Weren't they supposed to be a cheaper option to non-indies?

>game too expensive BAD
>game too cheap BAD'
I hate jewish "people"

>>720056457 (OP)
indie devs are scammers that don't want to provide value in exchange for money

>>720060969
>jews out of no where
rent free huh

>>720056457 (OP)
game is free

>>720059979
>NOOOOOO MY POTENTIAL PROFIT MARGINS!!!!
""""""indie""""""" devs, gentlemen

>>720061531
>jew got triggered

>>720061858
You will never be a woman

>>720060463
Anon, just... cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

>>720059979
just make your game worth 25 then, you lazy fuck.

>>720061784
Tbf it's the only game, I actually bought in ~4 years

>>720059979
Whats your game then "Mr Dev"? Either post some links, or be exposed as fake and gay larper

>>720059979
>retards fell for this

>>720059979
Balatro was $14.99 just as a reference.

>>720059979
unless you're literally making Silksong At Home, you'll be able to get away with $25 just fine, even hardcore Monkey Island Theorem believers will stretch it a bit if the game looks enough like something they want.
if you are making Silksong At Home, then lol lmao skill issue

>>720060661
Their punishment is they won't get nominated for The Game Rewards.., I mean The Game Awards

>>720059979
Just sell it for $25

>>720056457 (OP)
(((Journalist))) think it's a bad precedent

>>720056457 (OP)
Game journalists deserve flaying to death.

>>720057727
Yes.
It seems some comunist developers are upset that there isn´t a worldwide union of indie developers.

>>720059979
Mine game is $8 because I'm not a greedy moron like you. Silksong has no impact on me.

>>720056457 (OP)
short answer
>no
long answer
>AAAA vidya company BTFO
>lol
>lmao even

>>720056457 (OP)

Controversy implies both points of view being somewhat valid, there is no controversy here. You either do right by the consumers or you are wrong.

Individual companies management issues are not the community´s problem. Devs can either do something or they can not and if they can not it means they need to improve to stay in business. That´s how it works. Devs and artists are not equally skilled. Pipelines differ for many reasons and so do resource administration and marketing.

Complaining about Silksong´s price tag is the same as all those devs that complained about BG3 quality last year. If you can´t do it then you can´t do it. You change or you die. That´s capitalism and it´s savage as fuck but there are no brakes on this train.

>>720060160
Bet you feel silly now, huh

>>720056457 (OP)
YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE! It's not fair to everyone else that spent years of their lives and money making a pile of shit copying 30 year old games poorly only to sell it for 20 bucks, ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR!

>>720059979
if you're bitching this hard over silksongs's price, your game is definitely not worth 25 or 20

Price your game what you think it deserves.
The market will decide if it wants it or not.

The virgin "market decides the value" vs the Chad undercut

>>720056457 (OP)
It is because it was assumed to be an absolute flawless game the entire world was waiting for and it would prove you don't need to be greedy to make a masterpiece.
But 78% positive reviews have washed the controversial aspects away and put the game squarely on the "mediocre" park with all the other indie metroidvanias that are a dime a dozen, so its price is now justified because its quality is the same as any of the indie shovelware that gets released daily.

>>720059979
lower your fucking price

>>720059979
You sound like a bitch, if you yourself have zero confidence in your game then why should anyone else?

>>720056457 (OP)
Astroturfing by companies that want to normalize $80+ games.

>>720066369
fucking this
big corpo normalizing $80 allows indie to make the $40~50 bracket their turf
fuck both of them

>>720059979
>2000~ video games released EVERY MONTH
You're fucked, dude.

what happened to matthew griffin to make him go from sucking ass at marketing (wanderlust) to being able to get the whole internet constantly arguing about a dumb fucking platformer?

>>720056457 (OP)
Threadly reminder that journos are still assblasted about not getting review copies.

>>720066690
The game is twenty dollars.
How broke do you have to be to not be able to buy it?

>>720056457 (OP)
Team Cherry's first game sold 15 million units.
They set the price that low, because they knew they would sell a shitload of games.
>Talentless indies butthurt. Call up their journofriends to cry to the public about it.

Sandfall Interactive(E33) lowered the price of the game to 50USD to break into the market.
>AAA games butthurt and called their propaganda machine to make more articles with "And this isn't a good thing" in them

>>720066775
No, they expected early review copies, so they could tell people whether or not to buy it before it came out (the real reason is so they could get in early on the hype rather than just confirm for everybody that the game is good after they've already started playing it.

the jig is up, the veil is lifting. there isn't a single video game that's ever been worth even one dollar. you'd be better off huffing jenkem than paying money to play with complicated tinker toys.

>>720059979
wtf I love team cherry now

>>720056457 (OP)
>enourmous influence on the gaming industry
It's been out for less than a week. Did the AI slop article get it confused with Hollow Knight?

>>720059979
Indie games aren't socialism, it's smallscale capitalism.
None of the other game devs are your friends and they don't owe you anything.

>>720059979
Bitch I never pay over $20 for an indie game anyway. You can't lose a sale you never had in the first place.

>>720056457 (OP)
In 2020 dollars that'd be $15 for a brand new game from people who already put out a hit
People are losing their minds over the equivalent of Metroid II being sold for five bucks out of the back of a van on the side of the road

>>720056457 (OP)
among greedy indie devs, yes

>>720057776
More like when every RPG dev shat themselves at BG3's amount of content

>>720059979
>i *actually* don't give a shit about my customers.
ask me how I know you're from california.

>>720059979
Video game development is a hobby to be done during nights and weekends. It is not a real job. If you can make some side money from it, great, but you shouldn't be looking to profit or make it big from making video games.

>>720056457 (OP)
>gamers at large too stupid to understand under pricing the game significantly is going to have negative impact on fellow indie developers
it's called economic terrorism for a reason